The CIA’s Influence Over the Media: Use of the Conspiracy Theorist Slur

Sigh......it’s 2019.

Don’t you have anything from the last 40 years at least? With as much evidence there is against a whole shit load of people.

Come on, man. It's a 5-minute overview that does some quick dot-connecting on the history and genesis of Freemasonry and worship of its cult and "god." NOT a documentary.

(and again, those at and near the top of the Masonic priesthood are the ones who YOU should investigate. The grunts at lower levels have NO idea what's going on. All *I* can do is shine a tiny light on it.)

I still, see no evidence of the stuff you take on faith. (Talk about a religion, sheesh!)

Whole different issue. I realize and accept that you're locked into your own faith of non-faith, so I won't go there.

I mean it's a pretty significant statement, no? Especially considering the source.

BTW, lemme make this easy.

We all know the evidence against George Soros for what it is that you are EXACTLY accusing the Freemasons of doing.

Really??

The Freemasons have officially been driving to the hoop as an organization for control of people and gubmint for abut 250 years. Under the radar (sorta.)

Soros and his orgs are a relative wisp of smoke, acting on behalf of the LARGER cabal of Elites. IN THE OPEN. No comparison.

There are LOTS of money transfers to horrible groups that can be traced directly back to him. Show me one, just friggen one, instance like this with Masons.

Can’t find that?

They run their organizations much differently. Apples and Watermelons. AND to much different long-range & personal goals.

Honestly, I don’t expect anyone to consider any of the things I’ve posted in this thread. It’s way too easy to tune out any such questions if they don’t comport to a belief hardwired in the brain.

Irony right there. *I* believe YOU believe you've figured it all out and laid out your supposed case.

"Money Transfers"?? You believe THAT is a primary factor of comparing Masons vs. Soros agenda? Not even in the same universe. Soros isn't close to the high degree of control of people, politics, courts, business and organizations by Masons in the US.

I still haven’t had anyone address the structure in any meaningful way...

I haven't the time or motivation to post stuff you'll merely dismiss or not watch/read. And admit it; you're not interested in digging deeper than your pre-conceived notion of "Masons" other than at the benevolence achieved at the LOCAL local level -- which again is MUCH different than the agenda at the TOP of the food-chain. And expressly DESIGNED that way. It's actually ingenious.

Do powerful people conspire in private to increase power and wealth at the expense of the masses? Certainly. Do they need the structure of the Freemasons to do that? Hell no, in fact, that would be stupid, and that, they are not.

Not only "power and wealth" -- nearly EVERY org aspires for that.

All I can say is...research it yourself.

IS it possible your mind hasn't been hard-wired to reject ANY and EVERY notion of doubt? Just saying.

Big difference between "I doubt it happened that way" and "It didn't happen that way".

Moot point. In either case my response is, "OK. Fine. I can accept your doubt. But WHY do you doubt it and how DID it happen?"

No response. People like you simply slink away and refuse to answer.

You would think that if the CIA Director did indeed say this we would have heard more about it over the last 40 years.

Aren't you forgetting about the unholy marriage between the MSM and CIA?

In either case my response is, "OK. Fine. I can accept your doubt. But WHY do you doubt it and how DID it happen?"

No response.

Come on, MW...

Over the years theories on the WHYS and HOWS have been posted to death.

People like you simply slink away and refuse to answer.

You can't be serious.

Ok, I'll bite...

Be specific -- on which questions regarding 911 would you like answered?

Be specific -- on which questions regarding 911 would you like answered?

I'll make it easy plus give you your choice.

A) If a fire didn't bring down WTC 7, what did and what is your evidence?

-- or --

B) If a 757 didn't hit the Pentagon, what did and what is your evidence?

The Masons at ‘the top’ are voted there. You fail, repeatedly, to grasp that. It’s truly amazing. There is no super secret squirrel level of masonry. And, you fail to provide a single iota of proof of anything sinister in last 50 years.

