Any song that starts with "gunta gleebin glaubin globern" has got to be good:

You're right.

Good tune...but I was never a fan of the "gunta gleebin glaubin globern" intro.

The song begins with a voice that says ""Gunter Glieben Glauten Globen". What does that mean? The answer is it doesn't mean anything. Producer Mutt Lange got tired of counting the band in with "1, 2, 3, 4...," so he started saying this.The boys liked it so they put it in the song. It means so much, it means nothing.

Interesting back story...

THAT is the reason? Mutt Lange??

Great producer...the guy was known as a perfectionist. This intro was just dumb. I didn't listen to this tune for the longest time because of the dopey intro. (so it DID "mean" something after all.)

I'm more into harder rock as I'm sure you know.

"Harder"? Or more satanic?

I hate to burst your bubble, but...do you know anything about symbolism? OR, Ozzy's affectionate lyrics and ode to THE one and only, 'Mr Crowley'? (do you know who HE was?) I'm only the messenger.

https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Rock-n-Roll/ozzy.htm

https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Rock-n-Roll/ozzy.htm

Seems Boston is in "Jesus is Saviour's" Hall of Shame. Right from your own site you referenc.

Boston: promotes fornication, wild immoral parties, drug abuse, indifference, smoking pot, lead singer commit suicide in March 2007 (left a suicide note saying, "I am a lonely soul")

https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Rock-n-Roll/shame.htm

I was in Junior High so we decided it was "The Greatest Song Ever!"

Baby the Rain Must Fall

Some men climb a mountain
Some men swim the sea
Some men fly above the sky
They are what they must be

But, baby the rain must fall
Baby, the wind must blow
Wherever my heart leads me
Baby, I must go, baby I must go

I do not love for silver
I do not love for gold
My heart is mine to give away
It never will be sold

But, baby the rain must fall

Baby, the wind must blow
Wherever my heart leads me
Baby, I must go, baby I must go

I am not rich or famous
But who can ever tell
I don't know now what waits for me
Maybe Heaven, maybe Hell *

But, baby the rain must fall
Baby, the wind must blow
Wherever my heart leads me
Baby, I must go, baby I must go

Heard This song

1964

was a senior in high school

said iT was going To go To number # one

disappeared for a few weeks

came back

went To # one

love
boris

* in college

ThaT all changed

Now if you're also referring to Side B of the 'Don't Look Back' album, I absolutely agree! So you noticed as well? (Only 'Feeling Satisfied' met the standard of excellence as heard on Side A, and the debut album material.)

I'll have to listen to them again, now knowing a bit more of the background of MTAF. My feelings on them certainly won't change but I could better quantify my impression.

Apparently Scholtz didn't even need a band -- he covered the bass on that debut album, guitars, and even keyboards. He was maybe the first to be a "virtual" band thank to his MIT skills.

I read somewhere the conundrum he was in, having made great rock music songs in his basement but with no ability to put on a concert and no real bandmates. In that light, the backside description on the LP cover on that debut album is an interesting spin, so to speak, as it's a pitch to ignore the band history and "listen to the album".

Seems Boston is in "Jesus is Saviour's" Hall of Shame. Right from your own site you referenc.

Boston: promotes fornication, wild immoral parties, drug abuse, indifference, smoking pot, lead singer commit suicide in March 2007 (left a suicide note saying, "I am a lonely soul")

I'm glad you paid attention and looked the site over and found some truth.

However IF we are going to measure the relative "shame" between Boston's rock lyrics and Ozzy's, Boston's lyrics do not promote a blatant brand of evil and depression, the worship of Satan, or promoting suicide like Black Sabbath (Ozzy was sued FOR causing actual suicides, wasn't he?)

If you want to compare and parse the actual music, everyone identifies most of Ozzy's musical compositions and themes as darkening the soul and purposely casting demonic palls upon the spirit. He's a creepy magician casting spells over teens.

Boston's music? Not so much. In fact, not at all. Their music, chords and melodies are upbeat and harmonious. It mostly celebrates the spirit and life.

between Boston's rock lyrics and Ozzy's, Boston's lyrics do not promote a blatant brand of evil and depression, the worship of Satan, or promoting suicide like Black Sabbath (Ozzy was sued FOR causing actual suicides, wasn't he?)

You are making stuff up. You ask so here are some Ozzy Black Sabbath lyrics.

"After Forever"

Have you ever thought about your soul - can it be saved? Or perhaps you think that when you're dead you just stay in your grave Is God just a thought within your head or is he a part of you? Is Christ just a name that you read in a book when you were in school?

When you think about death do you lose your breath or do you keep your cool? Would you like to see the Pope on the end of a rope - do you think he's a fool? Well I have seen the truth, yes I've seen the light and I've changed my ways And I'll be prepared when you're lonely and scared at the end of our days

Could it be you're afraid of what your friends might say If they knew you believe in God above? They should realize before they criticize that God is the only way to love

Is your mind so small that you have to fall In with the pack wherever they run Will you still sneer when death is near And say they may as well worship the sun?

