MURRAY, Utah A Utah woman wants to see change after an antiquated ordinance led her to receive misdemeanor charges for allowing her cat to lie on their front lawn.
When Kate Anderson was first approached by animal control, she thought something terrible had happened to their cat. Then, the officer gave her a citation, carrying the weight of two misdemeanor charges, for letting her cat lie on their own lawn.
Milo, come here! Anderson said as she made kissy noises to her cat while it laid on their front lawn.
In the Anderson household, Milo is treated like family.
Hes got a cat door, so he just comes and goes and is a cat, Anderson said.
However, they never expected their furry feline would be the reason they were slapped with misdemeanor charges.
There he is, back at the scene of the crime, Anderson laughed as her cat came near her and laid on the lawn.
On Monday, Kate said Milo had let himself outside and was on their front lawn someone then took a picture of Milo and reported it.
I just got a ticket for my cat being outside, in my yard, Anderson said in disbelief.
An animal control employee received the report and made a house call to Kates Murray home. They then wrote her a citation.
This is a cat who is neutered and micro-chipped and vaccinated, and is not a menace to society, Anderson said.
Kate lifted up the ordinance and started to explain what it said, Thats telling me I have to call for my court date for my misdemeanors of having my cat outside.
Two charges were listed on the citation, both Class B misdemeanors. The first for having an animal at large, the second for not having an animal license attached.
Like a fugitive. Like robbed a bank, she said after reading the phrase at large out loud.
Based on the Murray city ordinance, which was enacted in 1963, it is illegal for any animal, house cats included, to run at large.
The ordinance reads in part:
It is unlawful for the owner or person having charge, care, custody or control of any animal to allow such animal at any time to run at large. The owner or person charged with responsibility of an animal found running loose shall be strictly liable for a violation of this section and for any injury to a person or another animal, or property damage caused by such animal running at large, regardless of the precautions taken to prevent the escape of the animal and regardless of whether the owner or person charged with responsibility knows that the animal is running at large."
Murray City goes on to define at large as anytime an animal is not on a leash, confined to a vehicle or secured in the yard. Even if the animal is on the owners property, Murray City defines them as at large unless there is adequate protection to ensure others safety, there also must be a warning given, to let individuals know the animal is there.
I dont think most people think it is illegal to let your cat outside under any circumstance, Anderson said.
It sounded like the ordinance was kept vague for a reason so if there are strange circumstances, they can do something about that, but this just feels like animal control being out of control, Anderson said.
The City Attorney for Murray, G.L. Critchfield, told FOX 13 that while Milo being on the lawn was technically a violation, they have filed a motion to dismiss the charges, considering how minor the violation is.
While prosecutors did tell Kate, that they would not be following through with the charges, she said she does not know what to do considering her cat is an indoor/outdoor animal.
Its definitely antiquated, I think if anything, there needs to be some kind of addition or amendment to the ordinance excluding felines, Anderson said.
Critchfield said they do not foresee any amendments being made to the ordinance as it stands, to allow a broad coverage of any animals they encounter.
Poster Comment:
At least the doggie cop didn't "fear for his life" and shoot the kitty.
On Monday, Kate said Milo had let himself outside and was on their front lawn someone then took a picture of Milo and reported it.
What kind of asshole does that? I can imagine Gatlin, the self appointed Gladys Kravitzu in his gated community maybe.
#6: Gatlin To: Deckard (#0)
It is not completely unsurprising to me that you constantly think about me and find that you use fantasizing as a means of giving yourself an illusion transference of greatness while you project yourself as being me in order to satisfy the wonderfully great emotional experience that you crave, albeit through a mere illusion.
You have indeed mentioned before that you often fantasize about me. But I fear that you may now do it more often that you realize. And it could be that your fantasizes about me have gone so far that that they have now become a natural part of your human psyche thereby letting them totally eclipse your ability to engage in reality.
It is because of this that I am here now to tell you that you letting me get control of your mind can actually become a dire problem with some pretty serious side-effects. You need to get over your projections and concentrate of your personal development. For comprehensive research has found that those who have the healthiest personalities rank low in neuroticism, high in openness to new experiences, and low in their tendency to fantasize are the individuals who best succeed in life.