Love ya man, but this thread isn’t a good look on you.

These retarded vids/stories have been on the interwebs for as long as it’s been a thing. And, I read, a lot.

A) If a fire didn't bring down WTC 7, what did and what is your evidence?

Too easy. How about Larry Silverstein's own words?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-jPzAakHPpk

"Fire"?? How can you be sure it wasn't purposely set as cover for...THE CONTROLLED DEMO??

Same pre-controlled demo as both towers. The "planes" were designed as cover as well. But I digress...

Building 7 EVIDENCE (just a few bullet points):

1) Collapsed in its own footprint (yes, oddly, just like the two towers. A building MUST be pre-wired for such precision, taking far more time than a few hours.)

2) Corroborative testimony of people warned to get out of Building 7 (prior to the pulling of the building.)

3) A reporter announced on LIVE AIR that the building had collapsed. BEFORE IT ACTUALLY COLLAPSED. (Yes, even I watched this report in real time, live.)

B) If a 757 didn't hit the Pentagon, what did and what is your evidence?

The evidence from both perspectives of argument of exactly what hit the Pentagram is circumstantial.

Your side cannot possibly cite any "evidence" that a 757 was actually what hit this building; Nor that a noob-pilot from Saudi Arabia expertly guided such an aircraft at near-ground level into the Pentagram (a direct hit into the General Accounting office, coincidently just a day after Rumsfeld public revelation of a missing $2 TRILLION.)

As circumstantial evidence from the other side, there is absolutely ZERO video OR scientific, OR forensic evidence that ANY "plane" hit the Pentagram. Given ZERO video despite countless security cameras.

I'm also going to discount the smattering of so-called "witnesses" (who happen to be gubmint employees) from afar who claim they "saw a plane."

There isn't ONE shred of evidence to support the physics that such a large plane created such a small hole in the Pentagram. (a few lame props strewn around weren't convincing.)

A mountain video and other documentation is out there, but why bother? If yu seek the truth you'll find it. Regarding the truth, this is yet another case of cognitive dissonance and, "We [blindly] accept the reality of the world with which we are presented."

A mountain video and other documentation is out there, but why bother?

It amazes me that those who roundly criticize the MSM for lying unquestioningly believe they are telling the truth about paradigm-shifting events like this and others.

Damn dood. Your fantasy world is built solid, I must say. There is no super secret squirrel level of masonry.

Uh, ok.

Love ya man, but this thread isn’t a good look on you.

Same bro. Love you too. But in your case the adage, "we accept the reality of the world with which we are presented" also applies.

If you seek the truth you'll find it.

It amazes me that those who roundly criticize the MSM for lying unquestioningly believe they are telling the truth about paradigm-shifting events like this and others.

Yup. Exactamundo. They want it BOTH ways.

Letting any Goob "official report" and a pathologically lying MSM create their reality and truth makes no sense these days.

That's called, "cognitive dissonance."

Oh, and btw, it’s something I know about.

Ok, I'll challenge you on this; That "something" is WHAT? Freemasonry?

Watching goofy videos with scary music talking about people who’ve been dead for hundreds of years doesn’t address a single thing about those questions and facts you just ignore.

What "questions and facts" have I ignored? I'll try and accommodate you.

If that video were part of a meal at the Olive Garden, it'd be "The Breadsticks."

These retarded vids/stories have been on the interwebs for as long as it’s been a thing. And, I read, a lot.

With all due respect, if you're not looking into a certain area of knowledge to investigate it, you won't find it.

Moreover, as quickly as many new (revealing) content hits youtube on a number of issues, it's taken down. Additionally, G00gle/Alphabet-Controlled algorithms are controlled and manipulated to bury such material as they deem "dangerous"...yeah, like "CTs" -- the thrust of this thread to begin with.

Moreover, as quickly as many new (revealing) content hits youtube on a number of issues, it's taken down. Additionally, G00gle/Alphabet-Controlled algorithms are controlled and manipulated to bury such material as they deem "dangerous"...yeah, like "CTs" -- the thrust of this thread to begin with.

