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Title: Obama's India Trip -- Not As Expensive As You May Have Heard
Source: USA TODAY
URL Source: http://content.usatoday.com/communi ... ensive-as-you-may-have-heard/1
Published: Nov 4, 2010
Author: David Jackson
Post Date: 2010-11-04 13:13:55 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 15357
Comments: 33

No, President Obama's trip is not going to cost $200 million a day.

That figure -- first thrown out by a single Indian media outlet and now viral on conservative talk radio -- is wildly, wildly off the mark.

The problem is that the costs for these trips are impossible to determine, for many of the president's expenses would be incurred whether he was visiting India or Atlanta or simply hanging around the White House. Obama's India trip starts an Asian swing that includes South Korea, Indonesia and Japan.

The administration isn't inclined to detail costs, most of which deal with security.

"The numbers reported in this article have no basis in reality," said White House spokesman Tommy Vietor. "Due to security concerns, we are unable to outline details associated with security procedures and costs, but it's safe to say these numbers are wildly inflated."

To be sure, these trips do cost millions of dollars per day.

Whenever a president travels, he or she takes a mini-White House with them, from bulletproof limousines to gaggles of aides. This can come in awfully handy when trouble happens, such as the terrorist attacks on 9/11 when George W. Bush was in Florida. Ronald Reagan was traveling in Asia when the Chernobyl nuclear plant in Russia blew up in 1986.

Foreign trips are expensive but are a staple of presidential duties. India is a rising economy power. It is next to -- and has an intense rivalry with -- one of the world's most dangerous countries, Pakistan. It can be a counterweight to threats from China. Any president is going to deal with India.

Indonesia is the world's largest Muslim majority nation. South Korea is the site of a G-20 global economic summit. Japan is hosting the annual Asian economic summit, which Obama's predecessors also attended. There's no evidence that Obama's team is spending any more money than its predecessors, taking inflation into account.

Yes, these gigs will cost money. But $200 million a day? Not even close.

One other thing to keep in mind: The Secret Service is not going to let anything happen to a president overseas if they can help it. They're going to do -- and spend -- whatever it takes. That's just a fact of life.

One last thing: The media organizations accompanying Obama will pay their own expenses.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Shit face could learn from Britains Cameron.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-21/cameron-travels-commercial-to-show-britons-he-pinched-pennies-on-u-s-trip.html

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-11-04   13:17:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S (#0)

Sorry, Brian S, but it is costing 200 million per day. The fucking fleet Carrier required by his Messiahness costs a million PER HOUR, let alone the other 33 ships required.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-04   13:26:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Badeye (#2)

The fucking fleet Carrier required by his Messiahness costs a million PER HOUR, let alone the other 33 ships required.

So are you saying that 'fleet' would be docked, sitting unmanned and not costing a penny if not for the President's visit?

/laughing

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2010-11-04   13:42:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Brian S (#3)

They might be doing something more useful like saving baby seals or something.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-11-04   13:44:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Brian S (#0)

The administration isn't inclined to detail costs, most of which deal with security.

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Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America said that some Americans ; "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-11-04   14:00:38 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Brian S (#3)

So are you saying that 'fleet' would be docked, sitting unmanned and not costing a penny if not for the President's visit?

Nope...I'm noting the reports of the cost of this ridiculously politically inept trip are EXACTLY whats been reported, 200 million per day.

Its nothing to laugh about, especially if you support POTUS. This is why he's a one term failure in the making.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-04   14:02:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Badeye (#6)

Can any one find the official W.H. denial of the costs?

Anyone?

Emir Hussein's Royal Caravan consists of 34 Warships, 40 planes, 3 Marine One choppers will will be reassembled in India , 3000 people.

"The entourage will be the biggest ever in terms of logistics and manpower for any US president."

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Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America said that some Americans ; "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-11-04   14:32:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Brian S (#0)

No, President Obama's trip is not going to cost $200 million a day.

If you haven't learned by now that facts don't matter at all to the loons, I just don't know what to tell you.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-11-04   14:44:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Skip Intro (#8)

If you haven't learned by now that facts don't matter at all to the loons, I just don't know what to tell you.

Wrote confirmed liar and racist Skip Intro.

