(Video taken through a Nikon P900 camera)
Poster Comment:
Cool! Great shot of the Moon as well. (Sure doesn't seem like it's 239,000 miles away.)
So.... is balloon technology how NASA really photographs earth? It appears they are able to attach an equipment gondola to the Balloon...and let 'er rip into Low Earth Orbit.
One also wonders if "Astronauts" are actually embedded into a special Balloon gondola instead what's depicted in those dodgy "ISS" shots. Orbital velocity is the velocity needed to achieve balance between gravity's pull on the satellite and the inertia of the satellite's motion -- the satellite's tendency to keep going. This is approximately 17,000 mph (27,359 kph) at an altitude of 150 miles (242 kilometers). Without gravity, the satellite's inertia would carry it off into space.
Moving juuuust a bit slower than 17,000 MPH. Source:
'HOW STUFF WORKS'
https://science.howstuffworks.com/satellite6.htm
#55: Liberator To: Deckard (#53)
Yes, and THAT ("high altitude") is exactly how the Dominic mission would understandably be described to the public.
In truth, it really was indeed a "high altitude test." But to "test" exactly what? (THE FIRMAMENT, aka God's Dome.) The Soviets also tried their best as well during the 1950s. THEY ALL KNOW THE TRUTH.
Other non-mainstream sources tell the real truth for the reason behind that insane mission.
"Dominic = Dominion of God". They knew what it was. And tried to crash through His Dome/Firmament.
Yup, Fishbowl was another bizarre experiment/mission/attempt to crack the Firmament/Dome and escape beyond....
Were the true intentions divulged, it would justifiably evoke incredulity and uber-raised eyebrows, wouldn't it?
I'd also seen Bill Nye's statement. It's strange, isn't it? NOT because it's true, but because he's been one of the public faces of shilling for Establishment's Fake Science Op.
Liberator posted on 2019-10-02 13:48:34 Reply Private Reply
#56: Liberator To: A K A Stone (#13)
The surface of the Nile -- like all water and oceans IS flat. It's bottom slopes.
Rivers flow because its water-mass pushes it...where it finally seeks and finds its ultimate level. In the case of the Nile, The Mediterranean Sea.
In the case of the Great Lakes, Niagara Falls and St. Lawrence River -- the Atlantic Ocean. And so forth.
Liberator posted on 2019-10-02 13:56:05 Reply Private Reply
#57: Liberator To: Tooconservative (#34)
Congratulations!
In a sea of TooConservative's abject absurdity and hyperbolic turds, you've succeeded in staining LF with a top 5 all-time stupid post.
This gaslighting technique of yours and censorship crusade -- how's that working out for you?
Your lame derision and mockery of those who have looong exposed the Rockefellerians/Jesuits/Bilderberg/Illuminati/Freemasons/CFR elites for what they are -- actual dark, subversive organizations and entities intent in ushering their dystopic One World Government -- no longer works. That BS may have worked 10 years ago.
The truth about those orgs and their like-minded agenda to control EVERYTHING is out there all over the place, exposed for the world to see (much to your chagrin, frustration, and futile efforts to support censorship and to restrict sharing free knowledge.) THE GALL OF TRUTH SEEKERS!! How dare we!
This collective of Global/Elites (as you named some of them) are openly and actively changing this world for the worst with their Globalist NWO agenda. Even YOU know it...
So calm down. It's ok to surrender and refrain from your cartoonish portrayal and lies that these elite orgs are just benign, phantom organizations, the victims of unfounded paranoia from "CTs".
Liberator posted on 2019-10-02 14:19:21 Reply Private Reply
#58: Liberator To: A K A Stone (#13)
If its surface is FLAT for its entire 3,000 miles, that means there is absolutely NO earth curvature (as we are told should be the case) for 3,000 miles. There's no refuting this.
The reason a barge is used to videotape and document the trip along the river is so the result can't be faked.
Liberator posted on 2019-10-02 14:24:53 Reply Private Reply
#59: Liberator To: Deckard (#51)
Yes, I agree.
