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Title: Wrecked And Retching: Obscure Vomiting Illness Linked To Long-Term Pot Use
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Published: Nov 21, 2017
Author: Pauline Bartolone
Post Date: 2017-11-22 07:45:11 by Gatlin
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For 17 years, Chalfonte LeNee Queen suffered periodic episodes of violent retching and abdominal pain that would knock her off her feet for days, sometimes leaving her writhing on the floor in pain. “I’ve screamed out for death,” said Queen, 48, who lives in San Diego. “I’ve cried out for my mom who’s been dead for 20 years, mentally not realizing she can’t come to me.” Queen lost a modeling job after being mistaken for an alcoholic. She racked up tens of thousands of dollars in medical bills, and her nausea interrupted her sex life. Toward the end of her illness, Queen, who stands 5-foot-9, weighed in at a frail 109 pounds. Throughout the nearly two decades of pain, vomiting and mental fog, she visited the hospital about three times a year, but doctors never got to the bottom of what was ailing her. By 2016, she thought she was dying, that she “must have some sort of cancer or something they can’t detect,” Queen said. But she didn’t have cancer. She had an obscure syndrome called cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome, a condition only recently acknowledged by the medical community. It affects a small population — namely, a subset of marijuana users who smoke multiple times a day for months, years or even decades. There’s no hard data on the prevalence of the illness. But in California and Colorado, which have loosened marijuana laws in recent years, emergency physicians say they’re seeing it more often. One study in Colorado suggests there may be a link. Dr. Aimee Moulin, an emergency room physician at UC-Davis Medical Center in Sacramento, said she has seen a rise in the number of cases since California voters legalized recreational marijuana last November. She expects to see another increase after commercial sales are permitted starting in January. Doctors say it’s difficult to treat the condition. There is no cure other than to quit using marijuana, and many patients are skeptical that cannabis is making them sick, so they keep using it and their vomiting episodes continue. Doctors can do little to relieve the symptoms, since traditional anti-nausea medications often don’t work and there are no pills to prevent the onset of an episode. Patients may need intravenous hydration and hospital stays until the symptoms subside. “That’s really frustrating as an emergency physician,” said Moulin. “I really like to make people feel better.” Diagnosing the syndrome can also be frustrating — and expensive. There is no blood test to link the stomach ailment with marijuana use, so physicians often order pricey CT scans and lab tests to rule out other medical problems. Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome was first documented in Australia in 2004. Physicians have historically misdiagnosed it as the more generic cyclic vomiting syndrome, which has no identifiable cause or, as in Queen’s case, acute intermittent porphyria (AIP). “Five years ago, this wasn’t something that [doctors] had on their radar,” said Dr. Kennon Heard, an emergency physician at the University of Colorado in Aurora, who co-authored the Colorado study showing a possible tie between the liberalization of marijuana and a surge of the vomiting illness. “We’re at least making the diagnosis more now.” One surefire sign of the illness is when patients find relief in hot showers and baths. Queen said she would vomit repeatedly unless she was in a hot shower — so she’d stay in there for hours. Toxicologists say the heat may distract the brain from pain receptors in the abdomen but, like the syndrome itself, that phenomenon is not well understood. The exact cause of the condition is still a mystery. Toxicologists say the chemical compounds in marijuana may throw off the normal function of the body’s cannabinoid receptors, which help regulate the nervous system. Some people may be genetically predisposed to the syndrome, or marijuana’s potency or chemical makeup may have changed over time, said Dr. Craig Smollin, medical director of the San Francisco division of the California Poison Control System, who also works as an emergency physician at Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital. The vomiting link to cannabis is counterintuitive to many, because of its widely known reputation as an anti-nausea remedy for cancer patients. “A lot of times, people just don’t believe you,” said Dr. John Coburn, an emergency physician at Kaiser Permanente in south Sacramento. Even after being told that quitting may help, some patients will visit the hospital multiple times before they stop smoking marijuana, Coburn said. “I can’t really tell you why. I mean, why do people ride motorcycles without helmets on?” Cameron Nicole Beard, 19, of East Moline, Ill., said she struggled to believe her doctors about the link between pot and severe vomiting. “Who wants to be told you can’t smoke marijuana, when you think marijuana can help?” said Beard, while recovering from a marijuana-related vomiting episode at a University of Iowa hospital in Iowa City, Iowa, last month. She said she had lost 20 pounds in 10 days. Although there’s still no magic cure for a patient’s marijuana-related hyperemesis, Moulin and other doctors say they’re getting better at treating the symptoms, using old anti-psychotic medications and cream for muscle aches. Dr. Heard said the cases in Colorado seem to have leveled off. But without hard data, and because the overall numbers are small, it’s hard to say for sure. Heard said he doesn’t believe cases of the pot syndrome increased after recreational use was legalized in 2012, because chronic users probably already had medical marijuana cards. Chalfonte LeNee Queen is still struggling to completely quit marijuana, but her symptoms are down to a dull stomachache. She now smokes a couple of times a day, compared with her near-constant use in the past. She said it’s the only thing that works for her depression and anxiety. Queen is back to a healthy weight and hasn’t been to the hospital in a year. She said she wouldn’t want to discourage anybody from smoking weed; she just wants people to know heavy use can bring them some serious misery. “Now, if I get sick, as sad as I’ll be and as upset and disappointed with myself as I would be, at least it’s a freaking choice,” she said. Poster Comment: Suffering from cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome? Suggested treatment? Medical marijuana….ya think?
