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THE STORY OF 9/11 IS A STORY ABOUT SAUDIS IN FLORIDA

Source:	Mad Cow News
Published:	Apr 28, 2016
Author:	Daniel Hopsicker
Post Date:	2016-05-22 02:20:17 by Deckard
Views:	2991

WE GET LETTERS

“But isn’t all of this Outside job stuff just going to benefit the Neo Cons? GlobalCorp?” someone emailed. “Did the Saudis put the (alleged) Hijackers in Rudy's flight school? Give them Govt Credit cards? Schedule identical Drills the morning of 911? Tell Cheney to run the stand down? Operate the cover up? I don’t see anything coming from this. Shot over the bow of the kingdom by Economic hitmen…”

My website’s down till later this week. Was hacked in January, so I’m switching hosts. Things happen. I’m not blaming the Illuminati.

I’ll give this a shot. A last shot, hopefully. Otherwise I’m bored with it. Anyone who’s seen as much obvious disinformation being parroted back at them as holy writ by people whose reasoning facility is on a par with that of George W. Bush–if that–probably feels the same.

What I saw in Florida: The Saudis were running it. They were everywhere. Tell me: who's got more money to pay bribes than Saudis? No one. Who’s taking bribes in America? Everyone. Everyone whose name you already know, and everyone whose name you don’t. It’s a corrupt country. Deal with it. It’s Rome in 200 AD.

Islamic fundamentalist or lieutenant in an Arab drug cartel?

In 1999, there were a handful of Arab flight students in SW Florida. In 2001 there were thousands. At a big AFB base in the Panhandle, a trainer told me, "It used to be Iranians. Now its all Saudis."

Were they there by themselves? Hell no. Did the CIA know? Hell yes. I asked an old hand, in a highly irate tone of voice, how could the CIA not have known blah-di-blah blah. His answer was mild. Why, I’m sure that they did know. He said, “It would have been impossible for them not to.”

Venice and the surrounding region was teeming with spooks. The Sheriff in nearby Charlotte County—where Atta lived for a time, though you won’t find that in the 9/11 Commission Report—told me that, because of the 40-year history of covert activity that he had seen been run through Charlotte County, which he and everyone else in the Charlotte County Sheriff’s Department had been powerless to stop, he believed the CIA was responsible for 9/11.

Was one of the bigger shocks of my life. A Southern cracker Sheriff telling me he thought the CIA was responsible for 9/11. And hey. Maybe he’s right. But I couldn’t go there. I might believe that. But I never had proof.

Despite that, I heard a lot, saw a lot, and learned a lot in Florida. For 18 month Venice Florida was the home base of the terrorist hijackers. It was the biggest 9/11 crime scene that wasn’t reduced to rubble. And I uncovered more evidence about the terrorist conspiracy's activities there than anyone, more than every other reporter in America… combined.

Because there were no reporters or investigators or researchers in Venice. Except me.

I drove 1000 miles in the dead of winter in a 15-year old car with a faulty heater to find and interview Mohamed Atta’s girlfriend. Nobody else knew he’d even had one. Except three tiny local newspapers in SW Florida. I posted the entire interview.

43 lbs. of heroin is known in the trade as “heavy weight”

I discovered the most important secret that’s come out so far about the 9/11 attack. The owner of the flight school that trained Mohamed Atta had his Learjet busted just three weeks after Atta arrived, carrying 43 lbs. of heroin.

Because of this, in 50 or 100 years, or maybe a thousand, depending on when the truth finally comes out, someone will be grateful that I did. That makes me feel good. I was, at least, useful.

One of the reasons being put forward to release the 28 pages involves testimony from Z. Moussaoui. In Welcome to TerrorLand there’s testimony from a cabbie who picked up Moussaoui in Venice, where no one else reports that he was. He's been visiting some of the boys at an apartment in Venice. The cabdriver (there’s only two in Venice) had been to that address a dozen times, taking Arab men to the airport in Orlando.

