UK Election: Exit Poll Suggests Historic Tory Majority, Hard-Left Labour Collapse
By Oliver JJ Lane
Breitbart
12 Dec 2019
A poll of voters taken during election day has suggested the centre-right, Brexit-promising Conservative party of Boris Johnson has achieved a historic victory over Jeremy Corbyns increasingly hard-left Labour party.
The exit poll puts the Conservatives on 368 seats and Labour on 191, with the United Kingdom looking forward to an evening and morning of results confirming or correcting the prediction as given.
The projected figure was broadcast by the British state media company and others at 2200 GMT as polling stations closed and, if correct, would put present Prime Minister Boris Johnson in an extremely strong position to deliver on his manifesto promises of Brexit, as well as domestic and foreign policy.
A majority of 368, if the exit poll is correct, is obviously nothing like any election result the United Kingdom has seen in the past decade. The last time any UK party exceeded that number was the then left-centrist Labour party in its 1997 landslide under europhile globalist Tony Blair, who won 418 seats.
The last Tory win of such a magnitude was Margaret Thatcher in 1983, when she won 397 seats, a majority of 144 seats.
#1: nolu chan To: All (#0)
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nolu chan posted on 2019-12-13 08:50:53 Reply Private Reply
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Hank Rearden posted on 2019-12-13 12:23:11 Reply Private Reply
#3: nolu chan To: Hank Rearden (#2)
Yes, the socialist Democrats know what awaits them.
nolu chan posted on 2019-12-13 12:33:41 Reply Private Reply
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Mudboy Slim posted on 2019-12-13 16:35:43 Reply Private Reply
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paraclete posted on 2019-12-13 16:56:31 Reply Private Reply
#6: nolu chan To: paraclete (#5)
I have my doubts that Scotland will opt to split from the UK and join the EU. It may be interesting to monitor developments along the Ireland/Northern Ireland border. The EU wanted a hard border if BREXIT. And who is going to implement that? I doubt there is any interest in Northern Ireland or the Republic for that.
A few more nations may follow the UK's lead.
nolu chan posted on 2019-12-13 17:24:21 Reply Private Reply
#7: paraclete To: nolu chan (#6)
Yes there is unrest, some don't want to kautow to Merkel's demand they should pay for her reckless decision making and there are cracks in France where the people are in revolt over socialist crap.
I cannot see how Scotland could benefit from withdrawl from Britain, there would be a hard border, and Scotland would have to find its own revenues to sustain the welfare system. It is just not realistic. there will eventually have to be a hard border in Northern Ireland or perhaps they will succeed too, would be an ideal result for Britain, getting rid of two troublesome neighbours
paraclete posted on 2019-12-13 18:17:57 Reply Private Reply
#8: nolu chan To: paraclete (#7)
Add Italy, Greece and those overflowing with immigrants due to the EU policy. Forty or so years ago, a London joke was how does one tell who are the Irish bus drivers? They are the ones with a shamrock in their turban.
There would only be a hard border if Scotland and England make it so. See Northern Ireland, below.
When I was there, in the far North, there was anti-English sentiment expressed by getting the British national anthem off the telly when it played every night, or by their singing of Flower of Scotland. They even stopped playing the annual England-Scotland football match because of riots.
One way Scotland might benefit is by not having Britain dump its nuclear waste in Scotland. As Scottish MP's argued, if it is so safe, bury it under the House of Commons.
Northern Ireland and the Republic are staunchly opposed to a hard border. Before there was an EU, there was no hard border, even though it was then an international border, at least according to Northern Ireland. Before the Good Friday agreement, the Republic continued to claim all thirty-two counties, while recognizing they were unable to govern the six occupied counties. A person born in Northern Ireland was eligible for an Irish passport from the Republic. For the agreement, the Republic eliminated their claim of thirty-two county sovereignty from their constitution.
Northern Ireland is not part of Great Britain and never has been. The country is the United Kingdom, which is the short form of the more formal United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The term British is used kind of indiscriminately as no term has ever caught on for the UK. There is no such term as UKer.
Implementing a hard border would likely revive the IRA, or some derivitive group, to attack the border, or those who implement it. If the Republic does not implement a hard border, who is going to do it? The EU? Or would the EU expel the Republic? If that is the key to leaving the EU, others might try it.
