This is an important reminder to be cautious of what you see online.

They sent this message to you, Deckard.

While many believed the post at face value, others that knew the family personally attempted to stop the misinformation from spreading.

Yep, ole gullible cop-hating Deckard went for it hook, line and sinker.

For instance, she said DCS had been involved with the family multiple times.

Oh, does that surprise you Deckard?

It doesn't me ...

However, the naturopath believed that Heder had meningitis and needed life-saving medical help. Fearful for the boy’s life, the naturopath called DCS to file a report.

There goes your "mention" bullshit out the window, Deckard.

The ND BELIEVED that Heder had meningitis.

BELIEVED, YOU ASSHOLE.

However, the naturopath believed that Heder had meningitis and needed life-saving medical help. Fearful for the boy’s life, the naturopath called DCS to file a report.

However, the naturopath believed that Heder had meningitis and needed life-saving medical help. Fearful for the boy’s life, the naturopath called DCS to file a report.

However, the naturopath believed that Heder had meningitis and needed life-saving medical help. Fearful for the boy’s life, the naturopath called DCS to file a report.

However, the naturopath believed that Heder had meningitis and needed life-saving medical help. Fearful for the boy’s life, the naturopath called DCS to file a report.

However, the naturopath believed that Heder had meningitis and needed life-saving medical help. Fearful for the boy’s life, the naturopath called DCS to file a report.

However, the naturopath believed that Heder had meningitis and needed life-saving medical help. Fearful for the boy’s life, the naturopath called DCS to file a report.

Did you GET that, Deckard?

Or do I need to repeat it a few more time for clarity?

I am so pleased that I continue to fact check.

And I am more grateful that nolu chan also does....and does a much better job that I.

Inside the home, the police say they found all three children sick and symptomatic.

I expected this to be the case all along.

Inside the home, the police say they found all three children sick and symptomatic.

I did not expect that.

Pathetic, Deckard....PATHETIC.

The police report indicated that the home had clutter all over the floor which made it difficult to walk. In one of the children’s bedroom, authorities found vomit all over the beds. The couple admitted the children had vomited several times and they had not cleaned up the mess.

Disgusting, Deckard....Absolutely DISGUtSTING.

Vomiting is ONE of the symptoms of Meningitis.

I stated on the other thread that the couple NEVER mentioned anything about other symptoms.

The naturopath’s concerns were not unfounded. Doctors admitted Heder into the hospital to treat his symptoms.

The naturopath’s concerns were not unfounded. Doctors admitted Heder into the hospital to treat his symptoms.

The naturopath’s concerns were not unfounded. Doctors admitted Heder into the hospital to treat his symptoms.

The naturopath’s concerns were not unfounded. Doctors admitted Heder into the hospital to treat his symptoms.

You reading this, Deckard.

Do you understand it?

Do you know what "not unfounded" means?

Good job DCS.

Good job officers.

Good night everyone.

Harvard Immunologist to Legislators: Unvaccinated Children Pose ZERO Risk to Anyone

Toby Downes Instead of anti-vaxxers I thought we were now calling them "pro-disease" or "plague enthusiasts"...?

www.iflscience.com/health...tivaxxers-are-the-latest- villains-in-an-extremely-popular-online-game/

Inside the home, the police say they found all three children sick and symptomatic.

I did not expect that.

Keeping sick kids at home is NOT A CRIME, you police-state loving socialist!

Vomiting is ONE of the symptoms of Meningitis.

It's also a symptom of the common flu and other childhood maladies.The fact remains - the child was in NO DANGER as the fever was already going down when the family left the hospital.

But by all means - keep patting yourself on the back for your truly pathetic attempts to marginalize this family and portray CPS and cops as heroes

Your numerous posts to me in particular smacks of impotent desperation.

If the kid had meningitis he should be at the doctor and any kid that isn't taken to the hospital is being abused.

The video on another thread of the cops raiding the place seemed excessive. But still the kid needed to be treated if that is in fact what he had.

Yep, Stone, there was DEFINITELY MORE to the story....as you suggested there woud be.

Oh my sides!

This is a completely different story than what I posted. You are posting this bullshit piece in order to deflect from your ass-whipping on the original thread.

So desperate...so sad.

Are you vaccinated?

I was as a child and then again while in the Air Force.

I haven't gotten a flu shot in decades and have had the flu maybe twice in that period.

Do you have children? Did you get them vaccinated? Or would you if you did?

Keeping sick kids at home is NOT A CRIME ...

Oh, but it DEFINITELY is in some cases. Check it out.

While it may not have been a crime here, it was stupid because:

The naturopath’s concerns were not unfounded. Doctors admitted Heder into the hospital to treat his symptoms.

I caught meningitis in Aug or Sept of 2016. I think that year is correct. I thought it was the flu for a few days. Then I felt like I was going to die or something and I went to the doctors finally. They found out what I had and treated it.

Seems we have at least something in common. It appears that neither one of us will go to a doctor until we are at deaths door.

I had a similar incident - tired, shortness of breath, persistent dry cough, thought it was just a cold until my GF at the time convinced me to see a doctor.

Turned out to be pnemonia. Took antibiotics for five days, stayed home from work.

This was six years ago.

I started having the same symptoms a month or so ago, so I knew it was serious so I went to the doctor right away.

I don't like taking sick days from work - I get sick pay but I'd rather be working than just lolling around.

Do you have children? Did you get them vaccinated?

My kids are grown up now - when we had them in '78 and'80, we had them vaccinated of course.

I didn't know then what I know now - if it was today, I would weigh all the options.

One thing that is different today I believe is that they give too many at the same time.

Doctors admitted Heder into the hospital to treat his symptoms

Apples and oranges.

I've never gotten a flu shot and never will.

Apparently you were never in the military - it's required.

The times I did get a flu shot back in the day, I ended up getting the flu anyways.

This is a completely different story than what I posted.

Ahem ...

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=58512

This is a completely different story than what I posted.

Ahem ...

Your story: Conspiracy Theory Goes Viral that CPS ‘Steals’ Children From Anti-Vax Parents

My story: Chandler police remove kids from home after sick child not taken to hospital

Please stop - your desperation is almost making me feel sorry for you.

My story: Chandler police remove kids from home after sick child not taken to hospital
The mother and child in your story: Sarah Beck and Heber.

The ND BELIEVED that Heder had meningitis.

Based on what, exactly? The snitch who is a quack naturopath, someone who aided and abetted these anti-vaxxers until they turned snitch?

What you're doing is highlighting that even the opinion of a non-medical quack can be used by CPS/PD to be remove children from their parents.

What you're doing is highlighting that even the opinion of a non-medical quack can be used by CPS/PD

Not only will CPS use information from that type of source, but they act upon ANONYMOUS sources on the 1-800 child abuse hot-line, millions of times a year. Most are bullshit, but if 3% are accurate... thousands of calls help the helpless, children.