The cabdrivers asked to help carry luggage to the cab. He says okay. Its a trunk, and it weighs almost more than two people can carry. That’s all he knew. Later I asked an ex-NSA agent what could weigh that much. He answered without even pausing to think: “Gold.”

Saudis in San Diego…and Florida

In a brief one-week trip to Southern California, I uncovered and exclusively reported evidence—with resources an assistant manager at McDonald’s would sneer at—about the man the Chairman of the Joint Congressional Intelligence Committee investigation into 9/11 called “the “best chance to uncover the Sept. 11 plot before it happened.”

The New York Times said, “Of all the people who had contact with the 19 men, perhaps no one found himself closer than Dr. Shaikh, 65, a gregarious retired educator who has lived for years in this working class suburb of San Diego.”

The paper reported, “Dr. Shaikh was quite proud of his positions of civic responsibility, particularly on a citizens review board at the police department.”

History Commons says: “Despite much scrutiny after 9/11, little information will emerge on Shaikh’s background or why he came to the FBI’s notice.”

Abdussattar Shaikh was identified in wire reports as “a retired professor of English at San Diego State,” and “Vice President for International Projects at American Commonwealth University.”

I discovered he was nothing of the kind. Every single detail in his biography was a lie:

He never taught at San Diego State; He has never been a Professor of English… anywhere; He has a phony PhD purchased from a bogus diploma mill run by people with U.S. military and intelligence connections; The “University” where he was supposed to be “Vice President or International Projects” does not, in fact, exist.

Oh, and Abdussattar Shaikh is not his real name. (His real name is “Abdussattar Chhipa.”)

So when someone sneeringly asks me a question about something or other concerning 9/11 containing the insinuation that he or she (almost always he) has divined the truth with a superior ability to avoid being a sucker that is otherwise nowhere in evidence–with gaps in logic big enough to fly a 767 through without leaving marks– my response is, really, no response.

The Pentagon has a 1600-man battalion that does nothing but psyops. And H.L. Mencken said: “No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”

You can see the problem.

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#1: Gatlin To: Deckard (#0)

You can see the problem.

You can’t see that Daniel Hopsicker is a “government mole” and the “Messiah of Government 911 truth damage control.”

Hopsicker's role in Government 911 truth damage control is to appear as if he's a staunch Government/CIA critic. It's hard to attack a guy for being in league with the Devil when he's one of the most extreme critics of the Devil, right? And if Hopsicker had simply kept his mouth shut about the rest of the 911 truth movement we'd never know he was a mole. So why is Hopsicker going out of his way to mock the rest of the 911 truth movement? If he'd just kept his mouth shut and avoided attacking the rest of the 911 truth movement -- a movement which gravely concerns those responsible -- then Hopsicker's credibility would be virtually unassailable.
But Hopsicker could not keep his mouth shut because it's his purpose in this grand game to use his long planned "911 truth credibility" as a bastion of destruction for the "other 911 truth movement which is not sanctioned by the Government.

It surprises me that you posted an article by Hopsicker but thanks for doing so.

Gatlin posted on 2016-05-22 04:01:07 Reply Private Reply

#2: Gatlin To: Deckard (#0)

Hopsicker and Ruppert Co-Opting the 9-11 Truth Movement -

[…]
As if to perpetuate the myth of a bona fide "war on terror", Hopsicker also repeatedly makes reference to "the terrorists", apparently taking as gospel the government - spun lie that "Arab terrorists" actually exist as an organised group dedicated to destroying everything American. Again, readers should watch the BBC-aired documentary "The Power of Nightmares" for evidence of this. It is hard to believe that a seasoned supersleuth like Hopsicker is not aware of the vast amount of evidence to suggest that the entire concept of an organised worldwide terrorist network is completely bogus.
Hopsicker is also insistent that the "no plane at the Pentagon" crowd are disinfo artists. Thankfully however, and as if to save us wasting any more time, Hopsicker graciously gives his CoIntelPro position away completely by claiming that anyone caught promoting the idea that the 9-11 airplanes could have been flown by remote control are obviously disinfo artists. Which, if Hopsicker is correct, means that Boeing must also be part of the 9-11 truth movement.
[…]

Gatlin posted on 2016-05-22 04:20:46 Reply Private Reply

#3: Operation 40 To: Gatlin (#1)

This from a guy that believes his government when they tell him that a plant used for 10,000 years as medicine is "dangerous".

