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Title: Shortfall in California’s Budget Swells to $16 Billion (Moonbeam says Obama blocking budget cuts)
Source: Infowars/NY Times
URL Source: http://www.infowars.com/shortfall-i ... s-budget-swells-to-16-billion/
Published: May 13, 2012
Author: ADAM NAGOURNEY
Post Date: 2012-05-13 19:44:25 by Hondo68
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Keywords: new spending cuts, reductions to schools health c, illegal aliens & slut supplies
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LOS ANGELES — The state budget shortfall in California has increased dramatically in the last six months, forcing state officials to assemble a series of new spending cuts that are likely to mean further reductions to schools, health care and other social programs already battered by nearly five years of budget retrenchment, state officials announced on Saturday.


Gov. Jerry Brown, disclosing the development in a video posted on YouTube, said that California’s shortfall was now projected to be $16 billion, up from $9.2 billion in January. Mr. Brown said that he would propose a revised budget on Monday to deal with it.

“We are now facing a $16 billion hole, not the $9 billion we thought in January,” Mr. Brown said. “This means we will have to go much further and make cuts far greater than I asked for at the beginning of the year.”

Mr. Brown disclosed the news in a video that had all the trappings of a campaign announcement. In it, he aggressively accounted for the steps he said he had taken to try to scale back a $26 billion deficit he found upon taking office. And he urged viewers to back an initiative he is putting on the November ballot that would increase sales taxes by 0.25 percent and impose an income tax surcharge on wealthy Californians to try to stave off more cuts.

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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)

How is it possible that the state hires "the best and brightest minds" to forecast these issues and then performs major retractions, revising so-called "shortfalls" not by a few million bucks by by BILLIONS in such a short period of time?

Don't vote for these muther-fuckers. (yep: i know it is mother's day)

buckeroo  posted on  2012-05-13   19:52:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: hondo68 (#0)

Who would have ever thought that taxing the hell out of the productive people so the parasites could live comfortably without working would come to financial disaster?

Especially with the productive taxpaying citizens leaving the state in droves while the state continues to not only support the parasites in style,but even invite more parasites in from foreign countries?

What could have possibly gone wrong?

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-13   23:16:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: sneakypete (#2)

$16 Billion is peanuts.

California's in better shape than 90% of the OECD.

Just secede from the Failed States of Amerika and become the 6th largest Economy in the World.

Ex. How can the Racist Israelis Field the 4th Largest Military in the World.

Expecting Silence.....crickets gently chirping....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   9:11:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: mcgowanjm (#3)

How can the Racist Israelis Field the 4th Largest Military in the World.

With MY money.

We The People  posted on  2012-05-14   9:21:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: mcgowanjm (#3)

Ex. How can the Racist Israelis Field the 4th Largest Military in the World.

Because they don't have to pay for it.

But I don't really give a rabid rats ass about Israel. What I want to know is how are WE going to continue to keep the military industrial complex humming away making record profits when there is no money there to pay them?

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   9:26:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: sneakypete (#5)

Ex. How can the Racist Israelis Field the 4th Largest Military in the World.

Because they don't have to pay for it.

But I don't really give a rabid rats ass about Israel.

t makes no sense because you DO care about USSA gov't spending and we spend in 5 hours on Israel and War what we spend in 5 years on our Health Care.

Israel is our 51st State and doesn't pay ANY taxes.

Why don't ANY other states get the same deal? ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   9:44:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: We The People, sneakypete, All (#4)

How can the Racist Israelis Field the 4th Largest Military in the World.

With MY money.

And thank you....';}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   9:45:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: sneakypete (#5)

What I want to know is how are WE going to continue to keep the military industrial complex humming away making record profits when there is no money there to pay them?

Our standard of living will approach that of the current 3rd World. This is inevitable now, its just a question of how long it will take to slide down and how the society will adjust to the new reality.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   9:48:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: All (#8)

To look at this whole post from a Fourth Turning perspective, how does this Turning differ from the American Revolution, the Civil War, and the Great Depression? In each of those prior Turnings our Society was accessing Greater Wealth and Power. After the American Revolution, we were accessing the vast Wealth of the North American Continent and all its Resources. After the Civil War, we were accessing the thermodynamic energy of Coal and beginning the Industrial Revolution. After the Great Depression and WWII, we were accessing the thermodynamic energy of Oil and growing into the Information Age. What is there left for us now to grow into after THIS Fourth Turning.

I put to you that we have nothing left to grow into now, and so we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plaguei (sic). Like the original Dark Ages, I think this period will last near a Millenia, and who we are and how we come out of this at the end is anybody’s guess.

We may never come out of it and go the way of the Dinosaur, that remains a possibility, but one I hope does not come to pass."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   9:49:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: All (#9)

For those of us who lived through the Age of Oil in the Industrialized Nations, even if you were relatively Poor you got quite a ride. It was however a One Time ride that only a select portion of Humanity got to really enjoy, and it is now passing into History.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   9:50:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: All (#10)

Noting that California has ZERO military and yet is poorer than Israel:

"Long tails are a mathematical clue that a different kind of behavior may be at play, one that physicists have long been fascinated by. When data follow what is called a power law distribution, the outlandish data points that generate the tail aren’t aberrant freaks; they fit right in."

May 13, 2012

Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak is headed to Washington DC on Monday, with plans for him and his US counterpart Leon Panetta to officially announce $680 million in additional US military aid to Israel.

The Pentagon initially cooked up this most recent plan to increase aid to Israel, pushing for the House Armed Services Committee to authorize the funding for the "Iron Dome" missile defense program in late March. The committee quickly did so.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   9:53:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: mcgowanjm, *Extended Clip Progressives* (#11) (Edited)

Noting that California has ZERO military

We have the Cal National Guard and lots of SWAT teams and Jack Booted Thug agencies with goon squads. CHP even went to New Orleans to tackle grandma and take her revolver.

Oakland frequently resembles a war zone, and mayor Jean Quan bears a striking resemblance to Chairman Mao.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-05-14   10:11:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: hondo68 (#12)

We have the Cal National Guard and lots of SWAT teams and Jack Booted Thug agencies with goon squads. CHP even went to New Orleans to tackle grandma and take her revolver.

Oakland frequently resembles a war zone, and mayor Jean Quan bears a striking resemblance to Chairman Mao.

And you think that's military?

The afghans/palestinian/syrian/Yemeni's battle MI Abrams Battle Tanks/drone-hellfire missiles/Cobra attack helos/Spec Ops Night Raids.....LMFAO

When California gets 75% of that....let me know....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-14   10:31:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: buckeroo (#1)

How is it possible that the state hires "the best and brightest minds" to forecast these issues and then performs major retractions, revising so-called "shortfalls" not by a few million bucks by by BILLIONS in such a short period of time?

Economics is a social science, it's about human behavior. There are far too many variables to make accurate prediction possible, the best economists can do is make an educated guess.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   11:04:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: sneakypete (#2)

Especially with the productive taxpaying citizens leaving the state in droves while the state continues to not only support the parasites in style,but even invite more parasites in from foreign countries?

I suppose that makes you feel better in some twisted way, but it is totally delusional.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   11:06:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: lucysmom (#14)

I should have been an economist where being wrong lots of times is the norm. I used to do forecasting years ago, with manpower, and we were pretty dang accurate.

Hi! I had some connectivity problems and was out of sight for a while. Good to see you.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-05-14   11:09:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: mcgowanjm (#9)

I put to you that we have nothing left to grow into now, and so we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plaguei (sic). Like the original Dark Ages, I think this period will last near a Millenia, and who we are and how we come out of this at the end is anybody’s guess.

Isn't that what the Mayan calender predicts?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   11:10:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Fred Mertz (#16)

I should have been an economist where being wrong lots of times is the norm. I used to do forecasting years ago, with manpower, and we were pretty dang accurate.

Hi! I had some connectivity problems and was out of sight for a while. Good to see you.

You were missed. Glad to see you back.

With manpower the agency?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   11:14:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: lucysmom, sneakypete (#15)

Especially with the productive taxpaying citizens leaving the state in droves while the state continues to not only support the parasites in style,but even invite more parasites in from foreign countries?

I suppose that makes you feel better in some twisted way, but it is totally delusional.

I suppose that makes you feel better in some twisted way, but it is totally delusional because............................?

We The People  posted on  2012-05-14   11:16:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: lucysmom (#18)

With manpower the agency?

No, Army manpower - gains, losses, promotions and all that. I did a stint in the Pentagon years ago.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-05-14   11:21:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: mcgowanjm (#6)

makes no sense because you DO care about USSA gov't spending and we spend in 5 hours on Israel and War what we spend in 5 years on our Health Care.

That's not Israel's fault. They would be foolish to not take the free money we give them.

It's our own fault and the fault of the politicians we elect for giving it to them. Not to mention Egypt,Africa,etc,etc,etc.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   11:31:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: mcgowanjm (#8)

Our standard of living will approach that of the current 3rd World. This is inevitable now, its just a question of how long it will take to slide down and how the society will adjust to the new reality.

Sadly,I am in complete agreement with the above.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   11:32:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Fred Mertz (#20)

No, Army manpower - gains, losses, promotions and all that. I did a stint in the Pentagon years ago.

That must have been an interesting job.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   11:35:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: mcgowanjm, hondo68 (#13)

And you think that's military?

You are missing the point,which is that the SWAT and other jack-booted thugs with badges think THEY are the military. That's why these dweebs call us "civilians"

This misconception needs to be corrected immediately.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   11:36:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: sneakypete (#21)

That's not Israel's fault. They would be foolish to not take the free money we give them.

I wonder how much money Israel spends lobbying for "free money".

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   11:37:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: lucysmom (#15)

I suppose that makes you feel better in some twisted way, but it is totally delusional.

Have you tried to explain this to my brother in San Jose,who has had government housing built across the street from his house that is filled with people who barely speak English or don't speak it at all?

I'm pretty sure he would be happy to talk with you about the level of violence,theft,and other crimes now happening in the neighborhood that he grew up in 50 years ago.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   11:40:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: lucysmom (#17)

I put to you that we have nothing left to grow into now, and so we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plaguei (sic). Like the original Dark Ages, I think this period will last near a Millenia, and who we are and how we come out of this at the end is anybody’s guess. Isn't that what the Mayan calender predicts?

PLEASE tell me you are kidding. This is out there. Even for you.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   11:41:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: lucysmom (#25)

I wonder how much money Israel spends lobbying for "free money".

I don't know,but given all the dual citizenship people in this country that are prominent and have influence,I suspect they spend very little.

All they have to do anytime their gravy train is threatened is to play the "Anti- Semite/You Nazi!" card and things are all-well again.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   11:49:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: lucysmom, sneakypete (#15)

sneakypete: Especially with the productive taxpaying citizens leaving the state in droves while the state continues to not only support the parasites in style,but even invite more parasites in from foreign countries?

Loonyming: I suppose that makes you feel better in some twisted way, but it is totally delusional.

Hardly. Sneaky is telling it like it is.

Keep 'brandishing your ignorance,' loon. Whenever I need a good laugh, I just look at your latest posts.


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A chicken in every pot!
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Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   11:56:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: sneakypete (#26)

Have you tried to explain this to my brother in San Jose,who has had government housing built across the street from his house that is filled with people who barely speak English or don't speak it at all?

I'm pretty sure he would be happy to talk with you about the level of violence,theft,and other crimes now happening in the neighborhood that he grew up in 50 years ago.

If your brother thinks San Jose is bad

As of 2009, the city had the second lowest violent crime rate of any city with 500,000 or more residents, second only to Honolulu.[57] However in 2011, homicides have surged surpassing 2010's number of homicides which was 20 and in 2011 was 39.[61] Wikipedia

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   11:57:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: sneakypete (#27)

PLEASE tell me you are kidding. This is out there. Even for you.

You haven't heard about the Mayan calender predictions? I didn't make it up, I didn't even say I believed it.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   12:00:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Capitalist Eric (#29)

Hardly. Sneaky is telling it like it is.

Your response to life is far to emotional to be rational.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   12:04:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: lucysmom, Sneakypete (#30)

If your brother thinks San Jose is bad

I wonder who else Sneaky thinks will pick all that produce or cheaply clean the offices of the computer moguls.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-14   12:07:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: hondo68 (#0)

forcing state officials to assemble a series of new spending cuts that are likely to mean further reductions to schools, health care and other social programs

The first thing that they need to cut is the lavish pension programs for government bureaucrats.


