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Title: The Two Shall Become One Flesh
Source: First Things
URL Source: https://www.firstthings.com/article ... ne-flesh-reclaiming-marriage-2
Published: Feb 26, 2015
Author: Evangelicals & Catholics Together
Post Date: 2015-02-26 22:04:36 by redleghunter
Ping List: *Religious History and Issues*     Subscribe to *Religious History and Issues*
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In the Gospel of St. Mark, the Lord Jesus teaches that “from the beginning of creation ‘God made them male and female.’” He then declares a great and beautiful truth inscribed in creation: “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. So they are no longer two but one flesh” (Mark 10:6–8).

For centuries, Christians have proclaimed these words at weddings, for they express the gift of marriage long recognized by all humanity and acknowledged by men and women of faith: Marriage is the union of a man and a woman. This truth is being obscured, even denied, today. Because of that, the institution of marriage, which is essential to the well-being of society, is being undermined.

As Christians, it is our responsibility to bear witness to the truth about marriage as taught by both revelation and reason—by the Holy Scriptures and by the truths inscribed on the human heart. These age-old truths explain why Christians celebrate ­marriage—the coming-together of a man and woman in a binding union of mutual support—as one of the glories of the human race. Marriage is the primordial human institution, a reality that existed long before the establishment of what we now know as the state.

As the most venerable and reliable basis for domestic happiness, marriage is the foundation of a just and stable society. Yet in our times this institution has been gravely weakened by the sexual revolution and the damage it has done to marriage and the family: widespread divorce; the dramatic increase in out-of-wedlock births; the casual acceptance of premarital sex and cohabitation; and a contraceptive mentality which insists that sex has an arbitrary relation to procreation. In this environment, families fragment, the poor suffer, and children are especially vulnerable and at risk. The decline of marriage culture is evident throughout the world, and where it is evident, the common good is imperiled.

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God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. And God blessed them and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply.” (Gen. 1:27–28) Subscribe to *Religious History and Issues*

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#44. To: redleghunter (#0)

God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him;

I believe the diametrically opposing viewpoint. Man created God in his own image.

Pridie.Nones  posted on  2015-03-01   13:31:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Pridie.Nones (#44)

I believe the diametrically opposing viewpoint. Man created God in his own image.

Allow me to correct the thought a bit.

Man creates his own god each day in his own mind and then uses his own hands to mold the idol of his passions.

It has been the pagan hedonist way since the fall of man.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-01   13:44:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: redleghunter (#45)

It has been the pagan hedonist way since the fall of man.

All traditional religions (and followers therof) are victim of the same caricature; you can not escape the conundrum, no matter how much effort you place in escaping the enigmatic experience of consciousness; you are creating god within your own mind.

Pridie.Nones  posted on  2015-03-01   13:57:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Pridie.Nones (#48)

All traditional religions (and followers therof) are victim of the same caricature; you can not escape the conundrum, no matter how much effort you place in escaping the enigmatic experience of consciousness; you are creating god within your own mind.

A presupposition on your part.

The Scriptures are God's revelation to mankind. Unless you have examined such your comments will continue to be suppositions and assertions.

Assertions are not arguments.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-01   14:03:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: redleghunter (#49)

Just as your Bible is nothing more than an "assertion." You regard the assertion as "truth." But there is no proof other than a myth that you genuinely follow; it is a problem but you hide from within your own antics.

Pridie.Nones  posted on  2015-03-01   14:08:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Pridie.Nones (#51)

Proof is subjective.

Evidence is objective.

That just may be a stumbling block for you.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-01   17:51:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: redleghunter (#54)

I said this:

Just as your Bible is nothing more than an "assertion." You regard the assertion as "truth." But there is no proof other than a myth that you genuinely follow; it is a problem but you hide from within your own antics.

You said that:

Proof is subjective.

Evidence is objective.

That just may be a stumbling block for you.

So lets parse what I said to understand the context... Just as your Bible is nothing more than an "assertion." You regard the assertion as "truth." But there is no proof other than a myth that you genuinely follow;

Did you not know what a "myth" is? Lets get a merriam-webster definition of "myth" ...

Full Definition of MYTH

1 a : a usually traditional story of ostensibly historical events that serves to unfold part of the world view of a people or explain a practice, belief, or natural phenomenon

b : parable, allegory

2 a : a popular belief or tradition that has grown up around something or someone; especially : one embodying the ideals and institutions of a society or segment of society

b : an unfounded or false notion

3 : a person or thing having only an imaginary or unverifiable existence

4 : the whole body of myths

So, your later reply was silly, at best, as it did not add to the discussion. In fact, your later reply actually subdues any merits of your discussion while supporting my contention. You blew your own argument, I guess you can say.

Pridie.Nones  posted on  2015-03-02   20:12:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Pridie.Nones (#55)

No your premise is based on your subjective opinion.

Show me how the scriptures are myth.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-02   22:01:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: redleghunter (#56)

Genesis 1:1New International Version (NIV) The Beginning 1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

New International Version (NIV) Holy Bible, New International Version®, NIV® Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984, 2011 by Biblica, Inc.® Used by permission. All rights reserved worldwide.

Pridie.Nones  posted on  2015-03-02   22:14:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Pridie.Nones (#57)

What evidence are you providing in rebuttal to God?

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-02   22:23:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: redleghunter (#58)

As your "Bible" absolutely suggests, "NONE." It is a myth that is suggested in the Bible; afterwards, the myth is expanded beyond bound.

Pridie.Nones  posted on  2015-03-02   22:27:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Pridie.Nones (#59)

Still not presenting evidence to refute. Come on there are hundreds of Muslim and atheist sites with specious assertions you could mimic here. Give it a try.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-02   23:07:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#73. To: redleghunter (#60)

Still not presenting evidence to refute.

I haven't attempted to refute anything.

Come on there are hundreds of Muslim and atheist sites with specious assertions you could mimic here. Give it a try.

Why should I bother with your recommendations? I am not attempting to suggest anything other than you have delusions in a religious or traditional GOD. I do not share your belief is all and you can't convince anyone that you have a rightous faith about GOD other than little, self-created devils running within you.

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