TACOMA, Wash. -- A Tacoma neighborhood is under siege by a group relentless teens. Since the summer months the group has terrorized innocent residents, who now say they've had enough.

"Initially it kind of started with some kids, some school kids, getting off a bus right here," said Jon Jarmon, who lives in the neighborhood. South 45th Street near the Tacoma Mall has always been a busy residential area, but recently it's also become dangerous. For months neighbors say the teens have been harassing residents and vandalizing their homes and property.

"You have no peace, no freedom," said Jarmon.

Jarmon has shuttered his windows and even put up a net to prevent rocks from doing more damage to his Tacoma home. He has even captured video of the teens hurling rocks into houses and cars.

"They're not only targeting me but they are targeting my neighbors as well," said Jarmon.

Less than block away, neighbor Sam Pasana has a broken window in his SUV.

"There's multiple neighbors here that have had their windows broken out," said Pasana, who lives on the Tacoma neighborhood. "If anyone has ever had a window broken out, it's pretty costly."

And another neighbor a few homes away has been the victim of an attempted burglary. Neighbors say the teens also spew racial slurs on loud bullhorns in the middle of the night and even bang on front doors of homes and townhouses.

"I feel like it's a ticking time bomb for this situation," said Pasana.

Neighbors have contact police multiple times but say the problems haven't stopped. Even so, many residents say they love their community and won't let harassment and vandalism push them away.

The community would like to start a neighborhood watch to shine a brighter light on these growing problems.

We reached out to the Tacoma Police Department to talk about these issues but they were not available.

Tacoma residents say rowdy teens terrorizing neighborhood

A couple of kids riding their bikes are "rowdy teens terrorizing neighborhood"?

Look, I know you are one of the "cops are gods" contingent here at LF, but seriously?

You really believe that the story you posted somehow justifies the cops behavior?

Williams then arrested Monique and charged her with resisting arrest and, get this, assault on an officer.

After viewing the surveillance video of the incident, however, all of the charges were thrown out.

You must have missed that part.

Charges HER with Assualt

Cops ALWAYS charge the people they have beaten up with assault. It gives them paperwork "justification" to claim "I was only defending myself!" if the victim complains.

Notice how "I was just defending myself!" is NEVER seen as justification for a citizen defending him or herself from attack by a cop,though.

Two Tacoma teenagers have been charged as adults in a shootout near the Tacoma Mall Transit Center that left a 17-year-old boy severely wounded.

Antione Trent and Isaac Miller, both 16, were arraigned Thursday on first- degree assault charges. Both pleaded not guilty, and Court Commissioner Meagan M. Foley set bail at $500,000 for each.

The wounded teen remains in the hospital in critical condition. He underwent his fifth surgery Thursday.

The shooting happened about 2:20 p.m. Saturday on South 47th Street.

Charging papers gave this account:

Miller and the 17-year-old were at the transit center together. Trent arrived on a bus. The teens interacted a few times before the 17-year-old punched Trent, starting a fist fight.

Surveillance footage from the transit center and the bus showed the boys brawling. It then showed Trent lose a shoe and the 17-year-old stoop to pick it up.

Trent pulled out a gun and shot the other teen in the stomach from 5 feet away. Miller and the 17-year-old ran and Trent fired at their backs.

“Miller then clearly pulls a gun out of his waistband and fires three shots in the direction of Trent,” prosecutors allege.

The two continue running and Trent allegedly shoots at them again.

Police found Miller tending to his friend at the scene. A .38-caliber revolver was next to him.

A .380 semiautomatic pistol was found in a trash can in an alley between South Fife Street and a big box store where Trent was seen fleeing.

“The State cannot emphasize enough the extreme danger of these shootings or the stunning nature of the security footage,” deputy prosecutor Jesse Williams wrote in charging documents.

“It is remarkable that no one other than (the 17-year-old) was hit by the gunfire, either civilians at the transit center or motorists on the busy thoroughfare that is South 47th Street.”

Trent has two prior felony convictions and Miller has one, records show.

The most important thing to point out is that HE HAD NO AUTHORITY TO STOP HER TO START WITH. A shopping center parking lot is by definition public property,and he has no legal or moral authority to stop anyone from entering it at any time of the day or night.

Which nullifies the first point about her resisting arrest. He had no right to stop or try to arrest her,so she can't be charged with resisting an illegal arrest.

