Former Texas Rep. Ron Paul, father of Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., speaks in Richmond, Va., in this Nov. 4, 2013, file photo. (AP Photo/Steve Helber, File)
Former Texas Rep. Ron Paul said Friday he couldnt support GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump if Mr. Trump wins the partys nomination, saying Mr. Trumps views on the scope of executive authority could surpass those of President Obama.
No, I couldnt do that, Mr. Paul said on Fox Business Network when asked if he would support Mr. Trump, should the billionaire businessman win the GOP nomination. Hes [the] opposite of a libertarian.
Mr. Paul, a three-time presidential candidate, said on foreign policy, Mr. Trump probably wouldnt be that much different than former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, the Democratic front-runner.
I think the die-hard neoconservatives would not be that extremely unhappy with Hillary, Mr. Paul said.
Trump is going to be the most efficient [at] using the executive orders, he said. Hell say this is the way it is, you know. Obama was pretty arrogant. If you dont do it, [the] Congress, Ill write an order. Well, I think Trump [will] be 10 times worse on writing orders because hes used to doing this, and he brags about it.
He wants to be the boss. Im not looking for a boss. We want somebody that will allow us to be our own boss, is what I think we should be looking for, Mr. Paul said.
#1: Operation 40 To: hondo68 (#0)
He's a liar- he lied to his supporters about making a deal with Romney, and then disappeared while his campaign took their money. Frankly, as one who has supported this man for years, I'd be happy if I never heard from him again. His time has come and gone- and now we're all stuck with his neo-con punk kid Rand. Hopefully Rand will lose his senate seat.
NO MORE PAULS
Time to BUST UP DC- Trump for Victory
LIVE Stream: Donald Trump Rally in Salt Lake City, UT (3-18-16) (replay on now)
Operation 40 posted on 2016-03-18 23:01:07 Reply Private Reply
#2: Hondo68 To: Operation 40 (#1)
A touching story of how Trump tried to bribe a veteran with $1,000,000 to protect him from Megyn Kelly, but he refused to help the cowardly Donald.
Sweet!
Hondo68 posted on 2016-03-18 23:30:27 Reply Private Reply
#3: Logsplitter To: hondo68 (#0)
Logsplitter posted on 2016-03-18 23:47:19 Reply Private Reply
#4: Operation 40 To: hondo68 (#2)
And you realize that unless the Retard party decides to steal the nomination from The Donald it's going to be Trump vs. Clinton right? Actually I think Jill Stein is the best candidate but the Green party isn't going to win under any circumstances.
So if Trump fails, here's your new First Couple:
Trump is a wild card but it's the last best hope. If the wicked witch slithers into 1600 Penn ave it's going to be a total disaster.
Operation 40 posted on 2016-03-19 02:29:18 Reply Private Reply
#5: Stoner To: Operation 40 (#4)
Stoner posted on 2016-03-19 02:59:55 Reply Private Reply
#6: Tooconservative To: Operation 40 (#1)
You were never a supporter but you've no doubt deluded yourself into thinking that you were.
Tooconservative posted on 2016-03-19 06:56:42 Reply Private Reply
#7: no gnu taxes To: hondo68 (#0)
Isn't it time for the nursing home orderlies to give you your sedative and change your diaper anyway?
no gnu taxes posted on 2016-03-19 08:02:30 Reply Private Reply
#8: A K A Stone To: TooConservative (#6)
Ron Paul is a moron. Anyone who thinks Heroin should be legal is a fucking idiot.
Ron Paul wants every immoral vice to be proclaimed as some kind of wonderful virtue.
Trump will make trade fair again. Ron Paul will just complain and whine.
A K A Stone posted on 2016-03-19 09:08:27 Reply Private Reply
#9: misterwhite To: hondo68 (#0)
Trump's son received a death threat in the mail, along with a white powder, and Trump attends a rally in Salt Lake City.
F**k you, Ron Paul. I'm not interested in anything you have to say.
misterwhite posted on 2016-03-19 10:06:54 Reply Private Reply
#10: no gnu taxes To: misterwhite (#9)
That sounds like Ross Perot
no gnu taxes posted on 2016-03-19 10:09:39 Reply Private Reply
#11: Stoner To: hondo68 (#0)
Is Trump perfect? Hardly.