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-05-14   12:12:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: lucysmom (#30)

If your brother thinks San Jose is bad

Well,since it is the only place he has ever lived and that house is the one he grew up in,it's all he has to use for a reference point.

It sure ain't East St.Louis,though.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   12:15:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: lucysmom (#31)

You haven't heard about the Mayan calender predictions?

Yeah,but I consider them to be HorseHillary from start to finish.

The calendars were and are pretty impressive.

I can't say that about the predictions,though. If they were worth a damn at predicting,they would have been waiting to ambush the Spanish on the beach when they landed.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   12:18:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Fred Mertz (#16)

I should have been an economist where being wrong lots of times is the norm. I used to do forecasting years ago, with manpower, and we were pretty dang accurate.

Most big companies created annual budgets, do quarterly forecasts, and report on monthly actuals.

If the forecasts doesn't align with the budget or the actuals don't align with the forecast, companies do something about it (cut planned spending).

Companies don't wait two, three, or five years to do something about a problem.

The problem is that politicians don't like to cut spending, because this is how they buy votes to stay in power.


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-05-14   12:19:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: mininggold (#33)

I wonder who else Sneaky thinks will pick all that produce or cheaply clean the offices of the computer moguls.

Welfare parasites once their "Free money" and housing are cut off.

Not to mention the three city workers you see leaning on shovels at city work projects while one guy with a shovel does all the work.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   12:20:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: mininggold (#33)

I wonder who else Sneaky thinks will pick all that produce or cheaply clean the offices of the computer moguls.

Certainly not Americans, they won't work for wages that puts them in the food stamp line.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   12:20:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: jwpegler (#37)

Companies don't wait two, three, or five years to do something about a problem.

Governments and companies exist for very different purposes.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   12:22:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: sneakypete (#38)

Welfare parasites once their "Free money" and housing are cut off.

Not to mention the three city workers you see leaning on shovels at city work projects while one guy with a shovel does all the work.

Those free marketeers need to think a little further down the road then.

Your second statement indicates you need to get our more, and stop watching the Cartoon Network.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-14   12:23:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: sneakypete (#38)

Not to mention the three city workers you see leaning on shovels at city work projects while one guy with a shovel does all the work.

Not nearly as costly as the free marketeers that crashed the world economy and then claimed bonuses.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   12:27:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: lucysmom (#40)

Governments and companies exist for very different purposes.

And the mixing of the two models has caused a lot of the problems we see now. Government depts were never meant to earn a profit. They were meant to supply a service.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-14   12:27:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: mcgowanjm (#6) (Edited)

we spend in 5 hours on Israel and War what we spend in 5 years on our Health Care.

You have your facts wrong, as usual.

Healthcare (Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP, FDA, etc) is the largest federal government expenditure. It's 25% of the federal budget this year. That doesn't even include what the States pay out in Medicaid.

Government pensions (Social Security and federal worker pensions) is the second largest budget item.

Defense is number 3.

Various welfare programs are number 4.


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-05-14   12:28:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: sneakypete, lucysmom (#36)

You haven't heard about the Mayan calender predictions?

Yeah,but I consider them to be HorseHillary from start to finish.

The calendars were and are pretty impressive.

I can't say that about the predictions,though. If they were worth a damn at predicting,they would have been waiting to ambush the Spanish on the beach when they landed.

It's an astronomical calendar.

It doesn't actually predict any event that isn't astrnomical, other than the end of the calendar cycle.

We The People  posted on  2012-05-14   12:30:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: mininggold (#43)

And the mixing of the two models has caused a lot of the problems we see now. Government depts were never meant to earn a profit. They were meant to supply a service.

George, the CEO president with an MBA, gave us the Iraq war that was supposed to pay for itself. That didn't work out any better than his cutting taxes to raise revenue and balance the budget.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   12:31:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: sneakypete (#27)

I put to you that we have nothing left to grow into now, and so we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plaguei (sic). Like the original Dark Ages, I think this period will last near a Millenia, and who we are and how we come out of this at the end is anybody’s guess. Isn't that what the Mayan calender predicts?

PLEASE tell me you are kidding. This is out there. Even for you.

Of course she is NOT kidding.

Mass murder is what leftists always do.

This is why they must be defeated, at all costs.


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-05-14   12:34:01 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: sneakypete (#38)

Welfare parasites once their "Free money" and housing are cut off.

Not to mention the three city workers you see leaning on shovels at city work projects while one guy with a shovel does all the work.

Exactly right.

The more I listen to these lazy shitheads, piss and moan about how unfair life is, the more I believe that we need to go cold turkey -- cut it all off, immediately.

Eliminate welfare. Fire government employees. Means test Social Security and Medicare. Done.

What will happen to these people? Will they just sit their and let themselves starve? NO, they will figure out a way to feed themselves, by getting a job or creating their own job.


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-05-14   12:38:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: mininggold, lucysmom, Sneakypete (#33)

If your brother thinks San Jose is bad

I wonder who else Sneaky thinks will pick all that produce or cheaply clean the offices of the computer moguls.

Typical libTURD whores.

First this hag quotes some gibberish at you about San Jose telling you in effect to believe her bullshit NOT your own or your brother's eyes! I mean hell's bells your brother has only LIVED there for decades while this hag couldn't find San Jose on a bet.

Then the other hag shows the world that she is both a FOOL and a raciest, (just your typical libTURD). There are no crops to pick in San Jose FOOL. Those steaming tenements filled with non-english speakers are PRESUMED by this hag to be janitors. That's raciest!

Typical stoooooooopid libTURD whores.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-14   12:39:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: jwpegler (#48)

What will happen to these people? Will they just sit their and let themselves starve? NO, they will figure out a way to feed themselves, by getting a job or creating their own job.

Of course, without government employees, crime could be an attractive alternative.

Maybe you should see how that's all working in Somalia before proposing it here - their free market, self supporting coast guard is particularly interesting.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   12:45:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: jwpegler (#48)

The more I listen to these lazy shitheads, piss and moan about how unfair life is...

No one pisses and moans about the unfairness of life more than a conservative, it can be read right here of LF every single day.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   12:47:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: lucysmom (#39)

Certainly not Americans, they won't work for wages that puts them in the food stamp line.

They will if you cut off the free ride they are getting now and their only option is to go hungry.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   12:49:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: lucysmom (#40)

Governments and companies exist for very different purposes.

That is less true now than it was,and less true than it will be tomorrow.

Thanks to Poppy Bush and his New World Order,and Bubba Bill and Tony Blair's "The Third Way", fascism is the wave of the (near) future.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   12:52:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: mininggold (#41)

Your second statement indicates you need to get our more, and stop watching the Cartoon Network.

Yeah,because you and your cell are MUCH more connected to reality and more observant than I am,right?

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   12:54:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: lucysmom, jwpegler (#51)

No one pisses and moans about the unfairness of life more than a conservative, it can be read right here of LF every single day.

You gibbering brain dead libTURD WHORE!

Put your money where your BIG FAT ASS is WHORE.

QUOTE ANY "CONSERVATIVE" on THIS site moaning about the "UNFAIRNESS of LIFE".

You CAN'T do it because as usual you gibbering bitch, you LIE.

I'll bet you $100.00 right now you simpering libTURD whore that you cannot find such a quote, (LOSER to pay Stone towards THIS site btw whore).

PUT UP OR SHUT UP WHORE.

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Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-14   12:55:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: lucysmom, mininggold (#42)

Not to mention the three city workers you see leaning on shovels at city work projects while one guy with a shovel does all the work. Not nearly as costly as the free marketeers that crashed the world economy and then claimed bonuses.

You and mining need to get together and compare notes. She says they don't exist.

Which makes me wonder if she works for a city government.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   12:56:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: We The People (#45)

It doesn't actually predict any event that isn't astrnomical, other than the end of the calendar cycle.

Somebody needs to explain this to teebee reporters and reporterettes,not me.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   12:57:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: sneakypete (#56)

Which makes me wonder if she works for a city government.

Retired government employees, probably school teachers.

Their entire Modus operandi is geared towards protecting their 6 figure taxpayer- financed pensions.


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-05-14   12:59:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: sneakypete (#56)

You and mining need to get together and compare notes. She says they don't exist.

We don't disagree.

I just think It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans and am therefore not making the effort.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   13:02:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: jwpegler (#48)

Eliminate welfare. Fire government employees. Means test Social Security and Medicare. Done.

Yup. And require the churches and other charities to actually start using at least 75 percent of their intake to provide the necessary services for the people truly in need,or start paying taxes on income and property.

What will happen to these people? Will they just sit their and let themselves starve? NO, they will figure out a way to feed themselves, by getting a job or creating their own job.

I agree. Almost all will be screaming bloody murder at first because welfare is all they have ever known and it has never even occurred to them they could provide for themselves,never mind flourish. Thanks to the Poverty Pimps that run their churches.

I think in the long run most will end up being grateful once they accept reality and discover they really CAN provide a better living for themselves and feel better about themselves if they work.

It would be a tough sell at first,though. We are talking about a problem now that is multi-generational,and we now have grandparents that have never had a job in their lives.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   13:03:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Mad Dog (#49)

There are no crops to pick in San Jose FOOL. Those steaming tenements filled with non-english speakers are PRESUMED by this hag to be janitors. That's raciest!

Which means those people would no longer be a problem because once you cut off all the "Free" stuff they have been getting they would just go back to where they came from.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   13:07:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: lucysmom, sneakypete (#32)

Your response to life is far to emotional to be rational.

I merely confirm what Sneaky said.

It is YOU who brings emotion into the picture.

BTW, I notice that you fail to provide any data to back up your claims. Indeed, data is something you never introduce, because the data would always prove you to be a liar.

"Without data, you're just another person with an opinion."


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   13:21:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: jwpegler, sneakypete, lucysmom (#47)

Loonyming: I put to you that we have nothing left to grow into now, and so we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plaguei (sic). Like the original Dark Ages, I think this period will last near a Millenia, and who we are and how we come out of this at the end is anybody’s guess. Isn't that what the Mayan calender predicts?

sneakypete: PLEASE tell me you are kidding. This is out there. Even for you.

Jw: Of course she is NOT kidding. Mass murder is what leftists always do. This is why they must be defeated, at all costs.

It deserves to be repeated.

It doesn't matter whether they lable themselves fascists, socialists, communists, democrats OR republicans... Total government control ALWAYS results in mountains of skulls.

It is clearly detailed in the article The Political Spectrum Con. The Leftism that loony adheres to is total government control. She (foolishly) believes that it will allow her to keep collecting "free" government checks.

loonybitch, Brian S and the rest of the big-government shills and parasites, will have you believe that government is our savior.

Government is the enemy.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   13:28:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: sneakypete (#61) (Edited)

Which means those people would no longer be a problem because once you cut off all the "Free" stuff they have been getting they would just go back to where they came from.

You can tell your ignorant Alaskan mutt buddy for me that there are plenty of vineyards around San Jose and Almaden.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-14   13:33:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: jwpegler (#48)

The more I listen to these lazy shitheads, piss and moan about how unfair life is, the more I believe that we need to go cold turkey -- cut it all off, immediately. Eliminate welfare. Fire government employees.

I suspect that is exactly what is going to happen.

One of the first victims will be loonyming.

Means test Social Security and Medicare.

There won't be any. Since the money was stolen, and merely a stack of IOUs left, when the government goes bust, these programs will be relegated to the ash-heaps of history.

What will happen to these people? Will they just sit their and let themselves starve? NO, they will figure out a way to feed themselves, by getting a job or creating their own job.

I think a lot of them will end up in FEMA camps (remember, the ones they said "don't exist?"). They'll go to the government for handouts, and end up in hand-cuffs. Those that don't, will try to steal from the better- prepared, and end up dead. The lazy will simply hold out for help that will not come in time, and they suffer terribly- many of them dying.

I believe that thin veneer of society is going to be wiped away rather quickly, as the harsh realities set in.

"What will happen to these people," you ask? They'll get strong and tough, or they'll die. Simple as that.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   13:36:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: mininggold (#64)

there are plenty of vineyards around San Jose and Almaden.

LMAO!!!

Talk about IGNORANT!!!!!!!!!!!


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   13:37:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Capitalist Eric (#66)

LMAO!!!