Officer Cartman was just having one of those "You WILL respect my authoritay!" moments. SOB should be fired and sued by both the city and the girls parents.

Two Tacoma teenagers have been charged as adults in a shootout near the Tacoma Mall Transit Center that left a 17-year-old boy severely wounded.

I didn't see either one of the kids riding their bike in the possession of a weapon.

Perhaps you need to look at the video.

Your attempt to portray these two innocent kids as hardened criminals is beyond pathetic, but as we are all well aware, you suffer from a pathological fetish for authority.

Once again - the 15 year old girl riding her bike who was brutally assaulted by police had nothing to do with any shootout.

Your miserable attempt to defend the cops' actions here speaks volumes of your dishonesty and lack of character.

Williams then arrested Monique and charged her with resisting arrest and, get this, assault on an officer.

After viewing the surveillance video of the incident, however, all of the charges were thrown out.

Yet you continue to defend the cops.

A couple of kids riding their bikes are "rowdy teens terrorizing neighborhood"?

Don’r ask me … I wasn’t there.

Look, I know you are one of the "cops are gods" contingent here at LF, but seriously? You really believe that the story you posted somehow justifies the cops behavior?

Nope, I seriously don’t.

Williams then arrested Monique and charged her with resisting arrest and, get this, assault on an officer.

After viewing the surveillance video of the incident, however, all of the charges were thrown out.You must have missed that part.

Nope, I did not miss that part.

Jarmon has shuttered his windows and even put up a net to prevent rocks from doing more damage to his Tacoma home. He has even captured video of the teens hurling rocks into houses and cars.

Last time I went to the city for a doctors appointment,there were maybe 6-8 black teens and a couple of black pre-teens standing in the divider between two 2 lane city streets,throwing rocks at passing cars. No reason for it,they were just laughing and having a good time.

It must be stated they were standing directly across from the entrance to a welfare housing tract of condos,and when I first spotted them they had hit a Jeep Wagoneer with rocks,and the driver had came to a screeching halt in the road,and started to get out of the jeep,which caused them all to haul ass for mama's crib.

When you don't teach your children responsibility,don't be surprised when they act like wild animals and get locked up.

If society really wanted to stop this crap all they would have to do would be force mama out of the "free" government housing,cut off her check she is paid to take care of the children she is getting paid welfare to raise,and put her off sprung into child care where they could be taught manners. I can guarantee you that you won't have to cut off the "free" housing,paychecks,and food stamps to more than 2 or 3 professional baby mamas before the rest of them take a sudden and rabid interest in the conduct and activity of their bastard children.

There is an old truism is that states "When you don't expect anything,don't be surprised with nothing is what you get."

And another neighbor a few homes away has been the victim of an attempted burglary. Neighbors say the teens also spew racial slurs on loud bullhorns in the middle of the night and even bang on front doors of homes and townhouses.

"I feel like it's a ticking time bomb for this situation," said Pasana.

Coming soon to a neighborhood near you all,unless you are millionaires.

You can thank Bathhouse Barry and the rest of the Tan Klan for that.

The girl CLEARLY was trying to ride away on her bicycle

Trying - maybe.

She got about a foot away before the "hero" sprung into action, saving the day from these hardened criminals.

HE HAD NO AUTHORITY TO STOP HER TO START WITH. A shopping center parking lot is by definition public property

That is my understanding as well, and since the kids had apparently done this on a number of occasions, it seems like the cop saw a opportunity to flex his authority on a couple of innocent kids.

What, you don't expect him to actually go after real criminals, do you?

Tacoma residents say rowdy teens terrorizing neighborhood

A couple of kids riding their bikes are "rowdy teens terrorizing neighborhood"?

Look, I know you are one of the "cops are gods" contingent here at LF, but seriously?

Ahhh,but these were "safe" ones to jump because it was in the middle of the afternoon,and one of them was a young girl.

You don't really expect them to go after male hoodrats between 15 and 25 years old running in packs after dark,do you.

Two Tacoma teenagers have been charged as adults in a shootout near the Tacoma Mall Transit Center that left a 17-year-old boy severely wounded.

Antione Trent and Isaac Miller, both 16, were arraigned Thursday on first- degree assault charges.

Why wasn't Trent charged with attempted murder?

