But if you wish, you can wear 2 masks.

Why just 2 why not 5 masks.

Why no flu this year. What a fantastic question. Please allow me to enlighten you with an answer that may shock you. Flu Season 2020-2021: Flu activity us at historic lows with mask- wearing. Read story at https://www.today.com/health/flu-season-2020-2021-flu-activity- historic-lows-mask-wearing-t207131 In a typical year, rising flu cases would be dominating the headlines in January. Not in 2021. The flu activity maps look very different for the same week in January 2020, compared to 2021, with most states reporting minimal activity this year: I don't wear a mask and never got the virus. That proves nothing. People who wear the masks (look sickly and stupid) … You have posted that you wear masks when you do dry wall work. I can’t see someone saying that you look “sickly and stupid” when you are wearing the mask for protection while on the job? Have they ever? … have got [t]he virus. That proves nothing. The mask makes you more susceptible to the virus because it holds it there and makes you breathe it over and over. That’s only your “belief.” Beliefs are considered false when the views are contrary to established scientific evidence. There is no scientific evidence to support “your belief.”

The mask makes you more susceptible to the virus because it holds it there and makes you breathe it over and over.

The entire world is masked up, but Covid cases keep increasing.

Therefore...masks are spreading the virus.

Warn everyone!

Gatlin I've heard that they haven't even isolated the virus. Is that true? Stone, I have no idea whether that is true, or not. And I have absolutely no reason – or interest – to try to chase down another of your hearsay (disambiguation) rumors. Moving along …

But if you wish, you can wear 2 masks. Why just 2 why not 5 masks. Double-Masking: How Two Masks [Or More] Block Covid-19 Coronavirus Better Than One: So how about wearing two face masks then? That’s one on top of another and not one over your mouth and nose and the other over your eyes. Well, let’s take a look at how face masks work. First of all, wearing something is better than wearing nothing, which is a good general rule, even when you aren’t talking about face masks. Without anything covering your nose and mouth, you could be spewing out virus-laded particles into the air with every breath you take, especially if you are singing the song “Tub Thumping.” Because while you may be sexy and know it, you could be infected with the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV2) without knowing it. A single face mask can block this spew and decrease the amount of virus that reaches the air. Wearing a face mask may also protect you as well. It could provide some barrier to entry, blocking at least some viruses from getting into your nose and mouth. A cloth face covering or a surgical mask is not going to protect you as well as an N95 mask. But again, something is better than nothing. So wearing a face covering is nice for everyone around you and possibly you too. But can two masks be twice as nice? In theory, a virus should have a tougher time getting through two layers than just one layer. In a commentary in the journal Med, Monica Gandhi, MD, MPH, a Professor of Medicine at the University of California, San Francisco (UCSF), and Linsey C. Marr, PhD, the Charles P. Lunsford Professor of Civil and Environmental Engineering at Virginia Tech, recommended wearing at least a “high-quality surgical mask or a fabric mask of at least two layers with high thread count.” But they added that wearing a cloth mask tightly on top of a surgical mask could provide even more protection. Anthony Fauci, MD, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) favors double- masking too. As you can see this segment from the Today show, Fauci said, “If you have a physical covering with one layer, you put another layer on, it just makes common sense that it likely would be more effective”: If two layers are better than one layer, how about three layers? Gandhi and Marr did mention a three-layer mask as a possibility for extra protection. Such a mask could have two outer layers made out of a flexible, tightly woven fabric that can conform to your face and sandwich a middle layer. The middle layer shouldn’t be a creamy, high fructose corn syrup and soy lecithin filling. You are providing a barrier to your nose and mouth, not making an Oreo cookie. Instead, the middle layer should be something like vacuum bag material that can filter out small particles. If three is better than two, how about four? Or five? Or 271 face masks? Well, at some point, too many face masks could become too heavy and make you topple over like Toucan Sam wearing high heels. Plus, there is the whole breathing thing. One face mask probably won’t really impair your breathing. Neither will two face masks, depending on the material. However, adding more and more mask layers may eventually make it tougher to exchange air, assuming that you are not a ficus plant. The optimal number of face masks is a balance between filtering and breathing and depends on the structure and material of the mask. Naturally, a face mask made out of concrete is going to be tougher to breathe through than one out of a porous cloth. The other issue is fit. Make sure that at least one of the face masks that you wear fits snugly on your face. It should not leave gaps between your face and the mask that allow viruses to drive little trucks through them. A second mask can actually help the mask closest to your face fit more snugly. Like Edward hugging Bella on the Twilight series, the outer mask can push the inner mask closer to your face. But as is the case with marmots in your bedroom, more masks is not necessarily better. Sometimes additional face masks can actually pull other face masks off your face. Therefore, as they say on the London subway, mind the gap. And for Pete’s sake, keep the mask over both your mouth and your nose. Consider a face mask to be underwear for your face, and don’t let anything stick out so to speak. Some have suggested that two non-N95 masks can get close to the protection offered by one N95 mask. This may be some premature speculation though. After all, N95 masks tend to have other mechanisms that can prevent viruses from getting through, such as interlacing fibers that create rather tortuous paths and an electrical charge that may cause small particles to stick to the fibers. A href=https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/01/26/double-masking- how-two-masks-block-covid-19-coronavirus-better-than-one/? sh=790102f6bf48>https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/01/26/double- masking-how-two-masks-block-covid-19-coronavirus-better-than-one/? sh=790102f6bf48 All told, double masking in most cases will provide more protection than single-masking. That’s protection for others and potentially for you. This can be true even when the inner mask is an N95 one. N95 masks aren’t perfect and could benefit from extra protection. Moreover, an outer covering can keep the N95 mask from getting dirty and wet. And in this situation, dirty and wet is not good. You two guys were on to something – and you didn’t even realize it ….

But if you wish, you can wear 2 masks. Why just 2 why not 5 masks. San Diego researchers say double masking could slow the spread of COVID- 19. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/health/story/2021- 01- 29/san-diego-researchers-say-double-masking-could-slow-the-spread-of- covid-19

The entire world is masked up, but Covid cases keep increasing. Face masks slow spread of COVID-19. Furthermore: “Pandemic could be stopped if at least 70 percent of the public wore face masks consistently.” Using face masks to help slow the spread of COVID-19 has been widely recommended by health professionals. This has triggered studies of the materials, design, and other issues affecting the way face masks work. In a new study, investigators looked at research on face masks and their use and summarized what we know about the way they filter or block the virus. They also summarize design issues that still need to be addressed. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/11/201124111349.htm

if at least 70 percent of the public wore face masks consistently

95-100 percent of the public wears a mask.

Covid is spreading.

The masks are speading the virus.

It's science.