Your over-reliance on abductive reasoning and the complete sacrifice of more powerful logical tools, make your irrelevant conclusions suspect at very best. Without context and association to actuality the looks are always deceiving.
We today find ourselves living in a sarcastic society where the use of sarcasm is almost everywhere. Sarcasm can be an underhand compliment, a snarky retort, or a curt jibe. People often use sarcasm to vent their unhappiness. I fear the latter reflects your situtiaon.
Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-03 00:46:01 Reply Private Reply
#7: Gatlin To: Deckard (#5)
For when you buy in you do so knowing full well that you are expected to follow the rules like everyone else and not just the rules you like and want to follow.
If a homeowner does not like some resident violating the conditions set forth in HOA community regulations and rules, the homeowner has the right to require the HOA to enforce the community regulations and rules or to commence a legal action against an HOA that refuses to take enforcement action, remove a member, or members, of the board of the directors of the HOA, or amend the terms of the governing documents.
Unfortunately, each of these options is typically time consuming, expensive, and difficult. So there are some who simply prefer to bitch on a chit-chat forum about having to follow regulations and rules they agreed subscribed to in the first place.
Some people have a viewpoint that traditional values and beliefs are unfounded and that their existence is senseless and useless while their way to get status among other complainers is to be the most negative and that is what you were doing here, Decard - Right?
Things never go good for you as evidenced by the fact that you are constantly complaining about one thing or another.
Sad - Ever si sad ...
Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-03 01:30:55 Reply Private Reply
#8: Gatlin To: Deckard (#0)
Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-03 01:34:23 Reply Private Reply
#9: Gatlin To: Deckard (#0)
This was the second citation issued against her and that was the weight of two misdemeanor charges.
Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-03 01:44:19 Reply Private Reply
#10: Gatlin To: Deckard (#0)
So?
In the Anderson household do they except family to be treated with impunity and be exempted from punishment and have the freedom from injurious consequences for their actions when they violate laws?
Judging from this article, that appears to be the case
Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-03 01:49:10 Reply Private Reply
#11: Gatlin To: Deckard (#0)
This means what?
Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-03 01:51:39 Reply Private Reply
#12: Gatlin To: Deckard (#0)
Ignorantia juris non excusat is the age old legal principle holding that a person who is unaware of a law may not escape liability for violating that law merely because one was unaware of its content.
Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-03 01:55:08 Reply Private Reply
#13: Gatlin To: Deckard (#0)
She expressed happiness at violating the law and paying the fines.
So, whats the problem here?
Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-03 01:58:41 Reply Private Reply
#14: Gatlin To: Deckard (#0)
Uh, Anderson you are obviously as big a dumb shit as Deckard is.For the law does not exempt a cat that is neutered and micro-chipped and vaccinated. Neither does a cat have to be declared not a menace to society for you to be exempt from the law.
Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-03 02:04:44 Reply Private Reply
#15: Gatlin To: Deckard (#0)
Surprise SurpriseSalute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-03 02:07:06 Reply Private Reply
#16: Gatlin To: Deckard (#0)
One article stated that this was the second citation she had received.This article nos state there were two charges on the same citation.
Not that will result in any difference in the fine she will pay I suppose.
Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-03 02:09:36 Reply Private Reply
#17: Gatlin To: Deckard (#0)
Drama Queen
She is stealing your thunder Deckard.
Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-03 02:11:51 Reply Private Reply
#18: Gatlin To: Deckard (#0)
No Shit !!!
Then what is the reason for this article
Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-03 02:14:08 Reply Private Reply
#19: Gatlin To: Deckard (#0)
No need to post that here.
Tattoo it in her brain.
Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-03 02:18:14 Reply Private Reply
#20: Gatlin To: Deckard (#0)
Nah, it sounds more all the time that this woman was a classmate of yours, Deckard, since her limited speed of though processing and inability to sequence rational ideas appear to be the same as yours.
Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-03 02:25:50 Reply Private Reply
#21: Gatlin To: Deckard (#0)
OMG
Glory be
Cue the song:
Compassion from a law enforcement official.