Talk about IGNORANT!!!!!!!!!!!

There's no vineyards up in the hills???

LMAO

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-14   13:39:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: jwpegler, sneakypete, lucysmom, mininggold, buckeroo (#58)

probably school teachers.

+1

The authoritarian moonbat communist propaganda, is a dead giveaway. The NEA and Correctional unions run Cali.

Whinymold I figure for jail or mental institution. Progressive JBT's.


Restraining and sedating Buckeroo


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-05-14   13:43:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: sneakypete (#57)

It doesn't actually predict any event that isn't astrnomical, other than the end of the calendar cycle.

Somebody needs to explain this to teebee reporters and reporterettes,not me.

Actually I was explaining this to lucysmom. She's the one that brought up the 'predictions'.

Sorry for the confusion.

We The People  posted on  2012-05-14   13:44:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: mininggold (#67)

There's no vineyards up in the hills??? LMAO

No, there isn't.

You're just pulling this out of your ass... and looking like a FOOL doing it!

I lived there for 10 years, and drove all OVER the valley....

An equally absurd claim would be to say that Orlando is the Snow-board capital of the world...

JEEZ.......... ((( *eyeball roll ))


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   13:46:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Capitalist Eric (#63)

She (foolishly) believes that it will allow her to keep collecting "free" government checks.

What free government checks?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   13:47:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Capitalist Eric (#70)

You're just pulling this out of your ass... and looking like a FOOL doing it!

I lived there for 10 years, and drove all OVER the valley....

An equally absurd claim would be to say that Orlando is the Snow-board capital of the world...

JEEZ.......... ((( *eyeball roll ))

Then how do wines originate from that area?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-14   13:49:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Capitalist Eric (#65) (Edited)

There won't be any. Since the money was stolen, and merely a stack of IOUs left, when the government goes bust, these programs will be relegated to the ash-heaps of history.

They'll outlaw gold (like Roosevelt), and then pay off Socialist Insecurity and MediFraud with funny money (like the Wiemar Republic).

When inflation wipes out what little savings that Americans actually have, we'll all be equally broke...

We'll be a regular socialist paradise!


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-05-14   13:50:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: lucysmom (#71) (Edited)

What free government checks?

The ones you said were "promised" to you.

Oh, yeah, that's right.... you think you PAID INTO the system, and that you want it back "with interest."

FEH.

You DEMAND the freebies, and you don't GAS about anything else.

NEWSFLASH: You're gonna' be very disappointed.

As I said to you before, you're a parasite, trying to suck blood out of ME and MY FAMILY... It's the "marriage made in Heaven," as far as you're concerned.
I'm filing for a divorce.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   13:50:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Capitalist Eric (#66)

there are plenty of vineyards around San Jose and Almaden.

LMAO!!!

Talk about IGNORANT!!!!!!!!!!!

www.fogartywinery.com/

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   13:51:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: All (#72)

Picchetti Ranch trail

Cupertino

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Picchetti Winery - We love their old historic buildings and peacocks wandering the grounds! Picchetti Winery features Chardonnay, Cabernet Sauvignon, Merlot, and more.

Ridge Vineyards - Located at the top of the Montebello Ridge. World class red wines, stunning views of Santa Clara Valley. Normally open only on Saturday and Sunday, and by appointment during the week.

Some of these wineries have restricted hours, or are not open to the public, except for special events. South Bay Wine Tours has special access to many wineries, with certain restrictions. (Restrictions may include up to 3 weeks advanced notice and a minimum/maximum # per group - please call for specific details on the wineries you are interested in)

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Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-14   13:52:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: lucysmom (#75)

www.fogartywinery.com/

Is in SANTA CRUZ.

Geography ain't your strength, IS it?

Hell, LOGIC ain't your strength, either!

LMAO.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   13:54:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Capitalist Eric (#70)

www.sanjose.org/content/wine-tasting

The Santa Cruz Mountains near San Jose were noted by Wine Spectator as the “the most underappreciated appellation in the world.” Below is a list of some ...

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-14   13:54:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: All (#78) (Edited)

So????

Do you think grapes for Napa wines are grown in the town of Napa?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-14   13:56:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Capitalist Eric (#70)

You're just pulling this out of your ass... and looking like a FOOL doing it!

I lived there for 10 years, and drove all OVER the valley....

You are the fool!

The Paul Masson Winery is a pretty popular local concert venue, I'm surprised you've never head of it.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   13:57:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Capitalist Eric (#74)

Oh, yeah, that's right.... you think you PAID INTO the system, and that you want it back "with interest."

That doesn't make the checks free, does it.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   14:00:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Mad Dog (#55) (Edited)

"UNFAIRNESS of LIFE".

You don't piss and moan about the "oppressive" government and liberals whose ideas you think have ruined the country? Both are here to stay and aren't going anywhere anytime soon. That's life..

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-05-14   14:00:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: mininggold (#76)

Picchetti Ranch trail ... Cupertino ... Naumann Vineyards - Naumann Estate Vineyards....

et al.

LOL.

You post the names of a bunch of tiny operations, and say "oh, there we are, San Jose is 'wine country.'"

Shit.

They have winery operations in Fresno, Idaho, Montana, North Dakota, Alaska, Florida, Nevada...... Pretty much EVERY state claims to have some winery.

Doesn't mean shit.

You'll have to do much better...


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   14:00:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: lucysmom (#80)

The Paul Masson Winery is a pretty popular local concert venue, I'm surprised you've never head of it.

I forgot Paul Masson, they've been around forever.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-14   14:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Capitalist Eric (#63)

It is clearly detailed in the article "The Political Spectrum Con".

38 views on that thread and only one comment.

And that was from some leftist who calls himself BorisY and as usual, makes absolutely no sense.

We The People  posted on  2012-05-14   14:02:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: lucysmom (#81)

That doesn't make the checks free, does it.

Were you making LEGIT claims on money paid, then the answer would be "no."

You don't just want what you paid in... you want to be paid in perpetuity. BIG difference.

Of course, were you smarter than a brick, you would have realized such ideas are absurd.

But you're one ignorant bitch, as you so proudly proclaim...


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   14:03:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Capitalist Eric (#83)

LOL.

You post the names of a bunch of tiny operations, and say "oh, there we are, San Jose is 'wine country.'"

Shit.

They have winery operations in Fresno, Idaho, Montana, North Dakota, Alaska, Florida, Nevada...... Pretty much EVERY state claims to have some winery.

Doesn't mean shit.

You'll have to do much better...

No one said that San Jose was wine country except you. It does contain a few appellations though.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-14   14:03:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: We The People (#85)

38 views on that thread and only one comment.

Indeed. It eviscerates the current thinking on the political spectrum, and leaves little to add...

A spectacular essay, in my opinion.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   14:04:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Capitalist Eric (#77)

Is in SANTA CRUZ.

What do you think those mountains you saw to the west during your 10-year stay in silicon valley are called?

Here's a map

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   14:05:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: lucysmom (#89)

What do you think those mountains you saw to the west during your 10-year stay in silicon valley are called?

The Los Altos Hills.

Thanks for playing.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   14:08:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Capitalist Eric (#86)

...you want to be paid in perpetuity.

I'm not immortal, you know.

Of course, were you smarter than a brick...

Careful! You're the guy who just claimed he knows for sure there are no vineyards in the mountain around silicon valley.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   14:12:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Capitalist Eric (#90)

The Los Altos Hills.

I know of two vineyards in Los Altos Hills.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   14:14:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: mininggold, sneakypete, Mad Dog (#87)

No one said that San Jose was wine country except you. It does contain a few appellations though.

You originally said (some post back in the 30's) "I wonder who else Sneaky thinks will pick all that produce and clean all those offices...?" Paraphrasing, here.

YOUR contention was that there is LOTS of produce to pick in the area Sneaky was referring to... namely, San Jose.

As to your idiotic idea, there isn't "all that produce" in San Jose; in reality, there's NONE to speak of. But of course, you knew that, and were just trying to distract from the main point of Sneaky, that's it's getting REALLY BAD there.

And to your second point- who will do the janitorial work- the answer is the same as any OTHER place in real life; entry-level LEGAL workers, instead of the illegal-alien-wetback scumbags who come here.

Mad dogs' assessment of you was right on the money; you ARE a fool.

Nothing new, there...


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   14:14:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: lucysmom, jwpegler, A K A Stone, hondo68, cz82, mad dog (#50) (Edited)

jwpegler: What will happen to these people? Will they just sit their and let themselves starve? NO, they will figure out a way to feed themselves, by getting a job or creating their own job.

Loonyming: Of course, without government employees, crime could be an attractive alternative.

My God...

Sometimes your idiocy is just... staggering.

You know what the difference is between the government and the Mafia?

The government has badges.

From HERE:

The US Government Is A Mafia Enterprise


By Karl W B Schwarz
1-9-12

Have you noticed that the US Government no longer seriously pursues cases involving Anti-Trust or RICO? Monopoly is now OK; premeditated criminal activity is OK, too. For all practical purposes stealing billions of dollars is OK and has happened many times over the past 20 years or so.

Can you envision how avoidance of anti-trust and RICO might be part of the same strategy?

How might one achieve that? Simply, get control of the government so prosecution is waived, laws are changed to legalize the criminal activity.

Have you ever wondered why they do nothing with white collar crime escalating to the point that the markets, banks, corporations and Congress are glaringly corrupt and engaged in unethical, immoral and illegal activity as 'business as usual'?

You see, Bernie Madoff made the mistake of stealing from the cabal members and had to go to prison. It really pissed off the cabal when a Jew steals from other cabal Jews. Corzine should be headed to prison but he only stole from normal citizens, not the cabal. His egregious actions at MF Global benefitted the criminal cabal. Get the distinction straight in your head because your financial future and quality of life is riding on it.

The only time they invoke anti-trust is when someone is stepping on the wrong toes with an attempted takeover. The only time they invoke RICO is when they wish to silence someone they do not like. They can, have and will apply the law backwards to protect their criminal enterprise.

For example, RICO has been applied to free speech and those pro-life people that picket abortion clinics. There is nothing inherently illegal about that or remotely racketeering in nature. The pro-life people were certainly not profiting from the abortions they are against. However, they have been targeted with RICO to block them from being pro-life activists. In this instance the application of the law was 180 degrees from its intended use.

Many Americans refer to the 'criminal cabal' that rules our nation but most truly do not grasp to what extent our government and corporations are truly controlled, influenced and directed by criminals. They enact law after law to line their pockets and stifle any dissent or ability to fight back.

This is not by accident, it is by criminal intent that the CEO slots, the board of directors and even Congress is littered with people who are mere fronts and puppets of the criminal cabal that really runs the pelf and plundering.

There is a simple explanation and even a trail to follow that explains how our nation has devolved from being a nation truly built on equity, equality, justice and rule of law to one nothing more than a sleazy specialized mafia syndicate that is sucking the life out of America and you.

In 1970 the US Congress enacted the RICO Act as part of the Organized Crime Control Act. It was a good idea at the time but like everything else Congress and Washington DC have done since Vietnam they managed to screw it up.

The article available at the following link will provide some background if a reader is truly interested in knowing how this started and how DC did what it always does, screw things up royally.

http://www.thirdamendment.com/rico.html

Oddly enough, the implied Third Amendment provision of right to privacy is what they have taken from you and have wrapped the cabal in as the 'flag' and 'patriotism' and 'defending America' from the boogeyman that truly wants the members of this criminal cabal dead. Yes, indeed, the real criminal cabal has many enemies and they cannot run the risk that Americans wake up and put an end to their RICO Empire.

The purpose of RICO was to break up the penetration of legitimate businesses and corporations by racketeering and criminals. Hence the name of the law: "Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organization". The law had a criminal part that could be used by federal and state prosecutors and a civil part that could be used by citizens to put an end to illegal activity, profiteering and plundering in illegal ways.

As the article link above reveals, there were only 300 criminal RICO actions between 1970 to 1980 and the number of legitimate actions has continued to drop as the criminal elements have taken full charge of our government and the fascist corporations that now control every nuance of policy, expenditures and who benefits by lining their pockets at the expense of the American people.

The idea was headed in the right direction until the criminals proved to be much smarter than the prosecutors and had penetrated major corporations, banks, Wall Street, Big Pharma, Big Defense, Big Oil, Big Energy, and even Congress, the judiciary and even the prosecuting attorney's office in many parts of America.