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#20. To: Gatlin (#19)
For the same reason his counterparts, (D)'s are more pro drug than (R)'s... to cause dependency upon the sheeple. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Do you ever stop lying, either of you two assclowns? The government does NOT own your body. Free citizens should have the right to decide for themselves. A GOVERNMENT THAT HAS THE POWER TO DICTATE WHAT DRUGS YOU MUST NOT TAKE IS A GOVERNMENT THAT HAS THE POWER TO DICTATE WHAT DRUGS YOU MUST TAKE. OMG - you're still pushing that discredited bag of malarkey? Marijuana Is Not, Repeat Not, a Gateway Drug US Attorney General Finally Admits Weed Isn’t a Gateway Drug — Prescription Pills Are Marijuana is not a gateway drug. People who have tried marijuana may eventually go on to try harder drugs in search of a stronger high, and experimentation may lead them down a dangerous path toward addiction. However, the science shows overwhelmingly that for most people marijuana is not a gateway drug. Many people mistakenly believe that marijuana use precedes rather than follows initiation of other illicit drug use. In fact, most drug use begins with alcohol and nicotine before marijuana, making nicotine and alcohol the two most common drugs of abuse. Evidence indicates marijuana is usually not the first substance abused before more dangerous illicit drug experimentation. A study published in the peer-reviewed Journal of School Health has concluded that the theory of a gateway drug is not associated with marijuana, but rather one of the most damaging and socially accepted drugs in the world, alcohol. The findings from this investigation support that alcohol should receive primary attention in abuse prevention programming, since the use of other substances could be impacted by delaying or preventing alcohol use. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/ending-addiction-good/201408/marijuana-the-gateway-drug-myth Major Study Destroys Drug War Fear Propaganda – As States Legalize Marijuana, Teen Use Plummets Not when I have to pay for the SHEEPS addictions via healthcare, prison and welfare debts. There is nothing "free" about addiction. I'm even now paying to keep these filthy shitbags alive with NARCAN... and these very expensive Vivitrol shots you bleeding hearts so love. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Fake news put out by those becoming millionaires by getting kids hooked on marijuana. Why do you bother to believe such shit …
For the same reason his counterparts, (D)'s are more pro drug than (R)'s... to cause dependency upon the sheeple. That makes sense. Also, marijuana can change the structure of sperm cells, deforming them. Studies show that the mental functions of people who have smoked a lot of marijuana tend to be diminished. The THC in cannabis disrupts nerve cells in the brain, affecting memory. Cannabis is one of the few drugs that causes abnormal cell division, which leads to severe hereditary defects. A pregnant woman who regularly smokes marijuana or hashish may give birth prematurely to an undersized, underweight baby. Over the last 10 years many children of marijuana users have been born with reduced initiative and lessened abilities to concentrate and pursue life goals. Studies also suggest that prenatal (before birth) use of the drug may result in birth defects, mental abnormalities and increased risk of leukemia (cancer of the bone marrow) in children. Deckard’s fanatically insane position of continually promoting the use of marijuana could be a “hereditary defect” caused by “prenatal use of marijuana” that resulted in his mental birth defect.
