Omg Omg Omg! Arizona Chandler police department just broke in Sarah Becks door WITHOUT a warrant!!! Unvaxxed kids are being stolen! The frantic post shared on Facebook went viral earlier this week. Anti-vax conspiracy theorists swarmed and shared the update all over social media. However, the story provided in the update wasnt true. Arizona police say the children were in immediate medical danger and they had a warrant to remove the children from home.
When the post was shared earlier this week by a friend of Sarah Beck, anti-vaxxers shared the information in groups and on pages. Individuals expressed outrage, anger, and paranoia that police were removing children from anti-vaccine parents.
Almost immediately discussions broke out that Arizona DCS was kidnapping unvaccinated children to sell them into foster care. Many said that unvaccinated children are highly in demand because they are incredibly healthy. Several discussed an Arizona kidnapping cartel.
While many believed the post at face value, others that knew the family personally attempted to stop the misinformation from spreading. One woman, a former friend of Sarahs, said the post left out critical details about the case.
For instance, she said DCS had been involved with the family multiple times. Additionally, she said the police took the children because a doctor feared one of the children had meningitis.
According to the woman, Sarah had taken her 2-year-old son to see their naturopath earlier in the day. At the clinic, the boy, Heder, had a fever of 105 degrees. The naturopath told Sarah that she needed to take Heder to the hospital. Sarah didnt agree with the provider and left the clinic.
Later in the day, Sarah called the naturopath to tell them she would not be taking her son to the hospital. Sarah expressed to the doctor that his fever had gone down and she wasnt concerned anymore. When the naturopath learned the boy was still at home, they called the Department of Child Safety and filed a report.
Based on the information provided by the former friend, the childrens vaccination status did not play a role in the case.
As the rumors spread online, Sarah and her partner Brooks Bryce reached out to local media to cover the story. Multiple news outlets in Arizona picked up the story.
AZ Family interviewed the couple outside of their home. They said that police broke down their door and took their three children. Sarah said that police came to the house after a naturopath reported her to DCS for failing to bring her son to the hospital.
In the interview, Sarah confirmed everything her former friend shared online earlier in the week. At the clinic, her son Heder had a fever of 105. Sarah said she retook his temperature in the car on the way home. According to Sarah, the Heders temperature was 102. She noted that Heder acted normal in the car and danced with his siblings.
She admitted that she called the naturopath and told them that she wasnt concerned about Heders fever. However, the naturopath believed that Heder had meningitis and needed life-saving medical help. Fearful for the boys life, the naturopath called DCS to file a report.
After receiving the report from the doctor, DCS reached out to the parents to investigate. Brooks said that he spoke with a social worker and refused to take his son to the hospital. Brooks told AZ Family,
They said Brooks, you have to come out of your house right now we have to check on them [kids], and I said, I have Heber in my arms, hes doing fine, his temperature is 100 degrees. Hes safe hes asleep, could you please just leave us alone, Brooks Bryce, the boys dad, said.
Unable to convince the couple to take Heder to the hospital, DCS requested a temporary custody order from a judge. Police showed up at the couples home with the custody order and knocked on the door multiple times. Brooks refused to open the door and comply with their requests.
Because Brooks would not cooperate with police, authorities were forced to bust down the front door to remove the children. Inside the home, the police say they found all three children sick and symptomatic.The police report indicated that the home had clutter all over the floor which made it difficult to walk. In one of the childrens bedroom, authorities found vomit all over the beds. The couple admitted the children had vomited several times and they had not cleaned up the mess.
Details from the police report:
-there was a present danger [to the child] that required immediate medical attention
-Brooks and Sarah refused to come outside and refused to let DCS check on the welfare of [the child].
-There was a court order signed by the judge giving DCS temporary custody of [the child] in order to get him medical treatment.
In the couples bedroom, police found a shotgun that was not locked or secured. Brooks disputed the claim about the gun and insisted the weapon doesnt work.
