MURRAY, Utah A Utah woman wants to see change after an antiquated ordinance led her to receive misdemeanor charges for allowing her cat to lie on their front lawn.
When Kate Anderson was first approached by animal control, she thought something terrible had happened to their cat. Then, the officer gave her a citation, carrying the weight of two misdemeanor charges, for letting her cat lie on their own lawn.
Milo, come here! Anderson said as she made kissy noises to her cat while it laid on their front lawn.
In the Anderson household, Milo is treated like family.
Hes got a cat door, so he just comes and goes and is a cat, Anderson said.
However, they never expected their furry feline would be the reason they were slapped with misdemeanor charges.
There he is, back at the scene of the crime, Anderson laughed as her cat came near her and laid on the lawn.
On Monday, Kate said Milo had let himself outside and was on their front lawn someone then took a picture of Milo and reported it.
I just got a ticket for my cat being outside, in my yard, Anderson said in disbelief.
An animal control employee received the report and made a house call to Kates Murray home. They then wrote her a citation.
This is a cat who is neutered and micro-chipped and vaccinated, and is not a menace to society, Anderson said.
Kate lifted up the ordinance and started to explain what it said, Thats telling me I have to call for my court date for my misdemeanors of having my cat outside.
Two charges were listed on the citation, both Class B misdemeanors. The first for having an animal at large, the second for not having an animal license attached.
Like a fugitive. Like robbed a bank, she said after reading the phrase at large out loud.
Based on the Murray city ordinance, which was enacted in 1963, it is illegal for any animal, house cats included, to run at large.
The ordinance reads in part:
It is unlawful for the owner or person having charge, care, custody or control of any animal to allow such animal at any time to run at large. The owner or person charged with responsibility of an animal found running loose shall be strictly liable for a violation of this section and for any injury to a person or another animal, or property damage caused by such animal running at large, regardless of the precautions taken to prevent the escape of the animal and regardless of whether the owner or person charged with responsibility knows that the animal is running at large."
Murray City goes on to define at large as anytime an animal is not on a leash, confined to a vehicle or secured in the yard. Even if the animal is on the owners property, Murray City defines them as at large unless there is adequate protection to ensure others safety, there also must be a warning given, to let individuals know the animal is there.
I dont think most people think it is illegal to let your cat outside under any circumstance, Anderson said.
It sounded like the ordinance was kept vague for a reason so if there are strange circumstances, they can do something about that, but this just feels like animal control being out of control, Anderson said.
The City Attorney for Murray, G.L. Critchfield, told FOX 13 that while Milo being on the lawn was technically a violation, they have filed a motion to dismiss the charges, considering how minor the violation is.
While prosecutors did tell Kate, that they would not be following through with the charges, she said she does not know what to do considering her cat is an indoor/outdoor animal.
Its definitely antiquated, I think if anything, there needs to be some kind of addition or amendment to the ordinance excluding felines, Anderson said.
Critchfield said they do not foresee any amendments being made to the ordinance as it stands, to allow a broad coverage of any animals they encounter.
Poster Comment:
At least the doggie cop didn't "fear for his life" and shoot the kitty.
On Monday, Kate said Milo had let himself outside and was on their front lawn someone then took a picture of Milo and reported it.
What kind of asshole does that? I can imagine Gatlin, the self appointed Gladys Kravitzu in his gated community maybe.
#86: Gatlin To: GrandIsland (#82)
An enjoyable morning.
Thanks for the laughs.
Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-04 08:10:53 Reply Private Reply
#87: A K A Stone To: GrandIsland (#82)
Just follow the law or go to jail and get beat up. Well you would get beat up in jail. Just like I would kick your ass if you illegally harmed my pet.
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-04 08:11:31 Reply Private Reply
#88: GrandIsland To: Gatlin (#86)
Stone might remove it. If he does, start calling him DICK-Tater and DICK-tard.
Two DICKS in a pod.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-10-04 08:12:50 Reply Private Reply
#89: A K A Stone To: GrandIsland (#85)
Cats are legally allowed to roam. If they cause damage to your car you can sue in court. If you want them off your property you can call animal control and they will remove them. If you go kooky and kill someones pet you will go to jail and maybe have your asshole enlarged. Then when you get out I will kick your ass. Then I will tell you not to tell anyone or I will kick it again. :). I'll let you live but you will be bruised up.
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-04 08:14:27 Reply Private Reply
#90: GrandIsland To: A K A Stone (#87)
Dont make your situation worse, Paultard... or your doggie will be sleeping with your kitty.... and the guys at hunting camp will have a cornucopia of slim-Jims to eat in their tree stands... killing the roaming animals.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-10-04 08:16:08 Reply Private Reply
#91: Gatlin To: A K A Stone (#84)
Answer THIS question?Exactly which question of the 4 questions is it that you want me to answer?
Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-04 08:16:36 Reply Private Reply
#92: A K A Stone To: GrandIsland (#82)
I am more important that you are. I'm also better, stronger and more handsome. Funnier too.
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-04 08:16:51 Reply Private Reply
#93: GrandIsland To: A K A Stone (#89)
Im nullifying youre civil laws. You should understand that, Paultard.
You made this bed after you shit in it... now sleep in it.
lol
GrandIsland posted on 2019-10-04 08:17:33 Reply Private Reply
#94: A K A Stone To: Gatlin (#91)
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-04 08:17:40 Reply Private Reply
#95: GrandIsland To: A K A Stone (#92)
But you might be cat-less
lol
GrandIsland posted on 2019-10-04 08:18:37 Reply Private Reply
#96: Gatlin To: GrandIsland (#90)
He has really gone all out Deckard Or, is this the real Stone?Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-04 08:19:01 Reply Private Reply
#97: A K A Stone To: GrandIsland (#93)
You can do that on a jury if you like. But you aren't on the jury in this scenario. you are the defendant on trial on the news that murdered my poor little girls pet.
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-04 08:19:09 Reply Private Reply
#98: GrandIsland To: A K A Stone (#94)
Obviously NOT. He doesnt sit on here complaining that he cant grow weeds in his front yard... because he cares about his neighbors freedoms as much as he cares about HIS FREEDOMS. You Paultards arent built to think like that.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-10-04 08:21:19 Reply Private Reply
#99: A K A Stone To: Gatlin (#96)
This is the real Stone. I'm for obeying the law.
So Gatlin is ok with breaking the law and killing peoples pets. I do think your wife would be ashamed of you if she knew you support people killing peoples pets because a cat walked in their yard. It is illegal Gatlin. But I guess you are a phoney and don't care about the law.
Afterall you did admit you were a liar yesterday or the day before.
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-04 08:22:37 Reply Private Reply
#100: GrandIsland To: A K A Stone (#97)
I cant be in the jury of my own civil trial, dumb shit.
Have you been hitting DICKtards drug nullifying law bong?
GrandIsland posted on 2019-10-04 08:22:48 Reply Private Reply
#101: A K A Stone To: GrandIsland (#98)
Nope I don't think like you. I wouldn't kill my neighbors pet because it walked in my yard. Or even if it shit in my yard. That isn't what sane people do. That is what serial killer types do when they are kids.
Your buddy Gatlin supports you and thinks it is a good thing to kill peoples cats if they roam on your yard.
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-04 08:24:59 Reply Private Reply
#102: A K A Stone To: GrandIsland (#100)
Then how are you going to nullify it dumb piggy.
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-04 08:25:34 Reply Private Reply
#103: Gatlin To: A K A Stone (#94)
I cannot agree about something when I have not been shown evidence that it has happenedAnd if it is proven that it did happen then what, if any, justification there was for it.
Logic can be your best friend, Stone if only you will let it be
Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-04 08:26:15 Reply Private Reply
#104: GrandIsland To: A K A Stone (#99)
Im surprised he still posts in LIBERTY FLIP FLOP FLAME. Ive lost interest with your Paultard flip flops.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-10-04 08:26:58 Reply Private Reply
#105: GrandIsland To: A K A Stone (#102)
By nullifying your dumb kitty. lol
No more problem.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-10-04 08:28:23 Reply Private Reply
#106: A K A Stone To: Gatlin (#103)
What a lamer.
He said he would do it. Do you support that or are you a pussy and don't want to offend your would be feline killing friend.
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-04 08:28:29 Reply Private Reply
#107: Gatlin To: A K A Stone (#84)
The first two worked but the last one did not.I am not going to bother with it anymore,
For knowing you, it didnt mean shit anyway.
Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-04 08:28:45 Reply Private Reply
#108: A K A Stone To: GrandIsland (#104)
Leave or stay the choice is yours. I understand if you are embarrassed by your kook posts today and want to slither away.
But you said you weren't coming back a few other times before too.
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-04 08:30:35 Reply Private Reply
#109: A K A Stone To: Gatlin (#107)
No I don't think Grand Island is a serial killer. But his thoughts and ideas on this subject are wrong and illegal. Not the thought itself but if he carried them out.
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-04 08:32:36 Reply Private Reply
#110: A K A Stone To: Gatlin (#107)
At least I made you take off your mask and drop all the phoney Stone you are my friend and I respect you bullshit.