Did you ever EVER think you would live to see that day?
Gpd Bless America
Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-03 02:33:58 Reply Private Reply
#22: Gatlin To: Deckard (#0)
That was fun, Deckard.
I look forward to doing this again sometime
Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-03 02:37:13 Reply Private Reply
#23: A K A Stone To: Gatlin (#6)
Delusional.
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-03 07:58:30 Reply Private Reply
#24: GrandIsland To: WWG1WWA (#4)
I have a cat.... and it NEVER is allowed outside, thats how they shit in other peoples back yards, get in neighborhood trash and get FLATTENED by cars... and as of the last 20 years or so, many states, after being pressured by PETA-like assholes (thats anyone that doesnt realize that a dog and cat are animals, BELOW us humans) to make it mandatory for a motor vehicle operator to STOP and report when you hit a fucking cat.
Well... if you feel you need a cat, then keep the kritter in your house... or are you one of those special libertarian assholes that feel your freedoms are more important than mine?
GrandIsland posted on 2019-10-03 08:17:27 Reply Private Reply
#25: A K A Stone To: GrandIsland (#24)
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-03 08:25:00 Reply Private Reply
#26: Gatlin To: A K A Stone (#23)
Yes, I definitely agree that he is delusional . If not delusional, then maybe psychotic.
What better explanation can be given to the fact that he imagines seeing me while his thinking about me in an article about a cat he posted Where he stated:
See
I take this opportunity to say: A bright and cheery Good Morning to you, Sir.
Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-03 08:30:33 Reply Private Reply
#27: A K A Stone To: Deckard (#0)
An asshole who needs to be dealt with.
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-03 08:34:44 Reply Private Reply
#28: A K A Stone To: Gatlin (#26)
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-03 08:35:33 Reply Private Reply
#29: Gatlin To: A K A Stone, GrandIsland (#25)
Why? So that they can continue eat up all of the birds While I dont know about the bees?
Any intelligent person should be able to recognize that this is an unnatural situation and it is taking a tremendous toll on the native wildlife in our country.While your outdoor cats are definitely a human-caused problem, it appears you dont give a shit about finding ways to address it when you take the approach of just letting cats run wild and continue to kill 1.34 billion birds and 6.322.3 billion mammals each year.
Stone, you are delusional
Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-03 08:53:31 Reply Private Reply
#30: Gatlin To: A K A Stone (#28)
That probably is a better adjective to use in describing Deckard.Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-03 08:55:20 Reply Private Reply
#31: Gatlin To: A K A Stone (#27)
You pass judgments and state opinions on these stories when you only read what one person is reporting and never know the story behind the story.
Who knows
Who knowsI dont know the story behind the story posted here.
But I do know that there usually more to the stories than we are ever told here in these wildly extreme examples of cop-hating and anti-government articles posted on LF by Deckard.
Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-03 09:08:31 Reply Private Reply
#32: Deckard To: Gatlin (#6)
Yet the next fifteen posts are made by you, directly to me, each and every one them a long winded screed about (predictably) how "rules are rules" and (predictably) filled with personal attacks and insults to: Deckard.
Think about that.
Deckard posted on 2019-10-03 09:26:11 Reply Private Reply
#33: Deckard To: A K A Stone, Tooconservative, Liberator, Stoner (#27)
How about her calling the cops on her neighbor because her grass is an inch too high - boy-howdee! I tell you what. Gatlin would be all over that one in a heartbeat.
It's a cat on a woman's own PRIVATE PROPERTY. Gatin responded predictably - quite a personally revealing insight into the philosophy and mindset of the poster known as "Gatlin.
I noticed Gatlin doing a little channeling of other infamous posters.
Some misterwhite rhetoric in posts 8 and 10, doing an impression of nolu spam in post 12. Gomer Pyle (huh?) at #15, a couple more of whitey...
The rest was typical Gatlin bilge.
Deckard posted on 2019-10-03 10:07:01 Reply Private Reply
#34: Stoner To: Deckard (#33)
LOL !!