Two Tacoma teenagers have been charged as adults in a shootout near the Tacoma Mall Transit Center that left a 17-year-old boy severely wounded.

I didn't see either one of the kids riding their bike in the possession of a weapon.

Perhaps you need to look at the video.

Your attempt to portray these two innocent kids as hardened criminals is beyond pathetic, but as we are all well aware, you suffer from a pathological fetish for authority.

Once again - the 15 year old girl riding her bike who was brutally assaulted by police had nothing to do with any shootout.

Your miserable attempt to defend the cops' actions here speaks volumes of your dishonesty and lack of character.

Williams then arrested Monique and charged her with resisting arrest and, get this, assault on an officer.

After viewing the surveillance video of the incident, however, all of the charges were thrown out.

Yet you continue to defend the cops.

Why wasn't Trent charged with attempted murder?

I have no idea ... do you think he should have been?

And another neighbor a few homes away has been the victim of an attempted burglary. Neighbors say the teens also spew racial slurs on loud bullhorns in the middle of the night and even bang on front doors of homes and townhouses. "I feel like it's a ticking time bomb for this situation," said Pasana.

Coming soon to a neighborhood near you all,unless you are millionaires.

You can thank Bathhouse Barry and the rest of the Tan Klan for that.

We are in complete agreement !!!

The girl CLEARLY was trying to ride away on her bicycle

Trying - maybe.

She got about a foot away before the "hero" sprung into action, saving the day from these hardened criminals.

And there you are in all your glory,admitting against your will that she WAS trying to get away.

The "she was only a foot away......" excuse is lame beyond belief. How far away would she have to be before you would admit she was tying to avoid arrest,a half block?

Not that the cop had any authority at all to stop her. He didn't.

Where have I defended the cops here

Don't be an ass.

You were attempting to link criminal activity by others to the two kids riding their bikes, insinuating that the two kids must be guilty simply for living in the same neighborhood.

Why wasn't Trent charged with attempted murder?

I have no idea ... do you think he should have been?

Yes. He pulled a gun out of his pants and gut shot someone standing 5 feet away. How could that not be attempted murder?

Now,if he were still being attacked or the other guy had already pulled his gun,that would be different.

admitting against your will that she WAS trying to get away.

So what if she was?

The cop had no business stopping her, that much has already been established.

She was under no obligation to stay.

Looking at the video again, it's not clear that she was trying to get away. She moved the bike forward yes, but that's it.

A shopping center parking lot is by definition public property

By whose definition ... yours?

A shopping center parking lot is public property only is it is government owned.

If the shopping center parking lot is privately owned, then it is private property.

You will need to show me why a security guard hired by the private property owners cannot stop someone in the privately owned parking lot ... do so, please.

The cop had no business stopping her, that much has already been established.

Established by whom?

If society really wanted to stop this crap all they would have to do would be force mama out of the "free" government housing,cut off her check she is paid to take care of the children she is getting paid welfare to raise,and put her off sprung into child care where they could be taught manners. I can guarantee you that you won't have to cut off the "free" housing,paychecks,and food stamps to more than 2 or 3 professional baby mamas before the rest of them take a sudden and rabid interest in the conduct and activity of their bastard children.

Private security guards work for the private business that they are hired by. If your employer can search your stuff at work (part of terms of employment, company policy, or contract deal etc.), then the hired security guard can do so. Fourth amendment protection only applies to governmental intrusion. Security guards are not agents of the government.

Where is this proven incorrect?

If the shopping center parking lot is privately owned, then it is private property.

There you go again, still trying to find a way to defend the cop's actions.

The kids were riding their bikes through the parking lot as they had done numerous times before without incident.

I'm sure the owners of the mall (Simon Property Group) would be disgusted with the actions of the cop.

You - not so much

If your employer can search your stuff at work (part of terms of employment, company policy, or contract deal etc.), then the hired security guard can do so.

What were they searching for in this case?

Looking at the video again, it's not clear that she was trying to get away.

Oh, you HAD to LOOK at the video TWICE ... after you told me to "look at the video again?

You say it's not clear that she was trying to get away.

There is no audio, so it is not clear to me that she did not say, "you can't stop me for anything, you fucking pig and I am leaving rat now and you can't do anything about it ..."

