NIXON: You know what happened to the Romans? The last six Roman emperors were fags. Neither in a public way. You know what happened to the popes? They were layin' the nuns; that's been goin' on for years, centuries. But the Catholic Church went to hell three or four centuries ago. It was homosexual, and it had to be cleaned out. That's what's happened to Britain. It happened earlier to France.

Let's look at the strong societies. The Russians. Goddamn, they root 'em out. They don't let 'em around at all. I don't know what they do with them. Look at this country. You think the Russians allow dope? Homosexuality, dope, immorality, are the enemies of strong societies. That's why the Communists and left-wingers are clinging to one another. They're trying to destroy us. I know Moynihan will disagree with this, [Attorney General John] Mitchell will, and Garment will. But, goddamn, we have to stand up to this.

EHRLICHMAN: It's fatal liberality.

NIXON: Huh?

EHRLICHMAN: It's fatal liberality. And with its use on television, it has such leverage.

Maybe the Log Cabin RINOs can move to Canada where snowflakes don't melt as fast?

Something happened between then and now to those Russians Nixon was so impressed with. They still "root 'em out", so evidently their harshness versus our laxness didn't save them.

They still "root 'em out",

Unlike the Bolshe-Sodomites who legalized the abomination of nature, again, in 1963.

Are you really one of Herbie Marcuse's Usefully demoralized Idiots?

No. I don't know who Herbie Marcuse is. From the b&w photo he looks like an obscure person who lived long ago and who has no bearing on my life.

I'm not at all demoralized about anything.

I'm not at all useful to any cause I oppose, and I'm particularly useful to the ones I support.

And I'm not an idiot.

So pretty much no on all accounts.

You answered my question with questions, which I answered completely. I therefore return to my original question and ask it again:

Do you REALLY care how people procure their orgasms?

And I'm not an idiot.

You're a psychotic, delusional, Idiot.

Meanwhile, Putin... in Reality Land:

"I thought about something just now:

The decision to nationalize this library was made by the first Soviet government, whose composition was 80-85 percent Jewish,"

Putin said June 13 during a visit to Moscow’s Jewish Museum and Tolerance Center.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pDtgWUtdUM

You're a psychotic, delusional, Idiot

None of those things is true.

Why do you care about how other people procure their orgasms?

Just like in Romans chapter 1.

Because moral relativism produces psychotic, delusional, idiots... like you!

So, to put what you said in plain language, you care about how people procure their orgasms because you're a moral absolutist.

No, because moral relativism produces psychotic, delusional, REPROBATELY MINDED, idiots... like you!

You clearly like to layer on the insults, but your answer to the question doesn't hold together all that well.

The question is: Why do you care how people procure their orgasms?

And your answer is that the reason you care is moral relativism, and the reason that you care about moral relativism is that it produces psychotic, delusional reprobately minded idiots.

So, putting it together, you apparently care about how people procure their orgasms because the way they procure their orgasms produces psychosis and idiocy.

At one point you cited Romans, so you're evidently basing moral absolutism - the opposite of moral relativism - on the Christian God.

The Christian God, in Scripture, clearly rejects all heterosexual sex outside of wedlock, and all masturbation that involves fantasies of anyone other than one's spouse, as immoral and wicked.

So, you think that masturbation and sex before marriage produces psychosis and idiocy. That's the ineluctable logic of what you have said.

How shall we stop all this masturbation, then? By law and punishment?

Or are you going to cut and run from the religious moorings to which you have lashed yourself - which call masturbation sexual immorality - and become a moral relativist yourself?

Are you one of those geniuses who wait until the Check Engine light comes on to check/change the oil - or do you RTFM?

No. I was a Navy pilot and a ship's officer. I take very good care of mechanical equipment.

What is that you are specifically proposing we should do, legally, about sexual immorality?

Criminalize all of that which is prohibited by the Christian God?

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What is it specifically that you are proposing we should do, legally, about sexual immorality, criminalize all of that which is prohibited by the Christian God?

Nobody disputes that STD's are a bad thing to catch

That would be the RTFM part.

People who don't RTFM: ESAD/FOAD!

Bonappetit!

That would be the RTFM part.

People who don't RTFM: ESAD/FOAD!

Bonappetit!

You don't have any proposal as far as law.

You simply know, along with the rest of us, that there are incurable STDs.

I'll tell you then what the law should be: pretty much what it is: consenting adults can do whatever they want sexually without legal repercussions. As adults, they need to be aware of the potential health implications of STDs, and protect themselves accordingly, but hetero- and homo- and auto-sexual activity between consenting adults is not illegal in our free nation.

That's the right standard, and it should not be changed.