You're a laugh riot, Gatlin. But you knew that. What brought you back? I'm absolutely sure that I'm not the only one that is delighted to see you again.

Operation 40 posted on 2016-05-22 09:31:10 Reply Private Reply

#4: Logsplitter To: Deckard (#0)

Wired the towers for demolition.

Logsplitter posted on 2016-05-22 12:15:56 Reply Private Reply

#5: GrandIsland To: Operation 40 (#3)

This from a guy that believes his government when they tell him that a plant used for 10,000 years as medicine is "dangerous

Move to Colorado or stfu. States have a legal right to regulate or ban drugs. Marijuana is classified as a drug.

If you require an anything goes turd fest in life, then go buy an island in the middle of the ocean and you can have your own little world filled with fag bathrooms, meth vending machines and lazy high hippies playing xbox daily. You can even invite Ron Paultard to be mayor... and finally he might be able to get a law passed.

GrandIsland posted on 2016-05-22 14:36:40 Reply Private Reply

#6: Gatlin To: Operation 40 (#3)

This from a guy that believes his government when they tell him that a plant used for 10,000 years as medicine is "dangerous".

I believe little to nothing the government says. I do however believe Ktistine Kirk’s three sons, Ethan, Alden and Andrew when they say that a plant used for 10,000 years as medicine is “DANGEROUS.” Their father high on marijuana edibles shot their mom. I would say that was “dangerous” and I feel certain that you will agree.

Their mother-of-three was shot dead by her husband who police believe had consumed cannabis in Colorado, the first US state where the drug can be bought legally for recreational use.
Kristine Kirk, 44, telephoned 911 and told the dispatcher her husband Richard Kirk, 47, was hallucinating, talking about “the end of the world”, and scaring their young children after eating an edible form of the drug.
Colorado became the first state to legalise cannabis, making it available in shops, on Jan 1. The murder would be the first killing linked to cannabis since then. Kirk worked as a designer for a tiling company and lived in a detached home in Denver’s affluent Observatory Park neighbourhood.
Friends described him as a dedicated family man and a photograph he posted on the internet in February showed him playing ice hockey with his three children, and the caption “Happy Valentines Day to the loves of my life”.

It is said that for the boys, the loss is immeasurable. They were extremely close to their Mom. She was their biggest fan whether at school, home or on the sports field. She was their 'go-to' person for everything. And they were her greatest pride and accomplishment in life. Her close bond with them was something to envy and that can never be replaced.

What brought you back?

Stone relayed a personal message and asked me to return.

I don't give a rat’s ass whether you are delighted to see me here again or not.

Your satisfaction or dissatisfaction about my return is of absolutely no concern to me.

Gatlin posted on 2016-05-22 16:12:28 Reply Private Reply

#7: Deckard To: Gatlin, Operation 40 (#6)

I believe little to nothing the government says.

Thanks for the laugh.

BTW - here are a few more facts for you to chew on :

While much of the evidence supports the idea that Kirk’s thinking was impaired, none mention a potential link between impairment and violence. If anything, the doctor’s testimony points in the other direction, painting a picture of those suffering from acute psychotic episodes as near lifeless and hardly moving. “You can feel like you’re dying,” a representative from a cannabis potency testing lab says of over-consuming.

After noting that edibles have a “ton more THC,” the owner of Colorado’s largest medical marijuana dispensary notes that while over consuming is “very unpleasant,” it doesn’t cause violence.

“If you eat too much marijuana, you have hot flashes and cold flashes and then you get under the covers and pass out,” said Steve Horwitz of Ganja Gourmet. “You don’t start waving a gun around.”