Huge lawsuits, too. I remember a case where CPS failed to act upon several anonymous tips that a child was not being cared for properly by her drug using mommy (Dicktard loves them), and the huge local story broke news when she was discovered almost dead, a human skeleton.

It was actually a case where CPS just didn’t follow up and make sure the child was being fed... until the cops found the child that way during a drug raid of the house, months after the first 1-800 tip.

I don't consider any naturopath qualified to provide a legit diagnosis of meningitis. Kids and adults can have fever and vomiting without having meningitis.

Let's review some symptoms from Wiki:

For the sick child, there was no mention of a stiff neck, no mention of headache, no mention of rashes. And even if those were present, they match up with a lot of other illness, both chronic and infectious. A child might exhibit irritability or drowsiness or poor feeding for many other illnesses or for no real reason at all.

This situation would be like your chiropractor calling adult services on you for coughing and fever and having the public health agency and courts and police confine you to a nursing home on that basis, despite your wife's strident objections and status as your legal medical guardian.

Why did the cops remove the other two children from the home for no cause other than all three kids had had the flu? Why won't they tell the parents where the children are or even what their condition is? Why won't they reveal whether any of these children had meningitis at all? Surely they would if there had been any basis for the entire fiasco to begin with. And if the parents are so awful and the home so neglectful, then why haven't they been charged with a crime of any sort?

Huge lawsuits, too. I remember a case where CPS failed to act upon several anonymous tips that a child was not being cared for properly by her drug using mommy (Dicktard loves them), and the huge local story broke news when she was discovered almost dead, a human skeleton.

Sad story but that in no way justifies the actions of the Chandler police, the quack naturopath snitch, and the CPS. They should all get their asses sued off and spend some time in prison for kidnapping under abuse of authority.

Let's see some evidence, any evidence, that they were justified in removing the sick child, let alone the two other siblings who were kidnapped as well for no justifiable cause.

And foster care is by no means safe. Thousands of children end up in sex trafficking after being in foster care every year. These children are in danger in CPS custody. It is not as safe as being in the custody of their parents.

Just because we don't like anti-vaxxers (and I don't) doesn't give us the right to disrupt their homes, kidnap their children and hold them incommunicado, even to the point of withholding information about their health status, the supposed justification for their removal from their parents.

Let's see some evidence, any evidence, that they were justified in removing the sick child

I’m not passing opinion on this particular incident/article. Too many factors (the unknown, unreported or just commonly spun or slanted to suit political AGENDAS).

I just make comment that it doesn’t take some level of credentials, approved by LIBERALterians, for any states child protective agency to act on. They will act on a tip from anyone... and then hopefully build probable cause if they continue through with more intrusive action.

I’m not passing opinion on this particular incident/article.

The facts speak for themselves. CPS has released no medical info to justify the removal of the child, let alone his two older siblings who were not suspected of having meningitis at all. CPS has resorted to saying the home was messy just because there was a load of laundry scattered on the living room chairs and, oh shit, a (non-functioning) shotgun was in the bedroom and wasn't locked up. Having three kids that had the flu, a somewhat messy house (gee, 3 sick kids around the house, how did anything get messy?) and a non-functional shotgun are not a legit basis for removal of a sick child, let alone both older siblings who had no diagnosis of severe illness like meningitis.

You have to admit it sounds incredibly lame, given the facts we already have. It sounds like a show-us-your-titties episode of CPS Gone Wild.

This is one of those instances where the followup is crucial. So far, we don't know all the facts, only some allegations and vague mentions of a messy house and a non-functional shotgun. And the official silence about the children's medical condition is pretty deafening.

I just make comment that it doesn’t take some level of credentials, approved by LIBERALterians, for any states child protective agency to act on. They will act on a tip from anyone... and then hopefully build probable cause if they continue through with more intrusive action.

That is among the most appalling things you've ever written here at LF.

Maybe you should see some photos of the children, parents, home and some remarks from the parents.

Just because we don't like anti-vaxxers …

… (and I don't) …

… doesn't give us the right to disrupt their homes …

Hea, hold on Hoss.

Wait just a damend minute!

The ER doctor who was not “quack naturopath” decided the kid, Heder, was sick enough that she/he admitted Heder to the hospital to treat his symptoms. I forget what he was diagnosed as having, and I won’t bother to look it up, but it was some type of infection.

So, it was stated by someone that the “naturopath’s concerns were not unfounded.” But “WE” will never admit that some “quack naturopath” concerns were not unfounded….will “WE?” Or that “the opinion of a non-medical quack” was used by “CPS/PD to remove a child from his parents” and admit him to the hospital where his infection was properly treated.

… kidnap …

Don’t you DARE for one minute to try to use that word to try and harangue me with. You may have no respect for the law as I find most libertarians don’t. But I do. It was reported that DCS had an order for “temporary custody from a judge.” “My dear libertarian friend (stated with tongue in cheek) the children were not KIDNAPPED. Stop trying to BULLSHIT me.

Continuing on …

… kidnap their children and hold them incommunicado, even to the point of withholding information about their health status, the supposed justification for their removal from their parents.

And please….please….don’t pull a Deckard and show a link to some yellow journalism article where “someone SAID something.” I don’t pay any attention to opinions or to hearsay information I receive from other people when I receive information they cannot adequately substantiate.

I courteously await your reply with proven facts when you have those.

But until you have proven facts, then I respectfully request that you not bother me.

For time is a valuable asset and I don’t want to waste any on a libertarian whiner.

That is among the most appalling things you've ever written here at LF.

People don’t have a constitutional right to break the law. The constitution WASN’T crafted to conseal criminal activity. Upon having reason to believe that a crime is afoot... and building further probable cause as you investigate, certainty justifies follow through of more intrusive investigative procedures, like search warrants and custodial arrests.

While that might be appalling to a Paultard, it’s fucking fact here in this constitutional republic. If you don’t like that, you are certainly allowed to go live with BuckerGoo, in the jungles of Belize.

The facts speak for themselves. Blah….blah….blah…

Ah! Spoken like a true asshole Paultard libertarian who obediently follows the warped libertarian philosophy that people “should be free to do as he or she pleases so long as he or she does not harm others.”

And that’s where Paultards drop the ball. They aren’t fucking smart enough to see past the length of a marijuana joint, how some actions they deem harmless to others, actually harm others.

That is why when a small idiot child should ingest a handful of scrabble squares... and then painfully pass them into their training pants, that idiot child just produced a few sentences more intelligently than an adult Paultard.

To a Paultard, nothing they do victimizes another... everything is a victimless, non violent crime. lol

And that’s where Paultards drop the ball. They aren’t fucking smart enough to see past the length of a marijuana joint, how some actions they deem harmless to others, actually harm others.