There's an interesting comment HERE that might interest you.

Scroll down to the comment made by Bill Bray, Former (Retired) Research Scientist at Central Intelligence Agency concerning Google algorithms.

If you really want to take the Dr. Bill acid test, go into Google AdWords. That is where they sell key words to the highest bidder so that their site floats to the top (no it is not ‘free information highway,’ that’s how Google became a multi-billion organization). Watch the key words that are floating to the top. Then, look at tomorrow morning’s headlines in Google, Yahoo, MSN, etc. You will find that magically the minds of Americans predicted the next day’s news.

This of course is not the case. The multi-trillion dollar surveillance of Americans that they told you is to ‘protect you from terrorists,’ and so on is not what they are doing. All cell phone calls (the verbal content, referred to as meta-data), emails, text, are monitored. Since the Patriot Act portion that allowed this to expire, they used the clause ‘on American soil,’ literally and monitor everything via the communications satellites. There are also an estimated 20,000 drones OVER (BUT NOT ON) US soil, monitoring verbal communications that are not electronic. This can be done via unidirectional microphone, or by bouncing a laser off your window. That includes car window.

The Welcome to FBI.gov web site collects information, but is easier to access at Mass Shootings. In 2016 there were 384 mass shootings, almost 100 of which were listed as ‘terrorist motivated.’ So, the multi-trillion dollar surveillance network is not to ‘protect you.’

The system is designed to gather information on the ‘collective thinking,’ like the Borg, of the American public, and then design tomorrow’s news and media, literally overnight, to cattle herd you into a nice neat profile of behavior and commerce.

Again, take the acid test. Look at what you have access to, AdWords, and then watch tomorrow’s headlines magically appear. At first you might think, well that’s what people are interested in so that’s what’s in the news. Then, as you look at the flow of headlines regarding international campaigns, what the President said yesterday, what the senators and congressmen are doing or being accused of, it starts to get a bit freaky. Do this for several days, and you will see.

(More at the link)

People have reason and should roundly criticize the MSM – and they are doing that since polls show: 77 percent say major news outlets report 'fake news'

Yet, people like you believe their lies about the 9/11 attacks.

Liberator nailed it - cognitive dissonance.

There's an interesting comment HERE that might interest you.

No, there isn't.

You posted a link that led to an empty server page (a 404), here at LF.

I kinda hate to admit that I do occasionally click one of your links. Too gratifying for you.     : )

"Fire"?? How can you be sure it wasn't purposely set as cover for...THE CONTROLLED DEMO??

I'm not looking for questions. Anyone can ask questions. Questions are not proof that something else happened.

What makes you think a fire was intentionally started in WTC 7 and not in any of the other buildings surrounding WTC 1 and WTC 2? Where's the evidence of your conspiracy theory?

Similarly, where's your evidence of a CONTROLLED DEMO? You got ANY proof that explosives were used?

No. All you have are questions.

You posted a link that led to an empty server page (a 404), here at LF.

Try this:

Did CIA Director William Casey really say, "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false"?

Thanks...

Watch the key words that are floating to the top. Then, look at tomorrow morning’s headlines in Google, Yahoo, MSN, etc. You will find that magically the minds of Americans predicted the next day’s news.

Part of their simple programming. It's too easy for them. We are sheep led to the slaughter.

The evidence from both perspectives of argument of exactly what hit the Pentagram is circumstantial.

Where's the evidence from your perspective of argument that something other than a 757 hit the Pentagon? You got none.

"Your side cannot possibly cite any "evidence" that a 757 was actually what hit this building"

You mean other than the flight data recorder, the cockpit voice recorder, 757 landing gear, and personal effects from those on the plane?

“Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize, ignore and even deny anything that doesn’t fit in with the core belief.”

- Frantz Fanon

Bears repeating.