You don't have any proposal as far as law.

Natural Law, Super Genius --  RTFM or DIE!

To Your Health

‘Our greatest fear’: Highly drug-resistant gonorrhea confirmed by health officials

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That's the right standard, and it should not be changed.

Says the Universal, Reprobately Minded, Idiot.

Natural Law doesn't give a shyte about what some shyster lawyer like you, the Supreme Court, or any other man-made created thing manages to pull out of its collective arse.

Would "Highly drug-resistant gonorrhea" be a problem if people had followed the moral health code articulated in scripture?

NO. It wouldn't.

Nobody disputes that STD's are a bad thing to catch.

But it's not illegal to give an STD to someone, is it - Mr. Universal Reprobate.

Maybe it should be.

With the death penalty for repeat offenders.

And maybe a nice cup of Socratic hemlock for any Shyster Lawyer who facilitates the corruption of Youth, too.

This is why American law and governance is a whole lot more like me and a whole lot less like you. No amount of raging distemper on your part can change that. In fact, when I'm placed alongside of you and we both talk, people realize that you're mean and crazy, and that while I clearly have religious ideas that are far from the mainstream, my general approach to people is reasonable, tolerant, peaceable and charitable.

Given the choice between me and my kind, and you and yours, the bulk of the people will choose me and mind, because they don't want to be oppressed and bullied, and you and yours are ready to put people to death for not following your cranky little belief system.

But hey, you do you, I'll do me, and you'll get more and more bitter as the years pass and things drift further and further away from you. I'll be just fine.

But it's not illegal to give an STD to someone, is it

Yes, it is. If you know you have an STD and you do not inform your sexual partner, and she gets it, you are liable for damages in all jurisdictions in America, and guilt of assault in many.

And maybe a nice cup of Socratic hemlock for any Shyster Lawyer who facilitates the corruption of Youth, too.

Who is facilitating the corruption of youth? Better not lapse into libel there. It is illegal to falsely accuse people of infamous crimes. I have not corrupted any youth since I WAS a youth corrupting myself, 40 years ago.

You can go down these crazy roads, but you had better bite your tongue before you start accusing me of specific crimes or I will silence you by legal force.

you had better bite your tongue before you start accusing me of specific crimes or I will silence you by legal force.

Who's accusing YOU?

LOL. Perhaps thou dost protest too much, Delusional, Universal, Anonymous, Idiot.

You can go down these crazy roads,

What the path to Vicomte-ville looks like:

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(1) When I was a boy, I dove off a dock into a shallow, rocky lake alone. I broke my neck and severed by spinal cord, and was completely paralyzed and drowning at the bottom of the like. I asked God "Please", and he healed me and allowed me to rise and walk away. I told no one until decades later.

(2) A very dead lizard was raised from the dead in my hand by God, when I asked him "Please".

(3) A dead mouse was raised from the dead in my hand by God, when I asked him "Please".

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Have a nice batshytecrazy day, Your Worshipfulness.

You'll find out it's true when you die.

NO SALE.

You mock things that are true: God healed my neck, and God raised two dead animals in my hands. He also flew the spirit into my face in the form of a bird to drive off a demon, spoke with me, pressed me into the black abyss and gave me a glimpse of one gate of the City, from below and afar. These things are so, which is why I know that God is.

Get a room with interpreter. If it kicks you out of bed, get a room with tater.

you’re raging at things you don’t comprehend.

I comprehend you're a delusional idiot with a reprobate mind -

Just like the self-worshiping technocrats described in Romans Chapter 1.

Jude 7

7 In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

NIV

Bon Appetit', Princess.

I don't know who Herbie Marcuse is

LOL. Mr. Naval Aviator doesn't know who the "Father of the New Left" was.... after Herbie helped instigate the Cold War from the arse/OSS/CIA of the swamp with his analysis of Soviet Economics.

Figures.

Who cares if he knows or doesn't know some obscure historical figure.

Marcuse's role in the demoralization of American Culture is particularly notable:

LOL. Mr. Naval Aviator doesn't know who the "Father of the New Left" was.... after Herbie helped instigate the Cold War from the arse/OSS/CIA of the swamp with his analysis of Soviet Economics.

Figures.

I was flying aircraft and driving ships during those years, and I've been doing paid work as a lawyer since then, and occasionally slumming on the Internet in place like this, not learning trivia.

You had a dream. Read the Bible to really know God. Or don't and remain willingly ignorant.

No, I didn't.

I've read the Bible cover to cover 8 times on account of those events, and delved deeply into specific passages in the original languages for the purpose of really understanding exactly what was meant.

I'm not remotely ignorant. Rather, I come to different conclusions than you do about what God wants based on my talking to him and reading the Bible.

