Omg Omg Omg! Arizona Chandler police department just broke in Sarah Becks door WITHOUT a warrant!!! Unvaxxed kids are being stolen! The frantic post shared on Facebook went viral earlier this week. Anti-vax conspiracy theorists swarmed and shared the update all over social media. However, the story provided in the update wasnt true. Arizona police say the children were in immediate medical danger and they had a warrant to remove the children from home.
When the post was shared earlier this week by a friend of Sarah Beck, anti-vaxxers shared the information in groups and on pages. Individuals expressed outrage, anger, and paranoia that police were removing children from anti-vaccine parents.
Almost immediately discussions broke out that Arizona DCS was kidnapping unvaccinated children to sell them into foster care. Many said that unvaccinated children are highly in demand because they are incredibly healthy. Several discussed an Arizona kidnapping cartel.
While many believed the post at face value, others that knew the family personally attempted to stop the misinformation from spreading. One woman, a former friend of Sarahs, said the post left out critical details about the case.
For instance, she said DCS had been involved with the family multiple times. Additionally, she said the police took the children because a doctor feared one of the children had meningitis.
According to the woman, Sarah had taken her 2-year-old son to see their naturopath earlier in the day. At the clinic, the boy, Heder, had a fever of 105 degrees. The naturopath told Sarah that she needed to take Heder to the hospital. Sarah didnt agree with the provider and left the clinic.
Later in the day, Sarah called the naturopath to tell them she would not be taking her son to the hospital. Sarah expressed to the doctor that his fever had gone down and she wasnt concerned anymore. When the naturopath learned the boy was still at home, they called the Department of Child Safety and filed a report.
Based on the information provided by the former friend, the childrens vaccination status did not play a role in the case.
As the rumors spread online, Sarah and her partner Brooks Bryce reached out to local media to cover the story. Multiple news outlets in Arizona picked up the story.
AZ Family interviewed the couple outside of their home. They said that police broke down their door and took their three children. Sarah said that police came to the house after a naturopath reported her to DCS for failing to bring her son to the hospital.
In the interview, Sarah confirmed everything her former friend shared online earlier in the week. At the clinic, her son Heder had a fever of 105. Sarah said she retook his temperature in the car on the way home. According to Sarah, the Heders temperature was 102. She noted that Heder acted normal in the car and danced with his siblings.
She admitted that she called the naturopath and told them that she wasnt concerned about Heders fever. However, the naturopath believed that Heder had meningitis and needed life-saving medical help. Fearful for the boys life, the naturopath called DCS to file a report.
After receiving the report from the doctor, DCS reached out to the parents to investigate. Brooks said that he spoke with a social worker and refused to take his son to the hospital. Brooks told AZ Family,
They said Brooks, you have to come out of your house right now we have to check on them [kids], and I said, I have Heber in my arms, hes doing fine, his temperature is 100 degrees. Hes safe hes asleep, could you please just leave us alone, Brooks Bryce, the boys dad, said.
Unable to convince the couple to take Heder to the hospital, DCS requested a temporary custody order from a judge. Police showed up at the couples home with the custody order and knocked on the door multiple times. Brooks refused to open the door and comply with their requests.
Because Brooks would not cooperate with police, authorities were forced to bust down the front door to remove the children. Inside the home, the police say they found all three children sick and symptomatic.The police report indicated that the home had clutter all over the floor which made it difficult to walk. In one of the childrens bedroom, authorities found vomit all over the beds. The couple admitted the children had vomited several times and they had not cleaned up the mess.
Details from the police report:
-there was a present danger [to the child] that required immediate medical attention
-Brooks and Sarah refused to come outside and refused to let DCS check on the welfare of [the child].
-There was a court order signed by the judge giving DCS temporary custody of [the child] in order to get him medical treatment.
In the couples bedroom, police found a shotgun that was not locked or secured. Brooks disputed the claim about the gun and insisted the weapon doesnt work.
After completing a search of the home, the police called for an ambulance. Two of the children were taken by ambulance to the hospital. A DCS worker took the third child to the hospital by car. The naturopaths concerns were not unfounded. Doctors admitted Heder into the hospital to treat his symptoms.
Since the DCS removed the children from home, the couple has not seen their children. They were supposed to meet with social workers, but the couple said DCS canceled the appointment.
Police say that there have been no criminal charges filed in the case. However, the investigation is still on-going.