This 'criminal cabal' that calls itself the US Congress has even gone so far to pass laws that legalize stock fraud, grant immunity to defense contractors and Big Pharma so the money flow is not hampered by lawsuits and having to pay large damages. Under the Clinton Administration RICO was modified so that it could not be used in blatant stock fraud cases and shareholders utilize the anti-racketeering law to punish those who harmed them finically through premeditated stock fraud.

One has to consider the irony of Congress when they talk and pretend to be all about rule of law, good governance and transparency, yet cloak their every move in veils and lies.

They have indeed turned stock fraud into a legitimate industry in America by tweaking the laws to prevent justice, punishment and disgorgement of what was stolen by plan and by action. The reason that the 'Congressional investigation' of Global Crossing CEO Gary Winnick (a Michael Milken co-defendant) was such a comical farce is almost every person sitting on the committee and asking all of the softball questions with easy outs had received considerable campaign contributions from the very persons they were assigned to 'investigate'. Gary Winnick was not sent to prison because his actions lined the pockets of the criminal cabal rather than make the "Madoff Mistake" of stealing from them.

Williams Communications Group and Global Crossing were two cases I was directly involved in as high bidder in bankruptcy. We had amassed considerable evidence of how companies are created, financed and then premeditatedly forced into bankruptcy to move the assets into just the right hands for pennies on the dollar. Certain parties were shorting the debt (bonds) to create a debt covenant default while others were shorting the stock to keep the companies headed into bankruptcy and literally the theft of the assets from the equity shareholders.

You should not be surprised or shocked that it was Wall Street and their most favored clients that were conducting this illegal activity offshore and stealing hundreds of billions, trillions from unsuspecting investors.

Most Americans are not aware that in New York and Delaware where most bankruptcy cases are filed for publicly traded companies, the attorneys, financial advisors and others involved literally refer to themselves as The Bankruptcy Mafia.

The Clinton Administration and Congress also amended the US Bankruptcy Code in 1994 so that shareholders were further pushed out and reduced to not having a financial stake, standing or interest in the bankruptcy.

This was all planned and has amounted to trillions of dollars of investment money being stolen from unsuspecting investors by what is a racketeer corrupt influenced organization otherwise known as Wall Street, Congress, Big Telecom, Big Pharma, Big Oil and Big Defense.

That $2 trillion that Ben Bernanke refused to tell Congress where it went is not hard to figure out. Major governments, pension funds, corporate and private investors were launching a civil and criminal action against DC and Wall Street due to the egregious levels of fraud that was and is the US subprime mortgage fraud. It was criminal intent that created that problem and when parties decided to take action Helicopter Ben paid them $2 trillion in hush money.

The 'troika' is especially egregious in the triangle formed by Big Oil, Big Defense and Wall Street, and aided and abetted every step of the way by the Congress Critters we have all come to hate with a passion. There is truly nothing to love about them or even like about them, yet idiot Americans refuse to flush the toilet and start over with real leadership that would fix what the real problems are in the United States.

It does not take foreign or war policy to fix what is wrong inside of America. The laws are there, need to be amended and bring this criminal cabal to the halls of justice.

The Afghanistan War was conceived and launched with criminal intent. The Iraq War was conceived and launched with premeditation of aforethought and criminal intent in nature.

How do you feel about criminal elements affecting their bottom line to your detriment and affecting the course of America to their benefit and your detriment? Worse yet, that many of those who are elected or appointed are criminals and part of the larger scam to line their pockets and put the screws to you?

Seriously, how do you feel about that America?

What is even more sinister is how criminal elements have now penetrated our FBI, CIA, DOJ and every vestige of the last line of defense that could take these matters to court and clean up a lot of the fraud that has come to define America. It is no longer the bastion of liberty, freedom and democracy and the last thing these criminals stand for is the Rule of Law.

Too many Americans are failing to grasp that what Sibel Edmonds discovered inside of the FBI was a criminal cabal working against the best interests and security of America. Entire investigations were thwarted, such as Dancing Israeli Dominik Suter and his name surfacing on a European bank account that was used in the financing of 9-11. He fled back to Israel where he is still protected to this day from extradition to face questions and possibly criminal charges in the United States AS A PERPETRATOR OF SEPTEMBER 11, 2001.

Across the entire spectrum of 'free America' inequality is now the norm and it has fractured society in some very serious ways. That was planned by a criminal cabal.

Across the world those nations where equality is closer in real and economic terms, there is better education, better economic opportunity, less drug and alcohol abuse, lower infant mortality and teen pregnancies, less crime, lower homicide rates, lower imprisonment rates, lower instances of fraud, more social capital in the form of trusting others, better health and health care, better mental health, higher educational scores, and infant mortality and teen pregnancies are less in more equal nations.

America can now be defined as being severely unequal from top to bottom as the Middle Class is being crushed by the Criminal Cabal, AIDED AND ABETTED BY THE US GOVERNMENT, and more Americans are forced into poverty.

Most readers know I now live in Europe and it is comical that most people I have met around the world think all Americans are wealthy. Little do they know that a full one-third of Americans are living in poverty and that number will continue to grow as long as the Criminal Cabal continues to loot America in any manner they can.

The reason the US government does not prosecute the Mafia with RICO is the government, the major corporations and the Mafia are now one.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   14:22:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Capitalist Eric (#90)

Thanks for playing.

www.gourmetsleuth.com/Art...uz-mountain-wineries.aspx

Map of wineries in the Santa Cruz Mountians.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   14:23:09 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: lucysmom (#95)

Map of wineries in the Santa Cruz Mountians.

See post #93.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   14:25:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: lucysmom (#89)

What do you think those mountains you saw to the west during your 10-year stay in silicon valley are called?

The Los Altos Hills.

Thanks for playing.


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The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   14:35:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: mininggold, sneakypete (#64)

You can tell your ignorant Alaskan mutt buddy for me that there are plenty of vineyards around San Jose and Almaden.

1.) pete isn't anybody's messenger boy hag.

2.) I LIVED and WORKED in San Jose for ten years you stupid simpering bitch.

3.) San Jose is NOT the Central Valley you stoopid gibbering bitch.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-14   14:42:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: hondo68 (#68)

Whinymold I figure for jail or mental institution. Progressive JBT's.

Working there or being incarcerated there?????

Leftardism/Liberalism: The chickenschitt way to deal with life’s problems by creating solutions to problems that don’t exist, thereby creating a problem where none existed before and then having to find a solution to that one…

CZ82  posted on  2012-05-14   14:44:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: NewsJunky (#82)

"UNFAIRNESS of LIFE".

You don't piss and moan about the "oppressive" government and liberals whose ideas you think have ruined the country? Both are here to stay and aren't going anywhere anytime soon. That's life..

WTF are you gibbering about FOOL?

Just show me, show us ALL moron; ONE FUCKING TIME THAT I OR ANY OTHER CONSERVATIVE HERE HAS EVER WHINED "ABOUT HOW UNFAIR LIFE IS" you stooooopid gibbering libTURD fuckwad.

THAT was the hag's SPECIFIC assertion moron.

What's the matter sphincter boy?

Have trouble with F'ing GRADE school level ENGLISH comprehension much?

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-14   14:51:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Capitalist Eric (#94)

You know what the difference is between the government and the Mafia?

The government has badges.

Did you ever hear the story of The Little Boy Wo Cried Wolf? Do you see how that might apply to you?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   14:54:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Mad Dog (#100)

ONE FUCKING TIME THAT I OR ANY OTHER CONSERVATIVE HERE HAS EVER WHINED "ABOUT HOW UNFAIR LIFE IS"

My guess is he thinks we're whining about how unfair life is when we complain about "OUR" tax money being used for "THEM" to go on vacation in Vegas, and use their Welfare credit cards to gamble with!!!! (You know how parasites are Dog)...

Leftardism/Liberalism: The chickenschitt way to deal with life’s problems by creating solutions to problems that don’t exist, thereby creating a problem where none existed before and then having to find a solution to that one…

CZ82  posted on  2012-05-14   14:56:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: lucysmom, Capitalist Eric (#95)

Map of wineries in the Santa Cruz Mountians.

LOL!

I swear Eric, this bitch is seriously mentally RETARDED!

This magic map shows ZERO vineyards IN SAN JOSE.

This stooooopid bitch just proved YOUR point!

LOL!

I spooks me out to know that people like this insane bitch are running around loose.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-14   14:59:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: CZ82 (#102)

.

I'm sure that you are right Bro.

A lifetime of dealing with these insane libTURD assholes has shown me that their ignorance is invincible.

They simply do NOT live on the same planet as normal folks do.

I know how to treat parasites.

We worm the hosts.

Then we isolate the results, we hit it with bleach, then we burn it.

They ALWAYS come back.

So we do it twice a year, no matter what.

IMO that's what AMERICA needs, a GOOD WORMING.

It will KILL those too weak from their infestations but we MUST do it.

FOR THE CHILDREN.

Right?

I despise PARASITES.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-14   15:06:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Capitalist Eric (#97)

http://www.bigdogvineyards.com/winery.htm

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-14   15:28:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Capitalist Eric (#93) (Edited)

As to your idiotic idea, there isn't "all that produce" in San Jose; in reality, there's NONE to speak of. But of course, you knew that, and were just trying to distract from the main point of Sneaky, that's it's getting REALLY BAD there.

Only idiots like you Asperger's think that everyone living in San Jose has to also work there.

An example is: Many vineyard workers live in Napa yet there are not many vineyards within the city limits.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-14   15:31:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: mininggold (#106)

Only idiots like you Asperger's think that everyone living in San Jose has to also work there.

Please.

Now that your claim has been thoroughly debunked, you attack again, and try to twist it all around, so that you're NOT shown to be a lying b!tch?

((( eyeball roll )))

*smirk*


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   16:37:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: mininggold (#106)

Only idiots like you Asperger's think that everyone living in San Jose has to also work there.

I wonder if all those silicon valley entrepreneurs mow their own lawns and prune their own trees?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   17:15:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: lucysmom (#108)

What, you looking for a job?

You'll have to get off your fat ass, though...


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   17:16:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: mininggold (#106)

Only idiots like you Asperger's

Voodoo medical diagnosis over the internet, just one of the many features of ObongoCare.


Put two aspirin between your knees, and call me in the morning.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-05-14   17:27:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Capitalist Eric (#107)

Now that your claim has been thoroughly debunked, you attack again, and try to twist it all around, so that you're NOT shown to be a lying b!tch?

((( eyeball roll )))

*smirk*

Says the guy who claims to have lived in silicon valley for ten years and still doesn't know the name of the mountain range to the west of San Jose.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   17:28:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Capitalist Eric (#109)

Your obsession with my ass isn't healthy.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   17:30:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: lucysmom (#112)

Says the guy who claims to have lived in silicon valley for ten years and still doesn't know the name of the mountain range to the west of San Jose.

JEEZ.....

On post #97, there's a MAP.... And due West of where I lived was the LOS ALTOS HILLS.

Your obsession with my ass isn't healthy.

At least on this point, we agree.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   17:58:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Capitalist Eric (#93)

illegal-alien-wetback scumbags

The real scumbags are those that are born here and REFUSE to work.

The reason that people hire illegal aliens to mow lawns, clean houses, and pick fruit is because blacks and white trash are too fat, dumb, and happy on the government dole to get off of their lazy asses to work and make a difference to themselves, their families, and the people around them.

I don't blame people who work hard to provide for themselves and their families.

I don't blame them at all.


we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague -- loonymom

jwpegler  posted on  2012-05-14   18:03:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Capitalist Eric (#113)

On post #97, there's a MAP.... And due West of where I lived was the LOS ALTOS HILLS.

It isn't "the" Los Alto Hills, it's Los Altos Hills - it's a place name, not a geographical feature. Los Altos Hills is located in the foothills of the Santa Cruz Mountains. Further, if I refer to mountains west of silicon valley that would mean mountains, not hills - there is a difference.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   19:04:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Capitalist Eric (#113)

Me: Your obsession with my ass isn't healthy.

Eric: At least on this point, we agree.

Then do the responsible thing and go get help.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   19:07:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: lucysmom (#115) (Edited)

Post #89: What do you think those mountains you saw to the west during your 10-year stay in silicon valley are called?

It isn't "the" Los Alto Hills, it's Los Altos Hills - it's a place name, not a geographical feature.