Science has proven that THC can induce an acute psychosis, it has not drawn a link between this psychosis and violence. On the contrary, studies about the drug’s likelihood of causing harm to others show that those using it are more likely to be nonviolent.

One of the earliest comprehensive looks at the link between cannabis and psychosis came in 2007 with systematic review of 35 studies by Dr. Theresa HM Moore. Published in The Lancet, the study concluded that cannabis could increase the risk of psychotic episodes, especially in those predisposed to mental illness, but that researchers had yet to determine why.

Deckard posted on 2016-05-22 16:32:20 Reply Private Reply

#8: Gatlin To: Operation 40 (#3)

[Marijuana is] a plant used for 10,000 years as medicine.

How long has marijuana been used as medicine?

Gatlin posted on 2016-05-22 16:52:07 Reply Private Reply

#9: Gatlin To: Deckard (#7)

“If you eat too much marijuana, you have hot flashes and cold flashes and then you get under the covers and pass out,” said Steve Horwitz of Ganja Gourmet. “You don’t start waving a gun around.”

And I am also suppose to believe that line of bullshit after a college student eats more than the recommended dose of a marijuana-laced cookie and jumps to his death from a hotel balcony.

Along with:

A husband with no history of violence is accused of shooting his wife in the head, possibly after eating pot-infused candy.
The two recent deaths have stoked concerns about Colorado’s recreational marijuana industry and the effects of the drug, especially since cookies, candy and other pot edibles can be exponentially more potent than a joint.
“We’re seeing hallucinations, they become sick to their stomachs, they throw up, they become dizzy and very anxious,” said Al Bronstein, medical director of the Rocky Mountain Poison and Drug Center.
Studies are mixed about whether there is any link between marijuana and violence. Still, pot legalization opponents said the deaths are a sign of future dangers.
Twenty-six people have reported poisonings from marijuana edibles this year, when the center started tracking such exposures. Six were children who swallowed innocent- looking edibles, most of which were in plain sight.
Five of those kids were sent to emergency rooms, and two to hospitals for intensive care, Bronstein said. Children were nauseous and sleepy, and doctors worried about their respiratory systems shutting down.
Supporters of the pot law and some experts counter that alcohol causes far more problems among users, and the issues with pot can be largely addressed through better regulations.
The deaths occurred as Colorado lawmakers are scrambling to create safety regulations for the largely unmonitored marijuana snacks. On Thursday, the Legislature advanced a package of bills that would lower the amount of THC that could be permitted in a serving of food and require more extensive warning labels.
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2014/04/18/colorado-deaths-stoke- worries-about-pot-edibles/

An autopsy report listed marijuana intoxication as a significant contributing factor in the death of 19-year-old Levy Thamba Pongi. The other contributing factor was a sudden impact with the ground.

Gatlin posted on 2016-05-22 17:08:58 Reply Private Reply

#10: Operation 40 To: Gatlin (#8)

How long has marijuana been used as medicine?

From the National Institutes of Health, National Cancer Institute:

The use of Cannabis for medicinal purposes dates back to ancient times

http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/patient/cannabis-pdq#section/all

You DO remember that the Federal Government holds a patent on the use of Cannabinoids, don't you? US PATENT #6630507. You can search the number if you've forgotten.

Also from the link above:

Cannabis and cannabinoids may have benefits in treating the symptoms of cancer or the side effects of cancer therapies. There is growing interest in treating children for symptoms such as nausea with Cannabis and cannabinoids, although studies are limited.
Cannabis has been shown to kill cancer cells in the laboratory

Hemp for Victory!

Operation 40 posted on 2016-05-22 18:12:25 Reply Private Reply

#11: Operation 40 To: Gatlin (#9)

A husband with no history of violence is accused of shooting his wife in the head, possibly after eating pot-infused candy.

That's horrible, but not common.