Sarah and Brooks told multiple agencies that their children are not vaccinated, but they do not believe their vaccination status has anything to do with this case.
This story highlights the fact that misinformation spreads quickly on Facebook. People took a status update at face value. They shared the status all over social media and created a frenzy based on unsubstantiated claims. Anti-vaxxers used the story to further their narrative that DCS medically kidnaps children. Additionally, they fed into conspiracy theorists that believe social service workers capture and sell children into foster care.
Absolutely all of their fears were completely unfounded. DCS was forced to remove the child because the parents failed to take the child to the hospital. Heders fever was extraordinarily high and indicative of a bacterial infection. Instead of following the doctors orders, the parents decided not to treat their son.
Anti-vaxxers consistently use stories like this to tarnish the reputations of doctors, government agencies, and hospitals. They never consider the fact that the parents in the case might be at fault.
This is an important reminder to be cautious of what you see online. Just because someone cries medical kidnapping doesnt mean its real.
#67: Tooconservative To: buckeroo, Gatlin, GrandIsland, A K A Stone (#65)
Funny you should ask. A lot of people, including GoldiLox, thought you were using HideMyAss VPN to masquerade under yukon's handle and then posted that very same infamous link under his handle over at LP.
I'm sure you recall the accusations against you.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-03 17:16:13 Reply Private Reply
#68: buckeroo To: Tooconservative, AKA Stone (#67)
buckeroo posted on 2019-03-03 17:22:41 Reply Private Reply
#69: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#66)
Thank you for you best wishes.
And I can assure more happy that we would ever be together with some asshole Paultard libertarian.
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 17:30:50 Reply Private Reply
#70: GrandIsland To: Tooconservative (#67)
Im glad you brought that up. Thats my guess as to what happened. BuckerGoo is the most disruptive poster Ive ever seen, on any forum.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-03-03 17:32:08 Reply Private Reply
#71: Tooconservative To: buckeroo (#68)
Of course, we note that you still do not offer any vehement denial.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-03 17:33:15 Reply Private Reply
#72: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#67)
Yep, a lot of people did think that buckeroo posted that infamous link under [yukon's] handle at LP.
Some, at least one person I know of, still firmly holds that belief today.
Edit: Make that two people. I just read another post.
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 17:34:54 Reply Private Reply
#73: Tooconservative To: GrandIsland, buckeroo, A K A Stone (#70)
I think it's about 50-50. Either yukon was gay and posted a lurid link and left out of embarrassment or buckeroo did hack his account and posted a naughty link as part of an article(!). I guess I think it's actually 60%-70% likely it was just yukon flying his true colors by accident. Otherwise, why did he flee, apparently in shame? You wouldn't do that if you got hacked and someone posted an article with a lurid link as an "accident", would you? I don't think you would. You'd keep going on the forum, guns blazing, insisting that you wuz hacked. But yukon didn't. And we know he did otherwise have a very thick hide and endless appetite for online baiting/posting. Instead, he disappeared like some Rumpelstiltskin.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-03 17:38:58 Reply Private Reply
#74: Gatlin To: buckeroo (#65)
Sex offender who won Alaska lottery beaten with iron pipe
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 17:39:05 Reply Private Reply
#75: buckeroo To: Tooconservative (#71)
Oh "WE" do?
One more time, I do not subscribe to third party capabilities.
buckeroo posted on 2019-03-03 17:39:20 Reply Private Reply
#76: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#73)
OMG .I just realized I am posting to you.
Oh well, I did find a little spare time.
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 17:42:21 Reply Private Reply
#77: Gatlin To: buckeroo. Tooconservative (#75)
Tooconservative + Gatlin = "WE"
So TC is numerically correct.
Not many times have I ever found him wrong.
Cantankerous sometimes, maybe.
But wrong ????
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 17:45:43 Reply Private Reply
#78: buckeroo To: Gatlin (#74)
buckeroo posted on 2019-03-03 17:52:19 Reply Private Reply
#79: Tooconservative To: Gatlin, buckeroo, GrandIsland, A K A Stone, hondo68 (#72)
A few posters over at 4um seemed to suspect bucky as well, having reviewed the IP address history that Goldi provided. You recall my posts at LP about this at the time.
Damn...I wonder if I've still got a bookmark for it?
Why, yes, I do.
