FACT: It is illegal in the United States to sell, offer for sale or promote via any means that touches interstate commerce (which would include any communications form that crosses a state line) any drug or device intended to treat, prevent or cure any disease or disorder of the human body without proof in the form of random clinical trials which are then submitted and analyzed by the FDA. This is controlled under the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act (Title 21 USC.) The government goes after sellers of supplements and devices on this basis all the time. The law is crystal clear in this regard; both safety and efficacy must be scientifically proved, reviewed and then formally approved by the FDA.
FACT: There are protocols for "compassionate use" and similar for drugs and devices in the pipeline for approval, or approved in other nations, but such are specific to an individual person and circumstance (e.g. in the event of a terminal illness) and cannot be ordered as either a "standard of care" nor ordered against someone's expressed desires.
FACT: Flu-like illness (ILI) kills roughly 60,000 Americans a year. As a result of that significant toll of death and disease we have studied the means by which such transmission can be modified or interrupted entirely for roughly the last 100 years dating all the way back to the Flu Pandemic of 1918, including but certainly not limited to random clinical trials, both in health care settings and in the general population.
FACT: There are multiple random clinical trials that have been performed on the efficacy of face coverings of various sorts, from N95 masks on down to cloth coverings in the general population with the aim of identifying effective means of controlling the spread of ILI ("influenza like illness"), specifically respiratory viruses.
FACT: There is NO record established by said Random Clinical Trials (RCTs) in over one hundred years, including those performed in the last 20 years, that establishes statistically-significant effectiveness of face coverings for the prevention of transmission of ILI. Exactly zero science supports such a claim.
FACT: As a direct result of the lack of such evidence the FDA has never issued an approval for any facial covering intended to be used in the general population for the suppression of any illness, including but not limited to Covid-19. In fact I suspect no such approval has ever been sought, otherwise someone would have tried to make money on a "flu mask", making such a medical claim, in previous years.
FACT: It is therefore UNLAWFUL under United States Law for any seller to advertise, market, sell, vend or represent that any facial covering in fact does or will prevent, treat or cure any transmissible disease whatsoever as exactly zero said devices when used by the general population have ever been certified and approved for said use. THIS IS FEDERAL LAW (TITLE 21) AND IS NOT A SUGGESTION.
This is why every package of N95 masks at the Home Deport (and elsewhere) has the clear statement on the "use document" that comes with it which states it does not prevent the transmission of any disease.
To not so-state would be a violation of federal law.
It is thus likewise impermissible for any element of a State or Local Government to mandate the use of a device that is not FDA approved for such a purpose since it is flatly against the law to recommend or so state that an unapproved drug or device is safe or effective to cure, treat or prevent any disease.
Such a government entity is in fact mandating a direct violation of United States Federal Law and committing said violation itself through promotion of said use.
END OF DISCUSSION.
#1: A K A Stone To: nolu chan (#0)
A K A Stone posted on 2020-07-05 16:22:29 Reply Private Reply
#2: Deckard To: A K A Stone (#0)
Hello, America. I may not be your president right now but Ive got to tell you, the 4th of July is still my favorite holiday and it always will be, Pullman said in a video posted to YouTube Saturday.
This Independence Day, Im going to be celebrating my freedom in a really important way, he continued. Im gonna be wearing my freedom mask every time I go into public places. Thats right, freedom masks. Because if everybody in America agreed to wear one of these going into public places, wed be a little closer to being free to safely go back to places like bars and restaurants and schools and most importantly movie theaters.
Get with the program Stone - Even Dick Cheney says "Real Men Wear Masks"
Deckard posted on 2020-07-05 17:08:18 Reply Private Reply
#3: A K A Stone To: Deckard (#2)
A K A Stone posted on 2020-07-05 17:22:00 Reply Private Reply
#4: Fred Mertz To: A K A Stone (#3)
You are a dick.
I'd buy this for you.
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Fred Mertz posted on 2020-07-05 17:41:20 Reply Private Reply
#5: Fred Mertz To: A K A Stone (#3)
Fred Mertz posted on 2020-07-05 17:45:20 Reply Private Reply
#6: Hank Rearden To: A K A Stone (#3)
I carry a red MAGA mask from here: smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B087Q82G7C/
If I get Karen'd by some leftist asshole, I'll don it and ask if they like it better.
