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Title: Shortfall in California’s Budget Swells to $16 Billion (Moonbeam says Obama blocking budget cuts)
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Published: May 13, 2012
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LOS ANGELES — The state budget shortfall in California has increased dramatically in the last six months, forcing state officials to assemble a series of new spending cuts that are likely to mean further reductions to schools, health care and other social programs already battered by nearly five years of budget retrenchment, state officials announced on Saturday.


Gov. Jerry Brown, disclosing the development in a video posted on YouTube, said that California’s shortfall was now projected to be $16 billion, up from $9.2 billion in January. Mr. Brown said that he would propose a revised budget on Monday to deal with it.

“We are now facing a $16 billion hole, not the $9 billion we thought in January,” Mr. Brown said. “This means we will have to go much further and make cuts far greater than I asked for at the beginning of the year.”

Mr. Brown disclosed the news in a video that had all the trappings of a campaign announcement. In it, he aggressively accounted for the steps he said he had taken to try to scale back a $26 billion deficit he found upon taking office. And he urged viewers to back an initiative he is putting on the November ballot that would increase sales taxes by 0.25 percent and impose an income tax surcharge on wealthy Californians to try to stave off more cuts.

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#55. To: lucysmom, jwpegler (#51)

No one pisses and moans about the unfairness of life more than a conservative, it can be read right here of LF every single day.

You gibbering brain dead libTURD WHORE!

Put your money where your BIG FAT ASS is WHORE.

QUOTE ANY "CONSERVATIVE" on THIS site moaning about the "UNFAIRNESS of LIFE".

You CAN'T do it because as usual you gibbering bitch, you LIE.

I'll bet you $100.00 right now you simpering libTURD whore that you cannot find such a quote, (LOSER to pay Stone towards THIS site btw whore).

PUT UP OR SHUT UP WHORE.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-14   12:55:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: lucysmom, mininggold (#42)

Not to mention the three city workers you see leaning on shovels at city work projects while one guy with a shovel does all the work. Not nearly as costly as the free marketeers that crashed the world economy and then claimed bonuses.

You and mining need to get together and compare notes. She says they don't exist.

Which makes me wonder if she works for a city government.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   12:56:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: We The People (#45)

It doesn't actually predict any event that isn't astrnomical, other than the end of the calendar cycle.

Somebody needs to explain this to teebee reporters and reporterettes,not me.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   12:57:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: sneakypete (#56)

Which makes me wonder if she works for a city government.

Retired government employees, probably school teachers.

Their entire Modus operandi is geared towards protecting their 6 figure taxpayer- financed pensions.


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-05-14   12:59:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: sneakypete (#56)

You and mining need to get together and compare notes. She says they don't exist.

We don't disagree.

I just think It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans and am therefore not making the effort.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   13:02:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: jwpegler (#48)

Eliminate welfare. Fire government employees. Means test Social Security and Medicare. Done.

Yup. And require the churches and other charities to actually start using at least 75 percent of their intake to provide the necessary services for the people truly in need,or start paying taxes on income and property.

What will happen to these people? Will they just sit their and let themselves starve? NO, they will figure out a way to feed themselves, by getting a job or creating their own job.

I agree. Almost all will be screaming bloody murder at first because welfare is all they have ever known and it has never even occurred to them they could provide for themselves,never mind flourish. Thanks to the Poverty Pimps that run their churches.

I think in the long run most will end up being grateful once they accept reality and discover they really CAN provide a better living for themselves and feel better about themselves if they work.

It would be a tough sell at first,though. We are talking about a problem now that is multi-generational,and we now have grandparents that have never had a job in their lives.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   13:03:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Mad Dog (#49)

There are no crops to pick in San Jose FOOL. Those steaming tenements filled with non-english speakers are PRESUMED by this hag to be janitors. That's raciest!

Which means those people would no longer be a problem because once you cut off all the "Free" stuff they have been getting they would just go back to where they came from.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   13:07:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: lucysmom, sneakypete (#32)

Your response to life is far to emotional to be rational.

I merely confirm what Sneaky said.

It is YOU who brings emotion into the picture.

BTW, I notice that you fail to provide any data to back up your claims. Indeed, data is something you never introduce, because the data would always prove you to be a liar.