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Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America said that some Americans ; "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-11-04   14:45:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Brian S (#0)

David Jackson

Which Administration position does David Jackson hold?

Anyone?

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Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America said that some Americans ; "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-11-04   14:48:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Badeye (#6)

Nope...I'm noting the reports of the cost of this ridiculously politically inept trip are EXACTLY whats been reported, 200 million per day.

Its nothing to laugh about, especially if you support POTUS. This is why he's a one term failure in the making.

could you provide us with the cost of Bush's frequent trips overseas and to crawford so we can make a fair comparison.

I really don't remember much outrage from the right over Bush's travels, but then again, I don't listen to Limbaugh.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-11-04   14:55:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Brian S, badeye, skip intro (#3)

So are you saying that 'fleet' would be docked, sitting unmanned and not costing a penny if not for the President's visit?

Don't worry Brian, after January 3rd the President won't be able to travel without GOP approval as the GOP will be responsible for appropriating all government funds.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-11-04   14:57:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: go65 (#12)

Don't worry Brian, after January 3rd

And that change is why the White House can't and will not deny the 200 million dollar a day costs.

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Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America said that some Americans ; "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-11-04   15:04:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: WhiteSands (#13)

And that change is why the White House can't and will not deny the 200 million dollar a day costs.

White House Reports That Cost Of Obama’s Trip To India Is Greatly Exaggerated

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2010-11-04   15:16:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Brian S (#14)

WH Admin refuses to say what the costs are.

Is it 30% off?

50% off?

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Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America said that some Americans ; "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-11-04   15:25:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: WhiteSands (#7)

Nope, and don't overlook the landbased aircraft flying out of Diego Garcia that IS NOT being counted, but I guarantee you are up 24/7 til the Messiah returns.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-04   15:37:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: go65 (#11)

could you provide us with the cost of Bush's frequent trips overseas and to crawford so we can make a fair comparison.

Its the most expensive Presidential trip in history, GO.

The political ineptness is astonishing, given what just happened Tuesday.

Its laughable you want to try and compare a flight on AF1 to Crawford with this.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-04   15:38:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: go65 (#12)

So are you saying that 'fleet' would be docked, sitting unmanned and not costing a penny if not for the President's visit? Don't worry Brian, after January 3rd the President won't be able to travel without GOP approval as the GOP will be responsible for appropriating all government funds.

Congressman Grayson, you might want to look at whats posted before bloviating. They don't tolerate this in the private sector you'll soon be trying to join.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-04   15:39:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Badeye, go65 (#17)

could you provide us with the cost of Bush's frequent trips overseas and to crawford so we can make a fair comparison.

Locate an article criticizing the costs of his trips.

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Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America said that some Americans ; "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-11-04   15:40:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: WhiteSands (#19)

Exactly. Bush went home to the most enviromentally friendly house any President in history has owned, and they excoriated him anyway.

That comparision GO is attempting just demonstrates how off balance he is from Tuesday's historic asskicking.

Even the really dim bulbs of the Left won't go there, for the obvious reasons.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-04   15:42:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Badeye (#20)

You realize that go65 is not opposed to deficit spending.

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Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America said that some Americans ; "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-11-04   15:43:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: WhiteSands (#21)

Sure. Liberals love spending Other Peoples Money..and when that runs out they just think you print more....lmao

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-04   15:45:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: WhiteSands, Badeye, SkipIntro, All (#7)

Emir Hussein's Royal Caravan consists of 34 Warships, 40 planes, 3 Marine One choppers will will be reassembled in India , 3000 people.

"I will take the liberty this time of dismissing as absolutely absurd this notion that somehow we were deploying 10 percent of the Navy -- some 34 ships and an aircraft carrier -- in support of the president's trip to Asia," Morrell said.

"That's just comical. Nothing close to that is being done," he said.

(emphasis mine)

www.google.com/hostednews...c4020d697d067ff57e4ad.431

Some people will fall for anything. Time to put on your critical thinking caps.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-11-05   10:04:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: lucysmom (#23)

"I will take the liberty this time of dismissing as absolutely absurd this notion that somehow we were deploying 10 percent of the Navy -- some 34 ships and an aircraft carrier -- in support of the president's trip to Asia," Morrell said.