That is why when a small idiot child should ingest a handful of scrabble squares... and then painfully pass them into their training pants, that idiot child just produced a few sentences more intelligently than an adult Paultard.

To a Paultard, nothing they do victimizes another... everything is a victimless, non violent crime. lol

Shout it to the ceiling ...

That is among the most appalling things you've ever written here at LF.

Please….Please….Please.

Oh, please, GrandIsland.

Teach me how to be appalling – to cause shock or dismay and be horrific – to a libertarian in one sentence.

I keep trying ….

The facts speak for themselves. CPS has released no medical info to justify the removal of the child, let alone his two older siblings who were not suspected of having meningitis at all. CPS has resorted to saying the home was messy just because there was a load of laundry scattered on the living room chairs and, oh shit, a (non-functioning) shotgun was in the bedroom and wasn't locked up. Having three kids that had the flu....

For my extended take of this, see the other thread.

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=58512&Disp=49#C49

Just a brief snapshot about meningitis and the flu.

Officers went to the family's home to check the child's welfare, but no one answered the door, even though police could hear "someone coughing inside one of the bedrooms," according to the police report.

So, they concluded coughing means meningitis?

https://www.healthline.com/health/meningitis

Coughing does not appear to be a symptom of bacterial or other meningitis.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/flu/symptoms-causes/syc-20351719

Dry, persistent cough; nasal congestion; and sore throat are symptoms of the flu, a viral infection.

Did the requesting authority inform the judge that the doctor was an N.D. who was medically incompetent to diagnose meningitis or to distinguish between a bacterial or viral infection? The N.D. was less qualified than a veterinarian for that purpose. The authorities had neither a diagnosis nor a competent medical opinion at the time of requesting the authorization to force entry.

Ah! Spoken like a true asshole Paultard libertarian who obediently follows the warped libertarian philosophy that people “should be free to do as he or she pleases so long as he or she does not harm others.”

You're damned by your own mouth.

Repent.

For time is a valuable asset and I don’t want to waste any on a libertarian whiner.

You can hardly type fast enough to keep up with the "libertarian whiners". Post after post, day after day. Because, like, your time is so valuable.

Right.

You sound like some old whore saying, "You know, I really don't like cocks all that much."

People don’t have a constitutional right to break the law. The constitution WASN’T crafted to conseal criminal activity.

You are peddling a self-serving liberty-hating view of the Constitution.

Properly formulated, it is the state which has no constitutional right to remove these children from their parents, given the facts as described in this article and in other local reporting from news outlets in Arizona.

Did the requesting authority inform the judge that the doctor was an N.D. who was medically incompetent to diagnose meningitis or to distinguish between a bacterial or viral infection? The N.D. was less qualified than a veterinarian for that purpose. The authorities had neither a diagnosis nor a competent medical opinion at the time of requesting the authorization to force entry.

This is a case where CPS and the local cops just went crazy, it seems.

I wonder if these parents really were targeted for being anti-vaxxers or something. Or is the Arizona CPS just this awful?

And what of the judge who foolishly consented to this scandalous kidnapping of children from their parents under false pretenses and with so little evidence of any harm being done? That judge deserves a lot more scrutiny, in this case as well as her entire caseload.

You sound like some old whore saying, "You know, I really don't like cocks all that much."

And you sound like a libertarian saying, You know, I really like cocks shoved up my ass so give me some more.”

I am not sure which of those comments is more stupid and childish.

Maybe we can get a forum vote.

In the meantime, you need to grow the fuck up and try to mature just a bit.

Oh, I am still waiting for those facts…lol.

For some reason, namely that I am dealing with a libertarian….I never expect to see them.

You can hardly type fast enough to keep up with the "libertarian whiners". Post after post, day after day. Because, like, your time is so valuable.

Right.

Kicking the shit out of libertarians is proper use of valuable time.

At least it is to me.

And after all, it’s my valuable time and I can use it any way I desire.

given the facts as described in this article

lol... and that’s your problem. When you work with shit... your conclusions and opinions are shit.

Like I stated above from the start. I didn’t read the article, I don’t give two fucks about the article... and I pass no opinion towards vaccines or laws requiring them.

Whether this article was written or not, or if this incident didn’t happen or it did, CPS will take referrals from ANYONE, and they are obligated to follow those allegations up. Even if that causes you to shat your Ron Paul boxer shorts.

You're damned by your own mouth.

Repent.

May I have a second option?

Like either become a libertarian or pull a Hermann Wilhelm Göring?

Any facts yet?

You sound like some old whore saying, "You know, I really don't like cocks all that much."

Tater is still logged onto yukon's wrong link... lovethecocks.com

Repent and become a libertarian?

Geeez, this site does not need another one of those... unless you’re gonna be a civil and tolerant Paultard and take the position that you’re here to tell others your opinion and not expect other posters to be indoctrinated by you...(IOW’s, youDON’T have an AGENDA).

That’s what makes a paultard an asshole, btw.

The moral of this post... be yourself. Even a libertarian... but don’t ever be an asshole (code for Paultard).

lovethecocks.com

Only you would remember the name of the site.

Makes you suspicious.

Oh, well.

No doubt the best choice anyway.

Only you would remember the name of the site.

It sounded...off...to me. So I checked it via search engine.

It appears that it is lovethecock.com (singular).

Fortunately, none of us appear to have remembered it accurately.

Any facts yet?

Are you addressing me? I thought you announced you were too busy to post to me about 5-6 posts ago.

Are you addressing me?

I found the first definition was:

1. write the name and address of the intended recipient on (an envelope, letter, or package).

Then I found the second definition was:

2. speak to (a person or an assembly), typically in a formal way.

I looked and there were no further definitions.

After carefully considering all of that, I will answer your question.

No.

I am not “addressing” you.

What I am doing is responding to the post you made to me.

And in my response to the post you made to me, I asked you:

Any facts yet?

Any facts yet?

I thought you announced you were too busy to post to me about 5-6 posts ago.

Yes, I did definitely announce that I was too busy to post to you.

But never did I announce that I was too busy to read the facts you post TO me.

Did I?

I will answer my own question, thank you.

No, I did not.

So, I will ask again:

Any facts yet for me to read?

Fortunately, none of us appear to have remembered it accurately

That makes me feel a little better.

That makes me feel a little better.

Because you followed the link, gayblade!

I will answer my own question, thank you.

No, I did not.

I hope you two will be very happy together.

Does anyone know what happened to yukon? His revelation about the wrong link, quickly lead to the demise of LP.

Funny you should ask. A lot of people, including GoldiLox, thought you were using HideMyAss VPN to masquerade under yukon's handle and then posted that very same infamous link under his handle over at LP.

I'm sure you recall the accusations against you.

I will answer my own question, thank you.