But 10X worse than Obama? That is quite an exaggeration!
Trump will reverse flooding the country with illegals, and muslims, and he will reverse course on the one sided trade deals that the USA takes it in the shorts.
That is 100X BETTER THAN OBUNGHOLE !!
Stoner posted on 2016-03-19 10:13:01 Reply Private Reply
#12: misterwhite To: Stoner (#11)
Where was Ron Paul when Obama signed an EO protecting 5 million illegals? The non-enforcement of federal drug laws? Obama's 23 "executive actions" on guns? Obama's EO to raise the minimum wage for federal contractors? The EO to close Gitmo?
But he gets his panties in a wad because Trump might do the same.
misterwhite posted on 2016-03-19 10:37:29 Reply Private Reply
#13: calcon To: hondo68 (#0)
calcon posted on 2016-03-19 10:45:07 Reply Private Reply
#14: Hondo68 To: A K A Stone, D 'n R party drug cartel (#8)
Obama is doing a great job of protecting you from becoming a Heroin addict.
But you'll need 10X the protection if Trump becomes president?
The WOD has been a failure, with Opium production at record highs, as well as a Heroin epidemic. Uncle Sam is a drug pusher!
Thomas Massie: War on Drugs in Afghanistan Has Been a Failure
Opium production up since the Taliban left, after billions spent on counternarcotics.Hondo68 posted on 2016-03-19 12:55:35 Reply Private Reply
#15: Hondo68 To: Operation 40, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#4)
None of the above.
Hondo68 posted on 2016-03-19 13:01:40 Reply Private Reply
#16: Hondo68 To: TooConservative, Trump spam banned at RPF (#6)
www.ronpaulforums.com/sho...policies-on-Trump-support
Hondo68 posted on 2016-03-19 13:10:42 Reply Private Reply
#17: calcon To: hondo68 (#16)
I bet both of you members actively support this.
calcon posted on 2016-03-19 13:20:06 Reply Private Reply
#18: Roscoe To: hondo68 (#16)
Those poor pearl clutching special snowflakes.
Roscoe posted on 2016-03-19 13:24:49 Reply Private Reply
#19: Chuck_Wagon To: Stoner (#5)
So do I.
Chuck_Wagon posted on 2016-03-19 13:48:39 Reply Private Reply
#20: rlk To: hondo68 (#0)
Ron Paul, once a spokesperson for sanity in this country has become a tragic example of what senility can do to a man.
rlk posted on 2016-03-19 15:32:40 Reply Private Reply
#21: Deckard To: A K A Stone (#8)
Apparently you don't understand anything.
Who owns YOUR body Stone?
Deckard posted on 2016-03-19 18:10:22 Reply Private Reply
#22: Deckard To: misterwhite (#12)
And that precedent was set previously by Bush.
Deckard posted on 2016-03-19 18:31:58 Reply Private Reply
#23: misterwhite To: Deckard (#22)
Did he issue some that bothered you? Or are you just going by raw numbers?
misterwhite posted on 2016-03-19 18:45:32 Reply Private Reply
#24: Operation 40 To: TooConservative (#6)
You just simply can't control yourself, can you.
Oh Look- the LF'er who knows everything about everything is now able to read minds! You're really Miss Cleo in disguise, aren't you. If you tell me what the lottery numbers are going to be next week I'll cut you in on some of the winnings. Deal?
When was the last time you left your basement- December? I bet when you go out into Real Life and spout off the way you do here on an hourly basis you get some pushback- which is why you never go out anymore. Is that about right?
I couldn't care any less what you think about my Paul support or anything else. I've tried to make that clear to you but you're still confused. Because you know everything and can now read minds.
Operation 40 posted on 2016-03-19 19:05:00 Reply Private Reply
#25: Operation 40 To: rlk (#20)
His love and lust for money has ruined him. That and his desire to stuff his idiot punk jackass kid into the white house.
Rand has done more damage to the useless old man and his message than any other detractor in the world.
The Pauls are like a rash now. They all need to just go away.