I did notice it odd that there was a video from high above that actually followed the kids and the cop across the parking lot and the video stopped when they stopped. That could smack as a "set up" to me for a possible programmed confrontation with planned actions for the purpose of bleeding money from the city. Things like that have happened ... a number of times ... right? Not saying this is the case here ... just saying it has happened.

Of course the city dropped the charges, what else do you expect the PC government assholes to do this day and time ... the assholes are frightened of anything and everything this day and time.

You are ready to admit the Tacoma Mall parking lot is private property ... right?

Most malls will not permit skate boarding or bike riding in their parking lot for liability reasons and because it endangers customers. This may have been the case here ... bicycling was prohibited. A possibility ...

Where have I defended the cops here

Don't be an ass.

You were attempting to link criminal activity by others to the two kids riding their bikes, insinuating that the two kids must be guilty simply for living in the same neighborhood.

Wrong, I was neither attempting nor insinuating anything.

I only wanted to watch you go through your completely programmed and practiced routine, making suppositions to fit your agenda and cause.

You did … and I laughed at your standard reactions again while you were doing it..

You are so predictable …

it is not clear to me that she did not say, "you can't stop me for anything, you fucking pig and I am leaving rat now and you can't do anything about it ..."

Attaboy!

it is not clear to me that she did not say, "you can't stop me for anything, you fucking pig and I am leaving rat now and you can't do anything about it ..."

Attaboy!

We don’t know why the security officer decided to stop them. It may have been an arbitrary decision by the security officer to do so, although I doubt that. I would lean more to him actively enforcing rules, regulations, policies and procedures as established by the mall management.

I have considered conjectures posted on this thread. Now, I will offer one of my own.

Suppose bicycle riding and skate boarding is prohibited in the Tacoma Mall parking lot in a written directive by management with posted signs (although posted signs are not legally required). Then suppose these kids had cut through the lot a number of times before (wait … that is no supposition … they admitted to doing that) and were told a number of times before to stop doing it. Suppose the security officer saw them doing the same thing again and stopped them. Then the kid challenged his authority, pulled away from him and started to leave.

We don't know that happened and we don't know that it didn't happen. We don 't know what actually happened ... other than what is perceived from the video.

All this does not excuse the officer from using excessive force, if that was determined to be the case by prominent authority. But, it may point out that the kids were not innocent victims … just in field training for the next “Black Lives Matter” get together.

You fuckin’ bleeding heart liberals need to get with reality … and stop falling hook, line and sinker for the thought channeling these professional propagandist put you through in their biased articles with an agenda.

Do I believe that is ever going to happen with you … HELL, NO!!!

This girl didn't pull out a gun, didn't attack an officer, but she was assaulted in a vicious manner. Four against the girl and the boy, who did nothing, won the day. Come on, folks, no one likes a bully.

What did she do? You didn't watch the video, did you? If so, then where did you see "four" people? I missed that ...

I don't know what really happened, but it looks like he was writing her a citation and she started to leave. He grabbed her arm to retain her and she struggled.

Excessive speed is one of the restrictions posted against bicycle riders in most all mall parking lots. It is not possible to tell how fast the bicyclist were traveling, but it is readily apparent the security vehicle was traveling quite fast to catch up with them.

When he did, the officer listened patiently to the girl and then he apparently pulled a citation book from his right side shirt pocket and started to write a ticket. The girl started to leave and the security officer grabbed her to detain her. She struggled with him and he pinned her against a vehicle to restrain her. I would never have dropped the charges of resisting arrest … she obviously did.

That is the way I see it … you see it anyway you want to.

Top Republican Warns Obama Might Make Black People Immune From Prosecution ‘Regardless Of The Crime’

Kansas’ Secretary of State Kris Kobach (R) told listeners of his radio show that President Obama could absolve black people of all crimes and refuse to prosecute them in the future. He also implied that Attorney General Eric Holder is a reverse racist for not applying civil rights laws to white people.

During the weekly show, a caller named Stu postulated that Obama may announce in the future that a “black person accused of a crime, charged with a crime, is not going to be prosecuted, regardless of the crime,” based on his recent immigration action. He also argued that the government is already in the process of doing so, since Holder did not prosecute Black Panthers.

Kobach didn’t dispute the claims, saying, “Well, it’s already happened more or less in the case of civil rights laws. I guess it’s not a huge jump. I think it’s unlikely, but you know I’ve learned to say with this president, never say never.” He also claimed that Holder “basically made it clear….that the civil rights laws were only to protect minority races, and he was not going to be enforcing them to the benefit of white people who were discriminated against on the basis of their race.”