No, I did not.

I hope you two will be very happy together.

Thank you for you best wishes.

And I can assure more happy that we would ever be together with some asshole Paultard libertarian.

Funny you should ask. A lot of people, including GoldiLox, thought you were using HideMyAss VPN to masquerade under yukon's handle and then posted that very same infamous link under his handle over at LP.

I’m glad you brought that up. That’s my guess as to what happened. BuckerGoo is the most disruptive poster I’ve ever seen, on any forum.

I don't need to use "HideMyAss" for anything. Salley knew that same perspective just as AKA Stone knows it.

Of course, we note that you still do not offer any vehement denial.

Funny you should ask. A lot of people, including GoldiLox, thought you were using HideMyAss VPN to masquerade under yukon's handle and then posted that very same infamous link under his handle over at LP.

Yep, a lot of people did think that buckeroo posted that infamous link under [yukon's] handle at LP.

Some, at least one person I know of, still firmly holds that belief today.

Edit: Make that two people. I just read another post.

I’m glad you brought that up. That’s my guess as to what happened. BuckerGoo is the most disruptive poster I’ve ever seen, on any forum.

I think it's about 50-50. Either yukon was gay and posted a lurid link and left out of embarrassment or buckeroo did hack his account and posted a naughty link as part of an article(!). I guess I think it's actually 60%-70% likely it was just yukon flying his true colors by accident. Otherwise, why did he flee, apparently in shame? You wouldn't do that if you got hacked and someone posted an article with a lurid link as an "accident", would you? I don't think you would. You'd keep going on the forum, guns blazing, insisting that you wuz hacked. But yukon didn't. And we know he did otherwise have a very thick hide and endless appetite for online baiting/posting. Instead, he disappeared like some Rumpelstiltskin.

Does anyone know what happened to yukon?

Sex offender who won Alaska lottery beaten with iron pipe

Of course, we note that you still do not offer any vehement denial.

Oh "WE" do?

One more time, I do not subscribe to third party capabilities.

OMG….I just realized I am posting to you.

Oh well, I did find a little spare time.

Of course, we note that you still do not offer any vehement denial.

Oh "WE" do?

Tooconservative + Gatlin = "WE"

So TC is numerically correct.

Not many times have I ever found him wrong.

Cantankerous sometimes, maybe.

But wrong ????

Yep, a lot of people did think that buckeroo posted that infamous link under [yukon's] handle at LP.

A few posters over at 4um seemed to suspect bucky as well, having reviewed the IP address history that Goldi provided. You recall my posts at LP about this at the time.

Damn...I wonder if I've still got a bookmark for it?

Why, yes, I do.

LP: LP FUNDRAISER

You can find Goldi, yukon, Gatlin, me nad others there. You can see where I posted via the public HideMyAss VPN server and then Goldi checked her IP logs to see that I was posting from the same IP address range as the original yukon gay-porn post was made (post #979).

Glancing at a few other old LP threads, I realized that LP was just never the same once yukon was no longer there 24/7, calling some poor soul a "dishonorable asshole" a half-dozen times on every thread. LOL

harrowup firmly believed that liberator was a coconspirator

(((( PING ))))

The cowardly fag tater didn't have the guts to ping you.

I am convinced that your meaningless post was archaic at best.

Damn, I am surprise.

I am astonished.

I am truly amazed,

And you have impressed me greatly.

Why and how?

You knew the word “archaic” and you knew how to property construct a sentence using the word.

I have strong hopes you will continue to work on your vocabulary.

Best post evah on LP.

... having reviewed the IP address history that Goldi provided.

Ah yes, I forgot about that.

I chatted with Yukon on back channel all the time.

I was getting the story from him from the first moment of the incident and even when he could not sign in until Goldi and Stone gave him a new password since his old one had been changed.

I of course never believe it was him and strongly suspected it was Bucky all the time that had compromised his password.

Goldi said, as you may well remember that she guessed Yukon’s password on LP.

You may also remember that I said I guessed yukon’s password on LF on the first try.

likely it was just yukon flying his true colors by accident.

I’m not buying it. He was an Alaskan dude, talked about 4x4’s, guns, conservative values and so on. We had one self proclaimed fag posting, that was Meguro. If you remember, Meguro was a flaming LIBERAL. IMHO, most filthy fags are liberal minded.

I guarantee if Yukon was posting today, he’d be supporting Trump. No faggot on this planet likes Trump. Think about it. Yukon was hated like a devil by the cop hating drug loving paultard cult. They NEVER allowed another ideology without pushback. It’s how they indoctrinate.

Yukon abused them at every turn. The only way they could keep LP an indoctrinated anti government sounding board, was to remove or discredit Yukon.

Otherwise, why did he flee

Didn’t Goldi finally ban him?

Didn’t Goldi finally ban him?

That paranoid bitch banned me, for no other reason than Obama won a second term. Out of the blue, the C U Next Thursday banned me about 15 minutes after his second term was announced.

She didn’t like cops... I’m sure the cops didn’t care for her smell, after finding her melted into her hardwood floor.

I’m not buying it. He was an Alaskan dude, talked about 4x4’s, guns, conservative values and so on.

Yes,

And he lived out in the wilderness far from town and used a phone line to connect to the Internet.

She didn’t like cops...

That's true.

But wrong ????

He knows we want to hear a denial. So he refuses to give it.

I'm still not sure he has technical skills adequate to break into yucko's account. Not impossible. But a dictionary attack would likely have done the trick. Most people reuse the same common passwords over and over. Left to their own devices, most people will use 'password' or '1234' as their password. It's pathetic.

I'm still not sure he has technical skills adequate to break into yucko's account.

Woah, no one broke into his account.

Goldi figured out someone guessed his password.

Her posts sill on fill will show that she immediately guessed his password.

I forget what it was.

But I remember I guessed his password on LF and he confirmed it. It was the first word of his screen name.

Goldi figured out someone guessed his password.

I quizzed yukon directly and he kept denying using a common or easy-to-guess password.

She didn’t like cops.

A good perspective.

Goldi figured out someone guessed his password.

I quizzed yukon directly and he kept denying using a common or easy-to-guess password.

I don’t know why he said that.

Goldi’s post is still out there somewhere.

And my post is still here on LF somewhere.

Where we both said we guessed his password.

... perspective ...

OMG ...

You know a second big word.

I am amazed.

I don’t remember if it was made public but he was a 24/7 caregiver and everyone wondered why he was on the forum so much and so many odd hours. It was because he had to take care of his wife even at odd times and would post while he was up.

His wife passed away during that fiasco he was going through. That made it doubly bad for him.

He, harrowup and I exchanged emails for a long time after he was no longer on LP. He never expressed anger, just disappointment that someone would do such a thing to him.