STILL can't read...? As I said, "On post #97, there's a MAP.... And due West of where I lived was the LOS ALTOS HILLS."

The Los Altos Hills are due WEST of the San Jose area. The Santa Cruz mountains are SSW of San Jose/Silicon Valley.

I answered the exact question you asked.

Maybe you should be more precise in your questions.

LOL. It's so easy to play you... Thanks for the laughs.

Moving on to other threads... because you're just starting to bore me with your idiocy.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   19:10:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: jwpegler (#114)

The real scumbags are those that are born here and REFUSE to work.

Because the parasites know the nanny-state will take care of them...

The nanny's dying.

They'll learn to work, or they'll die.

PISS on 'em.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   19:13:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Mad Dog (#100)

ABOUT HOW UNFAIR LIFE IS

Life includes having to deal with the government and liberals. If you complain about either you are complaining about life.

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-05-14   19:35:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: CZ82 (#102)

"THEM" to go on vacation in Vegas

Yeah I don't think someone on welfare should be going to Vegas. And unless they lie about their income they wouldn't be able to afford something like that. TANF (cash assistance) is basically subsistence income for the woman and her children. I think all fraud should be weeded out.

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-05-14   19:49:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: NewsJunky (#119)

.

Perhaps.

But COMPLAINING is NOT the same thing as WHINING moron.

LMAOAY!!!!!!

You gibbering libTURD shithead you are forced to use ENGLISH as it is, NOT as you want it to be.

Words have actual meanings MORON.

That you are so stooopid that you conflate words that do not have the same meaning out of ignorance or agenda means NOTHING to me moron.

It would be best for you now to shut up so as NOT to prove the axiom that it is better to be thought of as a FOOL while silent than to PROVE that you are a FOOL by venting your noxious pie hole, MORON.

I'm jes sayin ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-14   19:53:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Capitalist Eric (#117)

STILL can't read...? As I said, "On post #97, there's a MAP.... And due West of where I lived was the LOS ALTOS HILLS."

The Los Altos Hills are due WEST of the San Jose area. The Santa Cruz mountains are SSW of San Jose/Silicon Valley.

Go read your map again Eric, it doesn't "the" Los Altos Hills, it says Los Altos Hills.

I asked the name of the mountains west of San Jose, and you give me the name of a town and think just because the name has "hill" in it, you've answered my question.

You are wrong about the location of the Santa Cruz Mountains:

The Santa Cruz Mountains AVA is an American Viticultural Area centered around the Santa Cruz Mountains. It includes three counties in California: Santa Clara, Santa Cruz and San Mateo. Recognized as an AVA in 1981, the Santa Cruz Mountains Appellation was among the first to be defined by its mountain topography. Wikipedia

Just for laughs, here's a picture of a 60 arce orchard in Los Altos Hills:

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   20:39:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Capitalist Eric (#117)

Moving on to other threads... because you're just starting to bore me with your idiocy.

It's been said that only boring people get bored.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   20:41:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: lucysmom, Sneakypete, ALL (#122)

You stoopid bitch, it's your other half who claimed that San Jose has "PRODUCE" that needs picking by illegal aliens.

A few vineyards does NOT the Central Valley make.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"#33. To: lucysmom, Sneakypete (#30)

If your brother thinks San Jose is bad

I wonder who else Sneaky thinks will pick all that produce or cheaply clean the offices of the computer moguls.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'.

Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold posted on 2012-05-14 12:07:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply ."

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-14   21:06:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Mad Dog (#121)

Whining:

2. To complain or protest in a childish fashion

I see that every day on this site.

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-05-14   21:23:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: mininggold, Mad Dog (#64)

You can tell your ignorant Alaskan mutt buddy for me that there are plenty of vineyards around San Jose and Almaden.

Why don't you tell him yourself?

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   21:27:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Capitalist Eric, jwpegler (#65)

I suspect that is exactly what is going to happen.

At one point or another it HAS to happen. The money just isn't there and we will reach the point where we can't borrow it anymore because it won't be in the interests of the international bankers to bail us out.

That will be the day the Second American Revolution starts.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   21:30:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: hondo68 (#110)

Only idiots like you Asperger's

That was a dig at me. I posted that I have Asperger's Syndrome a while back,and she immediated jumped all over me for being "retarded". I then asked her what a leftie like her was doing poking fun at someone she thinks is legally retarded (she had obviously never done any research on Asperger's ),and why she wasn't ashamed of herself for this.

I also had some fun with her by telling her that many Aspberger's people have genius-level IQ's,and asking her what it feels like to know someone she was ridiculing for being retarded is smarter than her.

Now she mostly takes these indirect potshots,

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   21:59:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: jwpegler (#114)

The real scumbags are those that are born here and REFUSE to work.

And don't even know how to read,write,or speak standard English.

I'm no fan of illegal aliens because they are criminals,but they do work and they generally do good work.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   22:01:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: sneakypete (#127) (Edited)

The money just isn't there and we will reach the point where we can't borrow it anymore because it won't be in the interests of the international bankers to bail us out.

That will be the day the Second American Revolution starts.

Who will pay for the revolution, or do you think food, weapons, ammunition, transportation, uniforms (Orly Taitz wants uniforms), medical supplies, etc. are free.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   22:04:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: lucysmom (#130)

Who will pay for the revolution, or do you think food, weapons, ammunition, transportation, uniforms (Orly Taitz wants uniforms), medical supplies, etc.

Real revolutions are spontaneous,not organized events with CPA's and social directors.

And revolutionaries are prone to take what they want or need,and shoot anybody that objects.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   22:07:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: mcgowanjm (#9)

That was a bad, bad post on your part. It suggests that you didn't study your history books.

Contrary to your opinion, it is individual human thought, human imagination, human inventiveness and human spirit that leads the course of human events; we are not lagging or after the fact as you prophetically say. I hope you don't mind me stepping on your clumsy tippy-toes, but you are full of "hot-aire." I shall itemize your silly post into easily understood "mcgowanjm guffaws" for you to recognize.

mcgowanjm guffaw#0:

To look at this whole post from a Fourth Turning perspective, how does this Turning differ from the American Revolution, the Civil War, and the Great Depression? In each of those prior Turnings our Society was accessing Greater Wealth and Power. After the American Revolution, we were accessing the vast Wealth of the North American Continent and all its Resources.

Bad lead-in to your arguments, mcgowanjm. Here is why:

mcgowanjm guffaw#1:

After the American Revolution, we were accessing the vast Wealth of the North American Continent and all its Resources.

That is false. America (or the 13 colonies) were already involved with HUGE stakes of natural resources BEFORE the American Revolution. As one example: the American or Yankee Clipper Ships was built out of the NorthEast from natural timber. Those same ships were the fastest on oceanic travel and were principally purchased by Britain. In a true sense, America ensured the demise of the Spanish Armada, freeing Britain for world conquest after defeating Spain.

mcgowanjm guffaw#2:

After the Civil War, we were accessing the thermodynamic energy of Coal and beginning the Industrial Revolution.

The Great American Civil War (the war between the North and South) was circa ~1863 for some four years later. Much of the infrastructure of America was in a state of economic shock because of the war; this is true especially for the South; it was the bloodiest war that America has EVER fought.

Prior to the Civil War, the North maintained about 80% of the railways in America. The railways were an offshoot of technology from Europe built upon the pre-existing two-wheeled donkey carts from the older Roman Empire. I am not suggesting the Roman Empire created railway systems. I am suggesting the Roman Empire created roads EVERYWHERE in Europe and around the Mediteranian ocean. And, as a result, those same well-traveled paths of nearly 2000 years were used for the creation of a railway system.

America came at the right time to take advantage of that technology. Even to this day, America's railway system is inferior to Europes by ORDERS of magnitude.

Europe created the precursors of the Industrial Revolution several hundred before the America Civil War. We were just lucky in time and space when looking back to have taken advantage of the technologies that later came AND the America built upon, leading the world.

mcgowanjm guffaw#3:

After the Great Depression and WWII, we were accessing the thermodynamic energy of Oil and growing into the Information Age.

Incredible statement. The modern world of telecommunications occured with Joseph Henry. He created the electro-magnetic coil which in turn lead to the technology of morse code or telography or the telegraph. This happened even BEFOR the Civil War, my friend.

What you are referring to is the US government's research into semi-conductors after WW2 because of the earlier technological considerations about radio and telecommunications problems for weight and power consumption in wartime. The vacummum tube was invented WAYYY before the Great Depression to include my great-grandfather's video graphic tube.

mcgowanjm guffaw#4:

What is there left for us now to grow into after THIS Fourth Turning.

Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Based on your reasoning we should just join some cult and take a pill because a comet streamed by and we can't do anything about it.

mcgowanjm guffaw#5:

I put to you that we have nothing left to grow into now, and so we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plaguei (sic). Like the original Dark Ages, I think this period will last near a Millenia, and who we are and how we come out of this at the end is anybody’s guess.

The DARK AGES were before the Black Plague; it occured during the decline to the Roman Empire, circa ~300 AD to ~1300 AD. At that time a religious monstrousity was built from the religious nutcases called "Catholics" that subjugated their own people. They were more brutal than even the Romans were. Because the "Catholics" went into decline for hundreds of years, fucking everyone to include Jews and Muslims in Jerusalem, a few folks went to China for increased trade benefits.

Marco Polo unintentionally brought back the Black Plague in about 1300. This disease destroyed about 60% of Europe's population base. More than that, the Black Plague stopped the silly Crusades and destroed the power of the Holy Roman Empire's Pope.

This human blight created an all-new way viewing the world in the Renaissance period, circa ~1350.

As a recommendation, please re-think your own posts. You can research everything I have discussed. But, one FACT remains: you don't know what you have talked about.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-05-14   22:17:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: lucysmom (#130)

uniforms (Orly Taitz wants uniforms),

Brown shirts maybe? cuz we all know this supposed revolution is going to be led by the right. Who else is talking about it?

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-05-14   22:40:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: lucysmom (#122)

I asked the name of the mountains west of San Jose,

There are NO mountains WEST of San Jose. The Los Altos Hills are as close as it gets. After that, it's the fucking PACIFIC OCEAN.

JEEZ, you are fucking THICK.

Oh, and the pic you posted, shows... the LOS ALTOS HILLS.

THANK YOU for proving my point.

As to posting links from wiki, I've been there, lived in the area from 1992 until 2007. It'd be the same as posting a pic of a '68 Camaro, and then use wiki to tell me ALL about it... when I'm building one in my garage!

It's been said that only boring people get bored.

It's been said [by you] that you're PROUD to be ignorant.

It's been said [by almost everyone on this forum] that you're a STOOOPID bitch.

It's been said [by me] that you're a worthless cunt.

The fact is, you think you can debate with me (or anyone else on this forum), just by virtue of the fact that you can punch the letters on a keyboard. You think wrong.

The reality is that you're an idiot, and you brag about your ignorance with every fucking post you make. You constantly attempt to discuss things like macroeconomics, when it is obvious you have NO clue about the subject. Ohhh, you try to use the dumbed-down expressions of other so-called experts, but at the end of the day, you just a stupid bitch, who mouths the empty platitudes of the MSM-propaganda.

Question:Why would ANYBODY take you seriously?
Answer: NOBODY who knows shit from shinola takes you seriously.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   22:58:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: NewsJunky (#133)

Brown shirts maybe? cuz we all know this supposed revolution is going to be led by the right. Who else is talking about it?

Red has bad political associations, green isn't any better. Purple, that's gay isn't it? In fact all the colors of the rainbow are kinda gay. Brown is a real possibility.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   22:59:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: NewsJunky (#133)

cuz we all know this supposed revolution is going to be led by the right.

Does it REALLY matter whether the boot on the back of your neck is the right one or the left?

Are you REALLY that fucking stupid?

Look at Greece... Spain, Italy, France... you think the fact that those countries are collapsing is a RIGHT-WING conspiracy?

Are you REALLY that fucking stupid?

It's called an ECONOMIC COLLAPSE.

It doesn't matter if you consider yourself a socialist, communist or anarchist, we're ALL going to suffer.

Grow up, you putz.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   23:07:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: sneakypete (#127)

The money just isn't there and we will reach the point where we can't borrow it anymore...

We're already there. The Chinese quit buying our debt late last year, and are quietly liquidating the T-bills they do have... They're selling it for whatever they can, and are buying gold.