"Without data, you're just another person with an opinion."


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   13:21:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: jwpegler, sneakypete, lucysmom (#47)

Loonyming: I put to you that we have nothing left to grow into now, and so we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plaguei (sic). Like the original Dark Ages, I think this period will last near a Millenia, and who we are and how we come out of this at the end is anybody’s guess. Isn't that what the Mayan calender predicts?

sneakypete: PLEASE tell me you are kidding. This is out there. Even for you.

Jw: Of course she is NOT kidding. Mass murder is what leftists always do. This is why they must be defeated, at all costs.

It deserves to be repeated.

It doesn't matter whether they lable themselves fascists, socialists, communists, democrats OR republicans... Total government control ALWAYS results in mountains of skulls.

It is clearly detailed in the article The Political Spectrum Con. The Leftism that loony adheres to is total government control. She (foolishly) believes that it will allow her to keep collecting "free" government checks.

loonybitch, Brian S and the rest of the big-government shills and parasites, will have you believe that government is our savior.

Government is the enemy.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   13:28:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: sneakypete (#61) (Edited)

Which means those people would no longer be a problem because once you cut off all the "Free" stuff they have been getting they would just go back to where they came from.

You can tell your ignorant Alaskan mutt buddy for me that there are plenty of vineyards around San Jose and Almaden.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-14   13:33:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: jwpegler (#48)

The more I listen to these lazy shitheads, piss and moan about how unfair life is, the more I believe that we need to go cold turkey -- cut it all off, immediately. Eliminate welfare. Fire government employees.

I suspect that is exactly what is going to happen.

One of the first victims will be loonyming.

Means test Social Security and Medicare.

There won't be any. Since the money was stolen, and merely a stack of IOUs left, when the government goes bust, these programs will be relegated to the ash-heaps of history.

What will happen to these people? Will they just sit their and let themselves starve? NO, they will figure out a way to feed themselves, by getting a job or creating their own job.

I think a lot of them will end up in FEMA camps (remember, the ones they said "don't exist?"). They'll go to the government for handouts, and end up in hand-cuffs. Those that don't, will try to steal from the better- prepared, and end up dead. The lazy will simply hold out for help that will not come in time, and they suffer terribly- many of them dying.

I believe that thin veneer of society is going to be wiped away rather quickly, as the harsh realities set in.

"What will happen to these people," you ask? They'll get strong and tough, or they'll die. Simple as that.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   13:36:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: mininggold (#64)

there are plenty of vineyards around San Jose and Almaden.

LMAO!!!

Talk about IGNORANT!!!!!!!!!!!


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   13:37:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Capitalist Eric (#66)

LMAO!!!

Talk about IGNORANT!!!!!!!!!!!

There's no vineyards up in the hills???

LMAO

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-14   13:39:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: jwpegler, sneakypete, lucysmom, mininggold, buckeroo (#58)

probably school teachers.

+1

The authoritarian moonbat communist propaganda, is a dead giveaway. The NEA and Correctional unions run Cali.

Whinymold I figure for jail or mental institution. Progressive JBT's.


Restraining and sedating Buckeroo


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-05-14   13:43:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: sneakypete (#57)

It doesn't actually predict any event that isn't astrnomical, other than the end of the calendar cycle.

Somebody needs to explain this to teebee reporters and reporterettes,not me.

Actually I was explaining this to lucysmom. She's the one that brought up the 'predictions'.

Sorry for the confusion.

We The People  posted on  2012-05-14   13:44:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: mininggold (#67)

There's no vineyards up in the hills??? LMAO

No, there isn't.

You're just pulling this out of your ass... and looking like a FOOL doing it!

I lived there for 10 years, and drove all OVER the valley....

An equally absurd claim would be to say that Orlando is the Snow-board capital of the world...

JEEZ.......... ((( *eyeball roll ))


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   13:46:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Capitalist Eric (#63)

She (foolishly) believes that it will allow her to keep collecting "free" government checks.

What free government checks?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   13:47:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Capitalist Eric (#70)

You're just pulling this out of your ass... and looking like a FOOL doing it!

I lived there for 10 years, and drove all OVER the valley....

An equally absurd claim would be to say that Orlando is the Snow-board capital of the world...