Operation 40 posted on 2016-03-19 19:08:37 Reply Private Reply
#26: Hondo68 To: Deckard, nukes for mangoes (#22)
Hondo68 posted on 2016-03-19 19:31:22 Reply Private Reply
#27: Deckard To: misterwhite (#23)
Look, I realize I'm dealing with the festering carbuncle of LF here, but I'll respond to your idiocy anyway.
All of the shit Obama has done to destroy this country could not have taken place without the Bush administration setting the stage.
Deckard posted on 2016-03-19 19:51:07 Reply Private Reply
#28: Tooconservative To: calcon, hondo68 (#13)
You Trumpkins have such a lovely way of talking to people.
Other than venting your own obvious senile bile at someone online, do you actually think you win any converts to the Trumpkin bandwagon by saying things like this?
Tooconservative posted on 2016-03-19 20:37:29 Reply Private Reply
#29: Tooconservative To: Deckard (#27)
The imperial presidency has expanded steadily throughout the post-WW II era. It could be argued that it has continued largely unabated since Dishonest Abe and the Civil War.
So trying to blame Bush for what 0bama has done is pretty lame. You could always say of any president that "he only did it because so-and-so broke down the constitutional barriers, etc.". Even if there is some element of truth to it, a president's actions are his own, not those of any predecessor. They all choose to bend or break or ignore laws as they please and to try to use Congress and the courts to rubberstamp their will to power and desire to steamroll their opposition. This is true of all presidents.
The truth is, 0bama would have done all these things with or without Bush. Bush has been a handy whipping boy for 0bama to use, along with the libmedia pundits and assorted Lefties.
Tooconservative posted on 2016-03-19 20:42:38 Reply Private Reply
#30: calcon To: TooConservative (#28)
calcon posted on 2016-03-19 20:51:15 Reply Private Reply
#31: Hondo68 To: TooConservative, calcon, Trumpaloompas (#28)
Hondo68 posted on 2016-03-19 22:16:24 Reply Private Reply
#32: Operation 40 To: hondo68 (#31)
Rather than the bland, uninterested, aloof tone he usually displays? What's wrong?
Maybe what Rand lacked is any emotion at all. Among other things. Like strategy. What was up with him attacking Trump all the time, acting like some Guardian of the Republican Party? Talk about a loser.
Operation 40 posted on 2016-03-19 22:35:53 Reply Private Reply
#33: A K A Stone To: Deckard (#21)
God.
A K A Stone posted on 2016-03-19 22:57:27 Reply Private Reply
#34: calcon To: hondo68, keep the two party system bandwagon (#31)
Probably more then you ever did for ron paul.
calcon posted on 2016-03-20 02:07:56 Reply Private Reply
#35: no gnu taxes To: TooConservative (#29)
I would say it started very shortly after George Washington, if not immediately.
no gnu taxes posted on 2016-03-20 08:22:08 Reply Private Reply
#36: no gnu taxes To: TooConservative (#29)
And Paultards.
no gnu taxes posted on 2016-03-20 08:24:30 Reply Private Reply
#37: misterwhite To: Deckard (#27)
The stage was set by the U.S. Constitution in Article II, Section 1. Presidents always had the power of Executive Orders.
I'm saying Obama abused that power -- not based on the total number of EOs, but based on their content.
You brought up Bush. Fair enough. What did he pass by EO that was unconstitutional or so outrageous that you even mention it?
misterwhite posted on 2016-03-20 10:40:30 Reply Private Reply
#38: Roscoe To: misterwhite (#37)
Good luck getting a straight answer.
Roscoe posted on 2016-03-20 12:22:45 Reply Private Reply
#39: Deckard To: misterwhite (#37)
Here's one.
President George W. Bush issued several controversial executive orders surrounding the gathering of intelligence in the war on terror. Arguably the most controversial was a secret executive order he signed in 2002, authorizing the National Security Agency (NSA) to eavesdrop without a warrant on phone calls made by U.S. citizens and others living in the United States. The NSA had previously been limited exclusively to intelligence gathering operations outside of the country [source: Risen]. Critics of Bush's executive order accuse the NSA of conducting unconstitutional searches under the president's authorization.
