Facing scrutiny for allowing anti-vaccine lies and conspiracy theories to fester and spread on its pages, Facebook announced Thursday a set of steps it will take to rid its platform of misinformationwhich has seemingly become even weirder and more idiotic recently. The move follows a letter sent to Facebook from Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) last month, raising concerns that anti-vaccine information spread on the site could corrupt anxious parents views of safe, life-saving immunizations. Schiff also questioned the popular social media site about accepting payments from anti-vaccine advertisements. Facebook wasnt the only media giant questioned; Schiff sent a similar letter to Google, too, raising concerns about content on YouTube specifically. Still, Facebook has taken center stage on the issue. In a Senate hearing last week exploring the rise of misinformation about vaccines (titled Vaccines Save Lives), a now-high-profile Ohio teenager made a point to single out the site. Ethan Lindenberger, the 18-year-old who famously got himself vaccinated despite his mother being fiercely against vaccines, said his mothers false beliefs came from one place: Facebook. When a Senator asked Lindenberger where he got his information on vaccines, Lindenberger, chuckling, responded, not Facebook. From CDC, World Health Organization, scientific journals accredited sources, he added. With the steps outlined Thursday, Facebook aims to inject some of those credible sources into its platform. Broadly, the social media giant will try to boost the profile of accurate, authoritative information on vaccines while thwarting the spread of pre-identified vaccine misinformation in news feeds and recommendations. It will also boot ads with that misinformation. To identify just what is false and what is credible, Facebook said it will rely on the World Health Organization and the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to pick out what it referred to as vaccine hoaxes. If these vaccine hoaxes appear on Facebook, we will take action against them, the company said. It offered an example of planned actions, saying that if a group or Page admin posts this vaccine misinformation, we will exclude the entire group or Page from recommendations, reduce these groups and Pages' distribution in News Feed and Search, and reject ads with this misinformation. Morphing mythsThe success of the stated plan may hinge on whether the World Health Organization and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention can keep up with the ever-shifting conspiracy theories and bunkum related to vaccines. The noxious yet established falsehood that vaccines or vaccine components can cause autism, for instance, has been widely debunked. But others are burgeoning and may be hard to head off. For instance, there's the myth that vaccines are cash cows for Big Pharma (they make relatively little revenue), which is secretly behind pro-vaccine messages (theyre not; public health experts are). More recently, a theme that has been volleyed by anti-vaccine advocates is that getting measles is somehow good for you and could prevent cancer. Both are completely wrong. Measles is a serious illness that can cause severe disabilities in children, including deafness and intellectual disabilities. It is also deadly. An ongoing measles outbreak in Madagascar, for instance, has killed nearly 1,000 children. Being dead isnt good for you. The idea circulating that measles can prevent cancer may stem from a misunderstanding of studies that used bioengineered versions of the virus to deliver cancer therapies. But these are not the viruses that circulate during outbreaks. There is no credible evidence to suggest that previous measles infections will protect a person from cancers. Last, in an even more idiotic turn, a Texas lawmaker argued that he was not worried about measles because, in the US, we have antibiotics and that kind of stuff. Antibiotics only treat bacterial infections. Measles is caused by a virus. Moreover, there is no specific antiviral treatment for measles. Due in large part to this kind of misinformation spreading, the US is now battling six separate measles outbreaks and has confirmed cases in 11 states so far this year. Amid an outbreak in Washington state, more than 800 potentially exposed children have been barred from schools. |
As anti-vax movement gets weirder - and dumber - Facebook announces crackdown
| Source: | ArsTechnica |
| Published: | Mar 11, 2019 |
| Author: | Beth Mole |
| Post Date: | 2019-03-11 10:02:49 by Tooconservative |
| Views: | 19060 |
#10: Liberator To: Tooconservative, Pinguinite, Deckard (#0)
Oh, the irony. The psychological techniques used by this site, this Pro-Vax advocacy and its shills are pure ALINSKY: "Accuse your opponents of what YOU are doing.")
This entire Vax Apologist Crusade is misinformation, mis-direction, propaganda and...drum-roll........LIES.
ALL of ANY outbreak of any disease in the USA are DUE FULLY to...irresponsible, agenda-driven US Government policies that have allowed the un-abated, un-regulated invasion of Third Worlders into the USA IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Simple common sense alone connects the dots; Third Worlder illegal invaders enter the USA with a lack of hygiene, along with the diseases they have spread from these festering Third World environments and practices.