Free people have the right to decide which laws should be passed….they do not have the right to decide which laws to obey. People can make decisions on how their government should work. Magna Carta Common Sense: All people must follow the laws, and the laws should be enforced fairly. No one is above the law. Civilized people live in a social rule system as a way to formally approach different kinds of social rule systems in a unified manner. Our social rules system includes institutions such as norms, laws, regulations, taboos, customs, and a variety of related concepts and are important. You anarchists rebel against any authority, established order or ruling power. You can never fit into a civilized society where people live under a social rule system in a unified manner. You are indeed a bunch of sick puppies …
Bullshit! Cannabis is a drug. Research indicates that marijuana use is likely to precede use of other licit and illicit substances and the development of addiction to other substances. A study using longitudinal data from the National Epidemiological Study of Alcohol Use and Related Disorders found that adults who reported marijuana use during the first wave of the survey were more likely than adults who did not use marijuana to develop an alcohol use disorder within 3 years; people who used marijuana and already had an alcohol use disorder at the outset were at greater risk of their alcohol use disorder worsening. Marijuana use is also linked to other substance use disorders including nicotine addiction.
And the rampant idiocy continues unabated. Bullshit! More ill-informed opinion being spewed by the acolyte of Harry Anslinger. Psychology Today: Science shows overwhelmingly that marijuana is not a gateway drug. http://www.signature9.com/style/beauty/psychology-today-pulls-asinine-article- on-why-black-women-are-less-physically-attractive-than-other-women
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
More fake news promulgated by the millionaires who are increasing their fortunes at the expense of the youngsters knowing full well that marijuana has proven to be a gateway drug. It should come as no surprise to anyone that the vast majority of heroin users have used marijuana not only long before they used heroin but while they are using heroin. Like nearly all people with substance abuse problems, most heroin users initiated their drug use early in their teens, usually beginning with marijuana and alcohol. There is ample evidence that early initiation of marijuana use primes the brain for enhanced later responses to other drugs. The drug lords who work under the mask of legitimacy are dumbing down America by hooking youths on drugs beginning with marijuana as the gateway drug. You should be ashamed that you are complicit in assisting these drug pins in their mission but then you have demonstrated numerous time that you are not….always shouting DRUGS, DRUGS, DRUGS for everyone who wants them, regardless of the consequences.
And the rampant idiocy continues unabated. Yes it does, unfortunately. Your millionaire drug lords are the cause of so much suffering and despair. It is their mission in life to feed the habits of those they have caused to become addicted with the uncontrollable cravings for marijuana and illicit drugs. They create new drug habits in those who are not informed about the terrible dangers of the drugs and laugh all the way to the bank. They do it for one reason. They do it solely for the money….misery money, an income from the devastation of lives. They, like you , may see the horrors these drugs cause, but the drug pins push off the guilt when they hold cash in their hands. Your only satisfaction is that you can continue to live in blissful ignorance as lives are ruined forever. Sooner or later though, you need to stop your wayward ways to figured out that you’re helping to kill people….some of whom no doubt are your friends.
I have never heard Hillary say that smoking marijuana is dumbing down America as I have and neither have you. She has never said that marijuana is causing American to become more and more dysfunctional….I have. Hillary has never said that it is high time to stop and recognize the Marijuana problem….I continually do that. So, tell me exactly how I sound like Hillary! It is high time to conclude that there is now sufficient evidence to warn people of the dangers when using marijuana. ISIS doesn’t need to continue with their effort to destroy America. The millionaire drug pins and those who promote the use of marijuana and other illicit drugs are destroying America for them.
Stop lying asshole. No one gets "hooked" on marijuana. People get hooked on heroin, alcohol, nicotine and painkillers. Marijuana is actually LESS addictive than coffee. They create new drug habits in those who are not informed about the terrible dangers of the drugs and laugh all the way to the bank. They do it for one reason. They do it solely for the money Not my drug lords - yours. How the CIA Turned Us onto LSD and Heroin: Secrets of America's War on Drugs The CIA, Afghanistan’s Poppy Fields and America’s Growing Heroin Epidemic CIA Fueling New U.S. Drug Epidemic Using Cheap Afghani Heroin More fake news promulgated by the millionaires who are increasing their fortunes at the expense of the youngsters knowing full well that marijuana has proven to be a gateway drug. Psychology Today is "fake news" and is profiting from marijuana? Take a look at the ads in there sometime Bubba - you won't see any for reefer. Like nearly all people with substance abuse problems, most heroin users initiated their drug use early in their teens, usually beginning with marijuana and alcohol. Actual science, not ill informed opinion has proven otherwise. We don’t know a great deal about the health effects of using marijuana through “actual science” since there haven’t been any long term controlled studies on it, due to the way marijuana is classified by the federal government. The Food and Drug Administration still classifies marijuana as a Schedule I drug, defined as the most dangerous of all drug schedules for good reasons, with “no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse.” As such, to do clinical research with marijuana, you need a license from the DEA and your study approved by the FDA, and to obtain research-grade marijuana, you have to go through the National Institute on Drug Abuse, Short term experiments under the supervision of people desperate to support the legalization and use of marijuana and your use of anecdotal personal experiences along with a few biased isolated examples instead of a sound argument or compelling evidence is misleading information. Quantitative long term scientific measures are almost always more accurate than personal perceptions and experiences, but your inclination is to believe that which is tangible to you and/or the word of someone over a more 'abstract' statistical reality is true evidence of your despotic obsession with marijuana.
