BRICK, N.J. - Authorities say a New Jersey couple exploited a computer glitch on a home improvement chain's website to get thousands of dollars' worth of items shipped to their home for free.
Ocean County prosecutors say 40-year-old Kimy Velazquez and his 24-year-old wife, Romela Velazquez, stole enough items from Lowe's to fill an 18-foot trailer. The items ranged from a gazebo to $2,500 worth of underwear.
Authorities declined to provide details on the computer glitch.
Authorities say the Brick residents tried to get about $258,068 worth of unpaid merchandise overall but received only about $13,000 in merchandise. They say the couple sold the items on Facebook for less than half the original price.
It wasn't known Tuesday if they've retained attorneys. A phone number couldn't be found for them.
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Hey, what's the issue here. It is up to companies to fix these glitches. I could see Lowe's canceling an order made due to a glitch. But it is not stealing IMHO if they honor the order and ship the merchandise. Same with cheat air tickets and other things we read about. Fix the glitch, cancel any unfulfilled orders, and leave these people alone or charge them, but do not expect a conviction from a jury of peers.
How is this a crime if they did not hack the website? This was Lowe's fault for letting it happen.
#1: misterwhite To: Deckard (#0)
No problem. Lowe's should send them a letter apologizing for a computer glitch causing a delay in their billing, and attach an invoice for $13,000.
misterwhite posted on 2017-08-16 11:38:27 Reply Private Reply
#2: Tooconservative To: Deckard, misterwhite (#0)
This is a story where we need a much better followup with some real reporting before we can have any confidence that we know anything more solid than that they have been arrested and arraigned.
So if you are that interested, maybe you should find a better article about the alleged theft.
And a cursory DDG search reveals a much better article from FoxNews.
Couple exploited Lowe's website glitch to steal, resell items, authorities say
A New Jersey couple was arrested after allegedly exploiting a glitch in the website for Lowes home improvement stores to steal and then resell online more than $250,000 worth of items, authorities said.Kimy Velazquez, 40, and Romela Velazquez, 24, of Brick Township, were charged Tuesday with theft, fraud and computer criminal activity. Law enforcement officials alleged that they exploited a gap in the stores website that enabled them to have merchandise shipped to their home without making payment. Investigators who executed a search warrant on their home earlier this month said authorities recovered enough stolen merchandise to fill an 18-foot trailer.
Detectives on scene stated the residence resembled more of a warehouse than a home, reads a statement released by the Ocean County Prosecutors Office.
Some of the bigger ticket items many of which were still in the box -- recovered by police included:
The prosecutor alleges that Romela Velazquez exploited weaknesses in the Lowes website in order to have merchandise shipped to the home, then allegedly posted several of the stolen merchandise items to a local Facebook group Buy and Sell page, often listing the items as New in Box and for less than half their regular retail price.
Romela Velazquez has been charged with computer criminal activity for accessing a computer system with the purpose to defraud, second degree theft by deception for attempting to obtain merchandise totaling approximately $258,068.01 (pre-tax) and third degree theft by deception for receipt of merchandise without payment.
Kimy Velazquez was charged with receipt of stolen property and fencing. He was released on a summons pending a future court date while Romela Velazquez was taken into custody pending a future court date.
Investigators are checking whether the couple replicated the alleged plan via other retailers' websites, which may result in additional charges.
A lot of states do have laws covering this type of fraud.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-08-16 12:56:40 Reply Private Reply
#3: A K A Stone To: Tooconservative (#2)
A K A Stone posted on 2017-08-16 16:30:37 Reply Private Reply
#4: Deckard To: A K A Stone (#3)
I wish I looked that good - I have less hair.
A guy could do worse than her, she's kinda cute.
Deckard posted on 2017-08-16 17:41:45 Reply Private Reply
#5: nolu chan To: Tooconservative, Deckard, misterwhite, A K A Stone (#2)
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In the case of a seller mistake, as here, where someone finds a way to obtain shipment without payment, and exploits that mistake, there is no valid contract between seller and buyer.
The crime is larceny.
Wayne R. LaFave, Criminal Law, 4th ed., pg. 930
nolu chan posted on 2017-08-16 17:58:35 Reply Private Reply
#6: Hondo68 To: nolu chan, Lowes confessed to commiting mistaken delivery, book em Danno (#5)
There was no "mistaken delivery", they were delivered to the party that Lowe's shipped them to.
Now Lowe's admits that they're guilty of initiating mistaken delivery. The cops arrested the victims, instead of the perps. They have Lowe's confession, now book 'em Danno!
Hondo68 posted on 2017-08-16 19:23:40 Reply Private Reply
#7: Tooconservative To: nolu chan (#5)
The crime is what New Jersey law says it is.
There was no "mistaken delivery" here. The intent was clear to take delivery via deception without paying for the merchandise received. And the crime was repeated many times, further establishing their guilt.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-08-17 01:32:39 Reply Private Reply
#8: nolu chan To: Tooconservative, hondo68 (#7)
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The mistake was caused by some unexplained computer glitch that the couple exploited. They knew about it and there was no valid purchase or sale. There was a series of deliveries without payment. Lowe's made a mistaken delivery based on the mistaken belief that there had been a purchase and a payment.
The couple will be convicted. They will likely plead guilty because there will be a nice, undeniable data trail documenting whatever it was that they did.