This is in accordance to the Scientists' "Spinning Globe Earth" theory AND Earth-revolves-around-the-Sun" theory.
Why is it light on one side of the world and dark on the opposite side at the same moment?
Because it takes @24 hours for the Sun to shine to perpetually rotate in a circuit over the entire face of the Earth. AND, because the Sun is local and NOT 93,000 million miles away.
Liberator posted on 2019-10-02 14:39:34 Reply Private Reply
#60: Liberator To: Deckard, TooConservative (#52)
TC's understanding of the Sun's short (local) distance from Earth by Flat Earthers and Bible-Earther literalists is correct.
As to just what "sun spots" are, there ARE interesting theories as you might assume. Regarding "disruptions to satellite comms"? Electro-magnetic interference is a primary theory. UV rays? Dunno if its possible to explain the composition and dynamics of some things. Like the Sun AND Moon. Theories? Of course.
(And furthermore, why do people use the phrase "not to mention..." and then go on to mention the items they were not going to mention?)
Maybe...For the same reason, "Furthermore", "Moreover," and, "I-forget-to-include-this" are used.
Liberator posted on 2019-10-02 14:51:11 Reply Private Reply
#61: Tooconservative To: Liberator (#60)
I enjoy using "It goes without saying". You have to give them hope that you won't be saying anything more on that topic but then can stare them in the eyes as they slowly realize it was just a ploy. : )
Tooconservative posted on 2019-10-02 15:21:28 Reply Private Reply
#62: Liberator To: Tooconservative (#61)
;-)
Liberator posted on 2019-10-02 15:25:08 Reply Private Reply
#63: Deckard To: Liberator (#54)
I don't dispute that, I think we just disagree as to why it's restricted.
Deckard posted on 2019-10-02 15:29:41 Reply Private Reply
#64: Tooconservative To: Liberator (#57)
Perhaps you should consider whether my mocking to get you to defend your Rockefellerians/Jesuits/Bilderberg/Illuminati/Freemasons/CFR CTs is because I am a crafty Reptilian, trying to deflect your attention away from us Reptilians.
BTW, I don't recall that you've ever taken a position on Reptilian Theory.
So here's your chance to go on the record. After all, no one knew you were into Flat Earth Theory until just this year.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-10-02 15:31:58 Reply Private Reply
#65: Deckard To: Liberator (#55)
From what I have seen, it's one flat-earther with a Pinterest page.
I'd also seen Bill Nye's statement. It's strange, isn't it? NOT because it's true, but because he's been one of the public faces of shilling for Establishment's Fake Science Op.
After researching that quote, it appears to have been taken out of context and used in a flat earth meme.
Deckard posted on 2019-10-02 15:32:40 Reply Private Reply
#66: Deckard To: Liberator (#57)
It's called a straw man:
Find or create a seeming element of your opponents argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad.
Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges.
Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.
I'm with you on pretty much everything else Lib, so I am not going to make fun of you for your flat earth beliefs.
At this point in time however I'm not on board.
What you are saying might very well be true.
Deckard posted on 2019-10-02 15:38:55 Reply Private Reply
#67: Deckard To: Tooconservative, Liberator (#64)
Good thing you didn't ask me.
Deckard posted on 2019-10-02 15:40:52 Reply Private Reply
#68: GrandIsland To: Liberator, Deckard (#51)
Im not a huge fan of Dicktards, we aint best buds... but damn, thats an excellent question he asked. If the earth is FLAT, how is it sunny on one side and dark on the other at the very same moment?
Does NASA make the water in your toilet spin one direction, when you flush?
GrandIsland posted on 2019-10-02 18:16:42 Reply Private Reply
#69: Tooconservative To: Deckard (#67)
I'm not going to take that chance. Wait your turn.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-10-02 19:16:33 Reply Private Reply
#70: sneakypete To: Tooconservative (#18)
I bet the dam Gypsies had something to do with it,too!
sneakypete posted on 2019-10-03 15:38:42 Reply Private Reply
#71: sneakypete To: GrandIsland (#19)
That's not a bet I would be placing money against.
sneakypete posted on 2019-10-03 15:40:37 Reply Private Reply
#72: sneakypete To: Liberator (#24)
Gravity is now a THEORY?????