LP: LP FUNDRAISER
You can find Goldi, yukon, Gatlin, me nad others there. You can see where I posted via the public HideMyAss VPN server and then Goldi checked her IP logs to see that I was posting from the same IP address range as the original yukon gay-porn post was made (post #979).
Glancing at a few other old LP threads, I realized that LP was just never the same once yukon was no longer there 24/7, calling some poor soul a "dishonorable asshole" a half-dozen times on every thread. LOL
Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-03 17:59:05 Reply Private Reply
#80: Hondo68 To: Gatlin, Liberator, Canary Clan, The Skipper, Gilligan too (#76)
(((( PING ))))
The cowardly fag tater didn't have the guts to ping you.
Hondo68 posted on 2019-03-03 18:00:19 Reply Private Reply
#81: Gatlin To: buckeroo (#78)
Damn, I am surprise.
I am astonished.
I am truly amazed,
And you have impressed me greatly.
Why and how?
You knew the word archaic and you knew how to property construct a sentence using the word.
I have strong hopes you will continue to work on your vocabulary.
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 18:04:11 Reply Private Reply
#82: Hondo68 To: Tooconservative (#79)
Best post evah on LP.
Hondo68 posted on 2019-03-03 18:05:10 Reply Private Reply
#83: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#79)
Ah yes, I forgot about that.
I chatted with Yukon on back channel all the time.
I was getting the story from him from the first moment of the incident and even when he could not sign in until Goldi and Stone gave him a new password since his old one had been changed.
I of course never believe it was him and strongly suspected it was Bucky all the time that had compromised his password.
Goldi said, as you may well remember that she guessed Yukons password on LP.
You may also remember that I said I guessed yukons password on LF on the first try.
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 18:11:23 Reply Private Reply
#84: GrandIsland To: Tooconservative (#73)
Im not buying it. He was an Alaskan dude, talked about 4x4s, guns, conservative values and so on. We had one self proclaimed fag posting, that was Meguro. If you remember, Meguro was a flaming LIBERAL. IMHO, most filthy fags are liberal minded.
I guarantee if Yukon was posting today, hed be supporting Trump. No faggot on this planet likes Trump. Think about it. Yukon was hated like a devil by the cop hating drug loving paultard cult. They NEVER allowed another ideology without pushback. Its how they indoctrinate.
Yukon abused them at every turn. The only way they could keep LP an indoctrinated anti government sounding board, was to remove or discredit Yukon.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-03-03 18:11:45 Reply Private Reply
#85: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#73)
Didnt Goldi finally ban him?
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 18:15:32 Reply Private Reply
#86: GrandIsland To: Gatlin (#85)
That paranoid bitch banned me, for no other reason than Obama won a second term. Out of the blue, the C U Next Thursday banned me about 15 minutes after his second term was announced.
She didnt like cops... Im sure the cops didnt care for her smell, after finding her melted into her hardwood floor.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-03-03 18:19:20 Reply Private Reply
#87: Gatlin To: GrandIsland (#84)
Yes,
And he lived out in the wilderness far from town and used a phone line to connect to the Internet.
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 18:20:02 Reply Private Reply
#88: Gatlin To: GrandIsland (#86)
That's true.
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 18:20:42 Reply Private Reply
#89: Tooconservative To: Gatlin (#77)
He knows we want to hear a denial. So he refuses to give it.
I'm still not sure he has technical skills adequate to break into yucko's account. Not impossible. But a dictionary attack would likely have done the trick. Most people reuse the same common passwords over and over. Left to their own devices, most people will use 'password' or '1234' as their password. It's pathetic.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-03 18:20:43 Reply Private Reply
#90: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#89)
Woah, no one broke into his account.
Goldi figured out someone guessed his password.
Her posts sill on fill will show that she immediately guessed his password.
I forget what it was.
But I remember I guessed his password on LF and he confirmed it. It was the first word of his screen name.
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 18:25:20 Reply Private Reply
#91: Tooconservative To: Gatlin (#90)
I quizzed yukon directly and he kept denying using a common or easy-to-guess password.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-03 18:30:48 Reply Private Reply
#92: buckeroo To: GrandIsland (#86)
A good perspective.
buckeroo posted on 2019-03-03 18:37:46 Reply Private Reply
#93: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#91)
I dont know why he said that.
Goldis post is still out there somewhere.
And my post is still here on LF somewhere.