Hank Rearden posted on 2020-07-05 18:32:48 Reply Private Reply
#7: Deckard To: Fred Mertz (#5)
Is this it?
Deckard posted on 2020-07-05 19:01:56 Reply Private Reply
#8: Fred Mertz To: Deckard (#7)
Fred Mertz posted on 2020-07-05 23:51:17 Reply Private Reply
#9: Gatlin To: A K A Stone, All (#3)
Gatlin posted on 2020-07-06 08:18:30 Reply Private Reply
#10: A K A Stone To: Gatlin (#9)
A K A Stone posted on 2020-07-07 16:03:46 Reply Private Reply
#11: nolu chan To: A K A Stone (#1)
I'm still out here.
The power for a state to issue an emergency proclamation/order with the force of law in a public health emergency comes from the police power which was withheld by the people from the federal government and given to the state governments. The people of different states may grant the emergency power to the governor or to another official, such as the senior public health official.
nolu chan posted on 2020-07-07 16:15:37 Reply Private Reply
#12: Deckard To: A K A Stone (#9)
And Trump has defiantly refused to wear a mask and has yet to make wearing a submission mask mandatory.
Yet Gatlin is in staunch agreement with the leftists.
What are we to make of this?
Biden Says He Would Force Americans To Wear Face Masks In Public If Elected
I'm sure Tater is on-board with that.
It's a shame when a once loyal Trump supporter goes over to the dark side.
Deckard posted on 2020-07-07 16:15:58 Reply Private Reply
#13: Gatlin To: A K A Stone, All (#10)
Gatlin posted on 2020-07-08 18:39:09 Reply Private Reply
#14: rustynail To: A K A Stone (#0)
rustynail posted on 2020-07-08 19:21:55 Reply Private Reply
#15: Gatlin To: nolu chan, A K A Stone, All (#11)
Gatlin posted on 2020-07-08 19:31:45 Reply Private Reply
#16: Gatlin To: nolu chan, A K A Stone, All (#11)
Gatlin posted on 2020-07-08 19:41:08 Reply Private Reply
#17: Gatlin To: rustynail, A K A Stone, All (#14)
Gatlin posted on 2020-07-08 21:14:30 Reply Private Reply
#18: nolu chan To: Gatlin, A K A Stone (#16)
U.S. Const., Art. 10,
ALL power resides with the people. Everything not delegated to the Federal government was reserved to the People except for what they have delegated to their State. The People of each State can delegate as much of their power as they choose to the State. Precisely what is delegated, and to what specific official, varies by State. Your question amounts to Do the People "the power to issue an emergency proclamation/order with the force of law to require face masks use during a pandemic" and impose that requirement upon themselves, and have they delegated that power to the Governor or another official?
State Emergency Powers Acts usually contain a grant of general authority to either the Governor or a Public Health official. An Act of the People's representatives in the legislature is considered an Act of the People. If they do not want their grant of authority to be general and broad, encompassing damn near anything and everything, they need to change their law which delegates their authority.
nolu chan posted on 2020-07-08 22:25:24 Reply Private Reply
#19: nolu chan To: Gatlin, A K A Stone (#15)
Yes, but it cannot close the churches and keep the bars and marijuana dispensaries open, without running afoul of religious discrimination law. De Blasio's closing of churches (and playgrounds, etc.) while supporting BLM protests is an example of legal stupidity. The government can declare a quarantine, but not an irrational selective quarantine.
nolu chan posted on 2020-07-08 22:37:37 Reply Private Reply
#20: Gatlin To: A K A Stone, aLL (#10)
Gatlin posted on 2020-07-09 03:58:07 Reply Private Reply
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Gatlin posted on 2020-07-09 04:43:36 Reply Private Reply
#22: Deckard To: Gatlin (#21)
I don't see any of your posts being deleted.
BTW, nobody likes a whiner.
Deckard posted on 2020-07-09 14:03:58 Reply Private Reply
#23: Gatlin To: Deckard, All (#22)
Gatlin posted on 2020-07-22 03:17:02 Reply Private Reply