Au contrair, mon ami. As the lap dog for the marijuana regime, you are again barking up the wrong tree entirely. It is not I who prays at the altar of cannabis and worships weed…it is you. Just read about how our fellow reefers worship in the church of cannabis. You may now shout out….AMEN, reefer brothers and sisters.
Pure unsupported speculation. Just 3 more of your hilariously ridiculous pieces of promotional marijuana propaganda. I have seen data that show somewhere between four and nine percent of regular marijuana users are likely to develop dependency problems, and I have learned it’s true that a good number of marijuana users later avail themselves of professional help. The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) reported that 957,000 people age 12 and over sought treatment for marijuana in 2012 Why do you continue to promote the use of this vile putrid shit….WHY?
So, you now finally admit that marijuana is actually addictive and your supporting argument for the use of this addictive marijuana substance is that it is LESS addictive than coffee. I am going to ask you a logical reasoning question that will tax your ability to analyze and critically evaluate your arguments to support the use of addictive marijuana. The question is: Why does anyone want to use something that is addictive and harmful to their health….then stupidly support their fallacy and try to justify it by simply saying that it is less addictive than something else? Addiction is a big problem when something that can be temporarily pleasurable but the continuation of which becomes compulsive and interferes with ordinary responsibility and concerns, such as work, relationships and health . Those who develop an addiction may not even be aware of that their behavior is out of control and causing problems for themselves and others. I ask you again: Why does anyone want to use anything that is addictive and harmful to their health? Experts have long debated whether addiction is a disease or a true mental illness. I go with the latter….how about you?
We don’t know a great deal about the health effects of using marijuana through “actual science” Actual science has proved that marijuana is NOT a "gateway drug", your long-winded whining to the contrary. Which was the original argument you attempted to make. As far as research - Big Pharma, as well as ignorant apologists and cheerleaders like you along with your enforcers in fed.gov have effectively put the kibosh on that. Pure unsupported speculation. You're naive beyond comprehension. Oh wait - I forgot. fed.gov is god to you, they would never deliberately drug unsuspecting American citizens and soldiers, right? You poor, deluded, ignorant little sheep. Do some fricking research and wake the hell up! So, you now finally admit that marijuana is actually addictive LESS so than coffee. You want to criminalize caffeine next ass-clown? Actual science, not ill informed opinion has proven otherwise. History is the best proof of all when looking at drug addiction from an evolutionary perspective so that we may understand its underlying significance and evaluate its nature. In such an investigation, it is important hat we gain the basic understanding as to the historical implications of ancient psychotropic substance use in altering mammalian brains. Doing this will greatly assist in assessing the complex causes and detrimental effects of drug addiction in our modern-day context. To do this, we can better move towards a clearer understanding to reach a more effective treatment and early prevention….that is to say, treat the root of the issue rather than the symptoms. So, it is the duty of scientists to fully explore the historical evolutionary basis and early origins of marijuana and drug addictions before they can uncover the underlying causes of the global addiction problem….rather than solely focus on the physiological signs as they are now doing. You of course do agree with this….right? We must examine the distribution of natural drugs and the addiction to them in a historical ancestral environment. Drug use and addiction have long been a part of society since early times. Researchers have provided evidence and shown reason that the evolution of mammalian brains and psychotropic plants can be related to each other….definitely connected by ancient drug use. Proving throughout history that the abuse of drugs inevitably have caused long-term complications. Drug addiction is extremely detrimental for all individuals….not only because of the many varied health problems it causes, but also since it abolishes the negative emotions which in turn shuts off basic defense mechanisms against potential threats. You should really concern yourself more with preventing addiction to marijuana and other drugs rather than with your continued unbridled advocacy for the unrestricted use of addictive marijuana and other drugs….don’t you think so?