Who?

'Some people will fall for anything. Time to put on your critical thinking caps.'

The irony of this statement is hilarious, goofy.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-05   10:07:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Badeye (#24)

Who?

Click on the link and read the article.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-11-05   10:24:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Brian S (#0)

The problem with this articlw is that No One has heard about this.

Only bloggers. 8D

Not once has the MSM even talked about Obama going to India. 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-05   10:38:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: mcgowanjm (#26)

Not once has the MSM even talked about Obama going to India. 8D

ABC's Good Morning American lead with the 'ridiculousness' of this story today.

Everybody is laughing at these teabagging 'kookish' claims. They even had a clip of Grand Mama Moonbat Bachmann making these hilarious statements.

Oh it's going to be an entertaining 2 years, indeed!

{{{chuckle}}}

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2010-11-05   11:58:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Brian S (#27)

ABC's Good Morning American lead with the 'ridiculousness' of this story today.

First of all:

ABC? You mean the ones who only weeks ago fired 35% of their news division?

I don't even watch them anymore. And that's with the mute on.

So tell me, just how abc intro'ed into the story.

'As you may know Obama is off to India today?'

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-05   12:12:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Brian S (#27)

And strange that you would take abc as a source for the Obama to India story.

Here's one of mine:

The USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier

The United States has deployed its fourth submarine in the Persian Gulf region following the deployment of three others near the Bahrain Port.

This comes as the USS Abraham Lincoln and French Charles de Gaulle aircraft carriers are heading toward the region.

The United States maintains twenty combat vessels, namely the USS Harry Truman aircraft carrier, as well as fifty-three logistical vessels, in the Persian Gulf and the Sea of Oman.

A total of thirty combat vessels are currently deployed in the region, including those belonging to Britain and France.

The USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier with 5,000 crew members, including sailors and pilots, has entered the territory of the US Fifth Fleet.

Abraham Lincoln is accompanied by USS Cape St. George and battlecruisers as well as four destroyers.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=21745

And I really don't give a fuck about how much it's costing Obama to go to India. My only question is: Why India? Why now?

And I look for Obama in Afghanistan/Pakistan/Iraq.

A 'surprise visit' in any of them, cause the US is welcomed in none.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-05   12:16:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Brian S, All (#29) (Edited)

BTW, it takes an aweful lot of Strong $'s to keep all of those warships afloat. 8D

" "President Obama stands passively mute while Mitch McConnell and the Republicans walk him like a dog."

"Republicans don't have any interest in working with this president or improving the lives of the American people because they're really only interested in one thing-- Their stated goal is to get power back. That's it. It's about power.

Bernie Sanders said, "I think it leaves the impression that the president does not want to rally the American people against right wing extremism."

We've got til Thanksgiving Eve. Collapse happening as we speak.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-05   12:18:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: mcgowanjm (#29)

And strange that you would take abc as a source for the Obama to India story.

Hey, it was on after our local news & weather and I didn't feel like finding the remote and changing the fucking channel.

Piss off if you don't like the source. You of anybody questioning 'sources' is laughable, indeed!

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2010-11-05   12:22:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Brian S (#27)

Everybody is laughing at these teabagging 'kookish' claims.

Yep...as they have for the last 18 months.

How's that working out for you on the Left?

(laughing)

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-05   13:29:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Brian S, All (#31)

You of anybody questioning 'sources' is laughable, indeed!

Why. I'm forced to source every fucking time.

Any deviation is censored immediately.

And that makes you laugh?

BWAHAHAHAHAHA 8D

So, to recap. You're sitting in your BarcoLounger. Schoolbus forecasts and local mug shots of Crazyland stupid Meth addicts and JesusTeachers roles to Furniture/Car Sale commercials...and then... wait for it...

Bottom of the Hour, Stephanopoulos/Lady beaming at America, talking about the latest 'happenings'. Which is:

Crazytown Reps saying Obama fleeing the nation for India with 34 Warships and it will cost $200 million for the trip.

I got that right?

LMFAO. Now give me the source explicitly. Tick Tock.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-06   9:57:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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