Liberator posted on 2019-03-11 13:29:48 Reply Private Reply
#11: Liberator To: Pinguinite, hondo68, Deckard, TooConservative, ALL (#10)
Folks, I had bookmarked THREE different vloggers and their response to the theater that was the VAX CRUSADE. The PTB have tried to make VAX a "benign" act. WHILE attempting to gaslight and caracterize all who oppose vaccinations as "misinformed" "weirdos" and "CTers."
ALL THEIR ANTI-VAX VIDS HAVE BEEN REMOVED.
So...before THIS vid is removed, please check out the action at the recent Golden Globe theater. It must be assumed THIS vid will also be bannished from public viewing.
For SOME really weird reason, vaccinations became part of the Golden Globes show. Fake doctors and nurseswere rolled ot and their gowns, and began filtering into the audience, pretending to "vaccinate" a bunch of Hollywood guests. MANY were understandably freaked out.
Liberator posted on 2019-03-11 13:51:33 Reply Private Reply
#12: Tooconservative To: Liberator (#9)
Yep, it's gonna work.
The anti-vaxxers have gone way too far. This time, they'll be facing law enforcement and energized legislators and public health officials.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-11 13:51:39 Reply Private Reply
#13: IbJensen To: Tooconservative (#0)
IbJensen posted on 2019-03-11 14:17:26 Reply Private Reply
#14: Hondo68 To: Gatlin, vaccine addict, Pinguinite, Liberator (#8)
It's down NOT due to vaccines, but to improved sanitation, clean water, less vaccinations, and a better diet.
Quit shooting up Big Pharma drugs, and try a healthy lifestyle.
ur an addict.
Hondo68 posted on 2019-03-11 14:21:15 Reply Private Reply
#15: Liberator To: Tooconservative (#12)
I what way? By opposing "Papal" decrees of unsafe, unnecessary injection of lethal material? By refusing to yield to the violation of personal sovereigny by coercion? By opposing and rejecting the lies of a fascist CDC (now backed up by the same weaponized FB, Twitter and G00gle who've been censoring and shutting down conservatives??
Who's side are you on, anyway?
This time, they'll be facing law enforcement and energized legislators and public health officials.
Nevermind. You just answered that question. IN SPADES.
Liberator posted on 2019-03-11 14:27:45 Reply Private Reply
#16: Liberator To: IbJensen (#13)
"The kid" supposedly "owns it; But you can bet the house that he's partnered with (and is minotitah-"owner" with elements of the NWO-Elites. No way were the world's globalists going to allow ONE man to control such a great propaganda weapon.
They MUST control the narrative.
FB isn't the only danger; Twitter and YouTube along with FB are ALL coincidentally and simultaneous censoring and shutting down opposition to the policies enforced and advocated by Globalist Establishment's cabal of population-cullers. (Yes, like the Time-Bombs call, "VACCINATION.")
Liberator posted on 2019-03-11 14:33:06 Reply Private Reply
#17: Liberator To: hondo68 (#14)
True dat.
But moreover, WHY should we even believe a single word of the discredited a globalist-agenda NWO org like the World Health Organization??
Liberator posted on 2019-03-11 14:35:24 Reply Private Reply
#18: Liberator To: hondo68, IbJensen (#14)
Liberator posted on 2019-03-11 14:37:19 Reply Private Reply
#19: Hondo68 To: Liberator (#16)
I'll add Google to that. There's a lot of taxpayer money going to all of the above, FBI, CIA, DHS, foundations, think tanks, etc, and big stupid government controlling the dumbed down public school, vaccinated & indoctrinated sheeple voters via media disinfo talking heads propaganda & partisan fake "alternative media", .
After all that, it's tough for the dazed & confused sheeple to even find the polling place and chose between the two preselected D&R party candidates.
Little hope that they'll write in someone that they actually like, who might do a good job, or vote "third" (really second) party.
Hondo68 posted on 2019-03-11 15:06:16 Reply Private Reply
#20: Liberator To: hondo68, Deckard, Pinguinite, IbJensen, nolu chan (#19)
It is essential that the Globalist One World Gummint puppetmeisters keep the sheeple in the dark. ZERO light preferably.