I hope someone responsible ends up taking over your finances so you don't end up homeless and hungry.
BTW,that was where I quit reading. I just don't have the necessary patience to go any further.
Sorry.
sneakypete posted on 2019-10-03 15:45:36 Reply Private Reply
#73: sneakypete To: Tooconservative (#29)
Yew talk-kin bout ME,boy?
Ah bet you talk-kin bout me.
WATCH IT,causen ahs watching YEW,TO!
sneakypete posted on 2019-10-03 15:49:16 Reply Private Reply
#74: Tooconservative To: sneakypete (#73)
I just had a birthday very recently so I do feel I am now a qualified member in good standing of LF's elite Contrarian Old Asshole Club.
Of course, I lack your considerable seniority so I'm really just a Junior Asshole at this point.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-10-03 15:52:30 Reply Private Reply
#75: sneakypete To: nolu chan (#37)
ISA watch-in you,to,boy!
Dam trubblemakin killjoy!
sneakypete posted on 2019-10-03 15:52:33 Reply Private Reply
#76: sneakypete To: Tooconservative (#74)
Ah didn get no memburshp dos.
Whurs mah monie?
sneakypete posted on 2019-10-03 15:55:00 Reply Private Reply
#77: sneakypete To: Tooconservative (#74)
Not to worrie. I am shore you will grow into hit.
sneakypete posted on 2019-10-03 15:56:13 Reply Private Reply
#78: Liberator To: GrandIsland, Deckard (#68)
I'm always up for honest and legit questions (or issues.)
You internally you envision a globe-earth as we've all been told/taught in the Heliocentric Model -- that the Earth is angled at 23 degrees as it rotates around the Sun.
In the Flat Earth model version of Day/Night, the Sun rotates are IT. The magnetic North Pole is dead-center of the Flat Earth model. (The restricted Antarctica and unknown-beyond is the outer ring.)
As you see here, the Sun rotates in its circuit from East to West, illuminating half the world every 12 hours -- just like the Globe Earth model. It shifts its circuit and angle slightly as the Seasons are also demonstrated.
These are just a simple demonstrations.
Liberator posted on 2019-10-03 16:51:07 Reply Private Reply
#79: Liberator To: sneakypete (#72)
Gravity is ABSOLUTELY only a theory created by the Cult of Fake "Science" to explain all its other BS.
I hope someone responsible ends up taking over your finances so you don't end up homeless and hungry. BTW,that was where I quit reading.
Wait a minute; Aren't you the one who actually believed Elon Musk floated a CAR in "Outer Space"?? I should be worried about YOU.
Reading NOT necessary:
Liberator posted on 2019-10-03 17:01:46 Reply Private Reply
#80: Liberator To: nolu chan (#37)
I don't think you've researched the phenomena of "eclipse" much.
Liberator posted on 2019-10-03 17:05:06 Reply Private Reply
#81: Liberator To: Deckard (#65)
I've found numerous corroborative sources. Many which document and detail those same similar missions. Very interesting. And disturbing.
During the 1950s and early 1960s, the US military and its various newly created "National Security" agencies and depts had virtual carte blanche to do whatever they wanted.
Remember -- in virtual secret, they began conducting crazy medical/drug experiments on its own military personnel and those in jail; sent huge task forces to explore Antarctica (see Admiral Byrd), detonated high alt nukes, underground and above ground nukes just miles from Western US population centers. And how many Pacific Islands did they contaminate indiscriminately? It appears quite a few of these operations were rogue, "playing with House Money." (We also know certain Alphabet Agys, MSM, and Social Media giants are all in bed together, quashing truth while advancing lies and a Coup, focusing on other ways and operations that endanger us all.)
Back to the issue at hand on controlling information and criminalizing "CTs"....