There's an interesting comment HERE that might interest you.

No, there isn't.

You posted a link that led to an empty server page (a 404), here at LF.

Looking closer, you included a link to the intended page but failed to include a title for the link so it showed nothing at all. Then you inserted a blank link that resolves to the /URL page here at LF. IOW, an empty 404 page.

Here is your intended link:

Quora: Did CIA Director William Casey really say, "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false"?

I kinda hate to admit that I do occasionally click one of your links. Too gratifying for you to know that I read your posts, let alone inspect your HTML closely enough to detect your posting methodology. I hate the idea that you're sitting there, getting all puffed up with gratification that one of your posts was closely inspected.     : )

You posted a link that led to an empty server page (a 404), here at LF.

Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa

When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief ...

Where's that evidence? You've presented none.

What makes you think a fire was intentionally started in WTC 7 and not in any of the other buildings surrounding WTC 1 and WTC 2? Where's the evidence of your conspiracy theory?

First of all, your original question was with respect to "Building 7."

I answered you.

I'll also repeat THIS:

A building (nevermind THREE) does NOT fall into its footprint UNLESS it has been carefully and methodically rigged to do so. That also takes a lot more time than a few hours.

"Evidence"? That would be Building 7 and the admission that IT was pulled; WTC 1 and 2 FELL IN THE EXACT SAME MANNER.

Coincidence?

Me: "When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief ..."

You: "Where's that evidence? You've presented none."

Checkmate.

Where's the evidence from your perspective of argument that something other than a 757 hit the Pentagon? You got none.

I'll repeat this point; ALL the evidence from both sides of the argument are CIRCUMSTANTIAL.

The side that supports a 757 hitting the Pentagram is weak. Especially given ALL video is either confiscated OR buried. There is not a single frame or photo OR video on the planet that shows a plane hitting the pentagram. Can you explain why that is?

Can you explain why the hole that was created was a MUCH smaller width than the fuselage of that supposed pane?

Can you explain the coincidence that the day before 911, Rumsfeld revealed that $2 tril was "missing"?

Can you explain why the GAO that made that determination was the part of the Pentagram that was hit?

Thanks.

...the flight data recorder, the cockpit voice recorder, 757 landing gear, and personal effects from those on the plane?

1) The flight data recorder. Did YOU hear the contents?
2) The cockpit recorder. (see above)
3) 757 landing gear. (but no wings, fusilage, etc.)
4) personal effects from those on the plane (you mean the strewn debris?)

THAT'S the extent of your "evidence"?? A Hollywood set of obvious props and crime scene that's been tampered with and restricted from scrutiny??

Nope.

First of all, your original question was with respect to "Building 7."

Right. The building that was coincidentally hit by debris from WTC 1, starting the fires.

You're saying that people knew ahead of time that debris would hit WTC 7, so they planted explosives in that building (and no other buildings) and started a fire when WTC 1 fell. Then, while everyone in the world was watching and recording, they triggered explosives to bring down an empty building that was going to collapse anyways.

That's your conspiracy theory and and and you have zero proof.

"A building (nevermind THREE) does NOT fall into its footprint UNLESS it has been carefully and methodically rigged to do so."

These did. Where's your proof that explosives were used?

Checkmate.

Bullshit. You have no contrary evidence.

Can you explain why the hole that was created was a MUCH smaller width than the fuselage of that supposed pane?

Because the hole was created by the landing gear, not the fuselage.

"Can you e yo you e you e you explain the coincidence that the day before 911, Rumsfeld revealed that $2 tril was "missing"?"

He didn't say it was missing. He said, "According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions." He meant that the DoD systems were so out of date and not compatible with each other that they can't track (by computer) transactions across departments.

Your turn. If a 757 didn't hit the Pentagon, what did? And what makes you say that?

"A building (nevermind THREE) does NOT fall into its footprint UNLESS it has been carefully and methodically rigged to do so."