From K-College, childrens' critical thinking skills are quashed. The elites MUST maintain control and the narrative. Maintaining ignorance is of course the best way to acheive this (besides the outright current criminalization of mere opinion and gaslighting strategy we see today. What we are now witnessing is institutional violations of the 1A (which is in dire jeopardy of losing.)
The PTB policies and agenda are specifically about blatant misdirection or elimination of the public's right and ability to deeply scrutinize and investigate any given "Official Report" or version of "truth."
There's a lot of taxpayer money going to all of the above, FBI, CIA, DHS, foundations, think tanks, etc, and big stupid government controlling the dumbed down public school, vaccinated & indoctrinated sheeple voters via media disinfo talking heads propaganda & partisan fake "alternative media."
Well deconstructed; Hear ya on every single word and equation and plan you've just connected.
Now that many are started to be awakened via the above media, the elites are panicking. They ordered FB, G00gle, YT and Twitter to start taking down what's been exposed and its vloggers and "Truther" sites ghost-banned or suspended for bogus "Violations of Terms of Us". Once we see talk of criminalizing free speech and truth, they and we know the jig is up. The One World Gummint globalists (or Luciferian elites) cannot afford to have ANY of the truths go viral.
Especially at YouTube are many well-informed communicators who have been extremely effective at exposing the entire "Beast System", their indoctrination and programming -- along with the elites imminent plans to criminalize the Truth.
So again -- YT is purging the site like crazy. And YT, FB, Twitter ALL grooming mobs of programmed TROLLS and paid shill to counter the truth. We must access this stuff before it's removed totally. And again to repeat -- a number of vids produced by vloggers who reported on the whole VAX theater by Hollywood and TV...ARE NOW PURGED.
IF you notice, the PTB biggest "NO-GO!" taboo subjects at YT etal are:
1) 9/11
2) 0bama's BC
3) PizzaGate
4) The Vegas Slaughter
5) Newtown
These are why they had to eliminate and neuter Alex Jones.
Liberator posted on 2019-03-11 16:00:31 Reply Private Reply
#21: Liberator To: hondo68 (#19)
Hondo, the (D) party is already well-absorbed and fully co-opted.
As to the GOP, its party "leadership," aka McTurtle and Ryan (as well as his replacement, McCarthy, and HALF of the Republican Party legislators) have been co-opted. No need to even co-opt a President who has NEVER been a member of all the usual elite "secret orgs." The reason he's been framed, set up, and an entire media gang-bangs him every day: "Trump is not one of us."
True -- The sheeple have never been more dazed and confused by a political system they've always been told and taught was a legit process. And the Courts "fair." We're reeling from the constant lies and manipulation, thanks to a Fake MSM and the usual cast of propaganda Social Media "news" outlets and...fake Twitter opinions.
Now that the Easter Bunny has been exposed, they need to change ALL the rules after the next (fake) election. Just what those new "rules" aka "laws" will be...will NOT be good.
Liberator posted on 2019-03-11 16:09:57 Reply Private Reply
#22: jeremiad To: Tooconservative (#1)
jeremiad posted on 2019-03-11 17:47:06 Reply Private Reply
#23: Hondo68 To: jeremiad, TooConstipated (#22)
+1
He's been around a while, and starts to sound more like Thomas Jefferson when there's a Dem President.
Partisan hack, IMO.
Hondo68 posted on 2019-03-11 19:38:12 Reply Private Reply
#24: GrandIsland To: jeremiad (#22)
Get back on your lithium... you wont hear the evil government voices in your head any longer.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-03-11 20:03:57 Reply Private Reply
#25: Gatlin To: jeremiad, Tooconservative (#22)
This causes great laughter in those of use who know Tooconservative well because of the absurdity and provokingly deserving derision in your unfounded charge.
Gatlin posted on 2019-03-11 20:27:46 Reply Private Reply
#26: Pinguinite To: Tooconservative (#5)
You sound rather dismissive of the overwhelming injury that at least a few families have suffered because of vaccines.
Then why wouldn't the families such as the one I cited NOT have been informed about the contaminated one their kids received? What was the motivation? Or was it simply incompetence?
Pinguinite posted on 2019-03-11 22:56:38 Reply Private Reply
#27: Pinguinite To: Liberator (#9)
The implicit but undeniable message in their proposed censorship is that Freedom of Speech has run its course and should no longer be considered a Constitutionally Protected Right. It is instead relegated to a bygone era because more harm is done to society when it is permitted in the digital age.