JEEZ.......... ((( *eyeball roll ))

Then how do wines originate from that area?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-14   13:49:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Capitalist Eric (#65) (Edited)

There won't be any. Since the money was stolen, and merely a stack of IOUs left, when the government goes bust, these programs will be relegated to the ash-heaps of history.

They'll outlaw gold (like Roosevelt), and then pay off Socialist Insecurity and MediFraud with funny money (like the Wiemar Republic).

When inflation wipes out what little savings that Americans actually have, we'll all be equally broke...

We'll be a regular socialist paradise!


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-05-14   13:50:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: lucysmom (#71) (Edited)

What free government checks?

The ones you said were "promised" to you.

Oh, yeah, that's right.... you think you PAID INTO the system, and that you want it back "with interest."

FEH.

You DEMAND the freebies, and you don't GAS about anything else.

NEWSFLASH: You're gonna' be very disappointed.

As I said to you before, you're a parasite, trying to suck blood out of ME and MY FAMILY... It's the "marriage made in Heaven," as far as you're concerned.
I'm filing for a divorce.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   13:50:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Capitalist Eric (#66)

there are plenty of vineyards around San Jose and Almaden.

LMAO!!!

Talk about IGNORANT!!!!!!!!!!!

www.fogartywinery.com/

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   13:51:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: All (#72)

Picchetti Ranch trail

Cupertino

Naumann Vineyards - Naumann Estate Vineyards is located 2,000 feet atop Montebello Road. Naumann cultivates Merlot vineyards for low yield, high quality, and intense fruit, and also produces a great Chardonnay, sourced locally.

Picchetti Winery - We love their old historic buildings and peacocks wandering the grounds! Picchetti Winery features Chardonnay, Cabernet Sauvignon, Merlot, and more.

Ridge Vineyards - Located at the top of the Montebello Ridge. World class red wines, stunning views of Santa Clara Valley. Normally open only on Saturday and Sunday, and by appointment during the week.

Some of these wineries have restricted hours, or are not open to the public, except for special events. South Bay Wine Tours has special access to many wineries, with certain restrictions. (Restrictions may include up to 3 weeks advanced notice and a minimum/maximum # per group - please call for specific details on the wineries you are interested in)

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Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-14   13:52:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: lucysmom (#75)

www.fogartywinery.com/

Is in SANTA CRUZ.

Geography ain't your strength, IS it?

Hell, LOGIC ain't your strength, either!

LMAO.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   13:54:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Capitalist Eric (#70)

www.sanjose.org/content/wine-tasting

The Santa Cruz Mountains near San Jose were noted by Wine Spectator as the “the most underappreciated appellation in the world.” Below is a list of some ...

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-14   13:54:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: All (#78) (Edited)

So????

Do you think grapes for Napa wines are grown in the town of Napa?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-14   13:56:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Capitalist Eric (#70)

You're just pulling this out of your ass... and looking like a FOOL doing it!

I lived there for 10 years, and drove all OVER the valley....

You are the fool!

The Paul Masson Winery is a pretty popular local concert venue, I'm surprised you've never head of it.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   13:57:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Capitalist Eric (#74)

Oh, yeah, that's right.... you think you PAID INTO the system, and that you want it back "with interest."

That doesn't make the checks free, does it.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   14:00:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Mad Dog (#55) (Edited)

"UNFAIRNESS of LIFE".

You don't piss and moan about the "oppressive" government and liberals whose ideas you think have ruined the country? Both are here to stay and aren't going anywhere anytime soon. That's life..

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-05-14   14:00:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: mininggold (#76)

Picchetti Ranch trail ... Cupertino ... Naumann Vineyards - Naumann Estate Vineyards....

et al.

LOL.

You post the names of a bunch of tiny operations, and say "oh, there we are, San Jose is 'wine country.'"

Shit.

They have winery operations in Fresno, Idaho, Montana, North Dakota, Alaska, Florida, Nevada...... Pretty much EVERY state claims to have some winery.

Doesn't mean shit.

You'll have to do much better...


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   14:00:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: lucysmom (#80)

The Paul Masson Winery is a pretty popular local concert venue, I'm surprised you've never head of it.