95-100 percent of the public wears a mask. Covid is spreading. Ahem … Different conclusions can be drawn from various statistics depending on one's perspective, but actually, statistics don't always tell the whole story. They aren't as definite as many people lead on. Of those “95-100 percent of the public wears a mask” – A survey indicates that most U.S. residents recognize the protective importance of wearing a mask in public, and about 9-in-10 are using face coverings at least sometimes. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-is-the-biggest-mistake-people- make-while-wearing-a-face-mask-2020-07-24 REPEATING: 9-in-10 are using face coverings at least sometimes – SOMETIMES. So, why is Covid spreading? Vast Majority of Americans Support Wearing Masks, But a Deeper Look at Behavior Reveals Troubling Lack of Adherence: Several recent surveys in the United States, including our own USC Dornsife Center for Economic and Social Research’s Understanding Coronavirus in America tracking survey, have shown that most Americans say they are wearing masks. In our survey, only a small minority of U.S. residents claim masks are a health hazard or political gimmick. However, even though mask-wearing seems to be widespread, we also find that many people have not been wearing them according to recommended guidelines, and there are different mask-wearing norms in different areas of the country. In a mid-July ABC News/Washington post poll, 6-in-10 wore a mask all of the time and another nearly 1-in-4 some of the time. In an Axios/Ipsos poll from early August, two-thirds claimed to be wearing a mask at all times, and more than 1-in-5 sometimes. Our own tracking graphs have shown a steady upward trend in mask wearing over the last few weeks, increasing from 8-in-10 in early June to 9-in-10 in early August. As shown in the chart below, our survey shows that mask-wearing has differed significantly by location: Wearing a mask was adopted most quickly and broadly in urban areas and has changed little over the late spring and summer. Mask-wearing in the suburbs was at 80% by May and continued to increase during the summer to reach 89% in August. In rural areas where outbreaks were rare in the spring, fewer residents were wearing masks than in other areas and mask-wearing had started to decline in late June. However, after coronavirus cases in some previously untouched areas began to spike in July, mask-wearing increased more than 10 percentage points in rural areas and reached 83% in August. The high proportion of U.S. residents wearing masks would seem to be good news for helping to control the spread of the virus. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommendations for inhibiting the spread of the virus include social distancing, and wearing a mask in public settings and when in close proximity to people who don’t live in your household. Even President Trump, once publicly skeptical of mask-wearing, has now recommended that his supporters wear masks. Recent research has indicated that mask-wearing is important and helps slow the spread of the coronavirus. The latest projection models from the University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation indicate that if everyone in the country wore a mask when needed 66,000 fewer people would die from COVID-19 by December 1. Our own research indicates that most U.S. residents view masks as protective. We asked tracking survey participants to indicate if they agreed or disagreed with several statements about wearing masks and face coverings. Overall, nearly two-thirds of respondents in our most recent survey agreed that wearing a mask keeps them safe from the virus and three-fourths agreed that it keeps others safe. Indeed, at the time of this writing some parts of the country that were slower to implement social distancing and mask-wearing guidelines and some states, like California, where loosening of restrictions in June undid earlier work of containing the virus had been forced to take additional measures to contain outbreaks. The increase in mask wearing we are seeing in recent weeks may be a contributing factor to the recent flattening of curves in many of these places. However, the adoption of CDC guidelines for mask wearing has not been consistent and goes beyond merely location. We took a deeper look at the behavior of those who have been venturing out of their homes this summer and what we found indicates that many people who said they were wearing masks have not been doing so according to recommended guidelines, nationwide. Participants in our tracking survey were asked: if they had been in close contact (within 6 feet) with non-household members in the prior week; gone to a friend, neighbor or relative’s house; shopped at a grocery store; attended a gathering of more than 10 people; had gone outside to exercise; or attended in-person religious services, among other behaviors. Those who had done each of these activities were asked how often they wore a face mask or covering: always, most of the time, sometimes, rarely or never. The highest incidence of both the activity and mask-wearing was in grocery shopping. Most residents had shopped for groceries in the prior week, and 85% wore a mask while shopping. About three quarters went out for exercise, but only 2-in-10 wore a mask while doing so. Some evidence points to lower incidence of spread outdoors, particularly in sunshine, and we have all seen the photos of crowded beaches full of mask-free sunbathers. CDC guidelines do make an exception for people who may have trouble breathing while doing vigorous exercise outdoors. The chart also shows that other activities were less common but potentially more problematic. Indoor activities, singing, and drinking alcohol all generate conditions where social distancing is difficult and conditions are more conducive for spread. Roughly half of residents reported that they had close contact with non-household members in the prior week and nearly four-in-10 visited someone else’s home. Smaller proportions – roughly one-in-10 in each case – attended a gathering of more than 10 people, went to in-person religious service, or went to a bar, club or other gathering place. In each of these situations, fewer than half of those who were engaged in the activity wore a mask most of the time. We see evidence that people are wearing masks more frequently following the resurgence of the virus in June, particularly in the areas that were slower to adopt them. The chart below shows a small but statistically- significant increase in recommended mask-wearing behaviors among rural and suburban residents when they are in close proximity to non-household members. Not shown are similarly small but significant increases in mask-wearing among people in rural and suburban areas attending gatherings of 10 or more, visiting others in their homes, and attending in-person religious services. However, the charts also show that as of late July, 46% of urban residents, 54% of suburbanites, and two-thirds of rural residents were still not routinely wearing masks when in close proximity to non- household members. Mask-wearing while grocery shopping increased strikingly over the summer, as many retail chains and grocery stores began mandating, rather than recommending, that shoppers wear masks. Overall, the percentage of grocery shoppers who wore a mask all or most of the time increased twelve percentage points – from 73% to 85% – from June to August. As shown in the chart below, the greatest increase in mask-wearing was among rural grocery shoppers who were sixteen percentage points more likely to wear a mask in late August than in June, along with those in the suburbs who were fourteen points more likely. However, one out of four rural grocery shoppers still were not routinely or ever wearing a mask in late July compared to one out of ten urban shoppers and 12% of those in the suburbs. When those who feel strongly against wearing masks attack others for doing so, it makes for dramatic news stories and viral videos. However, our survey finds that strong feelings against masks are fairly rare across the country, if somewhat more pronounced in rural areas. Roughly 1-in-10 residents overall saw masks as dangerous to their health (9%), or as being a political statement (13%). Only 7% indicated that wearing a mask is unnecessary because coronavirus is not a serious threat. One-in-four overall agreed that masks are too uncomfortable to wear. Almost no one indicated that they cannot afford to wear a mask (3%). Just over 2-in-10 nationwide, and more than 3-in-10 in rural areas, agreed that no one can force them to wear a mask because this is a free country; a position one can hold even while wearing a mask. Strong feelings against mask-wearing were more pronounced in rural areas, with 30% saying that masks are too uncomfortable to wear, 16% seeing masks as dangerous, 17% seeing mask-wearing as political. Interestingly, only 1-in-10 rural residents believe masks are not necessary because the virus is not a serious threat. In summary, our survey indicates that most U.S. residents recognize the protective importance of wearing a mask in public, and about 9-in-10 are using face coverings at least sometimes. Our findings indicate that mask-wearing norms are different depending on the type of area where you live, with rural residents being the slowest to adopt face coverings. We also see evidence that mask wearing behaviors have increased somewhat across the summer resurgence of the coronavirus. Only small minorities believe that masks are dangerous to health, or view them as a purely political gimmick. However, more troubling, our findings also indicate that the nearly 6- in-10 residents who are no longer staying home except for exercise and essentials are not always wearing masks in situations where they are recommended. These mixed findings, and their variation by location, may be the result of the kinds of mixed messages and mixed sets of recommendations and regulations provided at the federal and state level. The much higher level of adherence to mask-wearing while grocery shopping, compared to other situations with potential for virus transmission, may be the result of major retailers and grocery chains like Walmart, Costco, and Kroger requiring shoppers to wear face coverings in their stores. Even hold-outs like Winn Dixie began requiring masks in late July. Given the reluctance of many individuals to adhere to safety recommendations for social distancing and mask- wearing, it is even more important for government at the federal, state and local levels to provide a coherent and unified approach. It is difficult to see how containment will be possible, otherwise. About the survey: The source of this report is the COVID-19 tracking survey “Understanding Coronavirus in America,” Participants in the survey are members of the probability-based online panel The Understanding America Study, which is maintained by the Center for Economic and Social Research at the University of Southern California. The report references nine waves of data collected between March 10 and August 4, 2020. Graphs from the tracking survey are updated daily online. For more information about the way the survey was conducted, visit uasdata.usc.edu. The content of this publication is solely the responsibility of the authors and does not necessarily represent the official views of USC or CESR. The collection of the COVID-19 tracking data is supported in part by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and by grant U01AG054580 from the National Institute on Aging. https://healthpolicy.usc.edu/evidence-base/vast- majority-of-americans-support-wearing-masks-but-a-deeper-look-at-mask- wearing-behavior-reveals-troubling-lack-of-adherence-to-social- distancing-recommendations/ Avoid these Wrong Mask-Wearing Techniques. https://hive.rochesterregional.org/2020/07/how-not- to-wear-a- mask#:~:text=Researchers%20found%20that%20wearing%20masks,do%20more%20ha rm%20than%20good. Perhaps the biggest mistake that many folks are making with face masks — besides not wearing them in public at all — is pulling the facial coverings down so that the nose is exposed. Amid the ongoing debate over when and where people should wear masks, and the mixed messaging behind tha – you need to understand what’s perhaps been lost in the din is the correct way to put on a mask to actually help prevent the spread of COVID-19 in the first place. With “95-100 percent of the public wearing a mask” – What percentage of those are wearing incorrectly? You BELIEVE only what you want to BELIEVE. Tragically …. .

First you say : Covid is a hoax, Then you say here that: Covid is spreading. Which is it …

Which is it …

Isn't it obvious?

The hoax is spreading.

Duh...

Which is it … Isn't it obvious? The hoax is spreading. Duh... The coronavirus pandemic is not a hoax or a conspiracy to control the general public: A video shared online has claimed that the coronavirus pandemic is a hoax and part of a conspiracy to control the general public. This is false. A post sharing the video can be viewed here (here). The opening sequence shows billionaire philanthropist Bill Gates, warning that “we will have to prepare” for the next pandemic. The narrator then uses points to argue that the pandemic was planned, and claims it is a hoax that is being used as an excuse to control the general public. CLAIM 1 - THE VIRUS THAT CAUSES COVID-19 HASN’T BEEN IDENTIFIED OR ISOLATED “They’ve never isolated it or actually identified this virus as actually existing, so the whole thing is just a big scam”, the narrator claims (here). This is not true. Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS- CoV-2) is the name of the virus that causes the disease COVID-19 (here). According to the World Health Organization (WHO), the virus was identified by Chinese authorities on January 7, 2020 (tinyurl.com/y5at3vke). CLAIM 2 - TEST FOR COVID-19 BROADLY TESTS FOR RNA VIRUSES AND GENETIC MATERIAL “Of course, the more people they test, then the more people are going to test positive because they’re just testing for RNA viruses and genetic material”, the narrator alleges (here). It is false that the COVID-19 test broadly detects all RNA viruses rather than SARS-CoV-2 specifically. An RNA virus is a virus that has RNA as its genetic material (here). Human diseases caused by RNA viruses include COVID-19 (here), SARS, influenza and Ebola disease (here). The Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) test used to detect SARS-CoV-2 works by detecting the presence of its RNA in the swab sample (here). Each virus has its own pattern of RNA material, and the test for coronavirus tests for the RNA material of SARS-CoV-2 specifically. CLAIM 3 - ALL DEATHS ARE BEING LABELLED AS COVID-19 “All deaths are basically being labelled as COVID deaths now whether they are or not. All you have to do is test positive for this genetic material in your body and it’ll say COVID-19” (here). In the UK, data on COVID-19 deaths published by the Office of National Statistics (ONS) includes deaths “involving COVID-19”. This includes deaths that have COVID-19 mentioned anywhere on the death certificate, whether it is an underlying cause or not (here). However, the ONS says that: “In the majority of cases (46,736 deaths, 92.8%) where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate, it was found to be the underlying cause of death”. It is wrong to say that all deaths are being recorded as COVID deaths. One indication of how many deaths have been caused by the pandemic is the number of ‘excess deaths’ recorded, or additional deaths compared to the number usually expected during a given time period. An ONS report shows that England and Wales saw spikes in the number of excess deaths that reflect the number of COVID-19 deaths that were reported at that time (see Figure 2) (here). In June, the ONS reported that there were around 64,500 excess deaths across the UK for the time of year using a five-year average, though the figure is now likely to be higher (here). VERDICT False. The coronavirus pandemic is not a hoax; it is a global outbreak caused by the virus SARS-CoV-2. Click here for source. “Duh” right back at you …