Where we both said we guessed his password.
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 18:39:47 Reply Private Reply
#94: Gatlin To: buckeroo (#92)
OMG ...
You know a second big word.
I am amazed.
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 18:42:04 Reply Private Reply
#95: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#91)
I dont remember if it was made public but he was a 24/7 caregiver and everyone wondered why he was on the forum so much and so many odd hours. It was because he had to take care of his wife even at odd times and would post while he was up.
His wife passed away during that fiasco he was going through. That made it doubly bad for him.
He, harrowup and I exchanged emails for a long time after he was no longer on LP. He never expressed anger, just disappointment that someone would do such a thing to him.
I was also made aware of harrowup recurring cancer. I really didnt know the details except he had an arm amputated and he had to give up flying his own airplane from WI to the Texas panhandle to visit friends and relatives.
I could go on but I will stop here.
I just got started down memory lane and kept keying in words.
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 18:45:27 Reply Private Reply
#96: Gatlin To: Tooconservative (#91)
Later ...
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-03 18:47:20 Reply Private Reply
#97: A K A Stone To: GrandIsland (#84)
He had an ibluafartsky account here too. He didn't use it to say he was hacked. He got real quiet on it.
A K A Stone posted on 2019-03-03 19:00:59 Reply Private Reply
#98: A K A Stone To: GrandIsland (#86)
A K A Stone posted on 2019-03-03 19:03:29 Reply Private Reply
#99: Tooconservative To: A K A Stone (#97)
Even that forum handle is full of his typical contempt.
You really have to wonder about how people manage to be such deliberately toxic a-holes on the internet. Like they're total wimps in real life or have tragically small genitalia or some dire birth defect or some deep-set emotional syndrome or toxic personality disorder. yukon's constant aggression pattern always made me think he had a chronic personality disorder of some kind.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-03 19:36:02 Reply Private Reply
#100: Tooconservative To: A K A Stone, Pinguinite (#98)
Holy crap. That thread has a lot of page views.
Views: 134493
Anyway, it sounds like a lot for a 150+ comment thread.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-03 19:42:19 Reply Private Reply
#101: Tooconservative To: All, A K A Stone, Pinguinite, hondo68, buckeroo (#100)
Even though I never posted on it, somehow I was directly quoted ((#92, SkipIntro to buckeroo), obviously talking about yukon. I had had no idea until today that I was so famous!
I assume I must have posted it over at LP and it was noticed here.
Too funny.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-03 19:57:42 Reply Private Reply
#102: Hondo68 To: Tooconservative (#101)
Skippy was banned here, probably for quoting you?
Hondo68 posted on 2019-03-03 20:04:12 Reply Private Reply
#103: CZ82 To: A K A Stone (#97)
He also had Dirty Harold and 1 or 2 more IIRC. Or am I thinking of Mad Dog?
CZ82 posted on 2019-03-03 20:05:39 Reply Private Reply
#104: Tooconservative To: hondo68 (#102)
I've no idea why he was banned. I barely recall him though I don't doubt that I posted to him a few times, as I do try to make a welcome post to new posters. I was just surprised to be quoted like that. And the phrasing is familiar; it does sound typical, like something I'd write.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-03 20:22:41 Reply Private Reply
#105: Gatlin To: GrandIsland (#0)
FYI:
Maybe you have a suspicion that a child is being abused based on something youve witnessed, or a child has told you that abuse is happening. Either way, its your responsibility to report it to the authorities.
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-04 14:11:16 Reply Private Reply
#106: BorisY To: A K A Stone, yukon (#97)
obvious now
backsTabbing hiT
wow
dead giveaway now
puke
vomiT
barf
snuff
BorisY posted on 2019-03-04 14:23:30 Reply Private Reply
#107: BorisY To: Tooconservative (#91)
he used The same password here
anyone wiTh any brains
could figure ThaT ouT
I changed my lp password
right away
disgusting
liars are liars
creeps are creeps
no conscience
no morals
The finger was always poinTing here
BorisY posted on 2019-03-04 14:51:52 Reply Private Reply
#108: nolu chan To: Tooconservative (#36)
This naturopathic physician (NP), not MD, was not trained to distinguish between bacterial or viral infection, and failed to diagnose RSV, a virus which according to the Mayo Clinic, is "so common that most children have been infected with the virus by age 2."