I think it was true it was people like you that crucified Christ I think it is sad the opinion you had was the only one voiced Will you be so sure when your day is near, say you don't believe? You had the chance but you turned it down, now you can't retrieve

Perhaps you'll think before you say that God is dead and gone Open your eyes, just realize that he's the one The only one who can save you now from all this sin and hate Or will you still jeer at all you hear? Yes! I think it's too late.

I don't recall that song but remember the song title. Is it from a movie?

So...does it bother you that Ozzy and Black Sabbath (by their very band name) routinely mock the Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ in their music, by appearance? They don't even hide it.

You mean this founder of Black Sabbath Tony Iommi. You're an idiot.

Believe what you want. Ignore what you want. You have free will.

I don't believe people who don't know what they are talking about. That would be you.

And you didn't show me that Jesus is Saviour site. I knew about that for over a decade.

I recall something about a splinter and an eye.

Believe what you want. Ignore what you want. You have free will.

Who is the one ignoring. You are. Here is another founding member.

In a brand new interview with The Weeklings, BLACK SABBATH bassist Geezer Butler was asked if he got any backlash over SABBATH singing a message of repentance and God being the only way to love on the "Master Of Reality" album.

"No," he responded. "People always like to find the 'evil' in the music, so they'd quote the 'pope on a rope' part out of context, as usual. People like to find negative in everything. We weren't interested in writing songs about the 'nice' things in the world; everyone else was writing about that. We wanted to inject some reality into music. I think if we'd been called WHITE SUNDAY we'd have had a totally different reaction.

Butler also talked about his thought process behind writing the lyrics to the SABBATH song "After Forever", which some historians have called the first real Christian rock song.

"A lot of it was because of the situation in Northern Ireland at the time," he explained. "There were a lot of religious troubles between the Protestants against the Catholics.

I'll have to listen to them again, now knowing a bit more of the background of MTAF. My feelings on them certainly won't change but I could better quantify my impression.

Your feelings or ear or impression could certainly change now that your senses are 40 years older. You focus on different things for some reason (maybe its me.)

I can't tell you how many songs I've taken a different listen to and appreciate far more now then then. (Not to mention the volume of good songs and music that fell between the cracks, never even heard. Wasn't it almost impossible to hear everything back in the late 60s, 70s-80s?)

For 41 years, I'd dismissed Boston's 'Feelin Satisfied' (second album, Side B track)...until I heard a cover band do it and heard the rest of song beyond the first over-used opening riffs. Love it. Took 41 years to appreciate it.

I read somewhere the conundrum he was in, having made great rock music songs in his basement but with no ability to put on a concert and no real bandmates. In that light, the backside description on the LP cover on that debut album is an interesting spin, so to speak, as it's a pitch to ignore the band history and "listen to the album".

Read the same. Ain't that something? Could be why once Scholtz made it with that smash first effort, he got a bit greedy. The "Band" afterall (aside from Brad Delp) was only image and for live shows on the road.

Good observation about that back side and what was basically a PR notation.

With the release of their first album, the band’s audience began to grow rapidly. Terrence became known as Geezer while the rest of the band became known for their ‘dark’ music. One night, Ozzy and the band were approached by a self-proclaimed witch and were asked to play at a satanic ceremony. The band declined the offer. Feeling deprived at this, the witch cast a spell on the band. Being paranoid, Ozzy asked his dad to make aluminum crosses for each member of the band to wear as protection. Bill Ward said that he is the only member who still has the original cross. The cross Ozzy wears now is made of 14 carat gold.

These guys can't cover up this mess with "This is the troof, those "satanist" stories are lies and just crazy BS!" stories.

And most certainly, neither can Ozzy hide the truth. Dude, the guy is a satanist and occultist, into magic and spell. Look at the symbols and upside down crosses; The Baphomet horns.

He loved Satanist Alistair Crowley so much, he devoted an entire song to him. To be so in denial and delusional about the truth is insane.

I always liked you but thought you were kind of slow.

Now you're just a judgmental prick who isn't to bright.

Flattard.

The name of Black Sabbath's Best-Of compilation could have been anything, but they chose THAT??

Come on, man.

I can't tell you how many songs I've taken a different listen to and appreciate far more now then then. (Not to mention the volume of good songs and music that fell between the cracks, never even heard. Wasn't it almost impossible to hear everything back in the late 60s, 70s-80s?)

No, one thing I've noticed about myself is that my opinion of a particular song never changes. Songs I liked and disliked as a teen I still like and dislike today. I like to think it speaks well about my musical maturity as a teen.

I'm a big fan now of epic music which didn't exist back then, except perhaps as a foreshadowing in the music of Mason William's "Classical Gas", or Ennio Morricone's famous tune from The Good, the Bad and the Ugly.

If you want a real ride, check this out. Two Steps from Hell. I've mentioned Thomas Bergerson to you before. Here's "Victory". Just know that if it's the first time you've heard it and you don't have your stereo totally cranked, it's a crime against humanity. Just so you know.