The hoax … COVID-19: 6 Things That Prove It’s Not a Hoax: False claim: Coronavirus is a hoax “I think I made a mistake. I thought this was a hoax, but it’s not.” Those were some of the last words uttered by a 30-year-old Texas man who attended a “coronavirus party” thinking COVID-19 was a hoax. Here’s what dozens of other people infected with coronavirus want you to know. The virus proved it was quite real in the worst way possible—he died after contracting it. The public learned about his tragic death when one of his doctors made a plea, begging people to take the virus seriously. Sadly, this is not the only example of someone dying from COVID-19 after being convinced it was a hoax. In early 2020, when the world learned about the effects of SARS-CoV-2 (severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2, or the virus that causes COVID-19) during the initial outbreak in China, people took to the Internet to search for information. By the time the pandemic was in full swing, the thirst for any kind of information had become a frenzy, turning into what the World Health Organization (WHO) calls an “infodemic.” “…[T]he technology we rely on to keep connected and informed is enabling and amplifying an infodemic that continues to undermine the global response and jeopardizes measures to control the pandemic,” says the WHO. How? By spreading misinformation and disinformation, either intentionally or through ignorance. “Misinformation about this costs lives,” says the WHO. “Without the appropriate trust and correct information […] the virus will continue to thrive.” The coronavirus hoax lies spread like wildfire Arguably, the most harmful source of misinformation right now is the recurring idea that COVID-19 is a hoax. There are countless coronavirus conspiracy theories out there that you absolutely shouldn’t believe. Perhaps you’ve heard some of the more popular COVID-19 hoaxes: “The virus is just a political tool and will magically disappear after the election.” “The virus is actually a bioweapon engineered by China to hurt America and there’s a hidden cure.” “Hospitals are getting paid to inflate the number of Covid-19 cases.” “The hoax is a ‘plandemic’ designed to make money for Big Pharma by forcing Americans to get a vaccine.” “COVID-19 deaths are faked. It’s no more dangerous than the flu.” There is no evidence to support hoax theories and plenty of evidence to refute them. And yet these claims continue to spread like wildfire, says Kathy Lancaster, PhD, an epidemiologist and public health expert at The Ohio State University College of Public Health. “The promotion of the growing anti-science movement is the most concerning issue in public health to me right now,” she says. “I worry this hurts the prevention and treatment of not just COVID-19, but potentially other health conditions as well.” To be crystal clear, she adds: “SARS-CoV-2 is a real virus that is highly contagious and can have serious effects on health, potentially leading to death,” she says. “It is not a hoax.” How coronavirus hoax lies get started It’s hard to pinpoint the genesis and spread of each bit of false information. But reports suggest they’re being amplified by online organized groups, like QAnon, which promote an array of conspiracy theories. (Facebook and other social media outlets are cracking down and deleting accounts linked to QAnon, an extremist group identified as a domestic terror threat by the FBI.) The fact that there are coronavirus mysteries that still can’t be explained doesn’t help either. In a joint memo in March, U.S. intelligence agencies said much of the disinformation is coming from other countries—mostly Russia—trying to interfere in the U.S. election. Variations on the hoax theme are all over social media and the Internet. They’re even parroted by President Donald Trump, who called the coronavirus “the Democrats’ next hoax.” This is a huge problem, says Rajeev Fernando, MD, an infectious disease physician, director of the division of infectious diseases at Stony Brook Southampton Hospital in New York, and the first U.S. doctor to investigate the virus in China. When even top leadership is calling it a hoax, it’s easy to see how citizens are getting confused, he says. Evidence that coronavirus is not a hoax There are several key pieces of evidence that disprove most coronavirus hoax lies. Here, our experts break it down. The first-hand experience of thousands of scientists and doctors “I’ve been wearing a mask since January 2020,” says Dr. Fernando. “Want to know why? Because I have seen this virus, personally, from the very beginning in China. I have never seen a disease like this before. I’ve watched young, healthy people die in front of me from this virus. “And I’ll keep saying that as many times as people need to hear it to understand that it’s not just me,” he adds. “Many doctors and scientists have seen the proof COVID-19 exists with our own eyes.” Here’s a first- hand account of what one respiratory therapist is seeing on the front lines. In fact, the Federation of American Scientists, a group that provides science-based solutions to protect against national and international security threats, started the Coronavirus Project for the purpose of debunking the many coronavirus myths. The group has published dozens of reports, tracking the trends, hot topics, and impact of science, medicine, and COVID-19 disinformation. The worldwide data If the virus were simply a hoax to mess with American politics then why are cases spreading all over the world, asks Carol Winner, a public health expert who has worked with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the National Institutes of Health for more than 30 years. “People are dying all over the world and making this about political motives makes no sense,” she says. The John Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center map is one of the most respected and accurate sources of COVID-19 data. Over one million people have died globally. In the United States, the number is well over 200,000, with some states hit much harder than others. Don’t trust John Hopkins? The WHO, the CDC, the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control, and the independently operated Worldometer are all reporting very similar numbers. The “excess deaths” statistics A popular hoax talking point is that deaths are being intentionally over-reported when those people really died from other causes or didn’t die at all. Nearly one-third of Americans say they don’t believe that the coronavirus death toll is as high as the official count, according to a July 2020 Axios-Ipsos Coronavirus Index survey. This survey was released the same day JAMA Internal Medicine reported that COVID-19 cases could be six to 24 times higher than what had been reported. Some states have been hit much harder than others by the coronavirus. When talking about how many deaths are really due to COVID-19, one number is particularly important: excess deaths or excess mortality, Lancaster says. Essentially, this is a number comparing how many more people died over the course of this year compared to how many died over the course of previous years. And the data are clear. Not only are the numbers not lying but there may be even more deaths than are being counted—the excess death count suggests there are about 30 percent more deaths that might be related to COVID-19 than have been officially reported. These can be attributed to the virus, either directly or indirectly, because the pandemic is the only major health- related difference in 2020 compared to previous years, says Lancaster. An analysis by the New York Times in August found that the death toll was higher than average from March to July—about 200,000 more deaths than expected—even though the official death toll due to COVID-19 was about 140,000 at that time. Based on CDC data, there have been about 279,700 more deaths than would normally be expected through October 3, 2020. Given that the official death toll for COVID-19 in that time period was 200,499, the pandemic could be causing even more deaths than are officially being reported. You can find country-by-country information about excess mortality at Our World in Data, a collaborative effort run by researchers at the University of Oxford and a non-profit organization called Global Change Data Lab. They note that there were 260,000 excess U.S. deaths from March 1 to August 16 compared to the average of the five previous years, although the official COVID-19 death toll was 169,000 in that time. “Already, our routine monitoring in the United States and globally is identifying overall increases in death compared to other years,” Lancaster says. “The process of capturing deaths is a complicated process, so what we are seeing may only be the tip of the iceberg. We will likely see deaths related to COVID-19, either directly or indirectly, continue to grow.” How the medical system works Many coronavirus hoax theories rely on “Big Pharma” as the bad actor. This theory holds that the virus was manufactured as a way to make money (like through vaccines or treatments) and that drug companies are paying hospitals to lie about COVID-19 deaths. “This isn’t how the medical system works in the United States,” says Winner. “Hospitals are paid by insurance companies for the treatment they provide, not per diagnosis made. While there may have been some unethical people in the news, overall hospitals and doctors have no financial incentive to do this.” In response to the vaccine theory, Dr. Fernando points out that many of the companies developing a COVID-19 vaccine have already pledged to release it for free or low-cost. There are more than a few fluctuating factors that’ll dictate when a safe vaccine will be available. The limits of current technology Microchips in vaccines? 5G towers spreading COVID-19? Changing a person’s DNA through a shot? These things simply aren’t possible with our current technology, Dr. Fernando says. If scientists could do these things they’d already be using this technology in other ways, adds Winner. Plus, people worried about a tracking device should be more concerned about all the real tracking done through cell phones, computers, and other personal tech, she says. It’s just one of the many ways coronavirus is different from all other epidemics through history. People who’ve had COVID-19 By this point, nearly everyone knows someone (or knows someone who knows someone) who has had the disease. Find a person you trust and talk to them, personally, about their experience. Many will report mild to moderate symptoms. This man contracted coronavirus and knew exactly who gave it to him. But about 15 percent of COVID-19 cases are severe enough to be hospitalized and an additional 5 percent need intensive care treatment, Dr. Fernando says. Even people with less severe cases can experience long-lasting COVID-19 symptoms. All of those people should be able to tell you that it’s a real thing. For a more sobering reality check, talk to someone who’s lost a loved one to COVID-19. Don’t take our word for it—do your own research Just be sure to check where you are getting your information. Not all news sources are created equal. And while it’s tempting to get the breaking news from Twitter or Facebook, social media is among the least accurate news sources. There are so many coronavirus myths out there you need to stop believing. For example, nearly two-thirds of Americans reported seeing news and online information about coronavirus seemed completely made up, according to an April 2020 Pew Research Center survey. Get your information from places backed by scientific or medical institutions, with a good reputation, and take the time to fact check anything that seems off, Dr. Fernando says. “Often, just a little bit of checking is enough to unravel these hoaxes.” The people making these claims will often tell you to trust them and no one else in an effort to keep you from doing your own research, he adds. Politicians are also not a good source of accurate information as they have an agenda to promote, Dr. Fernando says. “Listen to the experts, we’ve spent our whole careers learning about these things,” he says. Concerned about getting politically biased information? Use AllSides’ Media Bias chart to find trusted sources. Click here for source.

to control the general public

Are you prepared to face the consequences of the world you are helping to create?

Lucifer, whom you unwittingly serve, is not here to "control the general public". He's here to destroy it.

The Covid masks are being worn world wide. Thus, they indicate that the world is UNIFYIED, even if it's through nothing more than a piece of fabric worn on the face. Everybody is wearing a mask, virtually the entire population of the Earth. Amazing isn't it?