According to Facebook, people are officially too stupid to hear alternative viewpoints.
Pinguinite posted on 2019-03-11 23:01:17 Reply Private Reply
#28: Hondo68 To: Pinguinite, snowflakes (#27)
There are some that are too stupid to consider alternative viewpoints, but thank God there's only a few.
We all know who they (snowflakes) are, so I won't bother to ping them individually.
Hondo68 posted on 2019-03-11 23:11:49 Reply Private Reply
#29: Tooconservative To: Pinguinite (#26)
Probably because no one advertises information that will get their asses sued off in court and subject them to hundreds of thousands in court costs and settlements.
No one likes to be sued.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-11 23:22:33 Reply Private Reply
#30: Tooconservative To: jeremiad (#22)
I'm pro-public health.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-11 23:24:44 Reply Private Reply
#31: buckeroo To: Tooconservative, jeremiad (#30)
Often public health organizations use an assessment checklist that attempts to weigh risk assessment. There is little guarantee and the idea that risk [analysis] is 100% is foolish at best. Failure Mode and Effects Analysis [FMEA] is often used as a "best guess" tool.
buckeroo posted on 2019-03-11 23:41:49 Reply Private Reply
#32: WWG1WWA To: Tooconservative (#0)
WWG1WWA posted on 2019-03-12 08:16:42 Reply Private Reply
#33: WWG1WWA To: All (#32)
Peer reviewed study on fetal cell contamination with retro virus associated with autism and cancer http://www.globalresearch.ca/new-study-in-journal-o /5402912
Study documentation- Dr Deisher http://www.ms.academicjournals.org/ /article1409245960_Deis
Autism and mercury poisoning http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11339848
Hypothesis: conjugate vaccines may predispose children to autism spectrum disorders http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21993250
Rise in autism coincides with rise in vaccines http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21623535
A two-phase study evaluating the relationship between Thimerosal-containing vaccine administration and the risk for an autism spectrum disorder diagnosis in the United States http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3878266/
Elevated levels of measles antibodies in children with autism. - PubMed - NCBI Pediatr Neurol. 2003 Apr;28(4):292-4. Research Support, Non-U.S. Gov't www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
A study published in the Journal of Biomedical Sciences determined that the autoimmunity to the central nervous system may play a causal role in autism. Researchers discovered that because many autistic children harbour elevated levels of measles antibodies, they should conduct a serological study of measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) and myelin basic protein (MBP) autoantibodies. They used serum samples of 125 autistic children and 92 controlled children. Their analysis showed a significant increase in the level of MMR antibodies in autistic children. The study concludes that the autistic children had an inappropriate or abnormal antibody response to MMR. The study determined that autism could be a result from an atypical measles infection that produces neurological symptoms in some children. The source of this virus could be a variant of MV, or it could be the MMR vaccine.
WWG1WWA posted on 2019-03-12 08:22:55 Reply Private Reply
#34: WWG1WWA To: All (#33)
IMPORTANT- Package inserts:
www.immunize.org/fda/ Ingredients:
www.cdc.gov/ /do /appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf
Supreme Court declares vaccines unavoidably unsafe:www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/09-152.pdf
National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act legislation (renders manufactures 100% of any & all liability): www.congress.gov/bill/99th-congress/house- bill/5546
VAERS: vaers.hhs.gov/index National Compensation Court website (note the $4 billion paid out comes from tax payers):
www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecomp ensation/data/
Detox baths: www.howhesraised.net/ /the-beginners-guide-to-deto /
Vaccine requirements for work/school by state: www.nvic.org/Vaccine /state-vaccine-requirements.aspx
Vit K package insert: www.accessdata.fda.gov/ /2003/012223Orig1s039Lbl.pdf
People who should not be vaccinated: www.thefamilythathealstogether.com/vaccine-contrai /
Lawsuit determines that federally required safety studies have not been performed in 30 years: icandecide.org/ /ICAN-HHS-Stipulated-Order-July-2018
Fetal Cells & Vaccine Contaminates- Fetal cells: vaccineimpact.com/ /new-fetal-cell-line-from-live-a /