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/03/05/3630291/kris-kobach-black- criminals/

Was this the case here … I don’t know.

But with all the PC this day and time and the frighten candy assed civil servants … it could have been.

Excessive speed is one of the restrictions posted against bicycle riders in most all mall parking lots.

Good grief - is there no end to your absurdity?

Just how fast do you think the two kids were traveling? 5 mph? 10 mph?

This is just more of your usual deflection tactics in an attempt to to exonerate the cop.

These EDITED tapes NEVER show the BEFORE ... only the part they can draw perceived conclusions from. These cop-hating pseudo-journalists structure their presentation so carefully and lead gullible people, like yourself, down primrose path to believe what you already want to believe.

If the civil authorities continue to not back their officers ... that will lead to a point where the officers will say, "fuck it" and turn their heads to all infractions.

That will eventually lead to anarchy. But, wait ... anarchy is what you hope and pray for, I almost forgot.

https://photographyisnotacrime.com/2016/05/washington-cop-attacks-girl-for-riding-bike-blames-her-for-attacking-him/

In his report, he claimed Tillman and her brother were cutting off cars with their bicycles and yelling and swearing at drivers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLuuvmJ6L_Y

0:49 — Officer Williams appears to take out book to record information or write a citation

0:55 — Officer Williams begins writing

0:56 — Suspect Tillman starts to ride off and is stopped by Officer Williams

1:07 — Suspect Tillman held against vehicle; resists Officer Williams

1:14 — Officer Williams right hand is on upper chest of Suspect Tillman, not on neck or choking

1:25 — Suspect Tillman continues to resist and is wrestled away from vehicle

1:27 — Suspect Tillman wrestled to the ground and continues to resist

1:34 — Officer Williams starts to draw Taser

1:38 — Suspect Tillman, on ground, is tased; stops resisting.

Suspect Tillman is handcuffed by unidentified Security Officer.

See still photos:

Hand not on neck

Tased while on ground

Resisting

From the COMPLAINT:

4.13. Defendant Williams then handcuffed Plaintiff and put her into a patrol car.

Clearly, it is not Officer Williams who handcuffed Tillman. It is one of three security officers on the scene. Their uniforms are distinctive and different. Officer Williams stood aside as this took place.

4.14. Plaintiff was charged with assault on a police officer and resisting arrest, charges which were dismissed after trial.

This appears strange. Was Tillman found not guilty after trial? Did the trial proceed to its end? A clarification of what actually happened at trial would be helpful.

4.17. Defendant Williams' conduct proximately caused Plaintiffs injuries, harms and damages.

What injuries? The Complaint does not specify any physical injuries.

5.1. The acts and omissions of all Defendants proximately caused Plaintiff Monique Charlene Tillman to suffer physical injuries, physical and mental pain and suffering, embarrassment and discomfort.

Again, physical injuries are cited but not specified.

http://komonews.com/news/local/tasered-teen-it-felt-like-electricity-running-through-my-veins-11-21-2015

Tasered teen: 'It felt like electricity running through my veins'

By Elisa Jaffe
KOMOnews.com
Tuesday, February 10th

TACOMA, Wash. -- Monique Tillman said she's still shocked by the violent confrontation that unfolded with police last May in the Tacoma Mall parking lot.

Now she and the Tacoma Police Department have very different versions of how their violent confrontation transpired.

Tillman was 15-years old at the time and riding bikes on a Saturday with her 16-year-old brother. They'd left McDonald's and decided to take a short cut home through the mall's lot. Mall security ordered the teens to pull over, but officers say the kids didn't stop.

Security video shows Tillman, now 16, talking with an off-duty Tacoma Police officer hired by the mall for crime prevention. Their encounter rapidly escalates.

"He was just pulling my hair and like he was trying to slam my face into the ground," she said.

The officer looks to take out a note pad to write down information. Tillman said she didn't have identification and thought she was being racially profiled and told the officer that. Before the officer could write anything down, Tillman admits she tried to ride away. That's when he grabbed her.

"I did have a bit of an attitude, but that's because it was a waste of my time. I hadn't done anything wrong," she said.