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-04 08:33:38 Reply Private Reply
#111: GrandIsland To: A K A Stone (#106)
Im about to put my dog, IN MY FENCED IN BACK YARD, so she can take a PAULTARD. I dont restrict my fucking dog to staying inside my yard BECAUSE OF LAWS. I DO IT BECAUSE ITS THE CONSIDERATE THING TO DO. Same ideology with my CAT (which I do own as well)
When you stop being a self important Paultard, you will understand that your cat doesnt have fucking constitutional rights, on my property.
If you truly love your kitty, you wont let it roam to be hit by a car... or a casualty to my very QUIET compound bow.
lol
GrandIsland posted on 2019-10-04 08:35:39 Reply Private Reply
#112: Gatlin To: A K A Stone (#106)
Hello
SAYING is not DOING.
Your really do have a problem with logic.
Whew
I support the First Amendment that guarantees our right to free expression. Call me pussy for supporting the First Amendment if it makes you feel better. But I will still support the First Amendment. Woah Hold on there, hossYou just said would be feline killing
Would be?
Hmmm
Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-04 08:46:09 Reply Private Reply
#113: A K A Stone To: GrandIsland (#111)
In all 50 states cats are allowed to roam on your ward. The birds an the bees too. In all 50 states the actions you advocate are illegal and will land you in jail.
Quit taking the criminal side and quit acting like a kook.
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-04 08:46:47 Reply Private Reply
#114: A K A Stone To: Gatlin (#112)
You are to afraid to answer the question.. bock bock
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-04 08:48:44 Reply Private Reply
#115: A K A Stone To: Gatlin (#112)
Yep it would be.
From now on don't answer any hypothetical questions because i might delete them since you wont answer mine because it will hurt your little friends feelings.
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-04 08:49:44 Reply Private Reply
#116: Gatlin To: A K A Stone, Grand Island, nolu chan (#110)
Nah, Stone
That is not what happened.
What you made me do was to confront you head on with truth and try to get you to use basic formative logic and think things through rationally.
I can see that I had no success in doing that and I realize that I probably never will.
But with me desperately trying to help you, what better evidence of being and friend and respecting you can there be?
I deeply regret that you cannot understand and see this.
I wish you well
Salute,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-04 08:56:28 Reply Private Reply
#117: A K A Stone To: Gatlin (#116)
No dumb ass. You dodged and played the asswipe for grandisland.
It isn't logical to pretend that killing a cat for walking on your yard is reasonable or rational or legal.
You don't give a shit about the law. You just like coming here to bait Deckard and have fun posting stuff.
That's it. You wren't trying to teach shit. You like pretending you know something and you do sometimes. But not here.
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-04 08:59:56 Reply Private Reply
#118: Gatlin To: A K A Stone, GrandIsland, nolu chan (#115)
Your threat against me is duly noted and taken to heart.
I shall give you no reason to ever carry out your threat.
With sincere personal regards,
Gatlin
Gatlin posted on 2019-10-04 09:03:21 Reply Private Reply
#119: A K A Stone To: Gatlin (#118)
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-04 09:06:44 Reply Private Reply
#120: Tooconservative To: A K A Stone (#116)
This is textbook gaslighting technique, designed to emotionally manipulate you and make you question your own judgement and even your own sanity. Psychopaths are well-known for gaslighting their victims, for instance. It's not hard to detect these people because they do have enough success in manipulating people that they begin to think they are more effective at it than they are. Usually it just means their gaslighting only works with dumb people so they conclude that they are brilliant. Which all fits the demeanor Gatlin displays here.
I'm glad you recognized the pattern of constant manipulative language, the ego stroking, the insistence they are acting on your behalf to correct your befuddled thinking, etc. I think that in real life, you've encountered more than a few of these types of people. Running a small business, I think you encounter all kinds of people, including some real con men and scammers.
He doesn't want you to delete his account permanently. He's departing for now, laughing, but does intend to return some months from now. This is classic Canary technique.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-10-04 11:00:14 Reply Private Reply
#121: Stoner To: Tooconservative (#120)
He will be back shortly to call you a Paultard, and stink up the place some more LOL !
Stoner posted on 2019-10-04 13:31:43 Reply Private Reply
#122: Tooconservative To: Stoner (#121)
Tooconservative posted on 2019-10-04 14:32:49 Reply Private Reply
#123: Stoner To: Tooconservative (#122)
Oh my God !!!
How can you possibly live with that ? How devastating !! /sarc LOL !!!
Stoner posted on 2019-10-04 15:40:40 Reply Private Reply
#124: Tooconservative To: Stoner (#123)
I cry myself to sleep, every night.
I may just have to kill myself because Gatshit put me on bozo and so life is no longer worth living.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-10-04 15:43:46 Reply Private Reply
#125: Stoner To: Tooconservative (#120)
Yeah, that is probably true !!