And I don't attack anybody based on his religious beliefs, but I always defend myself. I know what I believe and why I believe it, and I promise you that insult is not effective in persuading me of anything.

I've read the Bible cover to cover 8 times on account of those events,

And yet you're still a reprobately minded Idiot - for whom "Do what thou wilt" is essentially the whole of the law.

FAIL.

I was flying aircraft and driving ships during those years,

A Military Industrial cash-cow goon who couldn't even manage his money.

A Military Industrial cash-cow goon who couldn't even manage his money.

I managed my money just fine. Being a victim of theft is not poor money management, it's bad luck.

Being a victim of theft

Stupid is as stupid does.

Who stole your money again, Captain Super Genius?

And yet you're still a reprobately minded Idiot - for whom "Do what thou wilt" is essentially the whole of the law.

FAIL.

Not even close. I am a self-disciplined person who stays inside of the moral law to the greatest extent that I am reasonably able.

The law I speak of is not the moral law, which I keep, it is the civil law - the question of what the law of the state, enforced by the guns of the police, should be.

That's a very different matter, because of people like you, who are ready to sentence people with STDs to death. Precisely because evil people like you are so hellbent on oppression, the enforced law and what the police are allowed to attack with drawn guns needs to be very severely limited - if you had your way we would live in a police state.

And that means TOLERATING things I don't personally do.

It's a mature and reasoned approach to a nettlesome issue. While you're out there obsessively learning trivia about obscure figures, others of us are thinking about practical reality.

And voters want pragmatism, not fever swamp ideology. That's why the laws and the policies of the country look and sound and feel a whole lot like me - a tolerant person with Christian ethics - than like you. It's why the laws always will.

See, I understand you and your ilk. You're out there on the spectrum, fascinated by unimportant things, without the capacity to get along with other people very well. And that's ok. We all have our crosses to bear.

But you are not capable of understanding someone like me. You see tolerance - meaning the unwillingness to let laws be enacted to govern personal behavior too much - as being the same thing as approval of immorality. You're literally not capable of distinguishing the difference because of your borderline autism.

So you attack somebody like me, who is tolerant, as a reprobate. What you fail to understand because you literally cannot understand it, due to your disorders, that the reason for my tolerance, and the tolerance of most of us good people in the society, is NOT because we are reprobates, but because we recognize that the police and courts and the other authorities often ARE reprobates in their own right - oppressive, domineering, intrusive - and we've made the mature decision to tolerate personal immorality in the society BECAUSE we don't want to have to tolerate being ruled over by Hessians.

You're never going to be able to get it, because of your disorder - that's what makes you post such distempered nonsense on an obscure website. And somebody like me has compassion for you, to the extent that we don't just unload on you and tear you apart every time you go on some sort of bile- spewing tear. We know you're an angry, lonely old man who doesn't relate well to others, and we TOLERATE you in all of your vituperative intolerance.

But in the end, we are tolerant not because we are reprobates, but because we don't want nutjobs like you controlling the laws and unleashing the police to oppress everybody over small beer morals crimes, "because it's the LAW". We know, from long experience, that there is a type of man who will do exactly that - and you're a shining example of it. So, to prevent that from happening, to prevent your ilk from ruling the roost, we roll back the law and tolerate more.

Do what you wilt is not the whole of the law. It's not even the point of the law.

It is, rather, "Stay within these really wide boundaries - and you cops, stay OUT of these boundaries.

My motivations are altogether different from what you accuse me of, which is why your unhinged lunatic charges and accusations never do anything. You're not really striking a blow for anything, you're like a deranged clown smearing shit all over himself in the street.

I'll bring you some lemonade and we can have a conversation if you'd like, but if you've gotta just scream and smear the shit, well, then, to quote a frequent poster on this site: "bon appetit".

Who stole your money again, Captain Super Genius?

Somebody emptied my accounts while I was off at war, the first time. The owner of the business for whom I worked the second time.

Stop with the "Captain Super Genius" shit. It's stupid.

who are ready to sentence people with STDs to death

Lying SOS as usual.

Repeat offenders who give STD's to others.

Who stole your money?

Stupid is as stupid does.

Being a victim of crime is being stupid? Yeah, there's a reason that we don't govern this country based on the ideas of people like you. And we never, ever will.

The owner of the business for whom I worked the second time.

You mean the caretaker of your Father, don't you?

Wasn't that your story - he got the mail?

Lying SOS as usual.

Repeat offenders who give STD's to others.

That is sentencing people to death for giving people STDs.

Not a lie. A direct quote.

Who stole your money?

Who are you to be questioning me?