Stoner posted on 2019-10-03 10:38:47 Reply Private Reply
#35: Tooconservative To: Deckard (#33)
I'd call the SWAT team just for those kissy noises. LOL
Tooconservative posted on 2019-10-03 11:47:44 Reply Private Reply
#36: WWG1WWA To: GrandIsland (#24)
We should have rights that should not be infringed. We pay the mortgage, we own the land, we contribute to the upkeep of our village. Certain sensable rules are one thing, overstepping personal rights are another.
One man complained about common property bushes. A few buds fell off over his wall. literally, a few. They lined the blvds and streets. That resulted in them cutting down every tree and bush. We now have ugly large boulders instead of nice green beauty to look at along our streets. Talk about devaluing a property! It's now ugly, an eyesore.
I'm sorry, but one complaint should not have the right to penalize the rest of us. Put such up for a vote. Everyone was super p*zzed off about it. It ruined the complex. Took away pleasant visages all because of a one man who was a renter, not a property owner.
I constantly pick up debris that the wind blows around. Pine needles when the pines are 100s of feet from my property. Stange, non-indiginous weeds that pop up. It's just part of living among people. I pull them up and clean up the needles. No big deal.
I won't have a cat that has to live it's entire life inside. Animals have needs also. They belong outdoors as much as humans do. It's cruel to keep an animal from normal habitats.
WWG1WWA posted on 2019-10-03 13:03:46 Reply Private Reply
#37: GrandIsland To: A K A Stone (#25)
If you feel you need a cat, as a pet... and your pet enters my yard, expect me to treat it like I do birds and bees on my property. I kill them.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-10-03 17:33:17 Reply Private Reply
#38: GrandIsland To: WWG1WWA (#36)
Then dont buy a fucking house, with one attached.
Im not a fan either, but I understand the concept of them. So, since I possess the ability to AVOID getting in one, by having the fucking CHOICE not to get in one, then I dont have the need to fucking state, Id have a cat, but my neighbors wont allow my cat to shit in their fucking planters. How rude of them.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-10-03 17:43:22 Reply Private Reply
#39: Gatlin To: GrandIsland (#38)
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-03 18:56:49 Reply Private Reply
#40: A K A Stone To: GrandIsland (#37)
What a weird twisted thing for a "law enforcement" officer to say. You would be video taped arrested and jailed. Then doxxed. Then i'd kick your ass.
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-03 19:08:03 Reply Private Reply
#41: A K A Stone To: GrandIsland (#37)
How often to you engage in this criminal behavior?
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-03 19:13:09 Reply Private Reply
#42: GrandIsland To: A K A Stone (#41)
Excellent question. If you are my neighbor, and you allow your cat to trespass on my property, and killing your cat is illegal where we live, then I guess Im a fucking criminal. The real question is this.... your little pet wont ever be found. There will be no witnesses or video. So, how often do you engage in endangering your kittys life, behavior?
Not smart to gamble with your poor puddy-tats life... if you love it.
I NULLIFY your stupid cat protection law... just like you nullify laws you dont like.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-10-03 19:57:47 Reply Private Reply
#43: GrandIsland To: A K A Stone (#40)
1) Perfectly legal to leave an antifreeze soaked fish, in my lawn. Video tape it. Without the fish, you can just guess how your putty was poisoned.
2) You need probable cause... good luck finding ANYONE that will autopsy a cat. lol
3) Doxxed? What are you a fucking snowflake? You speak like Greta Thunberg. You plan on allowing your cat to trespass, just so you can tape me hurting it, so you can dox me? What a liberal asshole thing to do.
4) In your fucking dreams. Youre an over sensitized putty-tat lover... and a UFC champion? Ha.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-10-03 20:19:10 Reply Private Reply
#44: Tooconservative To: A K A Stone (#41)
Tooconservative posted on 2019-10-04 03:37:57 Reply Private Reply
#45: Deckard To: GrandIsland (#43)
Well lookie here - we got us one of them real-life internet tough-guys. (insert golf clap here.)
You know, I read some studies that many cops abused animals in their yout and that many cops still continue that abhorrent practice into adulthood (many cops never actually become adults but I digress.)
Abusing animals is another thing they have in common with many serial killers.