The Official Story of the Collapse of WTC Building 7 Lies in Ruins

A research team at the University of Alaska’s Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering, led by Dr. Leroy Hulsey, Dr. Zhili Quan, and Professor Feng Xiao, Department of Civil Engineering, Nanjing University of Science and Technology, released on September 3, 2019, for public comment their findings from a four-year study of the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 on September 11, 2001. This is the first scientific investigation of the collapse of the building. Here is the conclusion:

“The principal conclusion of our study is that fire did not cause the collapse of WTC 7 on 9/11, contrary to the conclusions of NIST and private engineering firms that studied the collapse. The secondary conclusion of our study is that the collapse of WTC 7 was a global failure involving the near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building.”

Notice three things: (1) it has taken 18 years to get a real investigation of the destruction of a building blamed on Muslim terrorists, (2) the only way “near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building” can occur is through controlled demolition, and (3) this remarkable finding is not reported in the presstitute media.

In other words, the study is assigned to the Memory Hole. This is the way The Matrix operates. This is why you need this website. The only purpose of print and TV news is to program you so that you insouciantly go along with the agendas of those who rule you. Those who sit in front of TV news, listen to NPR, or read newspapers are programmed to be mindless automatons.

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This was a 4-Year study.

The NIST investigation was what, a couple of days at best?

The building [7] that was coincidentally hit by debris from WTC 1, starting the fires.

QUITE the coincidence.

You're saying that people knew ahead of time that debris would hit WTC 7, so they planted explosives in that building (and no other buildings) and started a fire when WTC 1 fell. Then, while everyone in the world was watching and recording, they triggered explosives to bring down an empty building that was going to collapse anyways.

Your first assumption is dismissed for insufficient evidence.

HERE is what others have connected the dots and figured out (and I agree):

ALL THREE were rigged with demo explosives in advance.

This hasn't always been my position, but the evidence is convincing.

If you want the details, do you own research.

the hole was created by the landing gear, not the fuselage.

HUH?? Dismissed for HIGHLY insufficient evidence.

He didn't say it was missing. He said, "According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions."

SAME THING.

Let's not play semantic games. Rumsfeld was crystal clear.

Your turn. If a 757 didn't hit the Pentagon, what did? And what makes you say that?

You have still not provided any evidence that any "plane" hit the Pentagram. NONE.

My explanation is already submitted.

The secondary conclusion of our study is that the collapse of WTC 7 was a global failure involving the near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building ...

… caused by … what? Faulty construction? Rust? Rats?

They studied this for four years. So what caused the "global failure involving the near- simultaneous failure of every column in the building" and where's their proof?

Nothing.

You have still not provided any evidence that any "plane" hit the Pentagram. NONE.

So? I'm merely asking you what DID hit the Pentagon?

Notice three things:

(1) it has taken 18 years to get a real investigation of the destruction of a building blamed on Muslim terrorists,

(2) the only way “near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building” can occur is through controlled demolition, and

(3) this remarkable finding is not reported in the presstitute media.

Staggering. AND true.

In other words, the study is assigned to the Memory Hole. This is the way The Matrix operates...

The only purpose of print and TV news is to program you so that you insouciantly go along with the agendas of those who rule you. Those who sit in front of TV news, listen to NPR, or read newspapers are programmed to be mindless automatons.

+2,300,000,000,000

;-)

I'm merely asking you what DID hit the Pentagon?

We have no evidence exactly what it was; We can only speculate.

But we do know what it was NOT. (a problem that can easily be sorted out by the release of countless video under lock & key.)

ALL THREE were rigged with demo explosives in advance.

But how did they know debris was going to hit WTC 7?

Let's say WTC 1 and WTC 2 collapsed and nothing hit WTC 7. How would you explain the collapse of WTC 7? Or are you saying the bad guys would go in and remove thousands of pounds of explosives?

This was a 4-Year study.

The NIST investigation was what, a couple of days at best?

Unbelievable, ain't it?

