COVID's over. Now it's just an endemic background disease, like flu. When it first hit, most people got vaccinated, and in that first attack of the virus on an uprotected population, the death toll was highest. Vaccine then cut that death toll sharply. But it's been going down ever since, both because of high vaccination rates, and the native immunity of people who got it and gained immunity. I think my daughter has had it (testing confirmed) four times. Now, she only knows she has it because of getting tested because other people around her have it.

Democrats crave keeping the hysteria going, because of the power it gave them. But the people broadly have common sense and won't let them.

At some point, vaccines are nearly useless, and perhaps even riskier than whatever you're trying to prevent. In Summer 2020? No. In December 2023? Yes.

Only morons took that gene editing shit. I mean really stupid people. only morons wore masks. Those mask wearers are so stupid they would put up a chain link fence to keep out mosquitos. Now the studies show I was right not to wear a mask. I mean why would you wear something that makes you more susceptible. So many weak pussies who do what they are told. bah bah bah

wow 4 times. That probably means she was vaxxed. Those are the ones that get it over and over. Some people are so "smart" they become stupid and regurgitate evil statist talking

Well, the statistics are that at the height of COVID, the region with the lease deaths from COVID was New England, with nearly 100% vaccination rates, while the region with the most COVID deaths was the Deep South (minus Florida), with below 50% vaccination rates. So at the height of COVID, that first vaccine appears to have saved a lot of lives.

Masks did little to nothing, and I personally always hated them.

Now, everybody has some immunity from the vaccines or from having had COVID, and COVID's effects are less virulent, so it's a spent force.

The politics of COVID were ridiculous.

On the vax and mask side, the oppression was obvious.

And on the other side, the refusal to vaccinate in the first wave cost a lot of people their lives.

The survivors of both excesses are now more resistant.

China vaxxed with a vaccine that didn't work, and they suffered millions of deaths on account. Too politically stubborn to buy vaccines that worked.

"Democrats crave keeping the hysteria going, because of the power it gave them."

Unfortunately, far too many Republicans bought into the hysteria as well...and the PowersThatBe in the GOP ain't immune from a similar power- lust...MUD

Now, she only knows she has it because of getting tested because other people around her have it.

You're such a bonehead...letting your daughter be tested and vaxxed.

because of the power it gave them.

Democrats tapped into the power of the white horse rider (Rev6:1,2)

And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

"he that sat on him had a bow"...the greek word for bow is "toxon" as in something toxic.

"a crown was given unto him"...self explanatory, the crown being the crown/corona virus (actually the corona virus was merely the common cold that was suggested to people to be a deadly virus).

"and he went forth conquering, and to conquer"...the conquering took place in the form of worldwide mandates...humanity forced at gun point into house arrest, solitary confinement, prohibited from working, worshipping, travelling. The mask was the sign of being conquered.

All setting the stage for the anti-Christ.

Do you still not understand?

I understand what you say. I don't think it's on target.

I don't think it's on target.

There is always the possibility that I am wrong about my application of the seal judgments.

But please note: two more seals appear to have opened: the second seal in Feb.2022 and the third seal which is upon us now.

And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword. Rev.6:3,4

And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine. Rev.6:5,6

The second seal is the taking of peace from the earth, and the third seal is the targeted inflation we are dealing with presently.

Add to this the Abraham Accord that was signed in Sept.2020, fulfilling the prophecy of Daniel 9:27.

And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. Dan9:27

Confirmed by Paul:

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 2Thes2:3,4

Also in 2Thes2:3,4 is yet another indicator: the "falling away" (in the Greek "falling aside" temporarily) which would explain the stupor in the churches today.

There are simply too many events at hand for this to be dismissed without heeding the command to "prove all things" (to the point of exhaustion).

I don't mean to be mean here; it is not my intention. I am truly telling you my thoughts. They are not aimed at you, but they do concern the things upon which you base your entire life and mode of thinking. Anything truthful I say on the subject that is truthful greatly diminishes the importance of these things that you hold dearest. It's not intended as an attack on you, but you have identified so closely and personally with these texts that you cannot help but defend them - a criticism of them is criticism of you. Which then provokes your attack. There is a difference, in my mind, between me pointing out what I see as contradictions within Paul, between Paul and Jesus, and just a general Pauline attitude that doesn't look holy to me at all, just simply ancient and crabbed and oppressive. My saying that is not me calling YOU any of those things. But you will respond as though it were a personal attack, and you will respond with a personal attack on me, on my intelligence, and that will make me angry. I attack Paul, and you attack me in response.

So I am very, very leery about explaining myself in any great detail here, especially not in this Christmas season, when I'm caught up in the "Peace of Earth, Goodwill to men!" feelings.

I will then be very brief. I don't think Paul speaks for God; he speaks for Paul. Some of what he says I agree with it. Other things are ridiculous, and mean, and contrary to Christ. He is in the Bible, which diminishes the Bible, as does all of the barbarism in the Books of Moses and other parts of the Old Testament. It COULD be that God is that barbaric, and every stride we have made towards civilization is against that very God. I don't believe that, but it could be. That does not persuade me to worship what I perceive to be a demon. In short, I do not think it is real.

Jesus is a separate case. If what we have of him really is what he said, I think he was a good man about some things, and deluded on others. Still, his moral precepts are mostly good. (Jesus' opposition to thrift, because he's coming back that very generation! Well, HE believed that. But anybody who followed him suffered horrible deaths, either outright martyrdom, or grinding poverty. Because the world DIDN'T end, generation after generation (Jesus said it wouldn't get past that one in which he lived), Jesus' teachings against thrift are bad advice. Can't follow him there, because he's wrong.