The Uniform Commercial Code works in New Jersey and elsewhere.
http://law.justia.com/codes/new-jersey/2013/title-12a/section-12a-1-304/
The couple did not act in good faith.
http://law.justia.com/codes/new-jersey/2013/title-12a/section-12a-2-301/
Aw shit, the buyer didn't pay. He unlawfully caused shipment, and accepted delivery, and now he has been arrested. That is positively shocking.
Commercial law has developed for centuries or millenia. A computer glitch, exploited by a theiving customer, will not evade the law.
The bad guy never obtained title to any of the property he did not pay for, but turned around and sold at a bargain price. He kept what did not belong to him, and then he sold what did not belong to him.
A contract consists of an offer, acceptance, consideration, and a lawful purpose. No consideration passed from the buyer to the seller. There was no valid contract for the selling and purchasing of the goods.
Claiming a lack of contract does not help the buyer. If you exercise unlawful control over somebody else's property, with intent to deprive him of it, that is theft. That's where the criminal law comes in.
http://law.justia.com/codes/new-jersey/2013/title-2c/section-2c-20-3/
nolu chan posted on 2017-08-17 02:35:50 Reply Private Reply
#9: Tooconservative To: nolu chan (#8)
You got that right. Sounds like it is the conniving bitch who really schemed this up, dragging down some poor horny white guy with her con job. : )
I'd add "the buyer repeatedly didn't pay, repeatedly caused shipment, repeatedly accepted delivery".
That's where the prison time will come from. Not just doing it once or a couple of times but going whole hog for high-dollar items.
And evidence that this was fraud for profit? They set up their own little online auction site via Facebook ads.
There is no defense attorney good enough to get you off on this kind of behavior. The best they can do is plead down. If they can find a family member or friend to pay off the merchant, maybe they could get off. Barring that, there'll be at least a few years in prison.
Some states are very very strict about certain financial crimes. I know in my state, I traveled about 300 miles some years back and saw a car I liked. I started buying it and was surprised that they not only took a check but didn't even request a photo ID. They told me that the state was so strict about fraudulent checks that they didn't worry about it and neither did any of the other local car dealers.
It is true that people still bounce some checks. But outright check fraud in many states is quite rare other than some small transient criminal element.
Taking a strict line against financial fraud does a lot to keep a state's finances in order. It's good business for everyone. We rely on a commons, on making square and voluntary deals. And the commercial and criminal code reflect this.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-08-17 03:00:05 Reply Private Reply
#10: misterwhite To: nolu chan (#5)
The same is true for things like this:
misterwhite posted on 2017-08-17 09:59:07 Reply Private Reply
#11: misterwhite To: Tooconservative (#7)
And they failed to recognize their guilt. They made two errors. They are flawed and imperfect and have not corrected that by sterilization. They made three errors.
They need to execute their prime function.
misterwhite posted on 2017-08-17 11:22:40 Reply Private Reply
#12: Tooconservative To: misterwhite (#11)
You know how much I crave that closure. LOL
Tooconservative posted on 2017-08-17 14:03:25 Reply Private Reply
#13: misterwhite To: Tooconservative (#12)
Repay Lowes. 100 hours community service (each). 2 years probation.
We'll see how close I am.
misterwhite posted on 2017-08-17 14:29:22 Reply Private Reply
#14: Tooconservative To: misterwhite (#13)
The male gets less than a year, possibly just fines and community service. Still, he did operate as a fence so I may be softpedalling his crime.
Some of it will depend on how much pressure Lowes and other businesses are putting on the prosecutor.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-08-17 16:45:19 Reply Private Reply
#15: misterwhite To: Tooconservative (#14)
Maybe in 1960. Not today.
misterwhite posted on 2017-08-17 16:50:20 Reply Private Reply
#16: Tooconservative To: misterwhite (#15)
Tooconservative posted on 2017-08-17 16:52:38 Reply Private Reply
#17: misterwhite To: Tooconservative (#16)
We can't! Leslie Nielsen is counting on us to remember.
misterwhite posted on 2017-08-17 17:21:17 Reply Private Reply
#18: Tooconservative To: misterwhite (#17)
And his comedy roles are the only things anyone remembers now. Nielson's success inspired a ton of old has-been actors to try to come out of retirement and cash in but none of them had his success.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-08-17 17:24:46 Reply Private Reply
#19: misterwhite To: Tooconservative (#18)
A classic. One of my favorites.
misterwhite posted on 2017-08-17 17:38:02 Reply Private Reply
#20: Tooconservative To: misterwhite (#19)
He did get some hooch out of Robbie the Robot who went on to lesser roles like battling Robot in Lost In Space. Dr. Smith and Robot were the stars of that show. Check out Robbie's very long and funny list of other TV shows he appeared in. Robbie even did a Charmin commercial with Mr. Whipple and, yes, he did say, "Don't squeeze Charmin".
Forbidden Planet has a lot of plot elements similar to Shakespeare's The Tempest.
Tooconservative posted on 2017-08-17 17:46:27 Reply Private Reply
#21: misterwhite To: Tooconservative (#20)
Amazing how Hollywood managed to make a popular movie from Shakespeare. But that was 1956 when Hollywood writers had actual talent and were able to turn an island into a planet, a sailing ship into a spaceship, and a sprite into a robot.
Speaking of Shakespeare, I'd recommend Much Ado About Nothing, the 1993 movie with Kenneth Branagh, Emma Thompson, Keanu Reeves, Kate Beckinsale, Denzel Washington and Michael Keaton.
The cast, music, costumes, and acting are all superb.
misterwhite posted on 2017-08-17 18:21:45 Reply Private Reply