Now God went to great lengths to separate the peoples of the world, especially through language. Why, Gatlin, did He do this? Well, the answer is to prevent the world from unifying AGAINST Him. To stop a world wide rebellion, which would put an end to God's plans for mankind.

And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.

What the people "imagine to do" is to live independently from God. They even want to be as God...reaching into heaven itself. They imagine an existence apart from God and without God.

John Lennon: Imagine there's no heaven...It's easy if you try...No hell below us...Above us only sky...Imagine all the people living for today...I hope some day you'll join us...And the world will be as one

Lucifer knows if the world fully unites as one...God will destroy the whole thing. The world wide mask wearing is the first step toward world unity.

You're playing right into Lucifer's hands...to be eternally destroyed. You ready for that?

And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon (Destroyer).

Are you prepared to face the consequences of the world you are helping to create? In this world, we constantly face numerous daily challenges that will always test our emotional mettle. Sometime it takes the form of injury, illness, unemployment, grief, divorce, death, or even a new undertaking with a yet unknown future. Yes, I am fully prepared to face any and all challenges in an unknown future and develop strategies to carry me through. I am not one to turn away from life – I will always turn towards life. I have no use for avoidance. I will diligently present myself to enjoy life, to be most effective in it – and I do this by orienting myself towards facing reality. Lucifer … There you go again – Letting your satanophobia take complete control of your life. Satanophobia is the fear of satan. This fear is associated with demonophobia (fear of demons) and stygiophobia (fear of hell). These people are scared of burning in hell forever and being tortured by the demons and being anguished forever in hell and being tormented by Satan. The fear and threat of Lucifer is always what you fall back on with you lose in discussions and cannot support your claims or causes. The Covid masks are being worn world wide. Thus, they indicate that the world is UNIFYIED, even if it's through nothing more than a piece of fabric worn on the face. Everybody is wearing a mask, virtually the entire population of the Earth. Amazing isn't it? No – There is nothing amazing about that. … [God] to prevent the world from unifying AGAINST Him. To stop a world wide rebellion, which would put an end to God's plans for mankind. The Great Reellion Aganst God: Bible prophecy lists numerous signs that will precede Jesus Christ’s second coming, but the Apostle Paul specifically notes two major events that will occur just before Christ returns. He writes, “that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition” (2 Thessalonians 2:3). Paul tells us that the appearance of this “man of sin” on the world stage will be accompanied by “signs, and lying wonders” performed by a false religious leader using Satan’s power (2 Thessalonians 2:9). This display of supernatural demonic power will deceive millions into following this Satan-inspired individual and the system he is promoting. Meanwhile, the Western nations are rapidly abandoning any former pretense of nominal Christianity. “Mainline” churches that for centuries upheld “traditional biblical values” now champion same-sex marriage, practicing homosexual clergymen (and clergywomen), and open denial of the inspiration of Scripture. Backlash against these trends is driving some Episcopalians and Anglicans into the Roman Catholic Church, even while many Roman Catholics are leaving their church, citing dismay and disillusionment at the way the “pedophile priest scandal” has been handled. In many Western nations, Islam is now the fastest-growing religion. What has happened to the long-held assumption that Jesus Christ would return to establish His Kingdom? Despite liberal trends and false teachings, the fact remains that Jesus will “come again” (John 14:1–3), that His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives by Jerusalem and He will reign over all the earth (Zechariah 14:1–9). The Bible also records that specific “signs” will precede Jesus’ return: increasing violence and wars, frequent floods, droughts and famines, disease epidemics, earthquakes and other natural disasters (see Matthew 24; Mark 13; Luke 21). However, a major sign will be widespread religious deception promoted by false religious leaders who perform “great signs and wonders” (Matthew 24:3–5, 11, 24). The Scriptures state that the return of Jesus Christ will surprise the world because people will not be watching for the warning signs that will indicate that His return is near (Matthew 24:36–41; 25:1–13; 1 Thessalonians 5:1–6). In the book of Revelation, the Apostle John describes a beast, coming up out of the sea, that is influenced and given power by Satan (the dragon— Revelation 13:1–5). This beast will be a political leader who will gain power in Europe over a final revival of a political system that has links to the ancient Roman Empire (see Daniel 2; 7). John then foretells the appearance of another beast who “performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven… and he deceives those who dwell on earth by those signs” (Revelation 13:11–18). This miracle-working false prophet will be in league with the first beast and bring pressure on the peoples of the world to become part of this revived Roman system. Together, the political leader and the miracle-working false prophet will lead the world into a Satan-inspired system that will be totally contrary to the laws of God. This will be the ultimate fulfillment of the “falling away” or “great apostasy” against God that the Apostle Paul described in 2 Thessalonians 2:3. Bible prophecies reveal this is coming in the years just ahead! MISTAKEN ASSUMPTIONS As many readers of this magazine know, the organization led by Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong for more than 50 years underwent a terrible crisis in the early 1990s, as his successors abandoned long-held doctrines of God’s Church and tried to bring the organization into “mainstream Christianity.” Scores of thousands left the Worldwide Church of God as its doctrines were changed. That organization even changed its name, acknowledging openly that it no longer considers itself a “Church of God.” So, could that have been the “falling away” prophesied by Scripture? No less an authority than Mr. Armstrong himself would disagree with that assertion. On many occasions, Mr. Armstrong plainly taught that the “falling away” mentioned in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 would be an event affecting the vast mass of human beings around the world. He wrote in a co-worker letter, “Christ foretold a turning away from His message… [Paul] prophesied there would be a Great Falling Away from Christ’s true message…the popular churches would turn away from the Truth and believe fables” (November 11, 1949). Later, in a 1982 radio broadcast, he asked, “Has that falling away happened? That doesn’t mean a few people, it doesn’t mean a few radicals or fanatics. The whole world was to be deceived!” Was the “whole world” deceived when Mr. Armstrong’s successors split their church? Though this was a traumatic event, it affected only a relatively small number of people, and the church’s leaders displayed no powerful miracles to gain the loyalty of followers. There is no scriptural way to identify the prophesied “man of sin” with either of the men who succeeded Mr. Armstrong as the head of that organization. Notice that the phrase translated as “falling away” in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 in the NKJV comes from the Greek word apostasia. Although English- speakers may be inclined to translate this word as “apostasy,” and “falling away” has become a commonly accepted phrasing, these are actually not the best translations. Consider how several other translations render this word: “the great revolt” (Williams), “the rebellion” (Moffatt), or “the final rebellion against God” (NEB). No credible translation gives any indication that this massive global event could in fact involve just a few thousand members of one organization. Rather, it involves an outright worldwide rebellion, of unprecedented proportion, against any semblance of belief in the God of the Bible. Here is how the Expositor’s Bible Commentary describes this momentous event: “Conditions will be ripe for people, especially those who call themselves Christian… to turn their backs on God… This worldwide anti- God movement will be so universal as to earn for itself a special designation: ‘the apostasy’… the presence of such an apostasy and counterfeit god will not escape international observation” (volume 11, pp. 320–323). We are living in an age in which the so-called “Christian” world is drifting further and further away from God and the moral principles found in the Bible. Nations that once claimed to be Christian are now promoting homosexuality and same-sex marriage—and even persecuting those who quote the Bible! What about the United States? President Barack Obama, while running for office, famously observed, “Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation—at least, not just. We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, and a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.” Some nominal believers were offended, even outraged, by his words, but he was correct—the U.S. no longer looks to biblical principles as its anchor. This trend will continue. Within the lifetimes of most of you reading this article, two Satan-inspired individuals—a miracle-working religious figure and a charismatic European political leader—will appear on the world stage and lead the masses of humanity in rebellion against the true God. Finally, near the very end of this age, this blasphemous religious figure will declare himself to be God, commanding the allegiance of billions who will join him in a final rebellion against the returning Jesus Christ (2 Thessalonians 2:4). You need to be alert and watch for these significant end-time events so you can avoid being deceived when the prophecies come alive! Click here for source. You trying to tie “MASKS” into this is a “MISTAKEN ASSUMPTION.” What the people "imagine to do" is to live independently from God. They even want to be as God...reaching into heaven itself. They imagine an existence apart from God and without God. There is nothing wrong with that. Lucifer knows if the world fully unites as one...God will destroy the whole thing. The world wide mask wearing is the first step toward world unity. BULSHIT – BULLSHIT – BULLSHIT … You don’t KNOW this. You're playing right into Lucifer's hands... And here you go again – Letting your satanophobia take complete control of your life. Disgusting …