I was also made aware of harrowup recurring cancer. I really didn’t know the details except he had an arm amputated and he had to give up flying his own airplane from WI to the Texas panhandle to visit friends and relatives.

I could go on but I will stop here.

I just got started down memory lane and kept keying in words.

Later ...

He had an ibluafartsky account here too. He didn't use it to say he was hacked. He got real quiet on it.

He had an ibluafartsky account here too.

Even that forum handle is full of his typical contempt.

You really have to wonder about how people manage to be such deliberately toxic a-holes on the internet. Like they're total wimps in real life or have tragically small genitalia or some dire birth defect or some deep-set emotional syndrome or toxic personality disorder. yukon's constant aggression pattern always made me think he had a chronic personality disorder of some kind.

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19110&Disp=26#C26

Holy crap. That thread has a lot of page views.

Views: 134493

Anyway, it sounds like a lot for a 150+ comment thread.

Even though I never posted on it, somehow I was directly quoted ((#92, SkipIntro to buckeroo), obviously talking about yukon. I had had no idea until today that I was so famous!

I assume I must have posted it over at LP and it was noticed here.

Too funny.

was directly quoted ((#92, SkipIntro to buckeroo)

Skippy was banned here, probably for quoting you?

Yukon was probably the biggest asshole I ever met on the internet.

He had an ibluafartsky account here too. He didn't use it to say he was hacked. He got real quiet on it.

He also had Dirty Harold and 1 or 2 more IIRC. Or am I thinking of Mad Dog?

Skippy was banned here, probably for quoting you?

I've no idea why he was banned. I barely recall him though I don't doubt that I posted to him a few times, as I do try to make a welcome post to new posters. I was just surprised to be quoted like that. And the phrasing is familiar; it does sound typical, like something I'd write.

FYI:

Maybe you have a suspicion that a child is being abused based on something you’ve witnessed, or a child has told you that abuse is happening. Either way, it’s your responsibility to report it to the authorities.

obvious now

backsTabbing hiT

wow

dead giveaway now

puke

vomiT

barf

snuff

he used The same password here

anyone wiTh any brains

could figure ThaT ouT

I changed my lp password

right away

disgusting

liars are liars

creeps are creeps

no conscience

no morals

The finger was always poinTing here

[Tooconservative #36] I don't consider any naturopath qualified to provide a legit diagnosis of meningitis. Kids and adults can have fever and vomiting without having meningitis.

This naturopathic physician (NP), not MD, was not trained to distinguish between bacterial or viral infection, and failed to diagnose RSV, a virus which according to the Mayo Clinic, is "so common that most children have been infected with the virus by age 2."

https://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/family/item/32369-months-after-police-raid-az-parents-granted-custody-of-their-children

Thursday, 16 May 2019

Months After Police Raid, Arizona Parents Granted Custody of Their Children

Written by Raven Clabough

[Excerpt]

The Arizona DCS Oversight Group, a local advocacy group for parental rights, and State Representative Kelly Townsend (R-Mesa) spoke out in favor of the parents.

Townsend, who helped to draft legislation that requires DCS to obtain a warrant before removing children from their homes, said that DCS and the police distorted the purpose of that legislation, which was to minimize the number of children being removed by DCS and to restore due process and protections against illegal search and seizure.

“It was not the intent [of the law] that the level of force after obtaining a warrant was to bring in a SWAT team,” Townsend said. “The imagery is horrifying. What has our country become that we can tear down the doorway of a family who has a child with a high fever that disagrees with their doctor?”

The story became even more convoluted, as it appeared that DCS was making it harder for Bryce and Beck to get their children back because the parents were oppositional to DCS and communicated with media. Furthermore, the children, when originally removed from their home, were placed in separate foster-care homes, something that is atypical of this type of situation. The parents believe that DCS was purposefully making it difficult for their family.

Some also raised concerns that the parents were targeted because their children were unvaccinated.

“It was brought to my attention that these parents may have been targeted by the medical community because they hadn’t vaccinated their children,” Representative Townsend said. “I think if DCS decides to use this as a factor they would be violating a parent’s right to have a personal exemption, a religious exemption and perhaps a medical exemption,” she said.

The doctor claimed that because the toddler was unvaccinated, she was concerned that the child has meningitis, but her assertion had little credibility. According to the CDC’s vaccination schedule, the recommended age for vaccination against meningitis is 11-12 years. A two-year-old generally would not have received that vaccine even if he had pro-vax parents, unless he was in a special situation, such as having an immune deficiency or was traveling to a country where meningitis is prevalent.

Fortunately, Heber did not have meningitis, but had RSV, a common respiratory virus among young children that generally requires rest, fluids, and nasal aspirations at home.

About two months after the children were taken into temporary state custody, they were returned home under the condition that Bryce’s parents acted as “safety monitors” for the children. But on Tuesday, Maricopa County Juvenile Court Judge Timothy Ryan granted the parents custody over the children, meaning Bryce’s parents no longer have to serve as monitors, but the state is still currently retaining decision-making authority.

Amanda Steele, a spokesman for the Maricopa County Attorney’s office, said that they will not be bringing charges against the parents because they are not likely to achieve any convictions.

The police continue to defend their actions, claiming that officers were acting under an order to protect children from abuse and neglect, but critics contend that the raid was “more fitting for drug dealers,” Associated Press reports.

Bryce and Beck are continuing to seek full custody and decision-making authority over their children.

“We didn’t do anything wrong,” Bryce said.

Police recommended prosecution. The Maricopa County Attorney's office declined because they were unlikely to obtain any conviction. Perhaps they could try investigating and prosecuting the member of the CPS who provided information to obtain a warrant.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/respiratory-syncytial-virus/symptoms-causes/syc-20353098

MAYO CLINIC

Respiratory syncytial virus (RSV)

Overview

Respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) causes infections of the lungs and respiratory tract. It's so common that most children have been infected with the virus by age 2. Respiratory syncytial (sin-SISH-ul) virus can also infect adults.

In adults and older, healthy children, RSV symptoms are mild and typically mimic the common cold. Self-care measures are usually all that's needed to relieve any discomfort.

[...]

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/respiratory-syncytial-virus/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20353104

MAYO CLINIC

Respiratory syncytial virus (RSV)

Diagnosis and Treatment

Diagnosis

Your doctor may suspect respiratory syncytial virus based on the findings of a physical exam and the time of year the symptoms occur. During the exam, the doctor will listen to the lungs with a stethoscope to check for wheezing or other abnormal sounds.

Laboratory and imaging tests aren't usually needed. However, they can help diagnose RSV complications or rule out other conditions that may cause similar symptoms. Tests may include:

• Blood tests to check white cell counts or to look for viruses, bacteria and other germs
• Chest X-rays to check for lung inflammation
• Swab of secretions from inside the mouth or nose to check for signs of the virus
• Sometimes, painless skin monitoring (pulse oximetry) to detect lower than normal levels of oxygen in the blood

Treatment

Treatment for respiratory syncytial virus generally involves self-care measures to make your child more comfortable (supportive care). But hospital care may be needed if severe symptoms occur.