Evidently, nobody has come up with a solution acceptable to all parties.
nolu chan posted on 2019-12-14 12:39:35 Reply Private Reply
#9: paraclete To: nolu chan (#6)
I think Northern Ireland should reunify with Eire, hard luck for the religious nutcases. Alternatively, they could Join breakaway Scotland, and create their Hibernian paradise as it was centuries ago
paraclete posted on 2019-12-15 16:04:54 Reply Private Reply
#10: nolu chan To: paraclete (#9)
The UK has never cared about having a hard border with the Republic of Ireland, why should it care about Scotland?
The EU would care. The EU cares about Northern Ireland, but probably not enough to do anything about it.
The Catholics/Republicans/Anti-Unionists are a decided minority in Northern Ireland to the Protestants/Unionists. A referendum would result in a call to Remain in the UK in all liklihood. Northern Ireland is not likely to leave the UK any time soon.
The divide is really political about Union and Anti-Union, not religion or how to end the Lord's prayer.
I can't picture Northern Ireland leaving the UK and joining up with Scotland. The centuries old "troubles" in Northern Ireland goes back to the Irish Catholics, when they were almost all Catholic, and the Scots Presbyterians who were sent in to rule over them.
nolu chan posted on 2019-12-15 18:09:41 Reply Private Reply
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paraclete posted on 2019-12-16 01:32:18 Reply Private Reply
#12: nolu chan To: paraclete (#11)
But the Battle of the Bogside was not fought centuries ago. That occurred in August 1969. It's occurrence was sparked by the annual march of the Apprentice Boys, celebrating events of 1688. Their path deliberately passed through the Protestant Unionist Bogside area of Derry. It was similar to the events of July in Dungiven, but in the city of Derry on a larger scale. The resulting riot left 10 dead and 151 wounded by gunfire. British soldiers were sent in temporarily to restore order. That temporary restoration of order lasted 38 years. In August of 1971, internment was officially declared, meaning the policy of imprisoning suspected members of the IRA or other similar groups, without trial, for indefinite detention.
Come the day of the Apprentices, the Union Jacks were flying up and down the Unionist neighborhood streets, with 24-hour guards. The curbs were painted in patriotic colors. The Unionists/Prods were practically more British than the British themselves.
The Unionists are not going anywhere. The probability of the Unionist majority in Northern Ireland voting for independence from the UK must be near zero. As part of the UK, they are safe from the Republic of Ireland.
The Irish sought and obtained independence because they found the English to be a troublesome lot. Many Scots find the English to be a troublesome lot.
Scotland has its own parliament, seperate from that of the UK, and its own legal system. It functions autonomously on domestic issues.
Northern Ireland had a form of devolved government from 1922 until 1972, when direct rule was resumed. Since 1998, Northern Ireland semi-sort of officially has a devolved government headed by an Executive Committee, pursuant to the Good Friday Agreement. It dissolved in fussing and feuding in January 2017 and the resignation of the First Deputy Minister, and the Executive Committee has not sat since.
nolu chan posted on 2019-12-16 12:38:05 Reply Private Reply
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paraclete posted on 2019-12-17 19:07:30 Reply Private Reply
#14: nolu chan To: paraclete (#13)
England invaded Scotland and Ireland and overstayed their welcome. Scotland or Northern Ireland are wonderful places to stay and live for a while.
nolu chan posted on 2019-12-18 18:56:23 Reply Private Reply
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paraclete posted on 2019-12-18 18:59:42 Reply Private Reply
#16: nolu chan To: paraclete (#15)
I suspect I was just a tad further north than you were, north of the highlands, nowhere near England. I did get to visit Dunoon and Macrahanish.
nolu chan posted on 2019-12-18 19:33:06 Reply Private Reply
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paraclete posted on 2019-12-18 20:08:09 Reply Private Reply
#18: nolu chan To: paraclete (#17)
I was in Thurso, up near John O'Groats, near the northern tip of Great Britain. No gate and the grass was mowed by the farmer's sheep.
nolu chan posted on 2019-12-18 23:55:23 Reply Private Reply
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paraclete posted on 2019-12-19 07:48:53 Reply Private Reply