Gatlin I've heard that they haven't even isolated the virus. Is that true? Stone, I ran across this and learned that – The Covid-19 virus has been isolated many times: We’ve been asked to look into claims that the Covid-19 virus hasn’t been isolated, doesn’t fulfil “Koch’s postulates”, and that this means PCR diagnosis tests aren’t working. Isolating a virus Firstly it is incorrect to say that the virus that causes Covid-19 has not been isolated. Isolating a virus means taking a pure sample of a virus from an infected being so it can be studied. There are numerous reports of the virus being isolated by teams around the world. “SARS-CoV2 has been sampled millions of times over from infected people, including those originally found to be infected in China,” Dr Stephen Griffin, a virologist and Associate Professor at Leeds Institute of Medical Research, told Full Fact. Koch’s postulates It’s also incorrect to say that the virus that causes Covid-19 would need to meet Koch’s postulates, primarily because Koch’s postulates weren’t written for viruses. Koch’s postulates were a set of rules outlined by scientist Robert Koch in 1890 to decide whether a bacteria causes a disease. The original four criteria are: “1. The microorganism must be found in the diseased animal, and not found in healthy animals. “2. The microorganism must be extracted and isolated from the diseased animal and subsequently grown in culture. “3. The microorganism must cause disease when introduced to a healthy experimental animal. “4. The microorganism must be extracted from the diseased experimental animal and demonstrated to be the same microorganism that was originally isolated from the first diseased animal.” As noted by many, these criteria were written before the discovery of viruses, so fail to include them in their consideration of what a disease is. Dr Griffin outlined other shortcomings in Koch’s rules. “The first postulate in particular is void as even at Koch’s time (which he later admitted)” he told us. “Folks knew that you could catch e.g. Cholera without necessarily becoming unwell - asymptomatic infection is a massive issue for these ideas (first and third postulates), as is the arrival of molecular biology!” Another of Koch’s postulates was that bacteria must be able to be isolated from the host. Viruses, unlike bacteria, require host cells in which to replicate, so also cannot be isolated in the same way Koch defined with bacteria, which according to Dr Griffin, required “culture as in a flask of media, so viruses don’t fit this idea.” So simply put, Koch’s postulates are not a good measure of what causes disease in 2020. PCR tests We also know that PCR tests are identifying the virus that causes Covid- 19 and working well. As we have written before, PCR tests used in Covid-19 testing are extremely sensitive and specific at detecting Covid-19 and do not confuse other coronaviruses, such as ones that cause the common cold, for Covid-19. “The PCR test is incredibly stringent and specific, requires two separate reactions to be positive ... and EVERY test is also sequenced, so we know it is SARS-CoV2 and not another virus,” said Dr Griffin. So in summary, Covid-19 has been isolated, Koch’s postulates don’t have to universally apply for something to cause disease, and tests to identify the Covid-19 virus do work. Click here for the source.

I will diligently present myself to enjoy life

There will be no joy. The masktard world you promote has already killed off all beauty, art, and culture. The Covid hoax has weakened the nation's resolve and unity. The will of the people has been overthrown in the election. Now our borders are open to every dreg of the third world. Our children have had their childhoods stolen through masking and lockdown. And you have had championed this from the very beginning. Where will you find any joy ever again?

threat of Lucifer

Lucifer has taken advantage of you due to your ignorance of his devices.

There is nothing wrong with that.

Nothing wrong with living without God? Nothing wrong trying to take the place of God? Are you sure about that?

You don’t KNOW this.

The only reason Lucifer is uniting the world is to fight God. That is the whole teaching of Armegeddon.

And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

21 And the remnant (of humans) were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

These are the consequences of the world you are helping to create.

Repeating: Political, economic, moral, legal, and scientific issues must be fairly depicted and intelligently and thoughtfully pondered.

The increasing frequency of Christian forms of fanaticism such as yours is alarming. For although we live in a technologically and scientifically advanced age, we also live in an age of widespread ignorance. But whatever the cultural norms, youe fanaticism about Christianity is unbiblical, unwarranted, and has no place in our lives.

The coordinated disinformation campaign of ... the Democrat/technocrat/globalist narrative --- is an orchestrated effort to make Americans believe the unbelievable, and accept the unacceptable.

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While many Christian Americans are thoughtful and productive people simply going about their daily lives like the rest of us, there exists within our country a fanatical segment of Christian followers whose ideology is tarnishing our country and obstructing our progression. Here are 10 common ways Christian fanaticism is obstructing American progress: 1.) Deeper Division of the classes. Although the Christian Bible quite plainly repeatedly encourages followers to help the needy and poor, many fanatical Christians seemed to have overlooked their book’s message on this subject and have instead chosen to label those who are struggling as “lazy” and undeserving of any kind of relief. This is a problematic disruption for America because instead of supporting our own improvement by helping others escape poverty, many Christians are doing the exact opposite by treating those who need our help the most with disgust and indignation. This mentality only serves to create a deeper divide between the classes of our country. “If among you, one of your brothers should become poor, in any of your towns within your land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart or shut your hand against your poor brother, but you shall open your hand to him and lend him sufficient for his need, whatever it may be. Take care lest there be an unworthy thought in your heart and you say, ‘The seventh year, the year of release is near,’ and your eye look grudgingly on your poor brother, and you give him nothing, and he cry to the Lord against you, and you be guilty of sin. You shall give to him freely, and your heart shall not be grudging when you give to him, because for this the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in all that you undertake. For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I command you, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.” ~Deuteronomy 15:7-11 ESV It is not only ethical for us to treat our fellow citizens with dignity (regardless of their current circumstances), but it benefits us all when we work to find ways to help those who are struggling improve their livelihood, rather than shaming them and banishing them to a life of scarcity. When we help one another, we improve the overall experience of our society, because we create productive citizens who are capable of attaining their own abundance. When we shut them out and cast them aside, we eventually create desperate people who sometimes do desperate things. What we should be doing, whether we are believers or non- believers, is collectively seeking ways to support others in empowering themselves to reach higher standards; not besmirching their existence as our fanatical Christian political propaganda would have us do. 2.) Education – Historical and Scientific inaccuracies. Many fanatical Christians are unable to accept historical events as they occurred and insist on altering history in order to fit their religious version of events. This mental intrusion can be seen in many spectrums of our educational system; including an array of scientific and other academic disciplines. Additionally, fanatical Christians persist in asserting that past genocides and other atrocious acts (such as Hitler’s extermination of the Jews) was not a Christian-instigated endeavor; when in fact, the comments, publications of the time, photos and speeches used in those campaigns suggest otherwise. Even more disturbing is the fanatical Christian (specifically Christian Revisionist) effort to alter public educational instruction so that America’s youth are taught that our nation was founded on Christian principles, rather than the secular values of our founding fathers. This is a problem because many American Christians are not even cognizant of the fact that our original money and pledge never mentions God, nor are they aware that, although many of our founding fathers were men who believed in a god, they were not Christians at all and found the Christian Bible and religion completely oppressive and abhorrent. “Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by a difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought to be deprecated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society.” ~Founding Father George Washington, letter to Edward Newenham, October 20, 1792 Our founding fathers were free-thinkers of the enlightenment and in fact, a primary reason in them establishing this country was to flee the oppression of their theocratic Christian homeland. In reality America has always been a secular nation from its inception – a fact fanatical Christians want Americans to forget by amending history to fit their agenda. 3.) Climate change denial. Many fanatical Christians are living in denial of the obvious changes happening in our natural environment. This is a dilemma that affects everyone on this planet and must be addressed expediently; or we will all suffer by our own inaction. Rather than working together to improve the health of our planet, many fanatical Christians have chosen to delay the process of expunging our world of harmful toxins and human practices in favor of debating whether climate change actually exists. This ridiculously profound waste-of-time and tax-payer funds is an impediment to Americans using our time wisely to improve our habitat – and thus our own health and human experience. Truthfully, whether climate change exists or not is irrelevant to whether we should be working to improve our natural environment. Is it really necessary that we confirm that our world is suffering in order to comprehend that treating our planet with respect is always the right course of action, regardless of whether the climate is actually changing? Shouldn’t we be consistently working to improve the health of our world and using clean and efficient resources to power our planet? Why must we debate common sense? 4.) Religious voting. Those we elect as the leaders of our nation – who create the laws we all must abide by – is a serious matter. However, many fanatical Christians are not as concerned with a candidate’s ability to effectively perform the duties of their office in a way that serves the people’s interests as they are with the religious belief structure that the candidate chooses to follow. This is an extremely concerning trend that enables leaders to hold positions in this country that empower them to oppress citizens with regulations that benefit their specific religion, irrespective of how those citizens who do not agree with Christian principles will be affected. In fact, that is the intention of fanatical Christian politicians and their electorate – to turn this country into a Christian state where we are all obliged to follow Christian principles of morality and “freedom”. “We should begin by setting conscience free. When all men of all religions shall enjoy equal liberty, property, and an equal chance for honors and power we may expect that improvements will be made in the human character and the state of society.” ~Founding Father John Adams, letter to Dr. Price, April 8, 1785 This is a grim conundrum for countless Americans, because for those of us who follow other religions, or no religion, the threat of Christian theocratic rule is real. It is disturbing when we comprehend what will happen to our freedoms if religious voters and the politicians who lead them are successful in turning our country into an oppressive, religious, legal nightmare. 5.) Ineffective Sexual Education. For decades, fanatical Christians have denied the reality of sex in the human experience by restricting access to comprehensive sexual education for our young citizens. They have done this by implementing (and even using tax dollars to fund) abstinence only programs that simply don’t work. In fact, they can have a detrimental consequence because when we deny our youth of necessary sexual education, many of those youths enter into adulthood ill-prepared for the accountabilities of sexual activity; while also leaving them uninformed of safe sexual conduct. Abstinence only programs are completely ineffective and generally only serve to delay sexual activity by several months, rather than its intended result of preserving virginity until a marital relationship is established. Furthermore, young people who are deprived of comprehensive sexual education in favor of abstinence only teachings (and follow those instructions) often marry earlier than their educated peers as they are convinced that sexual activity is only suitable within the confines of a marital relationship. This can lead to the young person to marry from a place of biological sexual frustration rather than a genuine mental decision – certainly a situation that is not beneficial to any party involved. Additionally, it only stands to reason that if Christians oppose abortion, they must be willing to support the alternative – contraception methods – something taught in comprehensive sexual education. It is unrealistic to expect that a human youth will, in fact, wait until a marital relationship is established to engage in sexual activity – because most don’t, regardless of their original lessons about sex. Sexual education is not only beneficial to overall health of all involved by making people more informed about safe sexual practices, but it is essential for those who oppose abortion to support a resource that actually helps prevent any abortion from ever becoming necessary – but, this is not what happens, because many fanatical Christians are still convinced that restricting sexual activity is effective – when in fact, it’s not; nor will it ever be as it’s in direct opposition to natural human tendencies. 6.) Televangelist con artist and the fear machine. Turn on your television and you can easily find Christian channels full of televangelists making outrageous statements about how god is punishing our country, derogatory declarations about the LGBT community, how atheist should be shipped off somewhere else, and how the end times are upon us. Interestingly, after filling the viewers mind with fear and hatred towards their fellow citizens, they proceed by insisting on a financial offering, which many followers freely provide. Meanwhile, these same televangelist live in multi-million dollar homes, build extravagant churches and do very little to actually help those who are truly in need, all while paying no taxes to spread their propaganda and exerting huge influence over millions of American voters. This is disconcerting as it vastly contributes to perpetuating a religious cultural fear and discrimination in our society while swindling the believer out of their hard-earned resources. At the same time, followers of these con artists are mentally persuaded that their hatred and bigotry towards their peers is justified as good moral conduct and that their ideas place them in a mental position of superiority based solely on religious contentions. This is a problem because millions of Americans rely on these religious tricksters for their religious instruction, and those teachings translate into votes for politicians whose policies affect everyone in this country. 7.) The continuation of the war on drugs. There is an enormous problem within our prison system that has been largely understated for many decades. Our “war on drugs” is a monumental failure that has done nothing more than incarcerate addicts and perpetuate a cycle of crime; often leaving those same individuals unable to become productive members of society after they are left with a record that hinders their ability to find gainful employment. All this, while private prisons make record profits off of imprisoning non-violent drug-users, instead of helping them recover from addictions. Many fanatical Christians (especially those Christian politicians who are in a position to influence federal and state laws) are perpetuating this problem by insisting that our failed war on drugs must remain the standard for our treatment of drug users. This is absurd because it is obvious that our current method of imprisoning drug users and addicts is highly ineffective and wildly expensive for non-profit prisons supported by tax payer funds. Yet, many fanatical Christians are against drug law reform and insist on preserving a system that criminalizes drug users rather than helping them recover from addictions and become more productive members of our society. While many of our more free-thinking politicians and citizens’ support reforming our current stance on drugs in America to a more humane and helpful program, fanatical Christians continue to obstruct progress in this area by refusing to acknowledge – and work to change – the problem. 8.) Representation without taxation. Most religious institutions in America are exempt from paying taxes, yet Christian fanatics and politicians insist on forcing a religious Christian agenda onto the American public – all while paying no taxes to support the various financial necessities of our country. There is a reason religious institutions don’t pay taxes – because they are not supposed to be represented by our government. “The civil government functions with complete success by the total separation of the Church from the State.” ~Founding Father James Madison, 1819, Writings, 8:432, quoted from Gene Garman, “Essays In Addition to America’s Real Religion” Our government is explicitly discouraged from supporting one specific religion as a federal endorsement of religious concepts. Our founding fathers understood this necessity to separate religion from governmental functions in order that all may remain free to worship (or not) according to their own conscience. However, some Christian fanatics have attempted to redefine the meaning of “religious freedom” by demanding their religion be given special representation by our government, above all other religious organizations and creeds. They do this by insisting that our country was founded on Christian principles and relentless attempts to force federal laws to submit to Christian concepts. 9.) Forced Division. If there were no push to turn this country into a Christian theocracy, to eliminate and restrict the rights of women, LGBT and other minority groups. If there were no voter fraud meant to keep progressive ideas from advancing the minds and experiences of our country’s people. If there were no Christian fight for the right to publicly discriminate against the LGBT community. If there were no obstruction of science, technology, history and sexual education, among many other issues – there would be no necessity to counter it, and therefore, less division of our population over ideas that affect us all. Christian fanatics force this country to divide amongst itself because those who are unwilling to have their lives and thoughts religiously dictated to them through legal processes must react. It is essential that they react – because if they don’t, they will soon find themselves in a precarious situation, where the life and freedom they once knew is taken from them by a group of people whose values do not reflect their own. For this reason, our courts often uphold rulings that keep religion (all religion) out of the public square; and even then, Christian fanatics cry foul when they are unable to use their religion to dominate an entire nation and its people. “Knowledge and liberty are so prevalent in this country, that I do not believe that the United States would ever be disposed to establish one religious sect, and lay all others under legal disabilities. But as we know not what may take place hereafter, and any such test would be exceedingly injurious to the rights of free citizens, I cannot think it altogether superfluous to have added a clause, which secures us from the possibility of such oppression.” ~Founding Father Oliver Wolcott, Connecticut Ratifying Convention, 9 January 1788 It is unfortunate that we are unable to agree on the most basic principles of many aspects of American life and freedom, but if those who don’t agree with Christian fanatics don’t speak up – who chooses? What principles reign over our country? And who then will speak for those who don’t identify with those ideas? What becomes of their rights? Their justice in courts? Their freedoms? There must be a retort in order to prevent our country from losing the freedom and unity that we as a people are fully capable of enjoying, so long as the proclamations of our founding documents are upheld. 10.) Global credibility. Much of the developed world has already reached a perceptive and educated understanding that our religions are merely our current myths, just as our past religions were the ideas we understand as fables today. However, American Christian fanatics refuse to concede what is already palpable to much of the developed global community. Our reluctance to surrender our archaic ideas and embrace reality has left a stain on our credibility, because more informed citizens of other developed countries perceive our citizens as gullible and undereducated. Furthermore, when our Christian leaders use their power to alter history and our educational system to fit into their religious concepts (rather than thoroughly researched and proven facts) our citizens become less equipped to compete in a world where facts, evidence and knowledge are increasingly important and necessary for global opportunity and expansion. Christian fanatics love to live in a country where we are all free to practice our religion as we please. However, their view of “religious freedom”, truly only applies to one specific belief – their own. What their words and actions honestly exhibit, is that: we are free to worship as we choose (or not), just so long as we agree that Jesus is god, that our nation is a Christian nation and that all citizens should accept and acknowledge the Christian political, social and moral agenda. In reality, the Christian fanatic is not concerned with religious freedom at all – they are concerned only with religious supremacy and using their religion to coerce our nation into abandoning its secular, enlightenment and free-thinking roots. Religious liberty is not achieved by enabling one religion to attain political and legal dominance over a nation; it is achieved by comprehending that one religious group must never achieve that authority. Click here for the source.