There are ramifications and dangers from the massive info take-downs, censorship, and deep-sixes of truth and "truthers", and "CTs" -- many related to "Flat Earth," 911, NASA, JFK, PizzaG*te, "False Flags", 0bama's BC, etc.
These days the only way to find this kind of stuff is to diligently drill down for and find one good source; usually that source will have bookmarked similar channels...and so forth. It's one reason I feel we have only so much time before ALL truth is gone, leaving nothing but mis-info & dis-info.
I have been monitoring this kind of stuff in real time at YT for the past six months. Just months ago YT's algorythms were bouncing you to related material. They've shut that down. You'd be shocked at the volume that's already been disappeared.
Liberator posted on 2019-10-03 17:30:40 Reply Private Reply
#82: Deckard To: Liberator (#78)
From your video it appears that much of the world remains in darkness all the time seems to me.
I was watching the sun chasing the moon - that video depiction seems sketchy, no offense.
Deckard posted on 2019-10-03 17:43:53 Reply Private Reply
#83: Deckard To: Liberator (#81)
That's one reason why I haven't completely dismissed your flat earth beliefs. Somebody or several somebodies do not want this information to be seen. Same thing happening with numerous other sites that are anathema to those who preach the official government dogma,
Deckard posted on 2019-10-03 17:50:52 Reply Private Reply
#84: nolu chan To: Liberator (#80)
Try your mindless bullshit on Dr. Neil Degrasse Tyson.
Start at 2m23s
https://youtu.be/hLPPE3_DVCw?t=143
Start at beginning:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLPPE3_DVCw
StarTalk
780K subscribers
Neil deGrasse Tyson takes on the subject of our spherical world, and this time he has not only science but history on his side. If you want to follow along and then test your knowledge, enroll in this Brilliant course:
https://brilliant.org/StarTalk/
Note: In illustrating a total lunar eclipse we used a bit of animation that didnt portray Earths umbra and penumbra accurately. To see a graphic that accurately depicts both portions of Earth's shadow in space, visit
https://www.startalkradio.net/shedding-light-on-earths-shadow-in-our-recent-youtube-video/
nolu chan posted on 2019-10-03 19:53:09 Reply Private Reply
#85: sneakypete To: Liberator (#79)
No. "Space" "floated a car in space" because everything in space is weightless.
Planets float in space. Do does the Sun. Just in case you don't know,they are all heavier than a car.
sneakypete posted on 2019-10-03 21:02:59 Reply Private Reply
#86: Tooconservative To: sneakypete (#85)
Well, heavy is kind of a relative term.
They recently celebrated the first orbit of the car out to a near-Mars trajectory. Musk says they might someday send a small launch just to take some photos of it to see how badly space has treated it.
Since space is really hard on things, the car will just disintegrate mostly. After a year of cosmic rays and unprotected solar radiation, all the car's paint, tires, plastics, and leather have already turned to space dust, a little cloud floating around the decaying car. The metals and carbon fiber parts will last somewhat longer. Some years from now, it will be aluminum frame and what little bits of glass haven't been broken by micro-meteorites that keep bashing it.
It's still the only vehicle certified as a road vehicle to be launched into space. Funny, Musk shopped it around and offered free launch space to the Air Force and NASA and they all turned him down. They wouldn't put their stuff on his rocket. He flies it once (with all 27 rocket engines firing and then spectacularly lands both boosters in tandem back in Florida and the core booster on his barge at sea) and now they line up to pay him to launch stuff on his Falcon Heavy.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-10-03 22:28:16 Reply Private Reply
#87: nolu chan To: Tooconservative, sneakypete (#86)
Weight measures the force of gravity. To compare objects floating in space, mass would be the measurement of comparison.
nolu chan posted on 2019-10-04 01:24:00 Reply Private Reply
#88: Tooconservative To: nolu chan, sneakypete (#87)
Which is why I said it was a relative term.
On round (oblate spheroid) Earth, it is the force of attraction between your own mass and the immensely greater mass of the planetary gravity well.