After completing a search of the home, the police called for an ambulance. Two of the children were taken by ambulance to the hospital. A DCS worker took the third child to the hospital by car. The naturopaths concerns were not unfounded. Doctors admitted Heder into the hospital to treat his symptoms.
Since the DCS removed the children from home, the couple has not seen their children. They were supposed to meet with social workers, but the couple said DCS canceled the appointment.
Police say that there have been no criminal charges filed in the case. However, the investigation is still on-going.
Sarah and Brooks told multiple agencies that their children are not vaccinated, but they do not believe their vaccination status has anything to do with this case.
This story highlights the fact that misinformation spreads quickly on Facebook. People took a status update at face value. They shared the status all over social media and created a frenzy based on unsubstantiated claims. Anti-vaxxers used the story to further their narrative that DCS medically kidnaps children. Additionally, they fed into conspiracy theorists that believe social service workers capture and sell children into foster care.
Absolutely all of their fears were completely unfounded. DCS was forced to remove the child because the parents failed to take the child to the hospital. Heders fever was extraordinarily high and indicative of a bacterial infection. Instead of following the doctors orders, the parents decided not to treat their son.
Anti-vaxxers consistently use stories like this to tarnish the reputations of doctors, government agencies, and hospitals. They never consider the fact that the parents in the case might be at fault.
This is an important reminder to be cautious of what you see online. Just because someone cries medical kidnapping doesnt mean its real.
#46: Gatlin To: GrandIsland (#40)
Please .Please .Please.
Oh, please, GrandIsland.
Teach me how to be appalling to cause shock or dismay and be horrific to a libertarian in one sentence.
I keep trying .
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 12:15:55 Reply Private Reply
#47: nolu chan To: Tooconservative, A K A Stone, Decker, GrandIsland (#40)
For my extended take of this, see the other thread.
https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=58512&Disp=49#C49
Just a brief snapshot about meningitis and the flu.
Did the requesting authority inform the judge that the doctor was an N.D. who was medically incompetent to diagnose meningitis or to distinguish between a bacterial or viral infection? The N.D. was less qualified than a veterinarian for that purpose. The authorities had neither a diagnosis nor a competent medical opinion at the time of requesting the authorization to force entry.
nolu chan posted on 2019-03-03 12:21:37 Reply Private Reply
#48: Tooconservative To: Gatlin (#41)
You're damned by your own mouth.
Repent.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-03 12:24:22 Reply Private Reply
#49: Tooconservative To: Gatlin (#41)
You can hardly type fast enough to keep up with the "libertarian whiners". Post after post, day after day. Because, like, your time is so valuable.
Right.
You sound like some old whore saying, "You know, I really don't like cocks all that much."
Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-03 12:27:06 Reply Private Reply
#50: Tooconservative To: GrandIsland (#42)
You are peddling a self-serving liberty-hating view of the Constitution.
Properly formulated, it is the state which has no constitutional right to remove these children from their parents, given the facts as described in this article and in other local reporting from news outlets in Arizona.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-03 12:29:35 Reply Private Reply
#51: Tooconservative To: nolu chan (#47)
This is a case where CPS and the local cops just went crazy, it seems.
I wonder if these parents really were targeted for being anti-vaxxers or something. Or is the Arizona CPS just this awful?
And what of the judge who foolishly consented to this scandalous kidnapping of children from their parents under false pretenses and with so little evidence of any harm being done? That judge deserves a lot more scrutiny, in this case as well as her entire caseload.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-03 12:32:42 Reply Private Reply
#52: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#49)
And you sound like a libertarian saying, You know, I really like cocks shoved up my ass so give me some more.
I am not sure which of those comments is more stupid and childish.
Maybe we can get a forum vote.
In the meantime, you need to grow the fuck up and try to mature just a bit.
Oh, I am still waiting for those facts lol.
For some reason, namely that I am dealing with a libertarian .I never expect to see them.
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 13:06:56 Reply Private Reply
#53: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#49)
Kicking the shit out of libertarians is proper use of valuable time.
At least it is to me.
And after all, its my valuable time and I can use it any way I desire.