Of course, you'll not hear this in the MSM, because then people might start asking questions that the elitists would prefer not to answer.

The collapse is occurring right now.

That will be the day the Second American Revolution starts.

I think most of the sheep (like Newsjunky, loonyMing, rat-boy, et.al) will do whatever they're told... until they're forced to board the trains for the FEMA camps. Like the Jews, they're conditioned to accept tyranny, all in the name of the [nonexistant] "War on Terror."

Those that are awake, will fight. One need only look at the sales figures for guns over the last 5-10 years, to see that.

The DHS knows this too, hence their overt preps to fight Americans.

They'll LOSE, of course... not because of idiots like loonyming, and the rest... but in spite of them. Sadly, these pathetic examples of humanity will (largely) be spared by their betters. Were there justice in this world, they would pay the price they deserve for their fucking TREACHERY.

IMO.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   23:15:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Capitalist Eric (#134)

There are NO mountains WEST of San Jose. The Los Altos Hills are as close as it gets. After that, it's the fucking PACIFIC OCEAN.

Now I'm doubting you've ever been to Silicon Valley.

It's been said [by almost everyone on this forum] that you're a STOOOPID bitch.

It's been said [by me] that you're a worthless cunt.

The fact is, you think you can debate with me (or anyone else on this forum), just by virtue of the fact that you can punch the letters on a keyboard. You think wrong.

The reality is that you're an idiot, and you brag about your ignorance with every fucking post you make. You constantly attempt to discuss things like macroeconomics, when it is obvious you have NO clue about the subject. Ohhh, you try to use the dumbed-down expressions of other so-called experts, but at the end of the day, you just a stupid bitch, who mouths the empty platitudes of the MSM-propaganda.

Question:Why would ANYBODY take you seriously? Answer: NOBODY who knows shit from shinola takes you seriously.

You're upset because I said your obsession with my ass was unhealthy, aren't you.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   23:19:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: lucysmom (#138) (Edited)

Now I'm doubting you've ever been to Silicon Valley.

REALLY...

I used to be at a big apartment complex, 450 N. Mathilda Avenue. It was pretty nice back then, but I've not seen it in a long time. I could even give you the apartment number, but it doesn't matter. You don't know shit about this subject (any more than any of the OTHER stuff you ignorantly weigh-in on).

My local hangout was a bar called Cheers, close to the intersection of San Tomas and El Camino. My favorite restaurant was an Olive Garden, just East of the bar... I ate there so often, the manager used to meet me every time I went, and seat us in the quietest parts of the joint.

I took three years to finish dual Associates' Degrees at Mission/West Valley College- just a stones-throw from Great America. If you look at the student center, I had a direct hand in that being built, as well as the triad of corporations that leased ~80 acres of property from the district.

I could go on, but the point is made; you're talking shit as usual, and I'm talking the FACTS. Nothing new, here.

ME: Question:Why would ANYBODY take you seriously?
Answer: NOBODY who knows shit from shinola takes you seriously.

YOU: You're upset because I said your obsession with my ass was unhealthy, aren't you.

You really need to get it through the thick bone to that empty little cavity between your ears...

You're just another parasite, blathering the typical sheeple bullshit. I'd have to care about you, to be upset with you.

Let me be clear: you're a worthless old cunt, and a drag on society. You're literally more valuable dead than alive...

How you ever managed to reproduce, my guess would be the result of beer goggles.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-15   0:02:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Capitalist Eric (#136)

ECONOMIC COLLAPSE

I hear ya Eric. I think you guys need to get your stories straight though.

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-05-15   0:05:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: sneakypete, hondo68 (#128)

I also had some fun with her by telling her that many Aspberger's people have genius-level IQ's,and asking her what it feels like to know someone she was ridiculing for being retarded is smarter than her.

That explains a lot... she was throwing that at me, looking for a bite...

I don't have Aspergers (though she claims the ability to diagnose such a thing through an internet forum), but I was pegged at genius-level IQ some 30 years ago...

[Like that was a big deal- a lot of the other people I knew in the same boat couldn't walk and chew bubble-gum, so what does that mean?]

Her and her sheeple ilk think that it's an ego thing... which, honestly, I don't get. Everybody's got strengths and weaknesses... though on loonyming's behalf, her strength is her imperviousness to logic and common-sense. Were she to actually use her brain in a constructive manner, she'd probably be pretty impressive.

Sadly, that's not the case, so the point is moot.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-15   0:08:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: NewsJunky (#125)

Really FOOL?

REALLY?

You REALLY are so lame so STOOPID, so chickenshit, so PUNK, so libTURD

Now you want to argue about the definition, and the technical difference between COMPLAINING and WHINING?

LOL! With your pitiful IGNORANCE of even basic ENGLISH FOOL?

LOL! You really are a pitiful little bitch!

LOL!

Whining is what YOU are doing right now you absurd simpering little cunt.

LOL!

So now I'm supposed to play dueling definitions with you you absurd little cunt?

The challenge was to find ANY CONSERVATIVE ON THIS SITE WHO HAS EVER COMPLAINED OF THE UNFAIRNESS OF LIFE.

You have not met that challenge little boy, you don't get to say what words mean you pitiful little bitch.

I honestly pity how insecure and stooopid you are.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-15   0:11:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: Capitalist Eric (#139) (Edited)

Calm down. Not every woman on the internet looks like that picture of your last mail order bride (I bet she could really cook though).

Next time don't drink before you order.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-15   1:39:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: Capitalist Eric (#139)

I said your obsession with my ass was unhealthy,

IMO it's all ass, with one small appendage for pecking at the keyboard.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-05-15   1:45:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: mininggold (#143)

Calm down. Not every woman on the internet looks like that picture of your last mail order bride...

Jealous that I would refuse to put up with a numb cunt like you?

"Better put some ice on that."

I do find it cute that you would flop to the other screen-name, though. It signals that you've lost the debate, and are now desperate.

It must suck to be so fucking worthless as you are... But hey, when the economy implodes, I'm sure you'll find your true calling in life... Something appropriate to you. Just look for the "Help Wanted" signs:


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-15   1:50:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: NewsJunky (#140)

I think you guys need to get your stories straight though.

Who, precisely, is "you guys?"

And what exactly is the story you think I'm telling? From my perspective, I'm putting out easily verifiable information, and hoping that others will see what's coming...

We have the resident sheeple who think the government is our SAVIOR from every ill in the world, when the reality is the #1 cause of death of people over the last 100 years... is GOVERNMENTS. What, 200 million people killed by government?

I don't see this as an "us" or "them" type of thing... George Carlin summarized it best:

There's a reason that education sucks, and it’s the same reason it will never ever ever be fixed. It’s never going to get any better, don’t look for it. Be happy with what you’ve got. Because the owners of this country don’t want that. I’m talking about the real owners now, the big, wealthy, business interests that control all things and make the big decisions.

Forget the politicians, they’re irrelevant.

Politicians are put there to give you that idea that you have freedom of choice. You don’t. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land, they own and control the corporations, and they’ve long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the State Houses, and the City Halls. They’ve got the judges in their back pockets. And they own all the big media companies so they control just about all the news and information you get to hear.

They’ve got you by the balls.

They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want; they want more for themselves and less for everybody else. But I’ll tell you what they don’t want—they don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That’s against their interest. You know something, they don’t want people that are smart enough to sit around their kitchen table and figure out how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago.

They don’t want that, you know what they want?

They want obedient workers, obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it.

And now they’re coming for your social security money.

They want your fucking retirement money; they want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street. And you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you sooner or later because they own this fucking place. It’s a big club and you ain’t in it! You and I are not in the Big Club. By the way, it’s the same big club they use to beat you in the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to believe, what to think and what to buy.

The table is tilted folks, the game is rigged.

Nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard working people, white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on. Good honest hard working people continue, these are people of modest means, continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don’t give a fuck about them. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t give a fuck about…give a fuck about you! They don’t care about you at all, at all, at all.

And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care.

That’s what the owners count on, the fact that Americans are and will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white, and blue dick that’s being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth, it’s called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.

Look, you and I disagree on political viewpoints. Fine. But this shit that's coming, is about as equal opportunity as it gets... We're not "in the club," and so we're gonna' be stuck in shit for a very long time.

I don't know the solution. I doubt there is a solution... all we can do is prepare as best as possible, do our best... and we'll see what we see.

It's rack-time, so I'll bid you adieu.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-15   2:02:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: Capitalist Eric (#145)

Jealous that I would refuse to put up with a numb cunt like you?

"Better put some ice on that."

I do find it cute that you would flop to the other screen-name, though. It signals that you've lost the debate, and are now desperate.

I only have one screen-name. Don't you ever get tired of admitting you are a fool?

It's too bad that she left you, but if your behavior on the internet is any indication, you do have a bit of a temper and probably a record to match. You probably accused her of being someone else too.

So who could blame her?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-15   2:11:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: mininggold (#147)

.

SICK!

I LOVE watching when you talk to yourself in front of the mirror hag!

BUT I do feel sorry for your cats.

How deep IS the cat shit in your house now? Could you at least open a window?

Have another bonbon hag, what's on the Jerry Springer show?

Your family?

LOL!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-15   2:21:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Mad Dog (#142) (Edited)

Mad dawg in a nutshell:

Namecall

laugh

namecall

namecall

laugh

like a freakin robot lol

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-05-15   2:32:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: sneakypete (#24)

You are missing the point,which is that the SWAT and other jack-booted thugs with badges think THEY are the military.

Hmmm.... you wouldn't be referring to our own very own Fire Island, would you?

LOL.

meguro  posted on  2012-05-15   3:35:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: NewsJunky (#133)

Brown shirts maybe? cuz we all know this supposed revolution is going to be led by the right. Who else is talking about it?

So you think the Occupy Movement is "right wing"?????? LOL.....

Maybe you should listen to what some of them have to say (If you can actually stand it, some of them are pretty dense) and "ONE" of their items is violent revolution..... Considering who they are it's actually kinda funny...... but my guess is they expect someone else to do the fighting and dieing while they hide someplace waiting for it all to end......

Leftardism/Liberalism: The chickenschitt way to deal with life’s problems by creating solutions to problems that don’t exist, thereby creating a problem where none existed before and then having to find a solution to that one…

CZ82  posted on  2012-05-15   7:14:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: buckeroo (#132)

mcgowanjm guffaw#1:

After the American Revolution, we were accessing the vast Wealth of the North American Continent and all its Resources.

That is false. America (or the 13 colonies) were already involved with HUGE stakes of natural resources BEFORE the American Revolution. As one example: the American or Yankee Clipper Ships was built out of the NorthEast from natural timber. Those same ships were the fastest on oceanic travel and were principally purchased by Britain. In a true sense, America ensured the demise of the Spanish Armada, freeing Britain for world conquest after defeating Spain.

"The Invincible Fleet") was the Spanish fleet that sailed against England under the command of the Duke of Medina Sidonia in 1588, with the intention of overthrowing Elizabeth I of England....

and you're going with this....seriously.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-15   9:25:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: buckeroo (#132)

After the Civil War, we were accessing the thermodynamic energy of Coal and beginning the Industrial Revolution.

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-15   9:28:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: buckeroo (#132)

After the Great Depression and WWII, we were accessing the thermodynamic energy of Oil and growing into the Information Age.

60% of the German Wehrmacht was moved by horse....;}

PROCEEDINGS OF THE IEEE THROUGH 100 YEARS: 1930–1939 www.ieee.org/publications...ions/.../scanpast0412.p... You +1'd this publicly. Undo rates that topped 25%, commercial radio grew. In 1929, 40% of American households owned a radio; by 1939 that number was over 80%. A radio receiver, once ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-15   9:32:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: buckeroo (#132)

What is there left for us now to grow into after THIS Fourth Turning.

Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Based on your reasoning we should just join some cult and take a pill because a comet streamed by and we can't do anything about it.

New NEWS...

Mothership has been delayed.

Do NOT....Repeat...Do Not eat the pudding....do Not take the pill.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-15   9:34:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: buckeroo (#132)

I put to you that we have nothing left to grow into now, and so we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plaguei (sic). Like the original Dark Ages, I think this period will last near a Millenia, and who we are and how we come out of this at the end is anybody’s guess.

