New York, NY In 2015, TFTP reported on a ruling by the Fifth Circuit US Court of Appeals that said it is suspicious for a vehicle to have air fresheners, rosaries, or pro-police bumper stickers and therefore justifies probable cause for a stop.
The ruling stems from a 2011 Texas court case in which a couple was pulled over for having rosaries hanging from the rearview mirror, as well as a few air fresheners, and a DARE sticker on the back of the vehicle.
Nohemi Pena-Gonzalez was pulled over by Police Officer Mike Tamez when she was driving just 2 MPH over the speed limit. The officer did not pull her over because she was speeding, but because he suspected that she was trafficking drugs, and found the contents of her vehicle and the sticker to be suspicious.
Eventually, the officer questioned her husband, Ruben Pena-Gonzalez, who agreed to allow the officer search to their vehicle. The officer did not find any drugs, but did find a large sum of cash that he confiscated, and then sent Ruben Pena-Gonzalez to jail.
In 2015, the case was taken to the Court of Appeals, where it was decided that Officer Tamez had reasonable suspicion to detain the family and ask to search their vehicle.
The court wrote in its decision that
We do have concerns that classifying pro-law enforcement and anti-drug stickers or certain religious imagery as indicators of criminal activity risks putting drivers in a classic heads I win, tails you lose position. But we need not decide whether these items alone, or in combination with one another, amount to reasonable suspicion because we find the more suspicious evidence to be the array of air fresheners and inconsistencies in the drivers responses to the officers basic questions. We have long recognized that the presence of air fresheners, let alone four of them placed throughout an SUV, suggests a desire to mask the odor of contraband.
This ruling upholds the idea that police officers can profile and detain people who arent actually committing any crimes.
As the following case illustrates, this tactic of profiling and harassing is still being carried out today and used to terrorize innocent people.
On Fathers Day, instead of spending time with his son, Sam Detroit was kidnapped and locked in a cage. He had done nothing wrong, had harmed no one and was simply dropping his friend off at work, when he was surrounded by a dozen cops who then arrested him over an air freshener.
In an exclusive interview, Detroit told the Free Thought Project that he was parked in his car, waiting for his friend to pick up his paycheck from work when he noticed police officers from the 120th precinct start to surround him.
They walked up to my car and ask for me to identify myself and I asked why?' Detroit said.
Detroit, who tells TFTP that he actually passed the test to become a cop in New York but decided against it, asked once more, why they wanted his ID.
When he asked for a third time why they wanted to ID him, the cops looked inside his vehicle and claimed that his air freshener gave them probable cause.
At this point, there are more than a dozen cops surrounding this innocent man and the only reason they can tell him they are there is because he has an air freshener.
As Detroits friends question this ridiculous harassment and detainment over an air freshener, police then move in and arrest Detroit.
He would spend Fathers Day away from his son locked in a cage for an air freshener.
Detroit says he was charged with interfering with a police investigation and refusing to identify.
He tells us that police also drove off in his vehicle and illegally searched it.
TFTP contacted the 120th precinct of the NYPD but they did not give us any information on the arrest.
Detroit said that when he saw the judge the next day and told him what happened, the judge laughed and said let this man go.'
After he got out, Detroit found out that police had profiled him, claiming he fit the description of a suspect. However, because he was not the suspect, they arrested him over an air freshener.
Detroit says he has a court date on July 15th and plans on fighting the charges. If there is any semblance of justice left in the system, he should have no problem beating them.
Time after time, we hear from the apologist crowd that if you dont break the law, you have nothing to worry about. And, time after time, instances like this prove the utter ridiculousness of that claim.
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Time after time, we hear from the apologist crowd that if you dont break the law, you have nothing to worry about. And, time after time, instances like this prove the utter ridiculousness of that claim.
#1: misterwhite To: Deckard (#0)
Really? Three times? How about, "ID? Sure. Here's my driver's license."