Supportive care

Your doctor may recommend an over-the-counter medication such as acetaminophen (Tylenol, others) to reduce fever. Frequent use of nasal saline drops and suctioning can help clear a stuffy nose. Your doctor may prescribe antibiotics if there's a bacterial complication, such as bacterial pneumonia.

Keep your child as comfortable as possible. Offer plenty of fluids and watch for signs of dehydration, such as dry mouth, little to no urine output, sunken eyes, and extreme fussiness or sleepiness. Hospital care

If the RSV infection is severe, a hospital stay may be necessary. Treatments at the hospital may include:

• Intravenous (IV) fluids
• Humidified oxygen
• Mechanical ventilation (breathing machine)

The doctor may recommend an inhaled form of an antiviral medicine called ribavirin (Virazole) for people with very weakened immune systems (immunocompromised).

An inhaler (bronchodilator) or steroids are not proved to be helpful in treating RSV infection.

From Associated Press as published by U.S. News & World Report.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/arizona/articles/2019-05-15/parents-who-refused-to-bring-son-to-hospital-win-custody

Parents Who Refused to Bring Son to Hospital Win Custody

An Arizona couple whose three children were taken into state custody after they refused a doctor's advice to bring their sick 2-year-old boy to hospital have won custody that lets them care for and supervise their children.

By Associated Press, Wire Service Content May 15, 2019, at 7:18 p.m.

U.S. News & World Report

Parents Who Refused to Bring Son to Hospital Win Custody

By JACQUES BILLEAUD, Associated Press

It sounded...off...to me. So I checked it via search engine.

It appears that it is lovethecock.com (singular).

Fortunately, none of us appear to have remembered it accurately.

Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-03 14:51:21 ET

Original source thread from Liberty Post:

http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=305216 [Dead link - article/comments deleted by Liberty Post, archived by nolu chan]

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Title: New favorite website
Source:
Gun broker
URL Source: http://www.lovethecock.com/
Published: Mar 27, 2011
Author: yukon
Post Date: 2011-03-27 01:39:54 by yukon
Views: 599
Comments: 51

For shooting and killing. Addicting and no libturds!

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#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0)

I used the wrong link.

yukon posted on 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET Reply Trace

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#2. To: yukon (#1)

I used the wrong link.

YOU FAGGOT!

This calls for banishment!

Argus posted on 2011-03-27 1:45:44 ET Reply Trace

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#3. To: Argus (#2)

This calls for banishment!

For having too many browsers open, kook?

yukon posted on 2011-03-27 2:06:27 ET Reply Trace

[Toooconservative #100]

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19110&Disp=26#C26

Holy crap. That thread has a lot of page views.

Views: 134493

Here's one with over a half-million views:

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19712

Title: Lord of the Flies
Source: LibertyPost.org
URL Source: http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=306467&Disp=3#C6
Published: Apr 19, 2011
Author: Gatlin,yukon,harrowup and last but not l
Post Date: 2011-04-19 17:21:12 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 534063
Comments: 630

[buckeroo #65] Does anyone know what happened to yukon? His revelation about the wrong link, quickly lead to the demise of LP.

At LP, Goldi got sick of him and told him he was "Puked on permanently," and closed his account.

https://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=328665&Disp=1#C1

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0)

The ONLY person to say things, reveal the truth, and not be politically correct.

RAW UNADULTERATED TRUTH.

Yet you restrict and censor me for doing the same.

yukon posted on 2012-12-01 16:31:58 ET [Locked] Trace

https://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=328665&Disp=28#C28

#28. To: yukon (#1)

you restrict and censor me for doing the same.

Clearly you didn't read the terms of your probation.

You are to CEASE the attacks.

Cease the Filth.

And converse in a polite manner.

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On two seperate occastions, I was on a thread, where everyone was acting like adults having a good discussion, and BAM! there you were, unannounced, unmolested by anyone at all on that thread...

and you proceded to badmouth folks on the thread using very vulgar language.

I'm not tolerating that. I never tolerate unmitigated vile filth.

Clean up your act, or begone.

This is my final conversation with you on this issue.

I will not respond to you, or any further whining.

Goldi-Lox posted on 2012-12-02 19:07:50 ET [Locked] Trace

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#29. To: All (#28) (Edited)

Goldi-Lox posted on 2012-12-02 19:19:38 ET [Locked] Trace

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#30. To: Yukon, Last Post (#29)

In spite of back to back probations for attacking others, calling them names, and spewing filth...

you've done it again - all over this thread - that is IMPORTANT to me.

I'm so TIRED of you, I could just PUKE.

So YUKON, you are Puked-on permanently.

I just can't take it any more.

So sorry, so sorry...but you brought this on yourself.

good bye

gave a good life.

your account is now closed on LP.

Goldi-Lox posted on 2012-12-02 19:20:34 ET [Locked] Trace

you fall for iT

dumber Than dumb

paTheTic

an obvious hack

you fall for iT

dumber Than dumb

paTheTic

Thank you for your thorough and documented research into this matter.

The computer illiterates who attempted to push the hack story in 2011 were reduced to a laughingstock. They demonstrated they did not know an ISP from an IPA, did not recognize an impossible IPA when it stared them in the face, but their hunt for the impossible IPA was fun to watch. Their boasts of being able to hack the passwords and not leave a trace were incinerated by the Neil/Pinguinite challenge to strut their stuff. They quickly changed their story yet again to claim that Goldi guessed a password fie yukon at LP and Gatlin guessed a password for Ibluafartsky at LF, and the evildoer must have done the same. While they claimed that the guess story was back up by PM between Gatlin and Yukon. However, when A K A Stone pressed on about this alleged PM, in Stone's words, Yukon clammed up [#329]. The story culminates with all the PM having been immediately destroyed.

Of course there was no way to verify the alleged Goldi/Gatlin password guesses, even if the PM had not been destroyed. No logon with the alleged guesses could be performed as the alleged dastardly hacker had already allegedly changed both passwords. Saying I guess the password for Iblufartsky was fartsky, and yukon declaring that to be correct is bullshit, not verification.

An early failed attempt was the use of a password cracker.

https://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=305524&Disp=196#C196

#196. To: Goldi-Lox (#193)

See!

I reged as WhiteSands , no space for a reason.

Apparently Anonymous has teamed with Ron Paul to swarm this site.

They don't have to hack to throw a password cracker at a log in.