The DARK AGES were before the Black Plague; it occured during the decline to the Roman Empire, circa ~300 AD to ~1300 AD. At that time a religious monstrousity was built from the religious nutcases called "Catholics" that subjugated their own people. They were more brutal than even the Romans were. Because the "Catholics" went into decline for hundreds of years, fucking everyone to include Jews and Muslims in Jerusalem, a few folks went to China for increased trade benefits.

Why the Middle Ages Should Be Named the Dark Ages - Yahoo ... voices.yahoo.com/why-midd...med-dark-ages-288912.html

Apr 17, 2007 – The bubonic plague is one of the main reasons why the middle ages should be called the dark ages. The plague killed nearly a third of the ...

The Catholics caused bubonic plague...popery taken to the next level.

History was not your favorite class, was it buck....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-15   9:37:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: buckeroo (#132)

Marco Polo unintentionally brought back the Black Plague in about 1300. This disease destroyed about 60% of Europe's population base. More than that, the Black Plague stopped the silly Crusades and destroed the power of the Holy Roman Empire's Pope.

This human blight created an all-new way viewing the world in the Renaissance period, circa ~1350.

As a recommendation, please re-think your own posts. You can research everything I have discussed. But, one FACT remains: you don't know what you have talked about.

# Black Death - Middle Ages www.middle-ages.org.uk/black-death.htmCached - Similar You +1'd this publicly. Undo The spread of the Black Death followed all of the Trade Routes to every country. The Black Death of the Middle Ages was believed to have originated in the Gobi ...

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In: Conditions and Diseases, Middle Ages, Black Death (Plagues). Answer: The black death originated central Asia and spread to Europe. It started because of ...

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Since ancient times the word 'Gobi' meaning 'desert' in all Ural-Altaic languages was ... The Great Mongolian Gobi (the western part is located inside China, now) has high ... When hairs of the baby takhi became dry, nobody can capture it.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-15   9:41:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: buckeroo (#132)

As a recommendation, please re-think your own posts. You can research everything I have discussed. But, one FACT remains: you don't know what you have talked about.

Thanx, bucky...;}

Did just that.

Standing by Everything I posted....good luck with your handling the Collapse now...;}

A sub-editor gleefully coined the headline “Dimon is a Whale of a Hedge Fund Manager”.

But the losses raise serious issues. As they do not relate to the usual “rogue trading” incident which is typically dismissed as impossible to detect or control, the episode provides insights into the problems of modern high finance, bank strategies and regulation of markets.

Details are sketchy. The losses relate to a position taken to “hedge” a US$300+ billion investment portfolio managed by JPM’s Central Investment Office (“CIO”) overseen by staff including experienced hedge fund investment managers. The portfolio has increased in size from $76 billion in 2007 to $356 billion in 2011.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-15   9:43:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: jwpeglerwe spend in 5 hours on Israel and War what we spend in 5 years on our Health Care. (#44)

we spend in 5 hours on Israel and War what we spend in 5 years on our Health Care.

Thanx, JW...;}

You're exactly correct. And I was wrong.

I meant to type this:

"we spend in 5 hours on DEFENSE....hold on.... and War what we spend in 5 years on our Health Care. ...

Nope. I was correct with the first statement.

we spend in 5 hours on Israel and War (Israel IS war;) what we spend in 5 years on our Health Care.

Nakba Anniversary...Deir Yassin...Israel's first real massacre....;}

700 000 Palestinians don't just decide one day to get up and leave....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-15   9:53:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: sneakypete (#24)

You are missing the point,which is that the SWAT and other jack-booted thugs with badges think THEY are the military. That's why these dweebs call us "civilians"

This misconception needs to be corrected immediately.

Sure, petey.

They WANT to be military.

Just like the Brownshirts wanted to be Wehrmacht....;}

But wish in one hand and shite in the other. Which fills up faster....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-15   9:55:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: sneakypete (#22)

Our standard of living will approach that of the current 3rd World. This is inevitable now, its just a question of how long it will take to slide down and how the society will adjust to the new reality.

Sadly,I am in complete agreement with the above.

There's opportunities...;}

Start breeding draft animals for instance....;}

Make electric generators out of cars.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-15   9:57:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: sneakypete (#21)

makes no sense because you DO care about USSA gov't spending and we spend in 5 hours on Israel and War what we spend in 5 years on our Health Care.

That's not Israel's fault. They would be foolish to not take the free money we give them.

Sure. Just don't label me and others Anti Semites when we call the Israelis and their USSA dual citizenship benefactors on it....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-15   9:59:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: NewsJunky (#149)

Mad dawg in a nutshell:

Namecall

laugh

namecall

namecall

laugh

like a freakin robot lol

If he only had a brain. There seems to be lots with Aspergers on this forum. Concrete thinkers without a lick of imagination.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-15   11:02:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: lucysmom (#135)

Brown is a real possibility.

It's also the traditional color for you leftists.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-15   12:35:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: Capitalist Eric (#141)

[Like that was a big deal- a lot of the other people I knew in the same boat couldn't walk and chew bubble-gum, so what does that mean?]

It just means that you were lucky enough to be born already understanding a lot of things,and that you have the ability to easily understand other things if they interest you.

It doesn't mean you WILL do anything with the gift that was given you at birth,though.

Almost all of the self-make millionaires I know are of no more than average intelligence,but they all had and used the ability to focus on becoming successful at their chosen careers,and to work hard to be successful.

Almost all the really bright people I know have a comfortable standard of living,but none are really rich. This is probably due to very bright people being too interested in too many things to ever find the time to focus on one thing only and use that to succeed financially in life.

Or at least that is the theory I came up with. Probably the 2nd smartest person I have ever met retired as a Staff Sergeant in the US Army. He had a GT score of 156,which is damn near off the charts. He was leg in a Engineer unit attached to the 1st SFG,and a lot of fun to hang out with because he was always jumping from one interesting hobby to another.

THE smartest person I ever met was a Idiot Savant I went to high school with. This guy literally had to have someone walk him back and forth from home to school because he would walk right out in front of traffic and never even look. He would be too busy doing math problems in his head to be bothered to look.

I'm not sure if he didn't know how to tie his shoelaces or if he just couldn't be bothered to do it,but it was normal to see him stopped in the hallway and there be somebody kneeling in front of him and tying his shoelaces for him.

He had a little sister that was scary smart too,but not in his class. Damn few people were. He graduated with honors from one of the big state schools with a advanced degree in mathematics at age 18 after only taking two years to go from HS grad to PHD,and went to work for NASA.

I seriously suspect he still needs a keeper to help him make it though the day.

Her and her sheeple ilk think that it's an ego thing...

Of course they do. The people who are not very bright always think being very bright would be something to brag about. That's because they don't know any better. It's like being really gifted musically or being really coordinated and a good natural athelete. Having the gift itself is meaningless unless you do something with it.

It's what you accomplish that is worth bragging about,not what you are born with.

Assuming of course that you are so lacking in self-esteem that you feel the need to brag to feel good about yourself.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-15   12:58:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: meguro (#150)

You are missing the point,which is that the SWAT and other jack-booted thugs with badges think THEY are the military. Hmmm.... you wouldn't be referring to our own very own Fire Island, would you?

Well............

He DID state that himself.

I think he sees himself in tights and wearing a cape and a mask.

And not just in "the clubs".

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-15   13:01:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: CZ82 (#151)

"ONE" of their items is violent revolution..... Considering who they are it's actually kinda funny...... but my guess is they expect someone else to do the fighting and dieing while they hide someplace waiting for it all to end......

A perfect example of that happened at Berkley when the leftist "intellectuals" there decided the Hells Angles would be THE perfect vanguard for the leftist revolution,and would be more than willing to start the revolution and lead the charges. After all,they were harassed by the cops and known to consider themselves as outlaws,right?

So they invited the Angels over to discuss the revolution. The result was the HA beat the snot out of them and took their money,drugs,and guns,and left to go back to Oakland.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-15   13:05:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: mininggold (#163)

Concrete thinkers without a lick of imagination.

As opposed to people like you,who are all imagination because you have concrete for brains and are incapable of learning?

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-15   13:10:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: sneakypete (#167)

So they invited the Angels over to discuss the revolution. The result was the HA beat the snot out of them and took their money,drugs,and guns,and left to go back to Oakland.

Funny, I actually rode with the Angles a bit back in those days and don't remember that story.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-15   13:18:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: lucysmom (#169)

Funny, I actually rode with the Angles a bit back in those days and don't remember that story.

I have a hard time picturing you as a ol lady.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-15   13:26:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: sneakypete (#170)

I have a hard time picturing you as a ol lady.

I wasn't in the sense you're trying to imagine.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-15   13:32:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: lucysmom (#169) (Edited)

Funny, I actually rode with the Angles a bit back in those days and don't remember that story.

Did you know Jim Moran from the Richmond chapter?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-15   13:33:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: sneakypete (#168)

As opposed to people like you,who are all imagination because you have concrete for brains and are incapable of learning?

Learning isn't learning if it means believing your figments as true historical fact.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-15   13:36:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: lucysmom (#169)

Funny, I actually rode with the Angles a bit back in those days and don't remember that story.

It's what is known as a sneakypeteism. And don't expect to find any citations.

I was in Berkeley a lot in those days, I don't remember seeing even one Hell's Angel there.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-15   13:40:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: mininggold (#172)

Did you know Jim Moran from the Richmond chapter?

Not that I remember. The guy I rode with was called "The Professor". He went on to become a Silicon Valley entrepreneur, sold his company and retired early.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-15   14:33:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: NewsJunky (#149)

.

NewPunky in a nutshell

24/7/365 libTURD DNC/messiah "king" obammy talking points

Supercilious stupidity, NEVER even once correct on ANY FACTUAL basis.

ALL POSE, ALL of the time.

By rote repetition of ALL "Hate Amerika FIRST!", and ALL libTURD slurs and dogma.

RUNS away when intellectually bitch slapped.

Yep, NOTHING at all there, except a whiny little libTURD pussy LOSER.

LOL!

Tell us ALL, again, pussy; about your service in the US Armed forces.

Pretty please with unicorn shit on it.

LMAOAY.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-15   14:33:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: lucysmom, sneakypete (#169)

Funny, I actually rode with the Angles a bit back in those days and don't remember that story.

You are a LYING piece of shit.

No BITCH has ever "rode with the HAs".

They might have pulled a train on you, or used you as a kleenex, ..., but you NEVER "RODE" with the Hell's Angels.

No wonder you are so stupid. You're nothing but a used kleenex.

IF you were worth the effort I'd drop a dime to the Cali HQ and tell them about an OLD fat azzed insane libTURD pig who was claiming on the web to have "rode" with them.

HAs don't like citizen wannabes trying to wear their colors without ever having been a prospect bitch.

You are an insane LIAR.

Be happy that you aren't worth the trouble you LYING bitch.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-15   14:42:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: mininggold (#174)

I was in Berkeley a lot in those days, I don't remember seeing even one Hell's Angel there.

LMAO!!!!

Byserkerley!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MORON.

YOUR view is certainly the test. /S

Ever heard of ALTAMONT you gibbering moron?

Honestly, you are a pitiful OLD libTURD cow.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-15   14:48:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: Mad Dog (#178)

Ever heard of ALTAMONT you gibbering moron?

Yeah, I'm sure she'll talk about the great wineries there...

LOL.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-15   15:45:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: Capitalist Eric (#179)

Yeah, I'm sure she'll talk about the great wineries there...

LOL.

I wasn't aware that The Rolling Stones were a bunch of leftist intellectuals. My bad.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-15   16:15:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: mininggold (#180)

Capitalist Eric: Yeah, I'm sure she'll talk about the great wineries there... LOL.

dingbatbitch: I wasn't aware that The Rolling Stones were a bunch of leftist intellectuals. My bad.

Wow... you continue to push the limits of idiocy.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-15   16:35:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: hondo68 (#0)

Here is the problem with CA:

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-05-15   16:36:35 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: mininggold (#173)

Learning isn't learning if it means believing your figments as true historical fact.

Try to keep that in mind in the future.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-15   20:12:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: mininggold (#174)

It's what is known as a sneakypeteism. And don't expect to find any citations.

Is lying ALL you do,skank?

I was in Berkeley a lot in those days, I don't remember seeing even one Hell's Angel there.