Certainly not as common as violence from taking or withdrawing from SSRI's, as you can clearly see at this link (click on all stories):

ssristories.com An example:

2016/05/16 - Mother of fentanyl overdose victim says bullying led her
daughter to drug — (News Talk 650 CKOM)
2016/05/09 - Stittsville woman dies from injuries — (The Ottawa Citizen)
2016/05/03 - Veteran’s suicidal past wasn’t known when police put him in cell,
inquiry hears — (The Globe and Mail)
2016/04/26 - Mountie admits hitting, burning son, tells court “I am living with
the devil.”— (Metro News)
2016/04/19 - Coroner: Kindra Chapman committed suicide by hanging — (The
Birmingham News)
2016/04/10 - Murder-suicide third blow for Western dorm — (The London Free Press)
2016/04/07 - B.C. care homes provide anti-depressants without diagnoses — (Times
Colonist)
2016/03/31 - Sarah’s Story — (SSRI Stories)
2016/03/30 - Detectives: Olympia mom slashed her children’s throats because she
wanted them to stop crying — (Q13 Fox)
2016/03/25 - Deroxat, Prozac, Effexor, Zoloft : votre antidépresseur peut-il
vous rendre alcoolique? Can your antidepressant turn you into an alcoholic? —
(Le Lanceur)
2016/03/23 - Texas Mom Charged with Murdering Her Children Asked ‘Did I Do
Anything Bad to My Kids?’: Police — (People)
2016/03/21 - Banker killed himself after telling wife of affair — (The Telegraph)
2016/03/21 - Shattered Dream: The Shocking Death of Former Braves Phenom. Tommy
Hanson Left Friends, Family to Pick Up the Pieces — (Bleacher Report)
2016/03/19 - Benz driver likely to avoid drink-driving charge (Updated) —
(Bangkok Post)
2016/03/18 - Doctor found dead in New Delhi AIIMS, cause unknown — (Hindustan Times)
2016/03/17 - Authorities say two girls and their mother were dead before a house
explosion and fire killed their father and shook homes throughout the
neighborhood — (USNews.com)
2016/03/17 - Cody Glode suicide shows mental health system is in crisis, says
mother — (CBC)
2016/03/10 - Kent man faces vehicular homicide charge in October death of SeaTac
woman — (Kent Reporter)
2016/03/10 - Airdrie mom calling for mental health reform following son’s
suicide — (Airdrie City View)
2016/03/05 - Thane murders: Hasnain Warekar was stuck in a huge debt of Rs 67
lakh — (India.com)
2016/03/02 - Family and friends pay tribute to “cheeky” Chard dad, Derek
Cummins, after accidental overdose death — (Chard and Ilminster News)
2016/02/26 - Citalopram is the Divorce Drug — (SurvivingAntidepressants.org)
2016/02/23 - The Unremembered — (The Globe and Mail)
2016/02/19 - Andrews family touched by death before fatal shooting — (Greater
New Milford Spectrum)
2016/02/09 - Mario Woods’ last moments: ‘You better squeeze that … and kill me’
— (SFGate)
2016/02/05 - Woman charged in teen’s death says she, too, was bullied — (The
Canton Repository)
2016/02/02 - Nicolla Rushton tragedy: Daughter told her ‘mummy is brightest star
in the sky’— (The Birmingham Mail)
2016/01/28 - Study finds certain antidepressants may double suicide risk in
children, adolescents — (FirstWordPharma)
2016/01/27 - Antidepressants can raise the risk of suicide, biggest ever review
finds / BMJ Article — (The Telegraph)
2016/01/23 - WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE LA LOCHE, SASKATCHEWAN SCHOOL SHOOTING
2016/01/20 - Mother questions inpatient psychiatric care of son (17) who took
own life — (The Irish Times)
2016/01/19 - N.Y. mom pleads guilty in drug overdose death of daughter, 6 — (CBS
News)
2016/01/18 - Man arrested in Salt Lake stabbing death of wife — (Hawaii News Now)
2016/01/18 - “A few weeks after I graduated, I tried to jump in front of a
train”: My bipolar disorder nightmare — (Salon)
2016/01/16 - Depression battle for man found dead in churchyard — (The Daily Echo)
2016/01/16 - French school teacher had attended psychiatric unit before Alps
avalanche tragedy — (International Business Times)
2016/01/09 - Children as young as two prescribed antidepressants linked to
deaths — (The Adelaide Advertiser)
2016/01/05 - Motive remains a mystery as police close case of Oakland quadruple
homicide-suicide — (Portland Press-Herald)
2015/12/28 - Husband opens up about late wife’s battle with PPD — (WoodTV8)
2015/12/24 - Soldier in highrise murder-suicide suffered from PTSD, obituary
says — (The Globe and Mail)
2015/12/24 - ‘Promising’ student died from antidepressant overdose after
recording emotional videos about her boyfriend — (The Mirror)
2015/12/10 - Depression May Be Tied to Lower Breast Cancer Survival — (MHMR
Services for the Concho Valley)
2015/12/09 - Depressed mum stabbed her two daughters to death because she feared
one had cancer — (The Mirror)
2015/12/02 - Wealthy Arab playboy found dead at £2,000-a-night Mayfair hotel
after cocaine binge — (Evening Standard)
2015/11/29 - Judge says he doesn’t believe defendant intended to kill wife —
(Kentucky New Era)
2015/11/27 - Alabama Girl Medically Kidnapped and Forced on Drugs: Parents
Facing Jail for Failure to Pay State Child Support — (Health Impact News)

