The Sun came up on schedule this morning...

VxH is right: the sun will rise tomorrow.

No-one likes to be defeated. It is what we learn from our defeats that allows us to improve.

If the Republicans are losing, it is because of the fundamental weakness in the real world of their ideas. We can feel sad that our way was ultimately a loser, and we will feel bad about that for awhile.

But the sun will come up on us again and, if we are wise, we will learn from our defeats.

As for Trump we really do not know what we are going to get. Will he actually do something about illegal aliens? Will he make for a friendly business climate? Can he do something about one sided free Trade? Can he deal with Terrorism without boots on the ground?

No, No, No and No.

He just promised those things to win the primary and that's all that counts.

We are screwed

No-one likes to be defeated. It is what we learn from our defeats that allows us to improve.

If the Republicans are losing, it is because of the fundamental weakness in the real world of their ideas. We can feel sad that our way was ultimately a loser, and we will feel bad about that for awhile.

Don't expect that the Trump cultists will admit defeat.

If Trump loses they will claim that he only lost thru fraud, maybe that the Mexicans like Judge Curry voted (illegally as he is illegally here) , and that Trump really won. So Hillary is ineligible (even if sworn in) and Trump is really POTUS and they were proved right.

Expect Trump to hold another tele-conf giving them new orders on what to say. BREAKING: On Secret Call, Trump Orders Surrogates to Intensify Attacks & Smears of Trump U Judge (Posted at 4:50 pm on June 6, 2016) -

If Trump loses they will claim

Strawman

Don't expect that the Trump cultists will admit defeat.

I don't. Nor do I expect Republicans to admit defeat. Nor Democrats, when the time comes for the wheel to turn.

Defeat has to be disastrous - Atlanta burnt, Dresden flatted, Hiroshima nuked, the army captured, etc., for people to finally acknowledge to themselves that they ARE defeated, and to submit to their conquerors and change in order to preserve their lives.

Short of complete and utter defeat, people will still fight on.

The Confederate Flag's persistence for 150 years - three generations after the Civil War - is an example of this. But the sudden reversal and removal of the symbol everywhere in the 151st year, in the fifth generation, is the indicator that there is no substantial number of people still willing to fight for that lost cause.

Things in this life change very slowly, but that do change. People who really were quite racist 50 years ago no longer are, for example. Attitudes are not set in stone. A lot fewer people smoke than back then. Things do change.

Yep the sun will set tonite and come up tomorrow as usual.

Another year or two of these shits in government and I will have wasted 25 years of my life. I just can not tell you how hard I have worked to get to this point. To see it all be for nothing is just depressing. Regulations on small business is crushing and progressive shits want more?

It is what we learn from our defeats that allows us to improve.

I have been saying that since I was in my early 20's and it has not worked at all! LOL All that happens is shitty people get the spoils while the honest hard working people get the shaft.

Im not the only one because there have to 10's of millions of Americans already given up and probably that many ready to give up.

Life just sucks and no relief in sight. I guess for right now all I can do is hope Trump wins and does just a 10th of what he says because Hillary will be the end of my career and I will be on welfare! I guess I have earned the right to set on my ass and screw the neighbors wife or daughter!

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Another year or two of these shits in government and I will have wasted 25 years of my life. I just can not tell you how hard I have worked to get to this point. To see it all be for nothing is just depressing. Regulations on small business is crushing and progressive shits want more?

How so? Do you own a small business?

I would like to say we are pretty much screwed. Hillary is a no go for me. ... As for Trump we really do not know what we are going to get.

With Hillary you know you're screwed. With Trump you don't know.

Hope for a miracle. The economy will need one. Obamacare will economically collapse. Social Security payments will be cut and/or eligibility will be delayed to an older age. The peasants will march with their pitchforks. And that is hoping there is not a depression and dollar collapse. Imagine EBT cards ceasing to work. The debt has been multiplied by 20 since 1980. It doubled in the last 8 years. It can't continue without consequences.

I don't see any easy solution. Maybe Trump does. Or not.

Yes I own a small business and government regulation is killing the little guy. Every year we are forced to learn a bunch of new regulations for our field and it only gets worse every year. You can't charge very much for these regulations because at least 20% of the contractors just ignore them and work with out licenses of any type. Its cheaper to get caught and fined than to be "legal". The only people kicking butt are big big business that have a group for every task. They higher illegal aliens subs. Do lesser job than the small business and charge twice as much. Someone must pay for the over head!

I'd almost feel sorry for the public but they really get what they deserve.

I have no other choice but to vote for Trump.

Third party will only get Hillary elected and if the GOP try to oust Trump and put in someone else Hillary will win again.

The technical name is WBF. For those that do not speak technical language its called "We be fucked".

Bush had the economy back on its feet. Not great but a start after decades of abuse by the progressives. All Obama had to do is not rock the boat! Nope he went full bore and its all falling apart and the MSM is protecting him. Its kinda scary if you keep up with financials.

I own a small business and government regulation is killing the little guy. Every year we are forced to learn a bunch of new regulations for our field and it only gets worse every year.

Just out of curiosity, what type of business do you operate?

What type of regulations must you "learn" every year?

Just out of curiosity, what type of business do you operate?

What type of regulations must you "learn" every year?

I will not say.

I like to come here and vent because I get too see way to much. In business the only color one worries about is Green. ;)

Well, yeah. Illegal aliens can make a good life for themselves here. A very good life. I'm not saying they are bad people. They just know the system and know how how to game it. Hispanics (yes, hispanics) are hired by other other Hispanics working for American contractors. These jobs would seem easy to get, but they are not. There is a large degree of mistrust in letting anyone in on the system. You have to be on the inside to get a job, even if you are hispanic.

I will not say.

Hopefully you aren't a cake maker... and if so, I've heard of 50 people that won't ask you to bake a gay wedding cake.

lol

Hopefully you aren't a cake maker... and if so, I've heard of 50 people that won't ask you to bake a gay wedding cake.

Im sure with the climate now it would be pure suicide to refuse!