WhiteSands posted on 2011-04-01 12:24:48 ET [Locked]

While it does not identify a hacker, computer generated logons by a password cracker occur at warp speed compared to keyboard entry. A batch of logon attempts performed faster than human ability may be identified by time stamps. Fail. No evidence of such a computer attack was found.

https://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=305524&Disp=198#C198

#198. To: Goldi-Lox (#193)

For those who are UNAWARE...some specific names on LP got hacked.

Another person WhiteSands, had a doppleganger, White Sands...(with a space).

So, LP can easily be hacked? A person can come here and access the passwords of others to pose as them at whim? That doesn't provide much comfort for security. I was under the impression that you had safe guards in place to ensure that poster accounts were secure.

Two different screen names, isn't hacking.

stretchedmind posted on 2011-04-01 12:26:51 ET [Locked]

There is that minor problem that admitting the hacker story admits a rather large, but unidentified, security hole. Neil/Pinguinite more than adequately addressed that.

Someone creating a new account with a handle very similar to that of an existing account is not hacking.

https://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=305524&Disp=199#C199

#199. To: stretchedmind (#198)

I believe one person had some people working constantly to guess his password.

They finally guessed it, and then signed in as him. This is something that no one, and no security systtem can protect against...so everyone should be sure that the password they use is something that can't be guessed by a stranger.

Goldi-Lox posted on 2011-04-01 12:30:46 ET [Locked]

In this early version, people plural were working constantly to guess yukon's password(s), and are assumed to have finally guessed it (or them in later versions), in minutes or on the first guess.

#484. To: A K A Stone (#482)

I will go back and answer the questions if you want me to ... no problem.

BTW ... during the excitement, I think I said that someone over at LP guessed yukon's password in a few minutes.

I forgot to tell you that I guessed Ibluafartsky's password at LF on the first guess. I have the email confirming that ... of course the doubters will say that email is a fake, but IDGAS what the doubters say.

Gatlin posted on 2011-04-18 1:08:06 ET

That was reassuring.

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19712&Disp=All&#C491

#491. To: A K A Stone, war, ALL (#485)

Stone, yukon said the best he remembers is that the exchange where I guessed his password on the first try was in a PM on LF. Yukon and I shared information by both email and by PM.

[...]

Stone, I don’t trust you not to read the PMs on file at LF … I believe that you do. I don’t think you are an honorable person and I believe you to be devious. Therefore, all PMs in both yukon’s file and my file were deleted immediately after reading to preclude you snooping into the files and reading them. That is why the PM where I guessed the password no longer exists. I remember the exchange and yukon remembers the exchange … and I don’t give a rat’s shit whether you believe me or not.

[...]

OriginalGatlin posted on 2011-04-23 11:36:58 ET [Locked]

Well, that didn't last long.

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https://www.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19591&Disp=All&

Title: A question of a hack or not turns into....Lies, Insults,Gossip, Deceit, Hate, Innuendo,?TRUTH? Spreads Across the Internet
Source: [None]
URL Source: [None]
Published: Apr 14, 2011
Author: Yukon
Post Date: 2011-04-14 14:58:01 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 785930
Comments: 877

A thread with over three-quarters of a million views.

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https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=33469&Disp=10#C10

#10. To: Abcdefg (#2)

He was Ibluafartsky also verman whatever after his coming out.

A K A Stone posted on 2012-11-26 20:08:21 ET

Supposedly, the related initial contacts between Gatlin and Ibluafartsky/Yukon were on LF via PM.

Also, supposedly, when Yukon created the Vermin account, he did not contact Stone about the multiple accounts because he had forgotten all about PM. Of course, he did not need a new Vermin Exterminator account to send or receive PM until March 29, 2011, the day Ibluafartsky started a thread saying he was gay. And then he activated Vermin Exterminator and failed to PM Stone because he "forgot" about PM.

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http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19241&Disp=337#C337

#337. To: war (#285)

[...]

My explanation is as it has been from day two ... yukon and Ibluafartsky used the same password at both LP and LF.

[...]

Tater posted on 2011-04-10 21:04:05 ET [Locked]

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https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19591&Disp=374#C374

#374. To: Skip Intro, A K A Stone, harrowup, ALL (#327) (Edited)

[...]

Now, would you like to make a wager. I am prepred to consider a wager that I can hack your account here on LF, steal your password and post an admission/confession that you are a homosexual. (You must not have changed your password after 4/15/11). In order to make the wager, I would need a signed agreement for permissible conditions from you, and I would need the same from Stone authorizing me to be a white hat hacker (one who breaks security for non-malicious reasons such as testing the security system … as Stone would be authorizing me to do). FYI: The “white hat” hacker is also called an “ethical hacker” … and I do want to forever remain ethical. You will probably want to skip right on by this paragraph because the minimum wager must be an extremely large amount (to be specified later) for me to take time to do it … and there would be certain mutually restrictive agreed conditions, plus the monies would be held in an escrow account.

[...]

OriginalGatlin posted on 2011-04-16 20:13:17 ET

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http://the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=23395&Disp=367#C367

#367. To: nolu chan, Robin (#301)

A hacker who could get into any yukon account in minutes wouldn't care about the slight possibility of a password change.

I've had very minimal net access for about the last month, so am late in responding.

There have been suggestions aired that my software has a vulnerability that allows hackers to determine passwords at will. If there is, I don't know what that is. For that matter, even though I have full access to the server hosting this site, I do not know how to determine anyone's PW (short of modifying the software to report it too me as people log in) as it is encoded in the data files and I don't have the means, at least as I sit here, to decode that data. And that's with access to the server hosting the site.

There is at least one vulnerability that I know of and it would be remedied by making the site encrypted (https vs http). But even that vulnerability would require some kind of wiretapping access to the data going between the server and user which is something the NSA or backbone ISPs would have. Individual hackers working from home wouldn't normally have that wiretapping access.

I'll go on record with this challenge: If there's a hacker out there who can determine passwords, I challenge him/her to change my PW.

Exceptions: #1) A brute force trial and error approach of having a computer attempt to long in millions of times with all kinds of PWs could eventually stumble upon the target's PW. #2) A victim who had a simple PW, like say using their screen name as a PW could be hacked as well just by someone trying obvious PWs.

I think those exceptions and wiretapping aside, it would be pretty tough to determine PWs.

Pinguinite posted on 2011-05-15 1:08:51 ET

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Thus ended the bullshit stories about being able to just hack on in and grab passwords and not leave a trace behind.

Of course, after the initial hacked and stolen link bullshit story was demolished, but before the last bullshit story, came an intermediate bullshit story, or two.

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19824&Disp=19#C19

#19. To: calcon (#15)

deleted again

OriginalGatlin posted on 2011-04-24 11:10:49 ET

Deleted, but it lives on.

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19824&Disp=28#C28

#28. To: calcon (#19) (Edited)

(Gatlin) The gay link was never posted to show that yukon was a homo ... the gay link was posted to draw out and expose posters like you.