When we get to the seals and riders, etc., it's like the Flood. I know you believe in both, literally, and shape your hole world on that premise. And I know that you will live in that belief, and die in it, and the world will go on, and you won't know. So there is no way to persuade you otherwise, and I won't try. I myself do not see these signs and seals and horsemen, etc., as having any real bearing on the world.

That a virus has spikes on its surface and so falls into the category of similar viruses, all named "crown" viruses - corona in Latin - does not, to me, have any reference to some pale rider wearing a crown. To me, that is an imaginative use of images. I applaud the ingenuity, but it's not real.

My actual name is Stephen, which means "Crown". Am I, therefore, a horseman of the apocalypse, sent to deceive? Not to my knowledge.

So, seeing you link present events to the Biblical tales is interesting - a tour-de-force. But I feel none of the urgency you do about it all, because I just don't think it's real.

the things upon which you base your entire life and mode of thinking.

these things that you hold dearest.

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him. And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. John 6:63-65

Yes, I hold dearly the Word of God. Jesus said that His Words are "life"...and they are.

The Word of God is as it should be...life itself.

You have an obsession with Paul. I believe Paul has written some things that convict your conscience, and therefore you disallow his letters.

But my post was not about Paul. It was about the flood of evidence for the fulfilment of prophecies...happening right in front of us.

More replies to your comment after I run some errands.

Concerning Paul (briefly) please name one mean thing that stands out in your mind. Paul is in the Bible because he wrote his letters under the inspiration of God. He wrote these words:

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. 2Tim3:16,17

And yet Paul himself did not canonize his own letters, but his letters were circulated among the first churches and were accepted by these first believers as coming from God (through Paul).

Peter wrote these words and they apply to Paul's letters:

For the prophecy came not in olden times by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. 2Peter1.21

He is in the Bible, which diminishes the Bible, as does all of the barbarism in the Books of Moses

The world was a barbaric place...until grace and truth came into the world through Christ. 2000 years of grace and truth has made the world a better place. Imagine if you lived prior to the age of grace. The world was totally inhospitable to humankind. But grace came into the world...amazing grace (how sweet the sound).

Jesus' opposition to thrift,

Not sure what you are referring to here. Give me a 'for instance', please.

because he's coming back that very generation!

When Jesus said: "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled", He is talking about the future generation that would see the events He is describing IN THE CONTEXT. And I believe that our generation is the one to see those prophetic events unfold. We are seeing them now. But the bottom line is that all Christians need to do the work I am doing. Watching, digging, proving. I have done this work and I am telling you that the events before us today add up to fulfilment. I have a certainty that comes from almost two decades of watching. Can I be wrong? Certainly.

Why even try?

You clearly believe what you believe, and are committed to it.

Why even try?

Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences. 2Cor.5:11

You clearly believe what you believe, and are committed to it.

Tell me, what else is there?

oppressive

Fag sex and transfaggots are oppressive right? You think pervert sex is ok, it's just sex.

Why even try?

To prove you are not a pussy who is all talk. Put up or shut up. I think you'll go with shut up when you're getting beat you put your tail between your legs and run away.

To prove you are not a pussy who is all talk. Put up or shut up.

Everybody here is all talk all the time. This is a chat board.

I'll try to muster the gas(Give A Shit) to do it...tomorrow.

Sex is not oppressive at all, unless it's rape. That's oppressive.

People worrying about what other people are doing in their bedrooms - that can get oppressive, if they take any steps to enforce some sort of rule.

The trans have gotten quite oppressive with their hate speech codes.

With gays, it was a matter of ignoring it - but the trans seek to actively force you to obey their speech codes. No.

As far as what watchman says goes, I simply do not believe that the things he believes are true. That's all there is to it. Trying to threaten me with dire warnings about things that I think are fantasies does not make me worry at all. It's just annoying. I withdraw because I prefer to continue to be civil, not because I feel "beaten" in any way at all.

Talking with somebody about their deep religiously-held views that one does not hold one's self gets one-sided pretty quick.

And note well: the one-sided nature of the conversation is not because there is any truth in the assertions of the religious side, but because the person on the other side of the conversation literally cannot say anything without being accused of some sort of heresy that only exists in the religious person's mind.

I could give an example, but again, why exercise myself? I am perfectly understandable. Whenever I try to explain myself, what I say is ignored out of hand, and ,my interlocutor seeks to tell me what I REALLY meant, which is REALLY behind it all.

It's not very charitable to tell that person that what is REALLY behind what he believes is delusion and lunacy, is it? No, it isn't. So I prefer to just step away. I'm not stepping away beaten, I'm stepping away tired from trying so damned hard to be nice, and not having that consideration given in return.

I don't feel any sting from someone telling me I'm going to Hell - who the Hell is HE to be pronouncing judgments? Nobody. And nothing. But having someone say that sort of thing over and over MEANS there is no real communication, so why persist in it?

It's not very charitable to tell that person that what is REALLY behind what he believes is delusion and lunacy, is it?

For you, the covid scam is a "deeply religious-held" belief.

You proselytize here about testing and vaxxing.

I'm just returning the favor with the truth about the covid scam.

But having someone say that sort of thing over and over MEANS there is no real communication, so why persist in it?

Had you not brought up the covid scam involving your daughter, I would have never replied to you.

BTW, you ARE going to hell, and the vax is speeding up the process.

Good luck, Vic, when that clot hits your brain, and you wake up in the fire.

PS. You say you are a lawyer. Therefore, you must understand the concept of crime and punishment, the presiding of a Judge, and the rendering of a verdict.

Heb9.27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment

You're going to need a good lawyer, but it will be too late to acquire One.

You are cordially invited to take a long walk off a short pier.