[Waterbury Conn.] Police Chief Vernon L. Riddick Jr. brought a message of cooperation with police to a mostly African-American crowd of more than 200 people at Mount Olive A.M.E. Zion Church on Wednesday night.
If an officer stops your car, if they ask to search your person or vehicle, if they demand entry into your home, comply and then complain later to the departments internal affairs office and police chiefs office if you feel your rights have been violated, Riddick said.
I understand the argument that you shouldnt mouth off to cops. I get the argument that you shouldnt needlessly provoke them. I certainly agree that you shouldnt physically resist them. It could get you killed.
But this is a police chief who, in a town hall meeting spurred by a rash of shootings both by and of police officers, is asking that citizens submit without question if an officer requests to search a vehicle, home or person. In the interest of cooperation, hes asking a black audience to give up their Fourth Amendment rights.
We empower the police to protect our rights. Much of the time, that involves protecting us from others who would do us harm. But it also means respecting our rights and refraining from violating them. The Fourth Amendment gives us the right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures. The intent behind the amendment was to protect us from the indignity and violation of our privacy when were subjected to a search thats based on little more than a hunch the intent was not to protect our right to later complain to internal affairs.
I realize things are tense right now. We should certainly respect and be aware of that when interacting with law enforcement officers. But to verbally refuse a request to search is an exercise of ones rights. It isnt a provocation. That Riddick and other police officials seem to see it as the latter is telling and a big problem.
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Poster comment : He's not just asking blacks to give up their rights - look at the crowd.

#1: jeremiad To: Deckard (#0)
jeremiad posted on 2016-07-20 10:32:18 Reply Private Reply
#2: Pinguinite To: Deckard (#0)
If you comply, then you can't complain later that your rights have been violated, because you complied.
Pinguinite posted on 2016-07-20 10:37:31 Reply Private Reply
#3: TrappedInMd To: Deckard (#0)
If asked you deny them permission.(and best to record the conversation)
If they still force their way in not a good idea to try to physically stop them, unless you want to die or be hurt badly.
Over at FR are always nutbags who will post that they would stop police.
TrappedInMd posted on 2016-07-20 11:00:09 Reply Private Reply
#4: misterwhite To: jeremiad (#1)
Search or pat down?
"Once a law enforcement officer has lawfully stopped a person, the officer may conduct a patdown for firearms or other dangerous weapons when the officer reasonably suspects that his or her personal safety requires it. Consent is not a necessary prerequisite to an officer-safety patdown for weapons."
misterwhite posted on 2016-07-20 12:04:52 Reply Private Reply
#5: jeremiad To: misterwhite (#4)
jeremiad posted on 2016-07-21 01:44:25 Reply Private Reply
#6: misterwhite To: jeremiad (#5)
Set up that straw man and knock him down. I never said "everyone".
The courts have ruled that the officer may conduct a patdown for firearms or other dangerous weapons when the officer reasonably suspects that his or her personal safety requires it.
You're saying that shouldn't be allowed?
misterwhite posted on 2016-07-21 09:07:50 Reply Private Reply
#7: jeremiad To: misterwhite (#6)
jeremiad posted on 2016-07-21 11:11:01 Reply Private Reply
#8: misterwhite To: jeremiad (#7)
That's up to the jury.
misterwhite posted on 2016-07-21 11:16:15 Reply Private Reply