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 13:10:11 Reply Private Reply
#54: GrandIsland To: Tooconservative (#50)
lol... and thats your problem. When you work with shit... your conclusions and opinions are shit.
Like I stated above from the start. I didnt read the article, I dont give two fucks about the article... and I pass no opinion towards vaccines or laws requiring them.
Whether this article was written or not, or if this incident didnt happen or it did, CPS will take referrals from ANYONE, and they are obligated to follow those allegations up. Even if that causes you to shat your Ron Paul boxer shorts.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-03-03 13:13:29 Reply Private Reply
#55: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#48)
May I have a second option?
Like either become a libertarian or pull a Hermann Wilhelm Göring?
Any facts yet?
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 13:15:44 Reply Private Reply
#56: Hondo68 To: Tooconservative, wrong link tater (#49)
Tater is still logged onto yukon's wrong link... lovethecocks.com
Hondo68 posted on 2019-03-03 13:20:07 Reply Private Reply
#57: GrandIsland To: Gatlin (#55)
Geeez, this site does not need another one of those... unless youre gonna be a civil and tolerant Paultard and take the position that youre here to tell others your opinion and not expect other posters to be indoctrinated by you...(IOWs, youDONT have an AGENDA).
Thats what makes a paultard an asshole, btw.
The moral of this post... be yourself. Even a libertarian... but dont ever be an asshole (code for Paultard).
GrandIsland posted on 2019-03-03 13:20:11 Reply Private Reply
#58: GrandIsland To: hondo68 (#56)
Only you would remember the name of the site.
Makes you suspicious.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-03-03 13:22:30 Reply Private Reply
#59: Gatlin To: GrandIsland (#57)
Oh, well.
No doubt the best choice anyway.
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 13:23:24 Reply Private Reply
#60: Tooconservative To: GrandIsland, hondo68 (#58)
It sounded...off...to me. So I checked it via search engine.
It appears that it is lovethecock.com (singular).
Fortunately, none of us appear to have remembered it accurately.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-03 14:51:21 Reply Private Reply
#61: Tooconservative To: Gatlin (#55)
Are you addressing me? I thought you announced you were too busy to post to me about 5-6 posts ago.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-03 14:53:36 Reply Private Reply
#62: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#61)
I found the first definition was:
So, I decided I wasnt doing that to you.Then I found the second definition was:
I definitely decided I wasnt doing that either.I looked and there were no further definitions.
After carefully considering all of that, I will answer your question.
No.
I am not addressing you.
What I am doing is responding to the post you made to me.
And in my response to the post you made to me, I asked you:
So since you maybe didnt understand the question, I will ask you again: I patiently await your reply .where you include FACTS of course. Yes.Yes, I did definitely announce that I was too busy to post to you.
But never did I announce that I was too busy to read the facts you post TO me.
Did I?
I will answer my own question, thank you.
No, I did not.
So, I will ask again:
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 15:35:26 Reply Private Reply
#63: GrandIsland To: Tooconservative (#60)
That makes me feel a little better.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-03-03 15:56:33 Reply Private Reply
#64: Hondo68 To: GrandIsland (#63)
Because you followed the link, gayblade!
Hondo68 posted on 2019-03-03 16:06:44 Reply Private Reply
#65: buckeroo To: hondo68, tater, GI (#64)
buckeroo posted on 2019-03-03 16:41:59 Reply Private Reply
#66: Tooconservative To: Gatlin (#62)
I hope you two will be very happy together.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-03 17:13:17 Reply Private Reply
#67: Tooconservative To: buckeroo, Gatlin, GrandIsland, A K A Stone (#65)
Funny you should ask. A lot of people, including GoldiLox, thought you were using HideMyAss VPN to masquerade under yukon's handle and then posted that very same infamous link under his handle over at LP.
I'm sure you recall the accusations against you.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-03 17:16:13 Reply Private Reply
#68: buckeroo To: Tooconservative, AKA Stone (#67)
buckeroo posted on 2019-03-03 17:22:41 Reply Private Reply
#69: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#66)
Thank you for you best wishes.