What is also true, we can all enjoy the peace, calm & tranquility during his absence !!
Stoner posted on 2019-10-04 15:48:25 Reply Private Reply
#126: Stoner To: Tooconservative (#124)
I certainly hope you learn to deal with that. Have your wife lock up all guns, knives, etc, and to keep a close eye on you! LOL !!!
Stoner posted on 2019-10-04 15:52:17 Reply Private Reply
#127: GrandIsland To: A K A Stone (#117)
Its not logical to pretend that your asshole cat isnt shitting all over your neighbors, you LAZY asshole. Buy a litter box, and keep your filthy kritter on YOUR property.
Its turds like you, that caused HOAs in the first place. No wonder you loath them like a 24 karat Paultard. Because you are the most important person you know. lol
GrandIsland posted on 2019-10-04 16:42:26 Reply Private Reply
#128: A K A Stone To: GrandIsland (#127)
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-04 16:54:21 Reply Private Reply
#129: GrandIsland To: A K A Stone (#128)
But.... your fucking cat isnt shitting on my property anymore, now is it?
Haaaaaa
GrandIsland posted on 2019-10-04 16:56:16 Reply Private Reply
#130: A K A Stone To: GrandIsland (#127)
My cat is allowed to shit in your yard. In fact I would train it to do just that based on your attitude. In fact i'd bring in some stray cats and drop them off at your place.
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-04 16:57:01 Reply Private Reply
#131: A K A Stone To: GrandIsland (#129)
But your ass in 3 inches wider.
Haaaaa Haaaaa
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-04 16:58:50 Reply Private Reply
#132: GrandIsland To: A K A Stone (#130)
Keep the kittys flowing before archery season. I spend hours practicing. lol
GrandIsland posted on 2019-10-04 17:07:17 Reply Private Reply
#133: GrandIsland To: A K A Stone (#131)
Genesis 9:3
3 Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything.
Im hungry A LOT ... Id keep your dog locked up, too
GrandIsland posted on 2019-10-04 17:17:11 Reply Private Reply
#134: GrandIsland To: A K A Stone (#131)
Now then, take your weapons, your quiver and your bow, and go out to the field and hunt game for me.
God wants me to kill your cat. God NULLIFIES your little PETA feelings being hurt.
Soon, you will FLIP FLOP on the issue, like you do with your drug addict loving Paultard posters, that occasionally tell you to fuck off... then you love them.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-10-04 17:22:18 Reply Private Reply
#135: nolu chan To: A K A Stone, GrandIsland, Gatlin (#117)
It is nonsense like this thread (and flat earth) that motivates me to go do something else which does not threaten to kill brain cells.
I have not commented on this thread at all. Anyway, as I have been pinged to this glorious intellectual battle,
GrandIsland's comment is in the context of criticism of those who engage in espousing jury nullification when it suits them and condemning it when it goes against their wishes. They perceive either a juror constitutional right, or an unconstitutional overreach, depending on the result. GI reserves the sacred right to nullify cats trespassing on his property.
GrandIsland's snark about nullifying a law (or cats, or a law about cats) makes as much sense as the typical legal rationale for something given around here. Folks around here commonly express disdain for the laws they disagree with. Personal opinions are expressed as the actual law, quotations of real laws are held in contempt.
[A K A Stone 2019-06-23] I just noticed this is another article by the liar Matt Argorist. No more articles from that freak.
[A K A Stone 2019-09-04] Post Matt.
Did you not approve posts from the liar and freak, Matt Agorist? If posts from an acknowledged liar and freak are permissible, how can anyone be outraged at a few snarky or factually challenged comments?
That moved on to:
When I proved that the Federal court cannot order a State government to pay, this advanced to:
It is nice that you now don't care one way or the other, and that you still think the govt will pay, but neither you nor Deckard can provide any legal reason or rationale to support the original Matt Agorist headline that blared, "Taxpayers to Be Held Liable After Cops Steal Mans Phone."
Your response is above, and Deckard's response is to run and hide in silence as he usually does, only to resume streetwalking and selling his bullshit on different threads with your approval.
https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=60194&Disp=11#C11
A Florida Retiree's Uncut Lawn May Cost Him His House
As I pointed out last night, this tall tale of Jim Ficken's tall grass, repeated for the fourth time in four different months, is, shall we say, somewhat legally and factually challenged. I provide court documents which provide a different story than the one-sided propaganda being shilled here. Court documents tend to evoke crickets.
We are just lucky nothing real is happening in the world, or we would miss it.
May the farce be with all y'all.
nolu chan posted on 2019-10-04 17:31:29 Reply Private Reply