I am witnessing the greatest, freest republic on earth being transformed into a technocracy that resembles communist China, the most oppressive regime on earth. Yes, you are. The coordinated disinformation campaign of ... the Democrat/technocrat/globalist narrative --- is an orchestrated effort to make Americans believe the unbelievable, and accept the unacceptable. Yes, it is.

A Christian is called to love God with all of his or her mind. Thus, political, economic, moral, legal, and scientific issues must be fairly depicted and intelligently and thoughtfully pondered. Unfairly depicting opponents and their arguments is prohibited, as is neglecting to do the hard intellectual work of deep study and arrogantly refusing the insights of trained, knowledgeable experts in various fields. Christians are sometimes guilty of this kind of indiscretion. And even worse, they can be proud of their anti- intellectualism when they ought to be ashamed. It truly is wicked, since it involves intentional rejection of one third of the greatest commandment.

That is a reasonable statement.

Can you give us some examples of when you think Christians behave as you have described above.

Because some people would attribute those characteristics falsely and are in error.

A Christian is called to love God with all of his or her mind. Thus, political, economic, moral, legal, and scientific issues must be fairly depicted and intelligently and thoughtfully pondered. Unfairly depicting opponents and their arguments is prohibited, as is neglecting to do the hard intellectual work of deep study and arrogantly refusing the insights of trained, knowledgeable experts in various fields. Christians are sometimes guilty of this kind of indiscretion. And even worse, they can be proud of their anti-intellectualism when they ought to be ashamed. It truly is wicked, since it involves intentional rejection of one third of the greatest commandment. That is a reasonable statement. As my statements always are. Can you give us some examples of when you think Christians behave as you have described above. Yes. A Christian is called to love God with all of his or her mind. Billy Graham. Thus, political, economic, moral, legal, and scientific issues must be fairly depicted and intelligently and thoughtfully pondered. Walter Cronkite. Unfairly depicting opponents and their arguments is prohibited, as is neglecting to do the hard intellectual work of deep study and arrogantly refusing the insights of trained, knowledgeable experts in various fields. Christians are sometimes guilty of this kind of indiscretion. And even worse, they can be proud of their anti-intellectualism when they ought to be ashamed. It truly is wicked, since it involves intentional rejection of one third of the greatest commandment. A K A Stone and Watchman. Because some people would attribute those characteristics falsely and are in error. Not this time …

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Yes this time. You didn't give any examples and you slandered two people.

Gatlin just because you say something doesn't make it true.

Also your statements are not always true. That is a fact.

So you can't give any examples. Ok. Zero. I did – See my Post #54.

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Not this time … Yes this time. You didn't give any examples and you slandered two people. I gave examples of people who fit the description. People can serve as excellent examples. There was no slander – You just didn’t like the truth. Gatlin just because you say something doesn't make it true. Point out to me when you “think” it isn’t. Also your statements are not always true. Point out to me when you “think” they are not. Also your statements are not always true. No – That’s your OPINION …

you worry … Nah …

I gave examples of people who fit the description.

People can serve as excellent examples.

You gave no examples of what brought you to your false conclusion.

Because you are incapable of providing examples of anything I ever said.

Or any other examples in the mainstream culture of your claims.

Because you can't. Because the examples you would provide would be shredded. And you would look stupid again.