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Operation 40 posted on 2016-05-22 18:18:48 Reply Private Reply

#12: Gatlin To: Operation 40 (#10)

How long has marijuana been used as medicine?

I don’t find its use as a medicine dates back 10,000 years, but I knew that it had been around a long time.

As early as 2737 B.C., the mystical Emperor Shen Neng of China was prescribing marijuana tea for the treatment of gout, rheumatism, malaria and, oddly enough, poor memory.

Do cannabis and cannabinoids have ANY benefits in treating the symptoms of cancer or the side effects of cancer therapies?

Cannabis and cannabinoids may have benefits in treating the symptoms of cancer or the side effects of cancer therapies. There is growing interest in treating children for symptoms such as nausea with Cannabis and cannabinoids, although studies are limited.

This quote states only “MAY” amd “INTEREST IN” … this nebulous considerations are of no real value.

Cannabis has been shown to kill cancer cells in the laboratory.

While the above-displayed quote does indeed appear on Cancer.gov, this does not mean that cannabis has been proved to kill cancer in humans. In fact, the National Cancer Institute (NCI) clarified the referenced statement by saying that insufficient evidence exists to recommend cannabis for use by cancer patients: There is not enough evidence to recommend that patients inhale or ingest Cannabis as a treatment for cancer-related symptoms or side effects of cancer therapy. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has not approved Cannabis or cannabinoids for use as a cancer treatment.

…the Federal Government holds a patent on the use of Cannabinoids …

Why would the Government want to own a patent on a drug that has no medicinal value, is highly addictive and toxic?

Gatlin posted on 2016-05-22 21:12:18 Reply Private Reply

#13: Gatlin To: Operation 40 (#11)

A husband with no history of violence is accused of shooting his wife in the head, possibly after eating pot-infused candy.
That's horrible, but not common.
Certainly not as common as violence from taking or withdrawing from SSRI's, as you can clearly see at this link (click on all stories):

Your “not as common as” argument is known as the fallacy of relative privation. That is a form of the moral equivalence fallacy used by someone who knows perfectly well that what they are saying is wrong.

By being fully aware that they’re saying something wrong, they feel compelled to attempt to justify it and do so by pointing to other usually worse actions. The existence of a worse atrocity, however, does not actually justify anything — it merely points out that there have been similar things in the past.

People who use this as a justification may be well aware that it's logically fallacious, and use it purely as rhetoric, or as a distraction.

Gatlin posted on 2016-05-23 00:25:29 Reply Private Reply