Ask yourself that while you are drinking a beer. When are you staring your jihad against coffee, nicotine or alcohol? After all, they are ALL more addictive than reefer. You just can't stop making a fool out of yourself, can you hypocrite? Diet Coke is more addictive than pot. I told you before to stop lying asshole. So, you now finally admit that marijuana is actually addictive LESS so than coffee. You want to criminalize caffeine next ass-clown? The enactment of restrictive caffeine laws can in no way be associated with the increased rates of problematic cannabis use. No consideration should ever be given until such time as there are perhaps consistent and numerous papers reporting an uptick in youth caffeine use or abuse. Why are your arguments so illogical and ridiculous?
Is this all you can counter with? “Sad!”
Ask yourself that while you are drinking a beer. That is impossible for me to do since I do not consume alcoholic beverages. Now, you answer the question: Why does anyone want to use anything that is addictive and harmful to their health?
… coffee, nicotine or alcohol? After all, they are ALL more addictive than reefer. Just because something is less addictive that something else…that makes it okay to become addicted to it? Wow! That is some kind of fallacy rationalization you are using as a defense mechanism for your controversial behavior to justify your feelings and try seemingly to explain in an illogical manner something you must avoid providing a true explanation to.
Sure, you never have. Why does anyone want to use anything that is addictive and harmful to their health? Their choice - you're not the arbiter of what choices individual FREE citizens make, as much as you delusionally believe you are. Research shows that about one in six people who start using marijuana in their teens, and 25 to 50 percent of those who use it every day, become addicted. Long- term marijuana users trying to quit report withdrawal symptoms including irritability, sleeplessness, decreased appetite, anxiety, and drug craving, all of which can make it difficult to abstain. That is a stupid irrational question. A more logical question is: Why don’t you start a help program for those addicted to marijuana instead of continually promoting the use of marijuana so that even more people will become addicted to it?
Once again for the learning impaired - the addictive effects of cannabis are negligible - less so than even caffeine. When are you starting your crusade against coffee and Diet Coke? You don't get addicted to either caffeine or cannabis. Heroin, painkillers, alcohol, nicotine - yes. I'm waiting for you to go full-blown Anslinger/Reefer Madness on the thread and say that cannabis causes people to listen to jazz music: Most marijuana smokers are colored people, jazz musicians, and entertainers. Their satanic music is driven by marijuana, and marijuana smoking by white women makes them want to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and others. It is a drug that causes insanity, criminality, and death — the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind. Yeah - that sounds like something you'd agree with and embrace. It's becoming amusing here watching you post your Reefer Madness bullshit and countering your ignorance with facts. Their choice - you're not the arbiter of what choices individual FREE citizens make, as much as you delusionally believe you are. So if your best friend stands next to you with a gun pointed at his head while telling you that he is now going to commit suicide…you say: “It’s his choice – I’m not the arbiter of what choices an individual FREE citizen makes, so he can do what he will. How about it? If I know someone who is addicted to marijuana and is destroying their life….then I am suppose to think it’s “their choice” as an individual FREE citizen and ignore them? Is that what you are saying?
Are you really such an evil person that you truly do find that amusing?
Then why are there so many inpatient rehab treatment centers for marijuana addiction where marijuana addicts recovery is something they do not have to try to face alone? There numerous rehab problems constantly addressed to help these marijuana addicts. Surely you are aware there are such inpatient rehab treatment centers operating for marijuana addiction.
Most marijuana smokers are colored people, jazz musicians, and entertainers. Their satanic music is driven by marijuana, and marijuana smoking by white women makes them want to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and others. It is a drug that causes insanity, criminality, and death — the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind. Yeah - that sounds like something you'd agree with and embrace. Please try to stay on point….PLEASE.
Equating marijuana use to that ridiculous scenario is just, well...ridiculous.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestI simply cannot understand why Deckard wants to promote drug use and addiction.
#21. To: GrandIsland, gATSLIME (#18)
DickTard loves the sheep living in servitude to a drug...
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#22. To: Gatlin (#19)
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marijuana has proven to be a gateway drug.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#23. To: Deckard (#21)
Free citizens should have the right to decide for themselves.
#24. To: Deckard (#22)
Major Study Destroys Drug War Fear Propaganda – As States Legalize Marijuana, Teen Use Plummets
#25. To: GrandIsland (#20)
I simply cannot understand why Deckard wants to promote drug use and addiction.
#26. To: Deckard, GrendIsland (#21)
Free citizens should have the right to decide for themselves.
