"Conclusion: In the Gospels, Jesus signifies to us that the observance of the Last Supper (or Eucharist) will end when He returns. It ended in February (in most Churches). In other words, God has returned, and now it is judgment day."

How many times have charlatans and false prophets have "predicted" Judgement Day (or the Rapture) and been 100% wrong?

You are in that category.

How many times have charlatans and false prophets have "predicted" Judgement Day (or the Rapture) and been 100% wrong?

You are in that category.

Ha, there is definitely no "rapture," only judgment day. The so-called rapture defies all the laws of physics (which God created and cannot violate).

You need to read what Jesus said about the second coming, and not Paul.

Barry Midyet

You need to read what Jesus said about the second coming … He won’t bother to look it up. Therefore, I will post here for everyone to read – that we find in John 14:2-3 where Jesus said: “I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also.” Jesus has promised that He is coming back. We can find comfort with these words. We need not wait in terror. Because as true believers we have the hope of the coming again of Jesus. When Jesus was getting ready to depart and return back to the Father, some of His disciples and His friends were watching and waiting – when two angels said: “Why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven” (Acts 1:11). That is God’s promise to you and me.

The so-called rapture defies all the laws of physics (which God created and cannot violate).

God is going to absolutely violate the laws of physics when he raises us from the dirt.

1 Corinthians 15:52 - In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

The rapture is Biblical...

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be CAUGHT UP together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

The rapture is Biblical...

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be CAUGHT UP together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

I take everything Paul said with a grain of salt -- the salt being what Jesus said about the same subject. The second coming, when Jesus returned in person, occurred during the night of October 27th, when the sign of Christ appeared in the clouds, which everyone saw including Rome's pagan soldiers -- a Chi-Rho, the first two letters of Christ in Greek. A bit later that same night, Jesus appeared to St. Constantine and told him, "With this sign, conquer" (fulfilling Matt 24:30).

And that's what Constantine promptly did. After putting the sign on his Labarum and all of his army's armor, he mounted his white horse and carrying only a bow, conquered Rome and all the known world for Jesus and the Church (fulfilling Revelation 6:1-2).

And there was no "rapture."

Instead, after defeating Licinius and solidifying his reign, in 325 AD Constantine sent messengers out with a loud trumpet and gathered all the elect of the Church together -- to his summer palace, in Nicea (fulfilling Matthew 14:31). And no one flew through the air. Most of them either walked or rode donkeys, but a few arrived by boat. After suffering severe persecution for decades (all their lives), most of the 300 attendees proclaimed that they were in Heaven, but some said, No, it is a foretaste of Heaven.

Anyhow, the original Nicene Creed (the 325 AD version) did NOT say Jesus would return in the future because He had already returned.

Jesus has promised that He is coming back.

We can find comfort with these words.

No Jesus will NOT return again (in person) because He has already returned (in 312 AD).

No Jesus will NOT return again (in person) because He has already returned (in 312 AD).

Apparently you're the only "prophet" making that absurd claim.

because He had already returned

You are a false prophet.

Jesus promised such as you would arise...and here you are.

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

You say, "Christ appeared in the clouds" and "He is in His summer place" Next you will say, "He is in the desert" or "He is in the secret chambers".

You are here to deceive the very elect if you can.

Good luck, Barry.

Do you know that you are a false teacher, or, do you actually believe what you are teaching?

I'm sincerely curious about how this whole false teaching thing works.

Any insight would be helpful...

No Jesus will NOT return again (in person) because He has already returned (in 312 AD). Apparently you're the only "prophet" making that absurd claim.

There is nothing absurd or false about anything I say because it is all in the history books.

(or at least it used to be before modern historians started rewriting history, and taking out all the references to Jesus returning in 312 AD.

There is nothing absurd or false about anything I say because it is all in the history books.

Oh really? Jesus Christ has already returned? In the history books you say?

(or at least it used to be before modern historians started rewriting history, and taking out all the references to Jesus returning in 312 AD.

Oh sure, yeah - that's convenient. If Jesus had already returned why is the world still on the eve of destruction?

Look Barry, I'm sure you're a good Christian, but seriously....Jesus did not return in 312 AD.

I do have a question for you.

Do you know that you are a false teacher, or, do you actually believe what you are teaching?

I'm sincerely curious about how this whole false teaching thing works.

Any insight would be helpful...

I believe everything I'm teaching regarding the second coming because it's all recorded in the history books.

(at least it is in the older history books that I remember -- before history began to be rewritten by modern historians).

Oh really? Jesus Christ has already returned? In the history books you say?

(or at least it used to be before modern historians started rewriting history, and taking out all the references to Jesus returning in 312 AD.

Oh sure, yeah - that's convenient. If Jesus had already returned why is the world still on the eve of destruction?

When I went to school (in the early '60's), it was in every history book I read (both in High School and college textbooks).

Why do you say we are "still" on the eve of destruction? That is a modern phenomenon.

Back in 325 AD, all Christians were in heaven as it was meant to be and we must strive to get back to that. As Jesus said, Do not look here, nor there, for the coming of Heaven. The Kingdom of God is within you.

In my updated (2020) edition, at the end of my ten pages on the new disease called the coronavirus, version 2019, I wrote:

"Conclusion: In the Gospels, Jesus signifies to us that the observance of the Last Supper (or Eucharist) will end when He returns. It ended in February (in most Churches). In other words, God has returned, and now it is judgment day."

Barry Midyet, The Revelation A Historicist View, 2017 ed., p. 31:

In verse 11 and throughout the Revelation, Jesus says He is coming quickly. And the history books say He did indeed return quickly, in AD 312. Yet there are many thousands of Christians who, for some reason, try to construe that to mean He will return in our future, some two thousand years later.

In my updated (2020) edition, at the end of my ten pages on the new disease called the coronavirus, version 2019, I wrote: "Conclusion: In the Gospels, Jesus signifies to us that the observance of the Last Supper (or Eucharist) will end when He returns. It ended in February (in most Churches). In other words, God has returned, and now it is judgment day."

Barry Midyet, The Revelation A Historicist View, 2017 ed., p. 31:

In verse 11 and throughout the Revelation, Jesus says He is coming quickly. And the history books say He did indeed return quickly, in AD 312. Yet there are many thousands of Christians who, for some reason, try to construe that to mean He will return in our future, some two thousand years later.

Ahh, I see where you are coming from.

Two different returns. In 312 AD, Jesus returned in person, and He only returns once in person (in bodily form).

But now, He is bringing Judgment Day upon the Earth as prophesied (in Revelation 14:14), but by manipulating viruses , etc. from behind the scenes, staying invisible and basically using Mother Nature, His other half.

Hope that helps.

PS. I may need to add a little footnote to that last paragraph. Thank you for pointing that out, bro.

Barry Midyet