And I can assure more happy that we would ever be together with some asshole Paultard libertarian.
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 17:30:50 Reply Private Reply
#70: GrandIsland To: Tooconservative (#67)
Im glad you brought that up. Thats my guess as to what happened. BuckerGoo is the most disruptive poster Ive ever seen, on any forum.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-03-03 17:32:08 Reply Private Reply
#71: Tooconservative To: buckeroo (#68)
Of course, we note that you still do not offer any vehement denial.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-03 17:33:15 Reply Private Reply
#72: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#67)
Yep, a lot of people did think that buckeroo posted that infamous link under [yukon's] handle at LP.
Some, at least one person I know of, still firmly holds that belief today.
Edit: Make that two people. I just read another post.
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 17:34:54 Reply Private Reply
#73: Tooconservative To: GrandIsland, buckeroo, A K A Stone (#70)
I think it's about 50-50. Either yukon was gay and posted a lurid link and left out of embarrassment or buckeroo did hack his account and posted a naughty link as part of an article(!). I guess I think it's actually 60%-70% likely it was just yukon flying his true colors by accident. Otherwise, why did he flee, apparently in shame? You wouldn't do that if you got hacked and someone posted an article with a lurid link as an "accident", would you? I don't think you would. You'd keep going on the forum, guns blazing, insisting that you wuz hacked. But yukon didn't. And we know he did otherwise have a very thick hide and endless appetite for online baiting/posting. Instead, he disappeared like some Rumpelstiltskin.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-03 17:38:58 Reply Private Reply
#74: Gatlin To: buckeroo (#65)
Sex offender who won Alaska lottery beaten with iron pipe
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 17:39:05 Reply Private Reply
#75: buckeroo To: Tooconservative (#71)
Oh "WE" do?
One more time, I do not subscribe to third party capabilities.
buckeroo posted on 2019-03-03 17:39:20 Reply Private Reply
#76: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#73)
OMG .I just realized I am posting to you.
Oh well, I did find a little spare time.
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 17:42:21 Reply Private Reply
#77: Gatlin To: buckeroo. Tooconservative (#75)
Tooconservative + Gatlin = "WE"
So TC is numerically correct.
Not many times have I ever found him wrong.
Cantankerous sometimes, maybe.
But wrong ????
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 17:45:43 Reply Private Reply
#78: buckeroo To: Gatlin (#74)
buckeroo posted on 2019-03-03 17:52:19 Reply Private Reply
#79: Tooconservative To: Gatlin, buckeroo, GrandIsland, A K A Stone, hondo68 (#72)
A few posters over at 4um seemed to suspect bucky as well, having reviewed the IP address history that Goldi provided. You recall my posts at LP about this at the time.
Damn...I wonder if I've still got a bookmark for it?
Why, yes, I do.
LP: LP FUNDRAISER
You can find Goldi, yukon, Gatlin, me nad others there. You can see where I posted via the public HideMyAss VPN server and then Goldi checked her IP logs to see that I was posting from the same IP address range as the original yukon gay-porn post was made (post #979).
Glancing at a few other old LP threads, I realized that LP was just never the same once yukon was no longer there 24/7, calling some poor soul a "dishonorable asshole" a half-dozen times on every thread. LOL
Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-03 17:59:05 Reply Private Reply
#80: Hondo68 To: Gatlin, Liberator, Canary Clan, The Skipper, Gilligan too (#76)
(((( PING ))))
The cowardly fag tater didn't have the guts to ping you.
Hondo68 posted on 2019-03-03 18:00:19 Reply Private Reply
#81: Gatlin To: buckeroo (#78)
Damn, I am surprise.
I am astonished.
I am truly amazed,
And you have impressed me greatly.
Why and how?
You knew the word archaic and you knew how to property construct a sentence using the word.
I have strong hopes you will continue to work on your vocabulary.
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 18:04:11 Reply Private Reply
#82: Hondo68 To: Tooconservative (#79)
Best post evah on LP.
Hondo68 posted on 2019-03-03 18:05:10 Reply Private Reply
#83: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#79)
Ah yes, I forgot about that.