Any first hand experience there Son of Sam?
...and a UFC champion?
UFC: gayest sport ever, favorite of keyboard commandos, Internet tough guys and Alonzo Harris wannabes.
Deckard posted on 2019-10-04 04:09:00 Reply Private Reply
#46: Gatlin To: Deckard (#45)
Post the links to the studies you said that you readI would also like to read them.
Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-04 06:08:06 Reply Private Reply
#47: Gatlin To: Deckard (#45)
Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-04 06:10:50 Reply Private Reply
#48: A K A Stone To: GrandIsland (#42)
Why do you have a place you hide bodies?
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-04 06:32:54 Reply Private Reply
#49: A K A Stone To: Gatlin (#47)
https://www.aetv.com/real-crime/first-they-tortured-animals-then-they- turned-to-humans
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/domestic-violence-animal- cruelty-abuse-neglect-murder-children-dogs-a9018071.html
This one is from the cops so you better look at it. https://cops.usdoj.gov/html/dispatch/04-2019/animal_cruelty.html https://ndaa.org/wp-content/uploads/The-Link-Monograph-2014-3.pdf
Do you like killing peoples pets like Grandisland does?
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-04 06:38:10 Reply Private Reply
#50: GrandIsland To: Deckard (#45)
What, are you Joe Pesci? lol
GrandIsland posted on 2019-10-04 06:54:28 Reply Private Reply
#51: A K A Stone To: GrandIsland (#42)
So you should receive 10 times the sentence since it would have been on purpose.
Or should you spend no time since you have a hiding place to dispose of dead bodies? Are you special and shouldn't get any punishment for crimes you would commit?
So you admit that you commit crimes. Do you think someone who goes around killing peoples pets should be a law enforcement officer or work in prisons?
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-04 06:55:53 Reply Private Reply
#52: A K A Stone To: GrandIsland (#50)
No he was pointing out the fact that serial killers like to do things like leave fish out with antifreeze in it.
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-04 07:03:12 Reply Private Reply
#53: GrandIsland To: A K A Stone (#48)
Stone, its important that you KNOW, that your freedoms END, when your FREEDOMS INFRINGE UPON MY FREEDOMS. So, you have the LIBERALterian freedoms to own a filthy cat. I have the FREEDOM to not have cat shit on my property... if you allow your FREEDOM to enter my property AND it infringes upon my freedoms, your freedom cat is in DANGER.
Doesnt have anything to do with serial killers, being a tough guy... or even being a bad cop that needs doxxed. It has everything to do with not infringing upon the freedoms of YOUR FUCKING PEERS.
Dont be a Dicktard.... where only YOUR freedom is important because you are the most important person you know.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-10-04 07:06:06 Reply Private Reply
#54: GrandIsland To: A K A Stone (#52)
Id like you to site an example, but for shits & giggles, Ill grant you your Adam Schiff like presumptive bias allegations. If a serial killer kills cats, its because he enjoys or gets an emotional benefit from killing cats. Ill kill your cat, if it trespasses on my property, TO GET RELIEF FROM YOUR CAT VICTIMIZING ME. If you werent a Paultard, you might understand this concept.
Now, like the liberals, you and Dicktard can carry on with your PRESUMPTIVE BIAS, continual character assassinations if anyone that has ever posted here (or LP), that doesnt fall in line with what you can tolerate.
You have been watching what the evil left has been doing to Trump, havent you? Youve focused on HOW theyve been deceiving the SHEEP, with their tactics? ARE YOU FUCKING SMART ENOUGH TO LOOK BACK AT ALL THE PAULTARD POSTS AND REALIZE THAT YOUR PAULTARDS HAVE BEEN DOING THE SAME SHIT HERE? And youve allowed it. I should start calling you CNN for hosting such douchebaggary.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-10-04 07:15:08 Reply Private Reply
#55: GrandIsland To: A K A Stone (#51)
Only in your Paultard self important mind, would you think I have to allow your cat to shit on my property... without recourse. Typical drug loving Paultard. Youre the most important person you know... but your fucking cat will know better. lol
GrandIsland posted on 2019-10-04 07:17:13 Reply Private Reply