Maybe it would be embraced by Congress, MSM and the public if that same little 13 year old girl who just presented her "Global Warming" case presented THIS study.

We have no evidence exactly what it was

But you know for sure it was NOT a 757 because shut up.

How did they know debris was going to hit WTC 7?

Debris hit everything within blocks.

As to your other questions, they have already been addressed; There's no need to keep chasing our tail here. This is obviously a very dark chapter of history.

I'm merely asking you what DID hit the Pentagon?

We have no evidence exactly what it was; We can only speculate.

But we do know what it was NOT. (a problem that can easily be sorted out by the release of countless video under lock & key.)

One reason for skepticism about the Pentagon plane is that the pilot, Hani Hanjour barely passed flight school. He was completely incompetent.

Al Qaeda’s Top Gun

In early 2001, he started training on a Boeing 737 simulator at Pan Am International Flight Academy in Mesa. An instructor there found his work well below standard and discouraged him from continuing.

Hani Hanjour was in reality such a horrible pilot that he had trouble handling a light single-engine aircraft and even just one month before the attacks was rejected at two different schools because he was judged too incompetent to rent a plane and fly solo.

Yet - a poor pilot was able to maneuver the plane in a downward spiral, turning almost a complete circle and dropping the last 7,000 feet in two-and-a-half minutes?

A pilot with a major carrier for over 30 years told CNN that “the hijackers must have been extremely knowledgeable and capable aviators”.[8] An air traffic controller from Dulles International Airport told ABC News, “The speed, the maneuverability, the way that he turned, we all thought in the radar room, all of us experienced air traffic controllers, that that was a military plane. You don’t fly a 757 in that manner. It’s unsafe.”[9]

CBS News suggested that according to its sources, Flight 77, “flying at more than 400 mph, was too fast and too high when it neared the Pentagon at 9:35. The hijacker-pilots were then forced to execute a difficult high-speed descending turn. Radar shows Flight 77 did a downward spiral, turning almost a complete circle and dropping the last 7,000 feet in two-and-a-half minutes. The steep turn was so smooth, the sources say, it’s clear there was no fight for control going on. And the complex maneuver suggests the hijackers had better flying skills than many investigators first believed. The jetliner disappeared from radar at 9:37 and less than a minute later it clipped the tops of street lights and plowed into the Pentagon at 460 mph.”[10]

The Washington Post similarly noted that the plane “was flown with extraordinary skill, making it highly likely that a trained pilot was at the helm”. Hanjour was so skilled, in fact, that “just as the plane seemed to be on a suicide mission into the White House, the unidentified pilot” – later identified as Hanjour – “executed a pivot so tight it reminded observers of a fighter jet maneuver.”[11] The Post reported in another article that “After the attacks … aviation experts concluded that the final maneuvers of American Airlines Flight 77 – a tight turn followed by a steep, accurate descent into the Pentagon – was the work of ‘a great talent … virtually a textbook turn and landing,’”.[12]

Hani Hanjour was in reality such a horrible pilot that he had trouble handling a light single-engine aircraft...

Yet - a poor pilot was able to maneuver the plane in a downward spiral, turning almost a complete circle and dropping the last 7,000 feet in two-and-a-half minutes?

No way. /Common sense.

This is only one of countless laughable BS stories sold to the public in support of this dastardly hoax.

“The principal conclusion of our study is that fire did not cause the collapse of WTC 7 on 9/11, contrary to the conclusions of NIST and private engineering firms that studied the collapse. The secondary conclusion of our study is that the collapse of WTC 7 was a global failure involving the near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building.”

One reason for skepticism about the Pentagon plane is that the pilot, Hani Hanjour barely passed flight school. He was completely incompetent.

Nope. Flew that puppy right into the Pentagon.

Yet - a poor pilot was able to maneuver the plane in a downward spiral, turning almost a complete circle and dropping the last 7,000 feet in two-and-a-half minutes?

Yep. Right there on the Flight Data Recorder.