The Department of Justice lost its latest battle with Congress Thursday when it allowed House Intelligence Committee members to view classified documents about a top-secret intelligence source that was part of the FBIs investigation of the Trump campaign. Even without official confirmation of that sources name, the news so far holds some stunning implications.
Among them is that the Justice Department and Federal Bureau of Investigation outright hid critical information from a congressional investigation. In a Thursday press conference, Speaker Paul Ryan bluntly noted that Intelligence Chairman Devin Nuness request for details on this secret source was wholly appropriate, completely within the scope of the committees long-running FBI investigation, and something that probably should have been answered a while ago. Translation: The department knew full well it should have turned this material over to congressional investigators last year, but instead deliberately concealed it.
House investigators nonetheless sniffed out a name, and Mr. Nunes in recent weeks issued a letter and a subpoena demanding more details. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosensteins response was to double downaccusing the House of extortion and delivering a speech in which he claimed that declining to open the FBIs files to review is a constitutional duty. Justice asked the White House to back its stonewall. And it even began spinning that daddy of all superspook argumentsthat revealing any detail about this particular asset could result in loss of human lives.
This is desperation, and it strongly suggests that whatever is in these files is going to prove very uncomfortable to the FBI.
The bureau already has some explaining to do. Thanks to the Washington Posts unnamed law-enforcement leakers, we know Mr. Nuness request deals with a top secret intelligence source of the FBI and CIA, who is a U.S. citizen and who was involved in the Russia collusion probe. When government agencies refer to sources, they mean people who appear to be average citizens but use their profession or contacts to spy for the agency. Ergo, we might take this to mean that the FBI secretly had a person on the payroll who used his or her non-FBI credentials to interact in some capacity with the Trump campaign.
This would amount to spying, and it is hugely disconcerting.
#1: sneakypete To: Tooconservative (#0)
Am I the only one that reads that statement as a threat to kill off their own informants in order to protect the Feeb brass and their political masters?
sneakypete posted on 2018-05-11 10:04:08 Reply Private Reply
#2: Tooconservative To: sneakypete (#1)
Of course, they could just be lying (again) to cover up for what they did. Spying on a future prez of the U.S. as a joint operation by FBI and CIA with some foreign national is a very serious matter.
And national security may be important but so is the confidence of the American people that their prez is not a paid Russian stooge. National security be damned, either demonstrate that Trump is a crook or drop all these investigations. Now! It appears they expect Mueller to investigate Trump for his full 8 years in office and beyond. It's intolerable.
Tooconservative posted on 2018-05-11 10:17:03 Reply Private Reply
#3: sneakypete To: Tooconservative (#2)
It's a strategic ploy to insure that Trump isn't re-elected so they can make sure they get another "business as usual" Dim or RINO in the WH in 2020.
They know they can only lose if anyone is allowed to focus on facts,so they spread innuendo.
sneakypete posted on 2018-05-11 10:58:57 Reply Private Reply
#4: Justified To: sneakypete, Tooconservative (#3)
Justified posted on 2018-05-11 12:27:24 Reply Private Reply
#5: nolu chan To: Tooconservative (#0)
Perhaps not so much an informant as a special infiltrator.
Carter Page could have been an FBI and/or Intelligence asset who passed through Russia to create a legend, and later sought to attach himself to the Trump campaign. Once he infiltrated the campaign HQ at Trump Tower, his mission could have been to make innocent contact with the campaign leadership. Then the FBI and/or intelligence agency could open an investigation into the alleged Russian connection of their own asset, using this manufactured garbage to obtain a FISA warrant to spy on everyone within two skips of their asset Carter Page, i.e., virtually the whole Trump campaign leadership.
Of course, this would involve admission of numerous felonies at the FISA court if it were confirmed that Page was known not to be a Russian agent, but rather well known to be an FBI/Intelligence asset, acting as an their agent in infiltrating Trump Tower.
Below is an interesting tidbit from 2017 where Page was stretching credulity about his campaign involvement. Page did not need much actual campaign involvement. He could have sat in a coffee shop in Trump Tower and emailed, messaged, or called a few select people. A two skip FISA warrant would take care of the rest.
http://www.businessinsider.com/carter-page-trump-campaign-headquarters-2017-3
nolu chan posted on 2018-05-11 13:46:30 Reply Private Reply
#6: Tooconservative To: nolu chan (#5)
Maybe it's Nigel Farage. Or Julian Assange. LOL
Perhaps we have a spy working as an aide to Putin or the 8 other tycoons who actually run Russia.
Tooconservative posted on 2018-05-11 14:54:36 Reply Private Reply
#7: nolu chan To: Tooconservative (#6)
The Kimberly Strassel/WSJ article indicated the Nunes request pertains to a U.S. citizen involved in the Russia collusion investigation. It may be an intelligence source who worked, or is working, in a foreign country.
See also, Conservative Treehouse, article by sundance, speculating on the source being Stefan Halper.
nolu chan posted on 2018-05-11 15:32:52 Reply Private Reply
#8: Tooconservative To: nolu chan (#7)
Stassel is hinting that she knows or suspects. Which means she is actually fishing for someone to confirm it. Like someone with access to Nunes and the info from that recent briefing.
She might as well put up a sign: "Leaks wanted. Call Kimberly at WSJ."
It's not a bad bet for her. Someone in the Beltway is always ready to leak, if for no other reason than to get some revenge on the Other Guys for leaking something else.
Tooconservative posted on 2018-05-11 23:17:25 Reply Private Reply
#9: nolu chan To: Tooconservative (#8)
I directly quoted Sundance at The Conservative Treehouse without expressing an opinion of my own.
I would still lean toward Carter Page being the cited source inside the Trump campaign. As far as I know, Stefan Halper was never a member of the Trump campaign, and was not a source inside the campaign.
I have not seen sufficient information to call it for Page.
nolu chan posted on 2018-05-14 14:59:29 Reply Private Reply