Can't talk about GB&U music without this brilliant piece as well by Ennio Morricone: "Ecstasy of Gold":

Boston: promotes fornication, wild immoral parties, drug abuse, indifference, smoking pot,

So, basically not any different than any other rock band?

...lead singer commit suicide in March 2007...

So? How is that the band's fault?

Believe what you want. Ignore what you want. You have free will.

Butler also talked about his thought process behind writing the lyrics to the SABBATH song "After Forever", which some historians have called the first real Christian rock song.

Not even close.

I'm a big fan now of epic music which didn't exist back then, except perhaps as a foreshadowing in the music of Mason William's "Classical Gas",

I always liked that song.

Boston: promotes fornication, wild immoral parties, drug abuse, indifference, smoking pot, So, basically not any different than any other rock band?

...lead singer commit suicide in March 2007...

So? How is that the band's fault?

I just used the same source liberator used to condemn Oozy. Showing him to be a hypocrite.

I just used the same source liberator used to condemn Oozy. Showing him to be a hypocrite.

So...that source is wrong about Ozzy but right about Boston?

I don't think Liberator is the hypocrite here.

I don't think Liberator is the hypocrite here.

Well you're dumb than.

I don't think Liberator is the hypocrite here.

Well you're dumb than.

Stone, you really need to stop antagonizing allies like Liberator and me.

Just let it go - pretty much every rock band is un-Christian when you actually look.

Let's not go to a holy war over this.

Stone, you really need to stop antagonizing allies like Liberator and me.

Just let it go - pretty much every rock band is un-Christian when you actually look.

Let's not go to a holy war over this.

I posted my opinion about Boston. I like them I don't love them.

Liberators source is what I posted later.

Liberator isn't my ally. He is a kook who thinks the earth is flat.

He isn't my enemy either.

Liberator isn't my ally. He is a kook who thinks the earth is flat.

So what? I'm a kook for not believing the official 9/11 story and believing Oswald didn't act alone.

I think David Icke is correct on a number of things.

You're a "kook" too.

As far as the flat earth theory - again, so what? Who cares?

Could be why once Scholtz made it with that smash first effort, he got a bit greedy. The "Band" afterall (aside from Brad Delp) was only image and for live shows on the road.

I'd bet that extreme perfectionists wouldn't have the patience to put up with real, human band members.

I'm a big fan now of epic music which didn't exist back then, except perhaps as a foreshadowing in the music of Mason William's "Classical Gas", or Ennio Morricone's famous tune from The Good, the Bad and the Ugly.

See? Your ear IS changing! (Or maybe how you process music. It's happened to me as well. Normal stuff.

The 'Victory' epic music is strongly reminiscent of 'The Good, Bad and Ugly'. Love that stuff.

Just know that if it's the first time you've heard it and you don't have your stereo totally cranked, it's a crime against humanity. Just so you know.

HA! yeah, I kinda cranked it :-)

Bravo!

Man, one of THE best guitarists ever.

(really nice rendition of Classical Gas, featuring Glen)

Miklos Rozsa is another of the epic flim score composers.

He composed quite a few of the Bible Movie epics and scores of the 1950s and early 1960s (Ben-Hur, King of Kings, El Cid, Quo Vadis)

Here is the London Symphony Orchestra doing an awesome rendition of Rozsa's Ben-Hur:

"He loved Satanist Alistair Crowley...

As did Jimmy Page, LedZep guitarist extraordinaire and the keystone to my favorite band of all time. Love the talent, not the bizarre anti-religion personal journeys...MUD

Of course, 'Turn Turn Turn' uses Ecclesiastes for its lyrics Id always associated 'Jesus Is Just Alright' with the Doobie Bros version.

Just a few others:

'Get Together' (The Youngbloods)

'Spirit in the Sky' (Norman Greenbaum)

'Put Your Hand In The Hand' (Ocean)

Hard to find live version:

Above is the late Dan Peek's ('America') Christian version of 'Lonely People'. He quit America over his beliefs.

Read Dan Peek's book/bio. Inspirational account and story of his faith.

Regads, Mr. Yeltsin, and BSOT**!!

**Be Safe Out There

Regards...MUD

("He loved Satanist Alistair Crowley...)

As did Jimmy Page, LedZep guitarist extraordinaire and the keystone to my favorite band of all time. Love the talent, not the bizarre anti-religion personal journeys...

You're absolutely spot on, Mud.

Page even bought Alistair Crowley's castle/house in England as his own.

Yup, Page and Zep were/are also Satanists. Jimmy Page has even described his creation process and inspiration as being a shared process. (read into the "fine print")

Talented, yes. On loan from WHOM? ;-) I can still enjoy some of Zep's work but not all of it for obvious reasons.

Many talented bands unfortunately have declared allegiance to their "god"; (and it ain't OURS.) Like...The Beatles....Stones...yes, quite a few sing homages to the Devil himself (Stones, Van Halen, AC/DC, etal etal...)

I'd bet that extreme perfectionists wouldn't have the patience to put up with real, human band members.

Makes perfect sense.

Probably annoyed Scholtz to no end. And...maybe even himself.