The police report described the kids cutting off cars earlier, swearing and yelling at anyone who honked at them, and that the mall wanted them stopped and given a trespassing notice.

"I felt like they just see me as some black kid wanting to cause problems or something. And it was nothing like that," said the 11th grader.

The report claims Tillman, who says she's a straight A student at Bates Technical High School, became belligerent, swearing, screaming, and resisting until she was Tased by the Tacoma officer.

"It felt like electricity running through my veins instead of blood," she said.

That's when she stopped resisting and started cooperating. An attorney for the family plans to sue the Tacoma Police Department and the off-duty officer.

"This officer was obviously confused about what his powers were and he chose to exceed what he was allowed to do and hurt my client," said attorney Tom Balerud.

Balerud said the officer was performing a corporate function for the mall, not a police function, and abused his power. Tacoma Police Department Public Information Officer Loretta Cool disagrees.

Of the officer, Cool said, "His presence at the Tacoma Mall, even though off duty and paid by mall, he's a police officer and he's acting as a police officer."

He had his car, his uniform, and his Taser. Cool said the second he was called on to order the teens off the private property and turned his lights on, the officer was working on the city's payroll, not the mall's.

A department investigation into the use of force determined the officer could have used more force than he did on the teen when she fought back. Cool said it looked like he was going easy on the girl because of her age and size.

Balerud said the thought that more force would have been acceptable under department policy is reprehensible.

In his report, he claimed Tillman and her brother were cutting off cars with their bicycles and yelling and swearing at drivers.

Ah Ha! I knew that the didn't stop them just to write an invitation to his birthday party. I figured they must have committed some offense.

So, Deckard, Mister Always Right Cop-Hater ... will you ever wait until you have all the information available before you pass judgment on cops and find them guilty of everything.

The answer to that, of course ... is No, Never.

Thank you ...

So, Deckard, Mister Always Right Cop-Hater ... will you ever wait until you have all the information available

He's batting .000 for the year.

So, Deckard, Mister Always Right Cop-Hater ... will you ever wait until you have all the information available

He's batting .000 for the year.

He is pathetic.

These EDITED tapes NEVER show the BEFORE ...

This was a SURVEILLANCE tape made by the mall security camera.

Now you are claiming the video has been edited?

In his report, he claimed Tillman and her brother were cutting off cars with their bicycles and yelling and swearing at drivers.

Oh - he "claimed" that, did he?

Then why were the kids not charged with that offense?

In his report, he claimed Tillman and her brother were cutting off cars with their bicycles and yelling and swearing at drivers.

Oh - he "claimed" that, did he?

Then why were the kids not charged with that offense?

Because his good hearted nature caused him to be benevolent and his kindly feelings were motivated by sympathetic understanding to let her off with a verbal warning: Telling her she was causing a disturbance and going to be “trespassed,” or banned, from the mall. He also warned her that she could be arrested if she were to return. Besides, she was charged in juvenile court with resisting arrest and assaulting an officer .... to “pile on charges” against the lovely poor innocent girl who was so demure and polite while conforming to social norms would be cruel and inhumane.

Then why were the kids not charged with that offense?

They were arrested on other charges. You want more?

In his report, he claimed Tillman and her brother were cutting off cars with their bicycles and yelling and swearing at drivers.

Oh - he "claimed" that, did he?

Then why were the kids not charged with that offense?

I reckon that's because traffic infractions are not criminal offenses and are not charged in criminal court.

Then why were the kids not charged with that offense?

You and people like you are the reason I arrested everyone that caused me to put my hands on them. astonishingly, many officers with bleeding libtarded hearts still lay hands on and then, feel bad and don't arrest. Then the liability suits come in for excessive force... and the scumbags attorney claims his client was an angel because he/she wasn't arrested. It doesn't pay to have a heart and soul... because of scumbags like you.

They are determined to gain power through constant arguing. Their bullying and physical violence, coupled with their refusal to follow rules and assume responsibility for their actions, along with their cursing and threatening behavior needs to be addressed.

Dealing with oppositional defiant juveniles can be frustrating and exhausting. Excusing their uncivil actions by wrongfully misplacing blame on an officer performing his duty is an abomination.

A shopping center parking lot is by definition public property

By whose definition ... yours?

By any sane definition known to man.

Or do the words "open to the public" confuse you?

The Future Felons of America and dey mama's might not like it,but it's still true.