I forgot Paul Masson, they've been around forever.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-14   14:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Capitalist Eric (#63)

It is clearly detailed in the article "The Political Spectrum Con".

38 views on that thread and only one comment.

And that was from some leftist who calls himself BorisY and as usual, makes absolutely no sense.

We The People  posted on  2012-05-14   14:02:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: lucysmom (#81)

That doesn't make the checks free, does it.

Were you making LEGIT claims on money paid, then the answer would be "no."

You don't just want what you paid in... you want to be paid in perpetuity. BIG difference.

Of course, were you smarter than a brick, you would have realized such ideas are absurd.

But you're one ignorant bitch, as you so proudly proclaim...


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   14:03:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Capitalist Eric (#83)

LOL.

You post the names of a bunch of tiny operations, and say "oh, there we are, San Jose is 'wine country.'"

Shit.

They have winery operations in Fresno, Idaho, Montana, North Dakota, Alaska, Florida, Nevada...... Pretty much EVERY state claims to have some winery.

Doesn't mean shit.

You'll have to do much better...

No one said that San Jose was wine country except you. It does contain a few appellations though.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-14   14:03:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: We The People (#85)

38 views on that thread and only one comment.

Indeed. It eviscerates the current thinking on the political spectrum, and leaves little to add...

A spectacular essay, in my opinion.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   14:04:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Capitalist Eric (#77)

Is in SANTA CRUZ.

What do you think those mountains you saw to the west during your 10-year stay in silicon valley are called?

Here's a map

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   14:05:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: lucysmom (#89)

What do you think those mountains you saw to the west during your 10-year stay in silicon valley are called?

The Los Altos Hills.

Thanks for playing.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   14:08:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Capitalist Eric (#86)

...you want to be paid in perpetuity.

I'm not immortal, you know.

Of course, were you smarter than a brick...

Careful! You're the guy who just claimed he knows for sure there are no vineyards in the mountain around silicon valley.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   14:12:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Capitalist Eric (#90)

The Los Altos Hills.

I know of two vineyards in Los Altos Hills.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   14:14:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: mininggold, sneakypete, Mad Dog (#87)

No one said that San Jose was wine country except you. It does contain a few appellations though.

You originally said (some post back in the 30's) "I wonder who else Sneaky thinks will pick all that produce and clean all those offices...?" Paraphrasing, here.

YOUR contention was that there is LOTS of produce to pick in the area Sneaky was referring to... namely, San Jose.

As to your idiotic idea, there isn't "all that produce" in San Jose; in reality, there's NONE to speak of. But of course, you knew that, and were just trying to distract from the main point of Sneaky, that's it's getting REALLY BAD there.

And to your second point- who will do the janitorial work- the answer is the same as any OTHER place in real life; entry-level LEGAL workers, instead of the illegal-alien-wetback scumbags who come here.

Mad dogs' assessment of you was right on the money; you ARE a fool.

Nothing new, there...


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   14:14:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: lucysmom, jwpegler, A K A Stone, hondo68, cz82, mad dog (#50) (Edited)

jwpegler: What will happen to these people? Will they just sit their and let themselves starve? NO, they will figure out a way to feed themselves, by getting a job or creating their own job.

Loonyming: Of course, without government employees, crime could be an attractive alternative.

My God...

Sometimes your idiocy is just... staggering.

You know what the difference is between the government and the Mafia?

The government has badges.

From HERE:

The US Government Is A Mafia Enterprise


By Karl W B Schwarz
1-9-12

Have you noticed that the US Government no longer seriously pursues cases involving Anti-Trust or RICO? Monopoly is now OK; premeditated criminal activity is OK, too. For all practical purposes stealing billions of dollars is OK and has happened many times over the past 20 years or so.

Can you envision how avoidance of anti-trust and RICO might be part of the same strategy?

How might one achieve that? Simply, get control of the government so prosecution is waived, laws are changed to legalize the criminal activity.

Have you ever wondered why they do nothing with white collar crime escalating to the point that the markets, banks, corporations and Congress are glaringly corrupt and engaged in unethical, immoral and illegal activity as 'business as usual'?

