Visa has filed an application to create digital currency on a blockchain with the United States Patent and Trademark Office.
According to the application published May 14 but filed back in November 2018 inventors Simon Hurry and Alexander Pierre with the Visa International Service Association in San Francisco have sought a patent for a digital currency recorded on a blockchain and controlled by a central entity computer.
It cites Ethereum as a possible network. The application details two records, one of which would indicate the digital currency for an amount associated with the denomination has been created for a public key associated with a digital wallet. The other record notes the removal of the physical currency from circulation in a fiat currency system.
The application describes a centralized process to maintain the value of the stablecoin:
Every time a dollar worth of digital fiat currency is generated, the central entity ensures that a corresponding physical dollar bill is removed from circulation, in order to regulate the value of the digital fiat currency.
While the U.S. dollar is specifically mentioned as one of the fiat currencies to be used, Forbes reported that the patent could apply to other central bank digital currencies such as pounds, yen and euros: The physical currency of a central bank anywhere in the world could be digitized.
Visa becoming more crypto friendly
In February, Coinbase announced that it had become a principal member of Visa, which would allow the exchange to issue debit cards for spending crypto. Two months later, the Lightning-compatible Fold app joined Visas Fintech Fast Track Program to roll out a co-branded Bitcoin (BTC) cashback rewards card.
#1: Deckard To: Liberator, Stoner, A K A Stone, watchman, Fred Mertz (#0)
Deckard posted on 2020-05-22 04:53:58 Reply Private Reply
#2: Fred Mertz To: Deckard, sneakypete (#1)
My gf was issued a debit card from her work place and her paycheck is automated and that's how it has been.
At least I received my stimulation check and have some Ben Franklins and U.S. Grants in my flour container.
Fred Mertz posted on 2020-05-22 05:15:02 Reply Private Reply
#3: Hondo68 To: Deckard (#1)
Real money is Gold & Silver. This digital blockchain can be cut off by the .gov & is useless in the event of a power failure anyways.
Hondo68 posted on 2020-05-22 06:38:41 Reply Private Reply
#4: sneakypete To: Deckard (#0)
What the hell is a "blockchain" and a "central entity computer"?
SPECIFICALLY,as used in the quote,not in general terms.
sneakypete posted on 2020-05-22 13:04:44 Reply Private Reply
#5: sneakypete To: Fred Mertz (#2)
I STILL believe it. The same day the goobermint announces we are going to a cash-free society is the day we need to pick up our rifles and go into politics. If we wait until it happens,they can prevent us from marching on DC by simply deleting our ID numbers in their data banks,and suddenly,"Poof! We don't even exist,and have never existed!"
I believe him.
Thanks. I really have to struggle to believe there is anyone who can't understand a truth as basic as this one.
At least I received my stimulation check and have some Ben Franklins and U.S. Grants in my flour container.
Won't do you any good to have cash if it is no longer accepted as anything other than a fire starter. No digital bank account will = "no such person exists".
If you want to save something valuable in that flour can,fill it with biscuits and bullets. It has been my experience that if you have bullets and a device to launch them and a smile,you can get pretty much anything you want if you ask nicely.
sneakypete posted on 2020-05-22 13:13:47 Reply Private Reply
#6: sneakypete To: Hondo68 (#3)
sneakypete posted on 2020-05-22 13:14:41 Reply Private Reply
#7: Hondo68 To: sneakypete, Liberator, Stoner, A K A Stone, watchman, Fred Mertz (#6)
Hondo68 posted on 2020-05-22 17:13:08 Reply Private Reply
#8: sneakypete To: Hondo68 (#7)
Gee,I wonder if there is any selfish self-interest involved?
sneakypete posted on 2020-05-22 21:30:02 Reply Private Reply
#9: Pinguinite To: Deckard (#0)
It's an important distinction as any currency, digital or otherwise, that can be created at will is essentially subject to counterfeiting, a term I would consider applicable even when done by the central issuer. Including the Fed Reserve Bank when it does that with dollars.