On Flat Earth, there is no such thing as gravity. They insist that objects fall to the ground because the entire Flat Earth, sun and moon and the firmament (base of the flat earth) are all thrusting "upward" toward the sky. So objects do not fall to the ground at all; instead the ground is constantly rising up to hit the (falling) object. Thus the notion of gravity that we know from Newtonian physics is just another fancy lie promulgated by NASA, the government, the Jesuits, the Freemasons, the Build-a-burgers, and all those smart kids who passed science, math, and physics. And they're all wrong or just lying about it. To hide the fact that the Earth is both flat and is thrusting "upward" eternally.
Flattards are what you get when you neglect science education while still raising kids to believe they're all very special and smart.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-10-04 02:36:21 Reply Private Reply
#89: Liberator To: nolu chan (#84)
WHO??
The embarrassing, beclowned McScience Shill?? Who next? Bill Nye??
*cringing*
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/12/21/scientists-who-are-actually-really-stupid-1-neil-degrasse-tyson/
Scientists Who Are Actually Really Stupid: #1, Neil deGrasse Tyson
He says Venus is suffering from global warming, for instance.
His Twitter feed, naturally, is packed to the gills with daft comparisons, meaningless apples-to-oranges number crunching and red meat for his hyper-progressive fan club.
Liberator posted on 2019-10-04 07:13:25 Reply Private Reply
#90: Liberator To: Tooconservative, ALL (#88)
HA!
What a bizarre comment. "Science Education"?? "Raising kids"?? Remind us again -- what is your Doctorate in? For how long did you quash the curiousity of while teaching/indoctrinating your 7th grade pods?
Actual "Science"? NOT your forte. GATE-KEEPING and DIS-INFO is. Bravo! The best propaganda always contains some truth as you have always managed. (The purposeful mis-spelling above of "Build-a-burgers" is always a cute touch, btw.)
Your Elite Masters don't care about holding the fort at so small a forum (as you claimed recently) at LF.
I know...It galls you; The free flow of hidden information that exposes your heroes. Yes, your Gatekeeper Efforts commendable, if a bit OCD.
If any curious posters and lurkers want to investigate any of the above organizations , please do. As with all "controversial" sources, you'll want the truth, so ignore mainstream sources. Prepare to be amazed, disgusted and shocked at what you find.
Liberator posted on 2019-10-04 07:36:20 Reply Private Reply
#91: Liberator To: Deckard (#82)
No offense.
The "Sunlight" is not to scale. Nor is it the proper coverage. It as I mentioned is a simple demo of the sun's theoretical direction on a Flat Earth -- as well as its circuit that create seasons.
It is NOT CGI enhanced, obviously (which NASA Studios/Hollywood $$ does routinely.)
(There was also an interesting brief theoretical simulation of how the Sun and Moon are perhaps magnetically "attached" to the Earth.)
Liberator posted on 2019-10-04 07:43:00 Reply Private Reply
#92: A K A Stone To: Liberator (#91)
It is pointless to debate retard stuff like this. It is like debating that a square wheel is better than a round one. Or some such stupid shit.
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-04 07:47:23 Reply Private Reply
#93: Liberator To: Deckard (#83)
That is exactly what these subjects ALL have in common: Accounts that are anathema to "official government dogma" are being declared "dangerous." It can't be a coincidence.
It's Twilight Zone/Black Mirror Orwellian predictive programming run amok.
Liberator posted on 2019-10-04 07:48:21 Reply Private Reply
#94: Liberator To: A K A Stone (#92)
The first line of Isaiah 40:22: It is He who sits above the circle of the earth. Do you know the difference between "circle" and "Globe" or "Ball"?
God does. Don't believe me -- LOOK. IT. UP. "Waters ABOVE the Firmament"; Water BELOW the Firmament. I can cite chapter and verse which support this realm is NOT what we ALL once gullibly believed (from Institutions and Authoritahs that do nothing but LIE to us. Or DO you believe them?)
Liberator you aren't to smart. You are gullible.
Do you know the definition of "gullible"? And "irony"??
"It is pointless to debate retard stuff like this."