You see, Bernie Madoff made the mistake of stealing from the cabal members and had to go to prison. It really pissed off the cabal when a Jew steals from other cabal Jews. Corzine should be headed to prison but he only stole from normal citizens, not the cabal. His egregious actions at MF Global benefitted the criminal cabal. Get the distinction straight in your head because your financial future and quality of life is riding on it.

The only time they invoke anti-trust is when someone is stepping on the wrong toes with an attempted takeover. The only time they invoke RICO is when they wish to silence someone they do not like. They can, have and will apply the law backwards to protect their criminal enterprise.

For example, RICO has been applied to free speech and those pro-life people that picket abortion clinics. There is nothing inherently illegal about that or remotely racketeering in nature. The pro-life people were certainly not profiting from the abortions they are against. However, they have been targeted with RICO to block them from being pro-life activists. In this instance the application of the law was 180 degrees from its intended use.

Many Americans refer to the 'criminal cabal' that rules our nation but most truly do not grasp to what extent our government and corporations are truly controlled, influenced and directed by criminals. They enact law after law to line their pockets and stifle any dissent or ability to fight back.

This is not by accident, it is by criminal intent that the CEO slots, the board of directors and even Congress is littered with people who are mere fronts and puppets of the criminal cabal that really runs the pelf and plundering.

There is a simple explanation and even a trail to follow that explains how our nation has devolved from being a nation truly built on equity, equality, justice and rule of law to one nothing more than a sleazy specialized mafia syndicate that is sucking the life out of America and you.

In 1970 the US Congress enacted the RICO Act as part of the Organized Crime Control Act. It was a good idea at the time but like everything else Congress and Washington DC have done since Vietnam they managed to screw it up.

The article available at the following link will provide some background if a reader is truly interested in knowing how this started and how DC did what it always does, screw things up royally.

http://www.thirdamendment.com/rico.html

Oddly enough, the implied Third Amendment provision of right to privacy is what they have taken from you and have wrapped the cabal in as the 'flag' and 'patriotism' and 'defending America' from the boogeyman that truly wants the members of this criminal cabal dead. Yes, indeed, the real criminal cabal has many enemies and they cannot run the risk that Americans wake up and put an end to their RICO Empire.

The purpose of RICO was to break up the penetration of legitimate businesses and corporations by racketeering and criminals. Hence the name of the law: "Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organization". The law had a criminal part that could be used by federal and state prosecutors and a civil part that could be used by citizens to put an end to illegal activity, profiteering and plundering in illegal ways.

As the article link above reveals, there were only 300 criminal RICO actions between 1970 to 1980 and the number of legitimate actions has continued to drop as the criminal elements have taken full charge of our government and the fascist corporations that now control every nuance of policy, expenditures and who benefits by lining their pockets at the expense of the American people.

The idea was headed in the right direction until the criminals proved to be much smarter than the prosecutors and had penetrated major corporations, banks, Wall Street, Big Pharma, Big Defense, Big Oil, Big Energy, and even Congress, the judiciary and even the prosecuting attorney's office in many parts of America.

This 'criminal cabal' that calls itself the US Congress has even gone so far to pass laws that legalize stock fraud, grant immunity to defense contractors and Big Pharma so the money flow is not hampered by lawsuits and having to pay large damages. Under the Clinton Administration RICO was modified so that it could not be used in blatant stock fraud cases and shareholders utilize the anti-racketeering law to punish those who harmed them finically through premeditated stock fraud.

One has to consider the irony of Congress when they talk and pretend to be all about rule of law, good governance and transparency, yet cloak their every move in veils and lies.

They have indeed turned stock fraud into a legitimate industry in America by tweaking the laws to prevent justice, punishment and disgorgement of what was stolen by plan and by action. The reason that the 'Congressional investigation' of Global Crossing CEO Gary Winnick (a Michael Milken co-defendant) was such a comical farce is almost every person sitting on the committee and asking all of the softball questions with easy outs had received considerable campaign contributions from the very persons they were assigned to 'investigate'. Gary Winnick was not sent to prison because his actions lined the pockets of the criminal cabal rather than make the "Madoff Mistake" of stealing from them.

Williams Communications Group and Global Crossing were two cases I was directly involved in as high bidder in bankruptcy. We had amassed considerable evidence of how companies are created, financed and then premeditatedly forced into bankruptcy to move the assets into just the right hands for pennies on the dollar. Certain parties were shorting the debt (bonds) to create a debt covenant default while others were shorting the stock to keep the companies headed into bankruptcy and literally the theft of the assets from the equity shareholders.