https://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/family/item/32369-months-after-police-raid-az-parents-granted-custody-of-their-children
Police recommended prosecution. The Maricopa County Attorney's office declined because they were unlikely to obtain any conviction. Perhaps they could try investigating and prosecuting the member of the CPS who provided information to obtain a warrant.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/respiratory-syncytial-virus/symptoms-causes/syc-20353098
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/respiratory-syncytial-virus/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20353104
From Associated Press as published by U.S. News & World Report.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/arizona/articles/2019-05-15/parents-who-refused-to-bring-son-to-hospital-win-custody
nolu chan posted on 2019-05-23 16:38:02 Reply Private Reply
#109: nolu chan To: Tooconservative (#60)
Original source thread from Liberty Post:
http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=305216 [Dead link - article/comments deleted by Liberty Post, archived by nolu chan]
nolu chan posted on 2019-05-23 16:42:41 Reply Private Reply
#110: nolu chan To: Tooconservative (#100)
Here's one with over a half-million views:
nolu chan posted on 2019-05-24 22:15:42 Reply Private Reply
#111: nolu chan To: buckeroo (#65)
At LP, Goldi got sick of him and told him he was "Puked on permanently," and closed his account.
https://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=328665&Disp=1#C1
https://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=328665&Disp=28#C28
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nolu chan posted on 2019-05-24 22:16:44 Reply Private Reply
#112: BorisY To: nolu chan (#111)
you fall for iT
dumber Than dumb
paTheTic
BorisY posted on 2019-05-25 01:58:14 Reply Private Reply
#113: nolu chan To: BorisY, A K A Stone, Tooconservative (#112)
Thank you for your thorough and documented research into this matter.
The computer illiterates who attempted to push the hack story in 2011 were reduced to a laughingstock. They demonstrated they did not know an ISP from an IPA, did not recognize an impossible IPA when it stared them in the face, but their hunt for the impossible IPA was fun to watch. Their boasts of being able to hack the passwords and not leave a trace were incinerated by the Neil/Pinguinite challenge to strut their stuff. They quickly changed their story yet again to claim that Goldi guessed a password fie yukon at LP and Gatlin guessed a password for Ibluafartsky at LF, and the evildoer must have done the same. While they claimed that the guess story was back up by PM between Gatlin and Yukon. However, when A K A Stone pressed on about this alleged PM, in Stone's words, Yukon clammed up [#329]. The story culminates with all the PM having been immediately destroyed.
Of course there was no way to verify the alleged Goldi/Gatlin password guesses, even if the PM had not been destroyed. No logon with the alleged guesses could be performed as the alleged dastardly hacker had already allegedly changed both passwords. Saying I guess the password for Iblufartsky was fartsky, and yukon declaring that to be correct is bullshit, not verification.
An early failed attempt was the use of a password cracker.
https://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=305524&Disp=196#C196
While it does not identify a hacker, computer generated logons by a password cracker occur at warp speed compared to keyboard entry. A batch of logon attempts performed faster than human ability may be identified by time stamps. Fail. No evidence of such a computer attack was found.
https://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=305524&Disp=198#C198
There is that minor problem that admitting the hacker story admits a rather large, but unidentified, security hole. Neil/Pinguinite more than adequately addressed that.
Someone creating a new account with a handle very similar to that of an existing account is not hacking.
https://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=305524&Disp=199#C199
In this early version, people plural were working constantly to guess yukon's password(s), and are assumed to have finally guessed it (or them in later versions), in minutes or on the first guess.
#484. To: A K A Stone (#482)
That was reassuring.
https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19712&Disp=All&#C491
Well, that didn't last long.
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https://www.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19591&Disp=All&
A thread with over three-quarters of a million views.
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https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=33469&Disp=10#C10
Supposedly, the related initial contacts between Gatlin and Ibluafartsky/Yukon were on LF via PM.
Also, supposedly, when Yukon created the Vermin account, he did not contact Stone about the multiple accounts because he had forgotten all about PM. Of course, he did not need a new Vermin Exterminator account to send or receive PM until March 29, 2011, the day Ibluafartsky started a thread saying he was gay. And then he activated Vermin Exterminator and failed to PM Stone because he "forgot" about PM.
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http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19241&Disp=337#C337
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https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19591&Disp=374#C374
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http://the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=23395&Disp=367#C367
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Thus ended the bullshit stories about being able to just hack on in and grab passwords and not leave a trace behind.
