House Judiciary Committee Impeachment Report Ignores Expert Witnesses
Joel B. Pollak
Breitbart
7 Dec 2019
The House Judiciary Committees impeachment report Saturday on the constitutional and legal grounds for impeachment failed to cite any of the testimony from the expert witnesses who testified on Wednesday.
The report, signed by 20 members of the Democratic majority staff, appears to have been written in advance of that hearing. It was also prepared in advance of any evidentiary hearings in the committee, which are scheduled to begin Monday.
The report includes a caveat that its view are those of the staff, not the committees elected members.
One witness, University of North Carolina Law School professor Michael Gerhardt, is cited in the report, but the references are to his prior publications, not to his testimony in the hearing with two other Democratic witnesses.
Because it ignores the witnesses, notably the sole Republican-called witness, George Washington University professor Jonathan Turley (who is not, himself, a Republican), it fails to address the arguments they raised.
For example, the report argues that President Donald Trump can be impeached for obstruction of Congress for turning to the courts to prevent certain witnesses and documents from being provided to the House investigation.
As Turley argued on Wednesday:
I cant emphasize this enough, and Ill say it just one more time. If you impeach a president, if you make a high crime and misdemeanor out of going to the courts, it is an abuse of power. Its your abuse of power. Youre doing precisely what youre criticizing the president for doing. We have a third branch that deals with conflicts of the other two branches. And what comes out of there and what you do with it is the very definition of legitimacy.
The report fails to address that, and other objections.
As Breitbart News has noted, the report includes many legally, historically, and constitutionally dubious assertions, such as the claim that a president can be impeached for legally permissible conduct if his motives are illegitimate.
As precedent, the report cites the impeachment of President Andrew Johnson in 1868, which is widely viewed by historians and legal scholars as a mistake, and an abuse of the majoritys power in the House.
#1: A K A Stone To: nolu chan (#0)
Any democrat that votes for this should be tried for treason and executed.
Any Republican too for that matter. Or the douche bag Amash the fake palestinian.
A K A Stone posted on 2019-12-08 11:10:07 Reply Private Reply
#2: misterwhite To: nolu chan (#0)
Didn't the Democrats try that bullshit before with Trump's Muslim immigration ban? They claimed the ban was unconstitutional because Trump's "intent and motivation" was discriminatory.
misterwhite posted on 2019-12-08 11:34:17 Reply Private Reply
#3: Judas Goat To: A K A Stone (#1)
Supermax in Florence can hold ALL of them - R's and D's alike.
Judas Goat posted on 2019-12-08 11:49:40 Reply Private Reply
#4: Tooconservative To: nolu chan (#0)
Your previous posts were very impressive on these points.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-12-08 12:02:20 Reply Private Reply
#5: nolu chan To: misterwhite (#2)
Trump v Hawaii, 17-965 (9th Cir, 26 Jun 2018)
They crashed and burned at SCOTUS where it ran headlong into federal statute law, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f).
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182
Invoking the law of unintended consequences, it called attention to Operation Wetback implemented in 1954.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback
nolu chan posted on 2019-12-08 12:18:47 Reply Private Reply
#6: misterwhite To: nolu chan (#5)
True, but I'm saying prior to that the lower courts denied the ban because it was discriminatory (ie., Trump instituted the ban because he's a racist).
misterwhite posted on 2019-12-08 12:48:06 Reply Private Reply
#7: Judas Goat To: nolu chan (#5)
Operation Free the CHABADnik Organized Criminal Human Trafficker:
{ golf clap } for Golf Hat "conservatism"
Judas Goat posted on 2019-12-08 12:57:19 Reply Private Reply
#8: nolu chan To: Peromischievous leucopus, A K A Stone (#7)
And this is relevant to the thread topic... how??
nolu chan posted on 2019-12-08 14:45:08 Reply Private Reply
#9: Judas Goat To: nolu chan (#8)
"Commerce between master and slave is ________"?
Surely an academic suuuuper genius like you can fill in the blank.
Judas Goat posted on 2019-12-08 14:50:40 Reply Private Reply
#10: Hank Rearden To: nolu chan (#0)
Well, this seems to be shaping up as every bit the slapdash crock of barack I expected it to be.
Hank Rearden posted on 2019-12-08 18:40:05 Reply Private Reply
#11: nolu chan To: Peromischievous leucopus (#9)
Why bless your heart. I'll be glad to fill in for your blank stare.
From Rules of Evidence in an Impeachment Trial:
nolu chan posted on 2019-12-08 23:51:43 Reply Private Reply
#12: nolu chan To: Hank Rearden (#10)
His belt is threatening to become a sports bra for man boobs. A little higher and he might Epstein himself.
Sloppy Jerry gets tired. And all the excitement nearly put him in a coma.
In the Andrew Johnson trial there were eleven (11) Articles. On May 16, 1868 the Senate vote to acquit on one (1) article and adjourned to regroup. On May 26, they met and acquitted on two (2) more articles. That left eight (8) to go. They adjourned and never resumed.
It is from that stinking turd pile that the House now reaches in, pulls out a few turds, and wants to polish them up and present them as diamonds and pearls. The Johnson impeachment was a sick joke, and the radical nutjobs want to renew it and make it a tradition.
It is going to be quite a show, but a short show.
nolu chan posted on 2019-12-09 00:22:37 Reply Private Reply
#13: Hank Rearden To: nolu chan (#12)
Hank Rearden posted on 2019-12-10 14:43:38 Reply Private Reply
#14: Judas Goat To: nolu chan (#11)
"While a few independent media sources have mentioned over the years that Sam Kislina Ukraine-born and now New York-based"
Rudy G: Godfather of the Russian Mob?
December 17, 2007
web.archive.org/web/20190...r_of_the_Russian_Mob.html
Judas Goat posted on 2019-12-11 09:40:32 Reply Private Reply