Pinguinite posted on 2020-05-23 00:15:07 Reply Private Reply
#10: Pinguinite To: Hondo68 (#3)
True.
A centrally controlled digital currency can be cut off by those in central control. Bitcoin and other major alt cryptos are not centrally controlled and therefore cannot be cut off at the gov's whim. There could be a nuclear war wiping out the USA, Russia and China, and bitcoin would survive it.
So are all banks, debit cards credit cards and the vast majority of dollars as they only exist in digital form and not cash or coin form.
Pinguinite posted on 2020-05-23 00:21:19 Reply Private Reply
#11: A K A Stone To: sneakypete (#5)
I like your spirit Pete.
A K A Stone posted on 2020-05-23 06:51:48 Reply Private Reply
#12: Hondo68 To: Pinguinite (#10)
Gold & Silver retain their value/purchasing-power, over the long haul.
Hondo68 posted on 2020-05-23 10:41:22 Reply Private Reply
#13: Pinguinite To: Hondo68 (#12)
I can categorically assure you that statement is not true. Govs can only shutdown modes of payment that are centralized, which includes paper fiat they issue. Free market crypto is decentralized, which means no single place, or even multiple places where blockchain nodes exits can be destroyed such that the crypto is destroyed.
It's amusing that when FB annouced their Libra currency that DC had a fit and called for hearings and such before FB would proceed with it. They called Zuckerberg to DC to explain to Congress how it would work and were concerned about drugs, terrorism and all that.
But when bitcoin rolled out, they didn't do that. They didn't call anyone up. And the reason was that there was no one to call. That's the beauty of decentralization.
Free market crypto like bitcoin are all decentralized and cannot be mass produced out of thin air like dollars can, and cannot be shutdown by any gov at all.
True. Which is why having crypto right now is a good place to be, IMO. They can mass produce dollars, but not free market crypto.
BTW, the C-virus response of printing is in no way Trump's fault. Though the D's that hate him it seems would be happy to see Trump damaged by this even if it means detroying the country.
They are good to have as well right now, of course. But cannot work as a currency except in the form of backing a promissory note like what the dollar used to be. And we all know how long that lasted.
Pinguinite posted on 2020-05-23 13:56:51 Reply Private Reply
#14: Hondo68 To: Pinguinite (#13)
Gold & Silver coinage is very practical for day to day commerce. A large value in these PM coins can be carried in your pocket. This worked well in the early days of this nation.
Your point about decenteralized digital currency is true, it's not under .gov control at the moment, but it could be with some Mitch & Nancy shenanigans signed onto by the prez, or not. For instance a bitcoin "sales" tax. This is done in many states for PM's, and is now being collected by retailers nationwide thanks to legislation signed by prez Donnell.
However these digital currencies have no more intrinsic value than FRN's, they're backed by nothing.
Hondo68 posted on 2020-05-23 14:19:35 Reply Private Reply
#15: Pinguinite To: Hondo68 (#14)
Correct. It won't happen.
You cannot buy things remotely with gold/silver itself, such as over the internet, which is a big part of the economy these days. But even in the old days, people often deposited their gold/silver coins in a bank and instead often traded the paper claim tickets for goods & services, instead of trading the gold silver itself. Thus, paper currency was born. Remote transactions were almost never supported by gold/silver coinage itself, but by letters of credit.
There is the small but important point of enforcement. Taxing precious metal sales is one thing because states have regulatory control over brick & mortor shops that sell them. But crypto transactions can be completed between private parties without need of any physical buying locations. So a tax like that would be unenforceable.
That's correct, they do not. But there are many attributes that a good currency/money should have, and free market crypto scores pretty highly on them. Free market crypto is limited in supply (cannot be printed at will by a privileged party), extremely divisible & does not spoil/rot, to name a few.
Pinguinite posted on 2020-05-24 11:14:21 Reply Private Reply
#16: sneakypete To: Hondo68 (#14)
ONLY in the imaginary world you live in.
In the REAL world,he is a President,not a dictator.
sneakypete posted on 2020-05-25 17:30:21 Reply Private Reply