Now, certainly he has the right to be an asshole. Certainly he can refuse if he wants to. But then don't bitch about what happens then.
misterwhite posted on 2019-06-22 12:12:06 Reply Private Reply
#2: randge To: misterwhite (#1)
And give us probable cause.
That would be too easy.
randge posted on 2019-06-22 19:13:17 Reply Private Reply
#3: misterwhite To: randge (#2)
You don't need probable cause to ask for an ID -- simply reasonable suspicion.
misterwhite posted on 2019-06-23 09:03:09 Reply Private Reply
#4: randge To: misterwhite (#3)
De cops ain't had dat.
randge posted on 2019-06-23 10:51:37 Reply Private Reply
#5: misterwhite To: randge (#4)
He matched the description of a man the police were looking for. Had he provided his ID, the cops would have realized their mistake and let him go.
misterwhite posted on 2019-06-23 11:30:24 Reply Private Reply
#6: randge To: misterwhite (#5)
That is reasomable.
"When he asked for a third time why they wanted to ID him, the cops looked inside his vehicle and claimed that his air freshener gave them probable cause."
That is unreasomable.
It is generally better to be honest. In the old days when I was in more of a camping/hiking mode and on the way back from Canada, I had the US border guys tearing up my car and asking me to disrobe because an agent said he "saw marijuana seeds" on the floor of my back seat. Let's just disregard the fact that the floor was obstructed by a large air mattress.
The customs men spent ninety minutes turning me and my old Chevy upside down. Of course they found nada. Maybe the border agent did like the look of my hoopty. Still pisses me off to think about it.
I appreciate the job these guys do, but like I say, it's always better to honest.
randge posted on 2019-06-23 14:07:20 Reply Private Reply
#7: nolu chan To: randge, Deckard, misterwhite (#6)
https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=59247&Disp=0
An air freshener used in a manner that violated New York law.
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He did break the law. NYCL, VAT § 375, Subparagraph 30. It is useful to determine what the law is before relying upon one's ignorant, mistaken beliefs.
Time after time, Matt Agorist reports FAKE NEWS.
Dumb shit.
Let this man go. Free at last, free at last, good God almighty, free at last.
Be back on the 15th to answer to the charges.
Non-requirement to identify only applies when there is no reasonable suspicion, and no arrest. Here there was proof beyond a reasonable doubt that a law was violated, and an arrest, and charges filed, and the court required dirtbag to answer to those charges.
Provision of identity is required in all cases where the dirtbag is arrested.
If the driver of a vehicle is arrested, the vehicle is subject to a search.
The cops had effing proof beyond an effing reasonable doubt that an effing offense had been committed, was being committed, and would continue to be committed. As the dirtbag refused to provide ID, an arrest was required. A dirtbag may be kept in custody until his identity is verified. Citations are not issued anonymously.
"Sam Detroit" should know the law before relying upon dumb, stupid, ignorant misbeliefs.
De popo haz dat.
The cops correctly cited a violation of New York State law. As Dindu refused to provide ID, his arrest was required, and the search of the vehicle was lawful pursuant thereto.
https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/vehicle-and-traffic-law/vat-sect-375.html
New York Consolidated Laws, Vehicle and Traffic Law
VAT § 375. Equipment
Subparagraph 30.
https://www.nyclu.org/en/know-your-rights/what-do-if-youre-stopped-police
New York Civil Liberties Union
https://www.nyclu.org/en/publications/column-showing-id-nypd-our-times
https://www.wivb.com/news/local-news/got-a-hanging-air-freshener-in-your-car-you-could-get-arrested/1108525161
https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/CPL/140.10
New York Consolidated laws, Criminal Procedure
https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/citizen-journalism/watch-12-nypd-cops-swarm-man-who-fit-description-arrest-him-for-air-freshener-lBKPONLVfEWgsHcxGauWVw/
nolu chan posted on 2019-06-23 15:30:01 Reply Private Reply
#8: randge To: nolu chan (#7)
randge posted on 2019-06-26 13:34:19 Reply Private Reply