… threat of Lucifer … NIO Shareholders Are 'Dealing With The Devil' I am looking at emerging markets to find fairly priced value investments as average valuations are lower there than in the US or other developed markets. NIO (NYSE:NIO) is the 8th largest holding on the emerging market ETF and I took a look. Unfortunately, I haven't found anything that would even give a glimpse of value or justify the current market capitalization and I'll shortly share the key risks I individuated when analyzing NIO. For the full analysis including the bull and bear thesis, a bit of George Carlin style sarcasm, you can enjoy my NIO stock video at the bottom of this article. RISK 1 - Analysts are bullish On average, analysts are bullish on new Chinese EV players and consequently also bullish about NIO. On Seeking Alpha, investment bank analysts are even more bullish than independent analysts. I found it very surprising that investment bank analysts are bullish on a company that was bailed out by the Chinese government not even a year ago (more about that in RISK 2), that sold just 43,728 vehicles in 2020, burned $7.5 billion since inception, will keep burning much more cash over the coming years, is operating in a highly cyclical, cut throat margin industry heavily depending on fast changing customer preferences and on top of it all has a market capitalization of $90 billion. That is $2,058,177 per car sold in 2020. Well, I quickly found the reason for Wall Street's bullishness. In a recent interview, Jeremy Grantham said how Wall Street has absolutely no incentive to stop bubbles because: "you make money by keeping the bubble going". A look at the figure below will tell you why Wall Street analysts will likely keep pumping NIO stock. This tells me that analysts don't look at fundamentals as their incentive lies elsewhere. As Charlie Munger says in his Almanack; to know with whom you are dealing with, always reverse engineer his incentives first. For me, the clear incentive analysts have to be bullish, creates a long- term risk as few are focused on the fundamentals the therefore the market's perception gets distorted. RISK 2 - Dealing with the devil Apart from analyst having their own incentives, I think NIO's key shareholders might have a different interest to what you might have as a shareholder owning NIO stock traded on the NYSE. I should correct myself, the key shareholders of NIO China, are likely to have different interests. As NIO was in a bad situation at the beginning of 2020, the company was bailed out by the Chinese government. Now, all would be fine if the Chinese government, in this case the province of Hefei, would have bailed out NIO from an equal position as you bought your shares. The thing is that all the assets of NIO in China were transferred to a new company called NIO China. Of which NIO, the thing you own, got 75.88% while the other strategic investors 24.115%. Since then, NIO has invested further into NIO China and the distribution of ownership is now 86.5% for NIO while other investors still have time to decide whether to increase their share of ownership. Now, as NIO China, that holds all the key assets, is likely going to continue to burn cash for the next 5 to 10 years as it grows, I wonder whether the other investors, i.e. the government of China, will fund NIO China at their own terms or they will respect NIO's valuation on the US stock market? As this is a long term RMB financing agreement NIO made with the government, I would say NIO sold its soul to the devil and there is a big risk that US traded NIO shareholders might be regarded as secondary and get the short end of the deal. This is a big risk, especially given the valuation of $90 billion for what actually is 86% of the real NIO China or probably even 76% if the government decides to add more money and increase its stake. Thus, NIO's full valuation should be around $104 billion based on the 86% stake in NIO China or $118 billion based on the 76% stake. RISK 3 - Chinese owned businesses traded in US markets I've been analyzing Chinese businesses for a while now, did really good with some, got burnt on others. But my general feeling regarding Chinese stocks now is that there where is smoke, there is also usually a fire. Perhaps it is just a small fire now, but given the current valuation and the initial stages of NIO's business development, the risks are simply too big to justify the valuation. Talking about NIO's founder, in 2015 I have analyzed his former company Bitauto and figured how despite the stock price decline of 70%, it is still overpriced. What is often the case with Chinese companies going public in the US is that those enjoy a period of exuberance when family members and friends sell their stakes, and then the market forgets about the stock and goes private again as investors start to focus on the real fundamentals while the promises are often broken. Bitauto did exactly that, it had been a public company for more than 10 years, only to go private at a similar price that it went public. Further, during the first Bitcoin craze in 2017, in 90% of the conference calls I listened from Chinese companies traded in the US, blockchain was mentioned as a great way to improve business. Fast forward 3 years, few mention blockchain, but most now mention EV related adventures. Is it because it is such a profitable industry or you can easily smooch a few billions from naïve US investors hoping to be exposed to the booming EV market in China? NIO stock investing conclusion Given the NIO and the complexity created by the NIO China issue, the fact that the company will not be profitable soon and that NIO China will need significant capital injections in the future, I feel that the market might get quickly bored with NIO, especially if there are more ownership shenanigans with different rights for different shareholders (given the partner it is very likely there will be more) and we could see the stock sharply decline over time and then go private again at much lower valuations that the current one. In the meantime, NIO gets billions out of US markets through capital rising rounds that all fits well the Chinese agreement - Chinese NIO shareholders get rich by selling shares, US dollars fund the building of factories, production, technology development and jobs in China, all leading to the increasing of the wellbeing and power of the People's Republic of China at the cost of US shareholders. There are plenty more risks regarding NIO, from the fact that it is an automotive company operating in a very cyclical industry, that the competition is extremely fierce and everybody wants to make EVs these days to the fact that the company spends $100,000 to make a car and sells it for $50,000. So, anyways, I will stay away from NIO. A click here leads to source. I am selling my shares in NIO at the opening tomorrow. And since you seem pretty close with Lucifer’s actions – You can tell old Lucifer that he lost this one. IALAU …

I am selling my shares in NIO at the opening tomorrow.

#1. Why did you buy NIO shares in the first place?

#2. How much are you going to lose tomorrow?

#3. I probably get a better return from my cows.

#4. While we're on the subject of your money, do you think you could mention me in your will?

The hoax is spreading. The devil’s use of half truths. The Gospel for this Sunday presents us with a flurry of activity, set at the beginning of Christ’s public life. In the space of a few lines, the Lord Jesus has healed Simon’s mother-in-law, healed the diseases of the crowd, cast out many demons, gone to spend the night in prayer, been pursued by the whole town and gone on to preach elsewhere. We see here the dynamism and urgency of the love he bears toward the people of Galilee and, through them, toward us as well. Yet there are strange things tucked away in this continuous stream of ministry, and we would do well not to miss them. Strangest among these is perhaps the fact that when the demons whom Jesus casts out say they know who he is, he silences them. In fact, the Gospel tells us that Christ does not permit the demons to speak precisely because they know him. Why would this be a good reason for silencing the demons? He does this, at least in part, because the demons lie even when they tell the truth. It is a common tactic of our Enemy and his servants to use the truth, or at least parts of it, in order to confuse and tell lies. Evil is parasitic on good; it cannot exist on its own but must survive by twisting things that are good in themselves. Even the devil himself is not purely evil but a corruption of an angel, glorious among God’s creations, through pride and envy. So also with the work that the Enemy does. He could never convince us of anything if he tempted us with pure evil, entirely opposed to good, completely irrational and repulsive. He is able to do far more if he tells us the truth in the wrong way, at the wrong time or in the wrong context. How might this look in our lives? Perhaps we are struggling with sorrow in our spiritual lives, having difficulty seeing that we are loved by God as his beloved children in baptism. Into that moment, the devil might whisper the truth that we are sinners who do not deserve to receive anything from God. While this is true, it is only part of the truth, and it is not the truth a person in sorrow really needs to hear. Perhaps we are having trouble convincing ourselves to really make an effort against a sinful habit in our lives. Into that moment, the devil speaks that God will take care of all things, and that confidence in his mercy should drive fear out of our souls. This is also true, but again, only part of the whole truth, and not what the person unwilling to fight against sin really needs to hear. By telling fragments of truth at the wrong moment, the devil can confuse us greatly, even influencing us to turn away from what our souls need, not to mention the damage he can do in the world with this underhanded tactic. We fight this by silencing the devil whenever we become aware that we are hearing half-truths, or when we become aware that some particular truth is strangely holding us back from the Lord. We fight this by asking the Lord to contradict us with the whole truth, by becoming familiar enough with our faith to know when something is missing, and by submitting our judgment with humility to a wise and holy Catholic friend or director. Only Christ tells us the whole truth, out of perfect love for our souls, and with him, we can remain firm in silencing the demons wherever they seek entrance into our hearts. Click here for source.

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Do you have any original thoughts or opinions on this hoax?

Arlington Catholic Herald

Now you're Catholic? Better ask the Pope...he might not want you.

… Lucifer … With all the advice you are giving out about Lucifer’s actions – perhaps you can help Adam Kinzinger since some claim he is possessed by the devil Maybe you can work on it – When you have time. Rep. Kinzinger: They claim 'I'm possessed by the devil' Rep. Adam Kinzinger on Sunday offered a glimpse of what it’s like being one of the 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach former President Donald Trump: Friends and family turned against him, and he was told he’s “possessed by the devil.” “Look it’s really difficult. I mean, all of a sudden imagine everybody that supported you, or so it seems that way, your friends, your family, has turned against you. They think you're selling out,” the Illinois congressman said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “I've gotten a letter, a certified letter, twice from the same people, disowning me and claiming I'm possessed by the devil.” In the days after the Jan. 6 insurrection at the Capitol, it appeared Republican leaders had decided to take a stand against Trump, with House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy saying Trump bore “responsibility” and that he must accept blame for the riot. But GOP members have begun heading back to the former president. On Thursday, McCarthy met with Trump at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida, in a meeting that was later described as “very good and cordial.” The readout was released with a photo of the two men smiling. “I was disappointed over the last few weeks to see what seemed like the Republican Party waking up and then kind of falling asleep again and saying, ‘Well, you know, what matters if we can win in two years and we don't want to tick off the base,’” Kinzinger said. “The photo," he added, "shows that the former president is desperate to continue looking like he’s leading the party.” Kinzinger has launched a website, Country1st.com, as an effort to refocus the Republican Party’s “conservative principles.” “I think the Republican Party has lost its moral authority in a lot of areas,” he said. “How many people think that conservative principles are things like build the wall, and you know, charge the Capitol and have an insurrection? That’s what Country1st ... is all about — is just going back and saying, ‘Here’s what conservative principles are.'" The Illinois Republican Party is expected to censure Kinzinger for his vote to impeach the president — what he referred to as “GOP cancel culture.” The same has happened for others like GOP Rep. Tom Rice of South Carolina after his vote to impeach. And last week, Rep. Matt Gaetz, (R-Fla.) went to Wyoming to rally against GOP. Rep. Liz Cheney for her moves against Trump. “If you look at Matt Gaetz going to Wyoming because, what, a tough woman has an independent view and he doesn't want to have to go out and explain why he didn't vote for impeachment, that's totally GOP cancel culture," Kinzinger said. "What we're standing for, and I think what, frankly, a significant part of the base wants, is to say, ‘Look, we can have a diversity of opinion.’” Outside of the intraparty chaos surrounding the former president’s impeachment, Republicans are also butting heads over the behavior of one of their own. House Republicans are trying to distance themselves from Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) after hours of Facebook videos surfaced in which she expresses racist, Islamophobic and anti-Semitic views. Kinzinger said the people have the right to choose their representatives, and that he isn’t sure he supports evicting the congresswoman. But he said he would vote her off committees to “take a stand.” Source. LMAO@U …

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) ... expresses racist, Islamophobic and anti-Semitic views.