All I am saying is that Obama's policies are simply a continuation of the policies set forth by the Bush administration .
You clowns don't get it, do you?
It doesn't matter who is president, the destruction of America will continue as the NWO agenda is increasingly implemented.
Deckard posted on 2016-03-20 12:37:03 Reply Private Reply
#40: A K A Stone To: Deckard (#39)
Is open borders part of the NWO agenda?
How about NAFTA, GATT, TPP, TTP etc?
A K A Stone posted on 2016-03-20 12:48:19 Reply Private Reply
#41: tpaine To: A K A Stone, y'all (#33)
History has shown us many false gods.
As an agnostic, until a God manifests itself to me, -- I'll own my own body, thank you...
tpaine posted on 2016-03-20 12:58:12 Reply Private Reply
#42: misterwhite To: Deckard (#39)
Where's the rest of the sentence? Let's try that again.
"authorizing the National Security Agency (NSA) to eavesdrop without a warrant on phone calls made by U.S. citizens and others living in the United States to a member of al Qaeda, affiliated with al Qaeda, or a member of an organization affiliated with al Qaeda, or working in support of al Qaeda" and that one party to the conversation was "outside of the United States."
Whatever. That program was allowed to die, by Bush, in 2007.
misterwhite posted on 2016-03-20 12:59:17 Reply Private Reply
#43: A K A Stone To: Deckard (#39)
A K A Stone posted on 2016-03-20 13:00:41 Reply Private Reply
#44: A K A Stone To: deckard (#43)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDr2NJPv8kE
A K A Stone posted on 2016-03-20 13:04:18 Reply Private Reply
#45: A K A Stone To: tpaine (#41)
There are more false ones then real ones.
It is himself not itself. You'll be waiting until you die. God doesn't do it your way. You have to do it his way.
The choice is yours as well as the destination.
I hope you find the truth.
A K A Stone posted on 2016-03-20 13:06:22 Reply Private Reply
#46: tpaine To: A K A Stone (#45)
As an agnostic, until a God manifests itself to me, -- I'll own my own body, thank you...
Your God is a male? - Fine with me, but I'd prefer a female - if a God wants my body...
tpaine posted on 2016-03-20 13:18:02 Reply Private Reply
#47: SOSO To: tpaine, AKA Stone (#41)
Free will.......it's a bitch ain't it.
SOSO posted on 2016-03-20 13:20:33 Reply Private Reply
#48: Vicomte13 To: TooConservative (#29)
Yes, since Abe. And he had to expand the power of government in the Civil War because the only way to break the chains of a quarter of the population was to attack the quarter of the population who were holding them in chains. There was no constitutional work around, because the Constitution itself was a fatally flawed document from the beginning, that had to effectively be suspended in order to get rid of slavery.
What followed that suspension was a new government. It worked a bit better than the old one - we haven't had a civil war since, but it's still pretty bad.
Our system doesn't work. Congress is structured in a way that guarantees its utter corruption, and the state governments are Mini-Me versions of the federal cesspool.
The Supreme Court is utterly imperial, and slow, awkward, subject to capture, and perpetually corrupted by politics.
That leaves the Executive, the President, as the only officeholder who has an actual range of motion in what he can do, because he controls the government agencies. So of course our government functions mostly as the result of executive orders. It's either that or non-function.
Trump will be the most "executive" of Chief Executives. He will wield the power of executive control over the agencies effectively to impose his vision.
His vision is reasonably good for a lot of Americans, so he will have a shot of doing something to advance his causes.
Ron Paul, by contrasted, bellowed abstract inanities for years and accomplished nothing...but he DID manage to build a political fief like all the rest of the politicians do. His son got that lily pad and bully pulpit, but then smashed it to pieces in a stupid jihad against Trump.
Vicomte13 posted on 2016-03-22 14:57:59 Reply Private Reply
#49: BorisY To: Chuck_Wagon (#19)
long
time
no
bark
love
boris
BorisY posted on 2016-08-29 16:07:38 Reply Private Reply
#50: Hondo68 To: BorisY, TooConservative (#49)
Good doggie!
Hondo68 posted on 2016-08-29 16:50:52 Reply Private Reply