I chatted with Yukon on back channel all the time.
I was getting the story from him from the first moment of the incident and even when he could not sign in until Goldi and Stone gave him a new password since his old one had been changed.
I of course never believe it was him and strongly suspected it was Bucky all the time that had compromised his password.
Goldi said, as you may well remember that she guessed Yukons password on LP.
You may also remember that I said I guessed yukons password on LF on the first try.
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 18:11:23 Reply Private Reply
#84: GrandIsland To: Tooconservative (#73)
Im not buying it. He was an Alaskan dude, talked about 4x4s, guns, conservative values and so on. We had one self proclaimed fag posting, that was Meguro. If you remember, Meguro was a flaming LIBERAL. IMHO, most filthy fags are liberal minded.
I guarantee if Yukon was posting today, hed be supporting Trump. No faggot on this planet likes Trump. Think about it. Yukon was hated like a devil by the cop hating drug loving paultard cult. They NEVER allowed another ideology without pushback. Its how they indoctrinate.
Yukon abused them at every turn. The only way they could keep LP an indoctrinated anti government sounding board, was to remove or discredit Yukon.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-03-03 18:11:45 Reply Private Reply
#85: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#73)
Didnt Goldi finally ban him?
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 18:15:32 Reply Private Reply
#86: GrandIsland To: Gatlin (#85)
That paranoid bitch banned me, for no other reason than Obama won a second term. Out of the blue, the C U Next Thursday banned me about 15 minutes after his second term was announced.
She didnt like cops... Im sure the cops didnt care for her smell, after finding her melted into her hardwood floor.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-03-03 18:19:20 Reply Private Reply
#87: Gatlin To: GrandIsland (#84)
Yes,
And he lived out in the wilderness far from town and used a phone line to connect to the Internet.
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 18:20:02 Reply Private Reply
#88: Gatlin To: GrandIsland (#86)
That's true.
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 18:20:42 Reply Private Reply
#89: Tooconservative To: Gatlin (#77)
He knows we want to hear a denial. So he refuses to give it.
I'm still not sure he has technical skills adequate to break into yucko's account. Not impossible. But a dictionary attack would likely have done the trick. Most people reuse the same common passwords over and over. Left to their own devices, most people will use 'password' or '1234' as their password. It's pathetic.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-03 18:20:43 Reply Private Reply
#90: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#89)
Woah, no one broke into his account.
Goldi figured out someone guessed his password.
Her posts sill on fill will show that she immediately guessed his password.
I forget what it was.
But I remember I guessed his password on LF and he confirmed it. It was the first word of his screen name.
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 18:25:20 Reply Private Reply
#91: Tooconservative To: Gatlin (#90)
I quizzed yukon directly and he kept denying using a common or easy-to-guess password.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-03 18:30:48 Reply Private Reply
#92: buckeroo To: GrandIsland (#86)
A good perspective.
buckeroo posted on 2019-03-03 18:37:46 Reply Private Reply
#93: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#91)
I dont know why he said that.
Goldis post is still out there somewhere.
And my post is still here on LF somewhere.
Where we both said we guessed his password.
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 18:39:47 Reply Private Reply
#94: Gatlin To: buckeroo (#92)
OMG ...
You know a second big word.
I am amazed.
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 18:42:04 Reply Private Reply
#95: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#91)
I dont remember if it was made public but he was a 24/7 caregiver and everyone wondered why he was on the forum so much and so many odd hours. It was because he had to take care of his wife even at odd times and would post while he was up.
His wife passed away during that fiasco he was going through. That made it doubly bad for him.
He, harrowup and I exchanged emails for a long time after he was no longer on LP. He never expressed anger, just disappointment that someone would do such a thing to him.
I was also made aware of harrowup recurring cancer. I really didnt know the details except he had an arm amputated and he had to give up flying his own airplane from WI to the Texas panhandle to visit friends and relatives.
I could go on but I will stop here.
I just got started down memory lane and kept keying in words.
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 18:45:27 Reply Private Reply