And of course that means none were ever there,because you have witnessed and know everything,despite understanding nothing.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-15   20:14:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: Mad Dog (#178) (Edited)

Laughs

inane

babbling

Namecall

Namecall

namecall

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-05-15   20:17:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: Capitalist Eric (#179)

Yeah, I'm sure she'll talk about the great wineries there...

LOL!

THAT's going to leave a mark.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-15   20:30:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: sneakypete (#186) (Edited)

To: Capitalist Eric

Yeah, I'm sure she'll talk about the great wineries there... LOL!

THAT's going to leave a mark.

Weren't you in Vietnam then? Being fed BS by Armed Forces Radio and other government military propaganda outlets. Too bad you remain so gullible.

PS. There's lots of vinards and wineries around Altamont and Livermore.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-15   21:19:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: mininggold (#187)

Weren't you in Vietnam then?

When,and what does that have to do with imaginary wineries?

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-15   22:15:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: NewsJunky (#185) (Edited)

.

LOL!

Here ya go tool, THIS is a logical FACT.

"TRUTH is an ABSOLUTE defense."

That means that if I speak the TRUTH, (which I TRY to do always), I am held harmless of speaking THAT objective TRUTH.

Pay attention here you libTURD FOOL.

You are a gibbering libTURD, YOU are a creature of the so called "left".

OBJECTIVE FACT has NOTHING to do with anything that you say or do in your pitiful deluded life, except in your attempts to EVADE the objective TRUTH.

You started here defending the myth/fraud of MAN MADE glow bull warming. You have no science behind your delusion, you are just a TOOL who repeats what your masters tell you to repeat.

You then tried to fit all of us conservatives into your master's gibbering stereotypes.

You don't see people as individuals who have value and worth. Hell you HATE individuals. You get mad at the cats when you TRY to herd them.

You are a deeply stoopid, gibbering little cowardly libTURD cunt.

I did not have anything to do with you being a libTURD cunt, you ARE a libTURD cunt. All anybody needs to do is check your posts.

You HATE America, AMERICANS, and the AMERICAN way of life, which allows you to spew the foulest insults against us all.

YOU and YOUR ilk are the blood enemies of individual LIBERTY and the US CONSTITUTION.

I'm not here to make peace with you SCUM, I'm here to DESTROY and RIDICULE your invincible IGNORANCE and FAILED theology.

YOU support the TYRANTS of this world.

YOU are just one of the new the "kapos", happy to help your own nation into the gas chambers as long as YOU get taken care of.

YOU ARE BASE TREASONOUS FILTH.

In the end you mean NOTHING tool.

Do you worst cunt.

I PISS on you.

ALL of which is the SIMPLE OBJECTIVE TRUTH cunt.

So .... WHINE away moron, your tears are SWEET!

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-15   22:49:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: sneakypete (#188)

When,and what does that have to do with imaginary wineries?

What is it with you winery deniers?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-15   23:39:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: sneakypete, mininggold (#188)

Weren't you in Vietnam then?

When,and what does that have to do with imaginary wineries?

LMAO!

I'll answer for her, in typical mininggold fashion....

"You didn't know that Vietnam is FULL of imaginary wineries?"

some text

We The People  posted on  2012-05-16   1:53:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: lucysmom (#190)

What is it with you winery deniers?

OK, that was funny.

some text

We The People  posted on  2012-05-16   1:53:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: lucysmom (#190)

What is it with you winery deniers?

They're trying to stay sober.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-16   2:06:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: Mad Dog, NewsJunky (#189)

YOU are just one of the new the "kapos", happy to help your own nation into the gas chambers as long as YOU get taken care of.

I hope he doesn't think he will be taken care of by his masters, if he does he's in for a big surprise..... take Rohm for instance!!!

Leftardism/Liberalism: The chickenschitt way to deal with life’s problems by creating solutions to problems that don’t exist, thereby creating a problem where none existed before and then having to find a solution to that one…

CZ82  posted on  2012-05-16   7:08:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: mininggold (#193)

They're trying to stay sober.

LOL!

Thanks, I needed that this morning.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-16   10:08:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: hondo68 (#0)

Golly gee, liberal theory is leading to financial collapse again....

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2012-05-16   10:40:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: We The People (#191)

LMAO!

I'll answer for her, in typical mininggold fashion....

"You didn't know that Vietnam is FULL of imaginary wineries?"

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Vietnamese wine

Vietnamese wine is wine produced in the Southeast Asian country of Vietnam. The area was first cultivated for viticulture during the French colonial rule of the region in the late 19th century. The region's tropical climate was ill suited for the type of Vitis vinifera that the French colonists were used to and the wine industry turned its attention to fruit wine production. The late 20th century saw renewed focus on the development of Vitis vinifera with the assistance of flying winemakers from regions like Australia. In 1995, a joint venture with Australian winemakers started an aggressive planting scheme to reintroduce international grape varieties like Cabernet Sauvignon and Chardonnay to land that was until recently littered with landmines left over from the Vietnam war.[1]

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-16   11:57:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: We The People (#191)

You didn't know that Vietnam is FULL of imaginary wineries?"

I hear the Kim-chi Merlot is quite good.

;)

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-16   13:18:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: Capitalist Eric (#198) (Edited)

"From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Vietnamese wine

Vietnamese wine is wine produced in the Southeast Asian country of Vietnam. The area was first cultivated for viticulture during the French colonial rule of the region in the late 19th century. The region's tropical climate was ill suited for the type of Vitis vinifera that the French colonists were used to and the wine industry turned its attention to fruit wine production. The late 20th century saw renewed focus on the development of Vitis vinifera with the assistance of flying winemakers from regions like Australia. In 1995, a joint venture with Australian winemakers started an aggressive planting scheme to reintroduce international grape varieties like Cabernet Sauvignon and Chardonnay to land that was until recently littered with landmines left over from the Vietnam war.[1] "

Isn't it amazing what selecting for certain horticultural traits can achieve? Some REAL capitalists are going to be very rich.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-16   13:27:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#200. To: mininggold, We The People (#199)

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-16   15:43:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: Capitalist Eric (#200)

"From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Vietnamese wine

Vietnamese wine is wine produced in the Southeast Asian country of Vietnam. The area was first cultivated for viticulture during the French colonial rule of the region in the late 19th century. The region's tropical climate was ill suited for the type of Vitis vinifera that the French colonists were used to and the wine industry turned its attention to fruit wine production. The late 20th century saw renewed focus on the development of Vitis vinifera with the assistance of flying winemakers from regions like Australia. In 1995, a joint venture with Australian winemakers started an aggressive planting scheme to reintroduce international grape varieties like Cabernet Sauvignon and Chardonnay to land that was until recently littered with landmines left over from the Vietnam war.[1] "

Isn't it amazing what selecting for certain horticultural traits can achieve? Some REAL capitalists are going to be very rich.

Your tantrums don't make it any less true

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-16   16:07:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#202. To: mininggold (#201)

What do real Vietnamese wineries have to do with imaginary Vietnamese wineries?

some text

We The People  posted on  2012-05-16   17:55:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#203. To: Mad Dog (#189)

You started here defending the myth/fraud of MAN MADE glow bull warming.

I haven't seen proof that it is a fraud. No one fired.. No fraudulent studies that had to be retracted. Nothing..

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-05-16   18:15:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#204. To: NewsJunky (#203)

I haven't seen proof that it is a fraud.

LOL!

I doubt you ever will.

some text

We The People  posted on  2012-05-16   18:29:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#205. To: NewsJunky (#203)

..

LOL!

Here ya go tool, THIS is a logical FACT.

"TRUTH is an ABSOLUTE defense."

That means that if I speak the TRUTH, (which I TRY to do always), I am held harmless of speaking THAT objective TRUTH.

Pay attention here you libTURD FOOL.

You are a gibbering libTURD, YOU are a creature of the so called "left".

OBJECTIVE FACT has NOTHING to do with anything that you say or do in your pitiful deluded life, except in your attempts to EVADE the objective TRUTH.

You started here defending the myth/fraud of MAN MADE glow bull warming. You have no science behind your delusion, you are just a TOOL who repeats what your masters tell you to repeat.

You then tried to fit all of us conservatives into your master's gibbering stereotypes.

You don't see people as individuals who have value and worth. Hell you HATE individuals. You get mad at the cats when you TRY to herd them.

You are a deeply stoopid, gibbering little cowardly libTURD cunt.

I did not have anything to do with you being a libTURD cunt, you ARE a libTURD cunt. All anybody needs to do is check your posts.

You HATE America, AMERICANS, and the AMERICAN way of life, which allows you to spew the foulest insults against us all.

YOU and YOUR ilk are the blood enemies of individual LIBERTY and the US CONSTITUTION.

I'm not here to make peace with you SCUM, I'm here to DESTROY and RIDICULE your invincible IGNORANCE and FAILED theology.

YOU support the TYRANTS of this world.

YOU are just one of the new "kapos", happy to help your own nation into the gas chambers as long as YOU get taken care of.

YOU ARE BASE TREASONOUS FILTH.

In the end you mean NOTHING tool.

Do you worst cunt.

I PISS on you.

ALL of which is the SIMPLE OBJECTIVE TRUTH cunt.

So .... WHINE away moron, your tears are SWEET!

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-16   22:06:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#206. To: Mad Dog (#205)

What now? Are you performing the copy paste routine? Is that the backup plan if what I say doesn't compute?

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-05-16   22:32:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#207. To: NewsJunky (#206)

...

LOL!

Here ya go tool, THIS is a logical FACT.

"TRUTH is an ABSOLUTE defense."

That means that if I speak the TRUTH, (which I TRY to do always), I am held harmless of speaking THAT objective TRUTH.

Pay attention here you libTURD FOOL.

You are a gibbering libTURD, YOU are a creature of the so called "left".

OBJECTIVE FACT has NOTHING to do with anything that you say or do in your pitiful deluded life, except in your attempts to EVADE the objective TRUTH.

You started here defending the myth/fraud of MAN MADE glow bull warming. You have no science behind your delusion, you are just a TOOL who repeats what your masters tell you to repeat.

You then tried to fit all of us conservatives into your master's gibbering stereotypes.

You don't see people as individuals who have value and worth. Hell you HATE individuals. You get mad at the cats when you TRY to herd them.

You are a deeply stoopid, gibbering little cowardly libTURD cunt.

I did not have anything to do with you being a libTURD cunt, you ARE a libTURD cunt. All anybody needs to do is check your posts.

You HATE America, AMERICANS, and the AMERICAN way of life, which allows you to spew the foulest insults against us all.

YOU and YOUR ilk are the blood enemies of individual LIBERTY and the US CONSTITUTION.

I'm not here to make peace with you SCUM, I'm here to DESTROY and RIDICULE your invincible IGNORANCE and FAILED theology.

YOU support the TYRANTS of this world.

YOU are just one of the new "kapos", happy to help your own nation into the gas chambers as long as YOU get taken care of.

YOU ARE BASE TREASONOUS FILTH.

In the end you mean NOTHING tool.

Do you worst cunt.

I PISS on you.

ALL of which is the SIMPLE OBJECTIVE TRUTH cunt.

So .... WHINE away moron, your tears are SWEET!

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-17   2:23:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#208. To: buckeroo (#132)

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ....;}

chirp.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-17   8:03:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#209. To: NewsJunky (#203)

You started here defending the myth/fraud of MAN MADE glow bull warming.

I haven't seen proof that it is a fraud. No one fired.. No fraudulent studies that had to be retracted. Nothing..

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-17   8:04:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#210. To: All (#209)

That's right, Minnesota Vikings fans care more about whether millionaire and billionaire fat cats have comfy sky boxes in which to plant their ample asses and while away some leisurely autumn Sunday afternoons than they do about whether their teachers still have their jobs, or their roads are in proper repair, whether there are enough police on the street to deter crime, or any other vital public service that has been feeling the squeeze from recent budget cuts. And don't forget, this is the same city where a major highway bridge collapsed just a few years ago, killing 13 people and injuring 145. Behold the glorious deeds which occur when Idiocracy meets assholocracy.

LA doesn't have the NFL.

Lucky LA....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-17   8:08:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#211. To: mcgowanjm, NewsJunky (#209)

.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You KNOW that you are in LOGICAL/FACTUAL trouble when mctoejam is on your side.

You two should get a room, or buy all the "carbon credits" that you can. Use your retirement savings.

LOL!

TOOLS!

LOL!

FOOLS!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-17   17:27:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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