#27. To: Deckard (#22)
Marijuana is not a gateway drug.
#28. To: Gatlin (#24)
...getting kids hooked on marijuana.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#29. To: Gatlin (#27)
Marijuana is not a gateway drug.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#30. To: All (#29)
#31. To: Deckard (#29)
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Psychology Today: Science shows overwhelmingly that marijuana is not a gateway drug.
#32. To: Deckard (#28)
...getting kids hooked on marijuana.
#33. To: Deckard (#16)
More and more, with each post he makes, the Major sounds like Hillary.
#34. To: Gatlin (#31)
….always shouting DRUGS, DRUGS, DRUGS for everyone who wants them, regardless of the consequences.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#35. To: Gatlin (#32)
...getting kids hooked on marijuana.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#36. To: Gatlin (#32)
Your millionaire drug lords are the cause of so much suffering and despair.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#37. To: Gatlin (#31)
Psychology Today: Science shows overwhelmingly that marijuana is not a gateway drug.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#38. To: Deckard (#37)
Actual science ...,
#39. To: Deckard (#36)
Not my drug lords - yours.
igh hopes: members of the congregation in the Church of Cannabis. Photograph: Ryan David Brown. As the service begins we are encouraged to get to know each other: people spark up joints and pass them around. Long wisps of smoke float to the ceiling and cover the congregation in a flowery shroud; splutterings of coughs and giggles, the sharp intake of breath on all sides. There are about 30 of us in all, a mixed bag of misfits ranging from a self-proclaimed pothead granny, whose eyes appear to move independently of each other, to a couple of Harold & Kumar wannabies taking selfies at the altar. And then there’s Lee: a former Bible quiz champion, raised in a strict evangelical Christian home, he has the credentials of a preacher if not the look: bushy hipster beard and long messy hair, dark bags under his eyes and the whiff of old smoke on his shirt. It feels more like the start of an AA meeting than a spiritual encounter.
#40. To: Deckard (#22)
How the CIA Turned Us onto LSD and Heroin: Secrets of America's War on Drugs
The CIA, Afghanistan’s Poppy Fields and America’s Growing Heroin Epidemic
CIA Fueling New U.S. Drug Epidemic Using Cheap Afghani Heroin
#41. To: Deckard (#35)
Marijuana is actually LESS addictive than coffee.
#42. To: Gatlin (#38)
Actual science ...,
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#43. To: Gatlin (#40)
How the CIA Turned Us onto LSD and Heroin: Secrets of America's War on Drugs The CIA, Afghanistan’s Poppy Fields and America’s Growing Heroin Epidemic CIA Fueling New U.S. Drug Epidemic Using Cheap Afghani Heroin
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#44. To: Gatlin (#41)
Marijuana is actually LESS addictive than coffee.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#45. To: Deckard (#37)
Like nearly all people with substance abuse problems, most heroin users initiated their drug use early in their teens, usually beginning with marijuana and alcohol.
#46. To: Gatlin (#41)
Why does anyone want to use anything that is addictive and harmful to their health?
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#47. To: Gatlin (#41)
addictive marijuana.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#48. To: Gatlin (#39)
It is not I who prays at the altar of cannabis and worships weed…it is you.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#49. To: Deckard (#44)
Marijuana is actually LESS addictive than coffee.
#50. To: Deckard (#48)
#51. To: Deckard (#46)
Why does anyone want to use anything that is addictive and harmful to their health?
#52. To: Deckard (#47)
addictive marijuana.
#53. To: Gatlin (#51)
That is impossible for me to do since I do not consume alcoholic beverages.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#54. To: Deckard (#47)
When are you staring your jihad against coffee, nicotine or alcohol?
#55. To: Gatlin (#52)
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Just because something is less addictive that something else…that makes it okay to become addicted to it?
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#56. To: Deckard (#53)
Why does anyone want to use anything that is addictive and harmful to their health?
#57. To: Deckard (#55)
It's becoming amusing …
It is utterly strange that you find it amusing when someone expresses an affinity and shows sympathy for people needing help to overcome an addiction to marijuana.
#58. To: Deckard (#55)
You don't get addicted to cannabis.
#59. To: Deckard (#55)
I'm waiting for you to go full-blown Anslinger/Reefer Madness on the thread and say that cannabis causes people to listen to jazz music:
#60. To: Gatlin (#56)
So if your best friend stands next to you with a gun pointed at his head while telling you that he is now going to commit suicide…you say:
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
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