You should not be surprised or shocked that it was Wall Street and their most favored clients that were conducting this illegal activity offshore and stealing hundreds of billions, trillions from unsuspecting investors.

Most Americans are not aware that in New York and Delaware where most bankruptcy cases are filed for publicly traded companies, the attorneys, financial advisors and others involved literally refer to themselves as The Bankruptcy Mafia.

The Clinton Administration and Congress also amended the US Bankruptcy Code in 1994 so that shareholders were further pushed out and reduced to not having a financial stake, standing or interest in the bankruptcy.

This was all planned and has amounted to trillions of dollars of investment money being stolen from unsuspecting investors by what is a racketeer corrupt influenced organization otherwise known as Wall Street, Congress, Big Telecom, Big Pharma, Big Oil and Big Defense.

That $2 trillion that Ben Bernanke refused to tell Congress where it went is not hard to figure out. Major governments, pension funds, corporate and private investors were launching a civil and criminal action against DC and Wall Street due to the egregious levels of fraud that was and is the US subprime mortgage fraud. It was criminal intent that created that problem and when parties decided to take action Helicopter Ben paid them $2 trillion in hush money.

The 'troika' is especially egregious in the triangle formed by Big Oil, Big Defense and Wall Street, and aided and abetted every step of the way by the Congress Critters we have all come to hate with a passion. There is truly nothing to love about them or even like about them, yet idiot Americans refuse to flush the toilet and start over with real leadership that would fix what the real problems are in the United States.

It does not take foreign or war policy to fix what is wrong inside of America. The laws are there, need to be amended and bring this criminal cabal to the halls of justice.

The Afghanistan War was conceived and launched with criminal intent. The Iraq War was conceived and launched with premeditation of aforethought and criminal intent in nature.

How do you feel about criminal elements affecting their bottom line to your detriment and affecting the course of America to their benefit and your detriment? Worse yet, that many of those who are elected or appointed are criminals and part of the larger scam to line their pockets and put the screws to you?

Seriously, how do you feel about that America?

What is even more sinister is how criminal elements have now penetrated our FBI, CIA, DOJ and every vestige of the last line of defense that could take these matters to court and clean up a lot of the fraud that has come to define America. It is no longer the bastion of liberty, freedom and democracy and the last thing these criminals stand for is the Rule of Law.

Too many Americans are failing to grasp that what Sibel Edmonds discovered inside of the FBI was a criminal cabal working against the best interests and security of America. Entire investigations were thwarted, such as Dancing Israeli Dominik Suter and his name surfacing on a European bank account that was used in the financing of 9-11. He fled back to Israel where he is still protected to this day from extradition to face questions and possibly criminal charges in the United States AS A PERPETRATOR OF SEPTEMBER 11, 2001.

Across the entire spectrum of 'free America' inequality is now the norm and it has fractured society in some very serious ways. That was planned by a criminal cabal.

Across the world those nations where equality is closer in real and economic terms, there is better education, better economic opportunity, less drug and alcohol abuse, lower infant mortality and teen pregnancies, less crime, lower homicide rates, lower imprisonment rates, lower instances of fraud, more social capital in the form of trusting others, better health and health care, better mental health, higher educational scores, and infant mortality and teen pregnancies are less in more equal nations.

America can now be defined as being severely unequal from top to bottom as the Middle Class is being crushed by the Criminal Cabal, AIDED AND ABETTED BY THE US GOVERNMENT, and more Americans are forced into poverty.

Most readers know I now live in Europe and it is comical that most people I have met around the world think all Americans are wealthy. Little do they know that a full one-third of Americans are living in poverty and that number will continue to grow as long as the Criminal Cabal continues to loot America in any manner they can.

The reason the US government does not prosecute the Mafia with RICO is the government, the major corporations and the Mafia are now one.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   14:22:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Capitalist Eric (#90)

Thanks for playing.

www.gourmetsleuth.com/Art...uz-mountain-wineries.aspx

Map of wineries in the Santa Cruz Mountians.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   14:23:09 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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