It is doing that ...

We have just witnessed the birth of a new cover story.

Let us all now join together to sing a rousing rendition of "Happy Birthday!"

EVERYBODY! "Happy birthday to youuuuuuuuuuuuuu ........

Tag line: I wuz HACKED, cuz I SAY so!

Wood_Chopper posted on 2011-04-24 11:29:57 ET

Of course the gay link was deliberately posted, not to show that yukon was a homo, but to draw out posters like calcon.

As many as three quarters of a million views to a thread at LF attest to the entertainment value of the flailing bullshit stories that were thrown against the wall in a futile attempt to defend yukon. They came from far and near to see yukon crash and burn. They were not disappointed.

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Anyone who posts a dot decimal IPA containing "291" is not likely to be a master hacker. There was a string of "brilliant" poster comments about trying to track this IPA unsuccessfully. Much later, Gatlin was still trying to defend it as a valid IPA. He never seemed to address how he could shovel 291 into 8 bits of binary memory.

These would-be hackers look like incompetents who were unable to figure out WHY 95.154.230.291 was invalid.

#907.

To: ALL, yukon, Gatlin, 22Rifle, Internet sleuths (#906)

I'm posting the IP of the person who hacked Yukon's posting file.

95.154.230.253 password hacker (hacked yukon)

95.154.230.291

Maybe someone can find him/her. Isn't there some legal precident for filing a lawsuit for doing that? Remember someone hacked Palin's email...and I think the guy went to jail, or something bad happened to him.

Anyone Know?

Goldi-Lox posted on 2011-04-04 17:54:56 ET

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#911. To: Goldi-Lox (#907)

95.154.230.291 is not a valid IP address.

Retrieving DNS records for 95.154.230.291... Attempt to get a DNS server for 95.154.230.291 failed: 95.154.230.291 does not exist in the DNS

WhiteSands posted on 2011-04-04 18:04:09 ET

No value of 291 can exist in one byte of computer memory.

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#914. To: Goldi-Lox (#909)

95.154.230.291

A total dead end on the second ... I did a copy and paste, do I have the correct numbers?

Gatlin posted on 2011-04-04 18:05:09 ET

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#916. To: Goldi-Lox (#914)

95.154.230.291 is an invalid IP address

Got that back on the second try.

Gatlin posted on 2011-04-04 18:08:45 ET

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Searched DNS records for 291. Check.

Did a copy and paste and retried to be sure. Check.

The group no awareness that 291 is mathematically impossible. One byte of computer memory contains eight bits, and that provides a number range from 0 to 255. That is 256, 2⁸ possibilities, including the zero. 11111111₂ = 255. Can't get no mo'.

Master computer hackers strutting their stuff. The whole lot of the incompetent computer illiterates demonstrated for all to see that they did not even know what numbers were valid in an IPA (Internet Protocol Address). These were the experts who were lecturing. Binary numbers befuddled them. The Keystone Kops of computer hacking.

http://the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=23395&Disp=219#C219 [dead link/site, The Nest, TPF, The Peoples Forum]

#219. To: Fred Mertz, mcgowanjm, Robin, The Talking Mouse, IDontThinkSo, _'+?@!, war (#218)

CRITIQUE OF TATER/GATLIN'S EXPLANATION

[...]

#914. To: Goldi-Lox (#909)

95.154.230.291

A total dead end on the second ... I did a copy and paste, do I have the correct numbers?

Gatlin posted on 2011-04-04 18:05:09 ET Reply Trace

No, Adrian Lamo wannabe white hat hacker, you do not have the right numbers. The right numbers range from 000-255.

[...]

nolu chan posted on 2011-04-17 15:21:07 ET

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19712&Disp=486#C486

#486. To: harrowup (#485)

Easter Monday will be a good day for both LP & LF and a very nasty day for bucky and several of his cohorts,

You'll want to draw more than your 'curtains', Bobby.

While you're busy trying to scare the shit out of everyone Mr. Mighty Hacker, can you explain how you can get 291 out of 11111111.

Oh, and what precautions you've taken against being hacked yourself?

Tag line: I wuz HACKED, cuz I SAY so!

Wood_Chopper posted on 2011-04-23 1:30:25 ET

Unfortunately, I just don't want to post at LF any more.

The Truthers, the Trump-haters, the cop-haters, the weirdos publishing their own promos for their crappy self-published wacko prophecy books (Barry Midyet), the bizarre cross-forum posts of fake-illiterates (Boris), and now the crowning achievement of LF free speech, the Flat Earthers, have so degraded the value of LF as a site worth posting to on a regular basis, that I have chosen to disregard LF as a forum that I want to post on.

So thanks for these posts. But I'll pass on doing much posting here at LF. Free speech shouldn't mean a forum wide-open for any kook that wanders in and wants to use LF as a platform for themselves at Stone's expense and regardless of how many people are driven away when wackos control the sidebar.

It would help IMO if Neil re-instituted the Biker Bar feature. While it was discontinued over at LP due to its tendency to bog down site response times when the database had grown to a certain size, that wouldn't be a problem at LF if some reasonable moderation was used. But paying attention to LF's content is the primary problem it has. You don't need a Biker Bar if you're willing to impose some hard and fast standards on the site as a whole. But that isn't going to happen either.

I've found other places to post. I suggest you do the same. The last thing you'll ever get at LF is a fair and meaty debate of the issues.

Unfortunately, I just don't want to post at LF any more.

The Truthers, the Trump-haters, the cop-haters, the weirdos publishing their own promos for their crappy self-published wacko prophecy books (Barry Midyet), the bizarre cross-forum posts of fake-illiterates (Boris), and now the crowning achievement of LF free speech, the Flat Earthers, have so degraded the value of LF as a site worth posting to on a regular basis, that I have chosen to disregard LF as a forum that I want to post on.

It has become a repository of wacko dingbat bullshit and fake news. Flat Earthers are supplemented by Bigfoot; marijuana is the universal cureall; cops brutalize or kill innocent man who dindu nuttin, for no reason at all; CPS kidnaps babies; and WW2 "lasted exactly 3½ years as prophesied," (1939-1945?); etc., etc., etc. It's embarrassing to be associated with.

Unfortunately, I just don't want to post at LF any more either.

I did not post at all from 3/5 until 5/23, and only sporadically since.

LOL. Stay well.

Maybe I'll post a little trollbait in the sidebar tonight. King Donald had a little victory tonight that he's tweeting about. It can't be any crazier than the usual batshit that gets posted on LF's sidebar.

It's embarrassing to be associated with.

Exactly so. My posting here dropped off sharply after I asked myself, "Would you ever invite anyone to post here at LF?". And you're right: it is too embarrassing to let anyone IRL know that I even read this forum.