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#1: Deckard    To: A K A Stone (#0)

President-elect Joe Biden is known for his many gaffes and slip-ups, but his most recent interview is just…totally bizarre. In an interview with CNN’s Jake Tapper, Biden sat down with his running mate Sen. Kamala Harris to talk about the grounds of “moral principle” and what their team would do in handling moral disagreement.

“Like I told Barack, if I reach something where there’s a fundamental disagreement we have based on a moral principle, I’ll develop some disease and say I have to resign.” Said Biden.

Was this another Freudian slip? First, it was the greatest election fraud the left could put together and now the real plan is out in the open. Biden is going to develop a disease and resign for Kamala. One could argue he already has a disease. A cognitive one. Whether or not Biden was kidding is up to the viewer, but it was quite an extreme point to make if such a “disagreement” would happen.

This has been the plan all along.

Deckard posted on 2020-12-07 05:28:12   Reply   Private Reply


#2: IbJensen    To: Deckard (#1)

https://twitter.com/i/status/1335690026391363589

IbJensen posted on 2020-12-07 07:59:03   Reply   Private Reply


#3: WWG1WWA    To: Deckard (#1)

Yep. Worse, she is not a natural born citizen.

WWG1WWA posted on 2020-12-07 22:51:30   Reply   Private Reply


#4: Pinguinite    To: A K A Stone (#0)

Having considered this a bit....

#1) Definitely another gaff.

#2) Having said that, the comment was specifically about what he said to Obama when Biden was VP. That is, if Biden, as VP had a moral disagreement with Obama, Biden would resign from being VP and use a fake illness as a pretext to do so.

I think the implication of his comment here is that if VP Harris has a moral disagreement with how Prez Biden was doing things, then SHE should get some kind of fake illness and resign from being VP.

Harris apparently does not agree with that comment, but obviously a real reporter should inquire directly to them both to clarify.

Pinguinite posted on 2020-12-08 12:52:11   Reply   Private Reply


#5: A K A Stone    To: Pinguinite (#4)

You have mail

A K A Stone posted on 2020-12-09 09:59:42   Reply   Private Reply


#6: nolu chan    To: WWG1WWA (#3)

Worse, she is not a natural born citizen.

Born in Cali. There are only two classes of citizen; naturalized and natural or born citizens. Harris is a natural born citizen.

All persons born in the United States, subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are born citizens of the United States. Subject to the jurisdiction means subject to the laws. Unless the child is born to an accredited diplomat who has immunity or visiting royalty with immunity, the child is born subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

nolu chan posted on 2020-12-09 16:14:04   Reply   Private Reply


#7: WWG1WWA    To: nolu chan (#6)

Her parents were not citizens at the time of her birth, is my understanding. Unless I'm confusing her with someone else. Her father is Jamaican, mother is East Indian. Wasn't she raised in Canada?

WWG1WWA posted on 2020-12-17 05:09:26   Reply   Private Reply


#8: nolu chan    To: WWG1WWA (#7)

Her parents were not citizens at the time of her birth, is my understanding.

That is my understanding also. So what?

Unless I'm confusing her with someone else. Her father is Jamaican, mother is East Indian. Wasn't she raised in Canada?

She was born in California. The fathers of Barack Obama and Chester Arthur were not U.S. citizens at the time of the birth of those presidents.

"All persons born ... in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States...."

The plain, black letter words of the Constitution are clear. This did not change U.S. citizenship law but placed it beyond the reach of Congress. As colonies, all children born in the English colonies were natural born subjects of the King. After freeing themselves from English rule, all thirteen of the original states adopted so much of the English common law as was not inconsistent with the federal Constitution. Each did so explicitly, either in their state constitution or state statute law. All children born in the states prior to the 14th Amendment were natural born citizens of the United States.

There is no qualifier in the 14th Amendment about citizen parents, or where the child is raised after birth. What controls is the place of birth, and the law in effect at the time of birth.

For children born outside the United States, Federal law in effect at the time of birth controls.

Subject to the jurisdiction means subject to United States law. Except for visiting royalty, or those accredited diplomats (and their family) who enjoy diplomatic immunity, all aliens present in the United States are subject to United States law, i.e., subject to United States jurisdiction. If they murder someone, they can be arrested, tried, convicted, and thrown in prison or executed for their crime.

Birther blather about two U.S. citizens is based on the writings of Emer de Vattel, a Swiss who wrote a book in French called and about The Law of Nations. Vattel died before the Declaration of Independence. His book had nothing to do with the citizenship law of the United States. The Law of Nations is the old fashioned term for International Law. It applies to relations between nation states. It has no application to the purely domestic determinations of any nation. United States citizenship is a purely domestic determination made by the United States.

In constitutional law, the words of the Constitution as understood by the common people at the time of ratification prevail. There are qualifications for Senators and Congressmen and nothing can be added or deleted by Congress, for example term limits were shot down as unconstitutional. There are qualifications for President, being at least 35 years old and a natural born citizen. There are two classifications of citizen, and two only - naturalized and natural born. Naturalized citizens are born as aliens are acquire U.S. citizenship at some later time through the legal process of naturalization. Natural born citizens are born citizens.

nolu chan posted on 2020-12-17 13:12:05   Reply   Private Reply


#9: BorisY    To: nolu chan (#8)

two classifications of citizen, and two only

1. naTuralized - immigranT

2. naTive - no parents ( senaTe QualificaTion )

3. naTural - both parenTs ( presidenT )

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BorisY posted on 2020-12-17 13:29:13   Reply   Private Reply


#10: nolu chan    To: BorisY (#9)

1. naTuralized - immigranT

2. naTive - no parents ( senaTe QualificaTion )

3. naTural - both parenTs ( presidenT )

Native citizen and natural citizen are synonomous. The birther blather attempted against Obama went 0-225 in court.

There was no immigration law until the 1870s, after the 14th Amendment was adopted. Free white European immigrants were actively sought to populate the territories as the Indian population was displaced. There was no such thing as an illegal alien. The law could use an update, but it has not happened.

Senate qualification, Art. 1, Sec. 3, Cl. 3:

No person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the age of thirty years, and been nine years a citizen of the United States and who shall not, when elected, be an inhabitant of that state for which he shall be chosen.

A senator may be alien born. He need only be nine years a citizen.

Black's Law Dictionary

natural born citizen 1. A person born within the jurisdiction of a national government. 2. A person born outside the jurisdiction of a national government to a parent who is a citizen of that nation.

native born 1. Born within the territorial jurisdiction of a country. 2. Born of parents who convey rights of citizenship to their offspring, regardless of the place of birth.

naturalized citizen. A foreign-born person who attains citizenship by law.

nolu chan posted on 2020-12-17 16:35:41   Reply   Private Reply


#11: BorisY    To: nolu chan (#10)

You're welcome To believe - call iT

whaT ever you like

Just another anachronism now

The way The lefT views everyThing

BorisY posted on 2020-12-17 19:27:50   Reply   Private Reply