What did she do? Tell the truth?

n the days after the Jan. 6 insurrection

A liar wrote what you quoted.

Your opinion is whatever google spits in your face.

Very few original ideas. Slandering people. Often incapable of answering simple questions.

Do you have any original thoughts or opinions on this hoax? Yes, I do – and I will share them with you. I find your mixture of claims, anecdotes and opinions where you continually say the coronavirus pandemic is a hoax and not real shows that you are 'out of touch with reality.' And unfortunately for you, being ‘out of touch with reality’ – is your reality. That is tragic because your false claims that coronavirus is a hoax has been repeatedly debunked. Since coronavirus cases top 104 million and deaths surpass 2.25 million is definitely no hoax. Proof that coronavirus is real is there – if you will only search for it. And where will you find the proof? You will find it: In the coronavirus testing data. By asking hospitals about coronavirus. By talking to the coronavirus patients. By asking the loved ones of the millions of people who have died if coronavirus is real. By Looking to outlets that report on the scientific information nd read the science yourself. There is an old saying: "God takes care of fools …" Please help God take care of you by doing the right thing for your own health and for the health of all others – by social distancing and wearing a mask. And thus, help everyone be able to get through this pandemic at their healthiest. You asked for: My original thoughts or opinions on [you calling this pandemic a] hoax. So, there you have some of them. I know they will be of no use to you. But, perhaps they can be to others …

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) ... expresses racist, Islamophobic and anti-Semitic views. What did she do? Don’t ask me – Go find out. Tell the truth? What do you think?

By asking the loved ones of the millions of people who have died if coronavirus is real.

I've already told you that the funeral homes are slower than ever before.

Where are they disposing of the "millions" of dead covid victims?

By Looking to outlets that report...

Satan is the god of this world. Satan is a deceiver/liar. The media outlets speak for Satan.

A liar wrote what you quoted. I quoted nothing. I posted an article. Your opinion is whatever google spits in your face. I stated NO opinion. Very few original ideas. A careful perusal of those few reveals they are exceptional and by limiting the number – I am not overloading your weak brain. Slandering people. Slander is the legal term for the act of harming a person's reputation by telling one or more other people something that is untrue and damaging about that person. Where exactly did I say anything untrue that damaged anyone? Often incapable of answering simple questions. Oh, they are answered alright. It’s just that you are unable to understand the answers. Or that you simply choose not to believe them.

There really is a covid disease. Do you think watchman will believe you? We shall see …

Oh, they are answered alright.

No you didn't. Somewhere Up there or on another thread you made a statement and I agreed with it. I asked for some real world examples. You gave me two names mine included. I didn't ask for names I asked for examples of the behavior. You couldn't do it. You just made unsubstantiated claims as you often do.

You still will not answer. That's ok it is par for the course with you. Either because you are lying or you're just a bit forgetful at your age. I think it is you're just forgetful. Nothing wrong with that we all grow old.

I've already told you that the funeral homes are slower than ever before. Where are they disposing of the "millions" of dead covid victims? That is simply not true. You need to check the sources of your information. It may be that Lucifer is feeding you lots of bullshit. Lucifer does things like that – So you say … Check these sources for their reports: Some funeral homes busier than ever https://katv.com/news/local/some- funeral-homes-busier-than-ever-death-certificates-taking-too-long Funeral homes, morgues grapple with surge in US Covid-19 deaths https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/15/health/funeral-homes- morgues-covid-deaths-wellness-partner/index.html Funeral homes busy during COVID-19 pandemic https://www.dakotanewsnow.com/2020/12/03/funeral-homes-busy- during-covid-19-pandemic/ San Joaquin County funeral homes overwhelmed with coronavirus deaths https://www.abc10.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/fune r al-homes-overwhelmed-with-coronaviurs-deaths/103-fc0ad5cd-760d-47bd- a00b-08ce1c129265 L.A. County morgues overflow, funeral homes turn away grieving families amid COVID-19 surge https://ktla.com/news/local-news/l-a-county-morgues-overflow- funeral-homes-turn-away-grieving-families-amid-covid-19-surge/ COVID-19 deaths create work overload for funeral homes https://www.cbsnews.com/video/covid-19- deaths-create-work-overload-for-funeral-homes/ California funeral homes run out of space as COVID-19 rages https://www.wyomingnews.com/rocketminer/coronavirus/c a lifornia-funeral-homes-run-out-of-space-as-covid-19- rages/article_ec0a0c97-7fe7-59eb-acbb-5d38995a5dc2.html Funeral home strained by COVID deaths https://www.wzzm13.com/article/news/funeral-home-strained- by-covid-deaths/69-aa82002d-68f6-4e4e-992d-d296bb26b9f5 Funeral homes see spike in services after surge of COVID-related deaths https://www.everythinglubbock.com/news/local-news/funeral- homes- see-spike-in-services-after-surge-of-covid-related-deaths/ Mexican funeral homes face 'horrific' unseen coronavirus toll https://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/health-med- fit/coronavirus/mexican-funeral-homes-face-horrific-unseen-coronavirus- toll/article_67c8fde6-bbe5-5f36-a8c3-1ec737e9f27a.html COVID-19 pandemic stretches funeral homes to the limit https://www.heraldstaronline.com/news/local-news/2021/01/covid- 19-pandemic-stretches-funeral-homes-to-the-limit/

There really is a covid disease.

Indeed. Covid has been identified as a corona virus, which is simply the common cold. Covid presents just like the common cold, even milder. Most never know they have it.

And yes, a common cold can kill those with weak immune systems, underlying illnesses, especially the elderly.

The doctors I know personally and can speak candidly with about the virus cannot tell me how Covid corona differs from any other corona. For example, how does it target the lungs with more lethality that common corona.

The numbers are probably over reported. By how much I don't know.

Judging by the seasonal flu data I studied a year ago, the CDC plays fast and loose with statistics. They openly use pneumonia deaths to bolster their seasonal flu deaths by more than 50%. And, the national seasonal flu death rate never correlates with state death rates, neither of which correspond with reportage from state and local news outlets.

Add to this, the Covid testing equipment is just plain worthless. It gives a whopping 45% false positive. It's wrong half the time. Yikes!

You need to check the sources of your information.

I do check the sources. I check the funeral home obit listings.

I don't believe a word the CNN says.

So I went to one of the funeral homes listed in one of your links.

This funeral home web page has a ticker tape of Covid death world wide. However when you click "See all Obits" they have the normal listing I'd expect from people dying at a normal rate. Given this is a populated area the listings look a mite slim. Hope they don't fold like the empty hospitals are about to do.

Oh, they are answered alright. No you didn't. Somewhere Up there or on another thread you made a statement and I agreed with it. I asked for some real world examples. You gave me two names mine included. I didn't ask for names I asked for examples of the behavior. You couldn't do it. You just made unsubstantiated claims as you often do. You still will not answer. That's ok it is par for the course with you. Either because you are lying or you're just a bit forgetful at your age. I think it is you're just forgetful. Nothing wrong with that we all grow old. You asked for examples. I gave you the names of persons. You need to try to understand that a person is one to whom credit and blame may be attached, one who is deemed responsible. The concept of a person is the concept of an agent. The word "person" derives from a Latin (and originally a Greek) word meaning "character in a drama" or "mask" (because actors wore masks). This usage survives today in the phrase "dramatis personae." To be a person, from this standpoint, is to play a role. The person is the role played. I repeat: “The person is the role played.” Ergo, “the person is the example.” If you simply cannot understand this, and you want me to go find quotes from those I listed – Then I surely will, and you know that. Is that what you wanty me to do?

You need to check the sources of your information. I do check the sources. I check the funeral home obit listings. I don't believe a word the CNN says. So I went to one of the funeral homes listed in one of your links. This funeral home web page has a ticker tape of Covid death world wide. However when you click "See all Obits" they have the normal listing I'd expect from people dying at a normal rate. Given this is a populated area the listings look a mite slim. Hope they don't fold like the empty hospitals are about to do. Let me get this straight. You can tell that coronavirus is a hoax and people are not dying by going to the obit of a funeral home and comparing the number of deaths to those during the same time last year. It that what you are saying? Wow … According to a global survey from YouGovM – “Around 13 percent of Americans think that the coronavirus probably or definitely isn’t real.” I have now learned from reading here that … ,,, when talking to a COVID denier, focus on understanding and engaging, not convincing them, experts say. Ltting a COVID denier know you care about them can go a long way toward preserving the relationship, even if you can’t find common ground on the pandemic. I will forever have no discussion about coronavirus with that in mind. I wish you well – And I hope you stay healthy …