Of course, after the initial hacked and stolen link bullshit story was demolished, but before the last bullshit story, came an intermediate bullshit story, or two.
https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19824&Disp=19#C19
Deleted, but it lives on.
https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19824&Disp=28#C28
Of course the gay link was deliberately posted, not to show that yukon was a homo, but to draw out posters like calcon.
As many as three quarters of a million views to a thread at LF attest to the entertainment value of the flailing bullshit stories that were thrown against the wall in a futile attempt to defend yukon. They came from far and near to see yukon crash and burn. They were not disappointed.
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Anyone who posts a dot decimal IPA containing "291" is not likely to be a master hacker. There was a string of "brilliant" poster comments about trying to track this IPA unsuccessfully. Much later, Gatlin was still trying to defend it as a valid IPA. He never seemed to address how he could shovel 291 into 8 bits of binary memory.
These would-be hackers look like incompetents who were unable to figure out WHY 95.154.230.291 was invalid.
#907.
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No value of 291 can exist in one byte of computer memory.
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Searched DNS records for 291. Check.
Did a copy and paste and retried to be sure. Check.
The group no awareness that 291 is mathematically impossible. One byte of computer memory contains eight bits, and that provides a number range from 0 to 255. That is 256, 28 possibilities, including the zero. 111111112 = 255. Can't get no mo'.
Master computer hackers strutting their stuff. The whole lot of the incompetent computer illiterates demonstrated for all to see that they did not even know what numbers were valid in an IPA (Internet Protocol Address). These were the experts who were lecturing. Binary numbers befuddled them. The Keystone Kops of computer hacking.
http://the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=23395&Disp=219#C219 [dead link/site, The Nest, TPF, The Peoples Forum]
https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19712&Disp=486#C486
nolu chan posted on 2019-05-26 17:17:02 Reply Private Reply
#114: Tooconservative To: nolu chan, A K A Stone (#113)
Unfortunately, I just don't want to post at LF any more.
The Truthers, the Trump-haters, the cop-haters, the weirdos publishing their own promos for their crappy self-published wacko prophecy books (Barry Midyet), the bizarre cross-forum posts of fake-illiterates (Boris), and now the crowning achievement of LF free speech, the Flat Earthers, have so degraded the value of LF as a site worth posting to on a regular basis, that I have chosen to disregard LF as a forum that I want to post on.
So thanks for these posts. But I'll pass on doing much posting here at LF. Free speech shouldn't mean a forum wide-open for any kook that wanders in and wants to use LF as a platform for themselves at Stone's expense and regardless of how many people are driven away when wackos control the sidebar.
It would help IMO if Neil re-instituted the Biker Bar feature. While it was discontinued over at LP due to its tendency to bog down site response times when the database had grown to a certain size, that wouldn't be a problem at LF if some reasonable moderation was used. But paying attention to LF's content is the primary problem it has. You don't need a Biker Bar if you're willing to impose some hard and fast standards on the site as a whole. But that isn't going to happen either.
I've found other places to post. I suggest you do the same. The last thing you'll ever get at LF is a fair and meaty debate of the issues.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-06-07 09:05:55 Reply Private Reply
#115: nolu chan To: Tooconservative, A K A Stone (#114)
It has become a repository of wacko dingbat bullshit and fake news. Flat Earthers are supplemented by Bigfoot; marijuana is the universal cureall; cops brutalize or kill innocent man who dindu nuttin, for no reason at all; CPS kidnaps babies; and WW2 "lasted exactly 3½ years as prophesied," (1939-1945?); etc., etc., etc. It's embarrassing to be associated with.
Unfortunately, I just don't want to post at LF any more either.
I did not post at all from 3/5 until 5/23, and only sporadically since.
nolu chan posted on 2019-06-07 16:06:17 Reply Private Reply
#116: Tooconservative To: nolu chan (#115)
LOL. Stay well.
Maybe I'll post a little trollbait in the sidebar tonight. King Donald had a little victory tonight that he's tweeting about. It can't be any crazier than the usual batshit that gets posted on LF's sidebar.
Exactly so. My posting here dropped off sharply after I asked myself, "Would you ever invite anyone to post here at LF?". And you're right: it is too embarrassing to let anyone IRL know that I even read this forum.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-06-07 22:42:04 Reply Private Reply