You mean "stuff" like "TRUTH"? If that's a problem for you, just let me know.
Liberator posted on 2019-10-04 07:55:54 Reply Private Reply
#95: A K A Stone To: Liberator (#94)
Yep the earth was surrounded by water. The floodgates of heaven were opened up and it rained on us.
You are gullible. No sense in arguing a retarded point. You're a decent person but you're as wrong as you can be. Like TC said you will convince on one of your delusions.
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-04 08:00:18 Reply Private Reply
#96: Liberator To: sneakypete, Deckard, GrandIsland, nolu chan, A K A Stone (#85)
And you know this because...We've been taught this for 100 years in our "Science" book? "Science" is TESTED. The "floating" demonstrations you see on the ISS are sloppy pull-wires, CGI, and other tricks that are DOCUMENTED.
The entire Space X and Car/Musk stunt with the car was matted on a CGI background. Because it was LIVE, the techs didn't react immediately to it (didn't you watch the video I posted??)
Liberator posted on 2019-10-04 08:02:57 Reply Private Reply
#97: A K A Stone To: Liberator (#96)
You've gone full retard now. Bye.
A K A Stone posted on 2019-10-04 08:05:40 Reply Private Reply
#98: Liberator To: A K A Stone (#95)
You are gullible. No sense in arguing a retarded point.
There are numerous points -- all interrelated to this realm called "Earth," as well as with respect to the Cosmos -- i.e. the Moon, Sun, and Stars (ALL by the way of which are placed within The Firmament according to the word of God in Genesis. Again -- don't take my word for it. READ IT.)
Like TC said you will convince on one of your delusions.
TC has gaslighted you?? Wow.
Liberator posted on 2019-10-04 08:07:54 Reply Private Reply
#99: Liberator To: A K A Stone (#97)
Liberator posted on 2019-10-04 08:08:55 Reply Private Reply
#100: sneakypete To: Tooconservative (#86)
That car,with the fake-suited astronaut behind the wheel,HAS to be THE coolest thing ever launched into space.
Doing that was a pure stroke of genius. Not quite up to landing the rockets at the sage sites they took off from from a practical point of view,but cool none the less.
Nobody can doubt the genius of Musk as a salesman.
sneakypete posted on 2019-10-04 11:13:36 Reply Private Reply
#101: sneakypete To: Tooconservative (#88)
Clever bastids,ain't dey?
They ain't fooled weuns,tho!
sneakypete posted on 2019-10-04 11:15:32 Reply Private Reply
#102: sneakypete To: Liberator (#96)
You're funny.
sneakypete posted on 2019-10-04 11:21:36 Reply Private Reply
#103: Tooconservative To: sneakypete (#100)
It's now widely regarded as the most effective car advertising gimmick in the history of advertising.
Musk managed to use both of his major companies, Tesla and SpaceX, to cross-promote each other in a unique and unprecedented way. Musk said it had an added benefit of expanding the ideas of what we can launch into space and do in space. Which is his mission in life.
He does have a knack for this stuff. Like when he sold his Not A Flamethrower flamethrowers. He skirted legal niceties and sold 20,000 for $500 each, all on pre-order in five days. He could have sold a few million of them if he'd wanted to. I don't doubt they'll become collectibles. Nice way to net $10 million in sales without even trying, all based on a throwaway joke tweet by Musk. Someone called him on it and he decided to take the challenge and had his engineers crank out a design in only a few days. After some testing and legal work, Musk shipped them only a few months later.
TheVerge: I have a Boring Company Not-A-Flamethrower
Yeah, you could just buy/build a weedburner which is about what they are. But Musk's is a lot more fun because it comes in a gun-like format to make your neighbors a little nervous.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-10-04 11:30:48 Reply Private Reply
#104: nolu chan To: Liberator (#89)
Since 1996, Neil Degrasse Tyson has been the Frederick P. Rose Director of the Hayden Planetarium at the Rose Center for Earth and Space in New York City.
All your life, you have been a sniveling asshole.
nolu chan posted on 2019-10-04 13:14:20 Reply Private Reply