More on fetal cells: m.facebook.com/story.php?...402 989&id=272455363101747
20%-36% of cell lines scientists are using are contaminated or misidentified: www.statnews.com/2016/07/21/studies-wrong-cells/
Still going to vaccinate? Let's hope that you are getting real vaccines not alcohol & cat saliva! : www.wandtv.com/ /doctor-concocts-his-own-vaccines-wi
SV40 cancer virus that infected 98 million Americans in the polio vaccine: www.sv40foundation.org
Development of vaccines from aborted fetuses: cogforlife.org/ /upl /2012/04/farnsworthvaccines.pdf
DNA mutations from fetal cell lines in vaccines: soundchoice.org/research/
WALVAX2 (fetal cells): www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/ pubmed/25803132/
Ethics behind WALVAX2: ethicalresearch.net/ /the-ethics-of-the-walvax-2-ce /
PBS on how vital fetal cells are for vaccine development: www.pbs.org/ /medical-researchers-say-fetal-tissue-
Vaccine Failure & Shedding- Mumps outbreak all vaccinated: m.huffpost.c om/us/entry/us_57276bc7e4b0b49df6abc402
Measles outbreak in a fully immunized school: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/ 3821823
Measles outbreak among the vaccinated: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/ 8053748
New York measles outbreak linked to vaccinated: cid.oxfordjournals.org/conte / /2014/02/27/cid.ciu105
Vaccinated child responsible for measles outbreak in British Columbia: www.eurosurveillance.org/ /dy /EE/V18N49/art20649.pdf
Mumps outbreak in Netherlands linked to those vaccinated: wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/20/4/13-1681_article
Vaccinated student in Cali diagnosed with mumps: www.nbcsandiego.com/ /Cal-State-San-Marcos-Student-D
What's shedding? : insidevaccines.com/ /secondary-trans /comment-page-1/
98% vaccinated in pertussis outbreak: www.activistpost.com/ /98-vaccinated-involved-in-who
Vaccine-related polio outbreak in Syria 2017: www.statnews.com/2017/ /08/polio-outbreak-syria-who/
More vaccine failure pertussis outbreak in vaccinated children: wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/22/2/pdfs/15-0325.pdf
Pertussis outbreak in San Diego 621 people & 85% were vaccinated MORE vaccine failure: www.kpbs.org/ /immunized-people-getting-whooping-co /
Largest measles epidemic in North America in the last decade occurred in 2011 in Quebec where 1 & 2 dose vaccine coverage among children 3 years of age were 95%-97%: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/p ubmed/23264672/
Hib outbreak 363/443 (82%) were vaccinated: jid.oxfordjournals .org/content/188/4/481.full
The Emerging risks of live virus & virus vectored vaccines: www.nvic.org/ /Live-Virus-Vaccines-and-Vaccine-Shedd
What's shedding? : insidevaccines.com/ /secondary-trans /comment-page-1/
Small Pox vaccine sheds to infant from parent (military personnel): mobile.reuters. com/article/idUSN1744524120070518
WWG1WWA posted on 2019-03-12 08:23:21 Reply Private Reply
#35: WWG1WWA To: All (#34)
Even the CDC suggests that the vaccinated are an asymptomatic reservoir for infection: wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/6/5/00-0512_article
Mumps outbreak in Netherlands linked to those vaccinated with the MMR twice: wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/20/4/13-1681_article
Pertussis outbreak in California - "Our unvaccinated & undervaccinated population did not appear to contribute significantly to the increased rate of clinical pertussis. Surprisingly, the highest incidence of disease was among previously vaccinated children aged 8 12 years.": m.cid.oxfordjo urnals.org/content/54/12/1730.long
Measles outbreak in a fully immunized population: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/ 3821823
49% of children vaccinated STILL got pertussis: www.cdc.gov/ /pertuss-surv-report-2016-provisional.
You may be surprised to learn that fully vaccinated children & adults can still be infected, paralyzed & transmit polio. Here are two cases in particular that may grab your interest-
"Outbreak of paralytic poliomyelitis in Oman: evidence for widespread transmission among fully vaccinated children" : www.popline.org/node/315407#.d puf
"Oral polio vaccine-associated paralysis in a child despite previous immunization with inactivated vaccine." : www.virology.ws/ /oral-polio-vaccine-associated-par /
Mutant strains of polio vaccine now causing more paralysis than wild polio: www.npr.org/ /mutant-strains-of-polio-vaccine-now-c
Polio vaccine causing polio again: www.cnn.com/ / /polio-papua-new-guinea-bn/index.html
Polio vaccine contaminated with HFM virus: healthfreedomidaho.org/polio-vaccine-sheds-hfmd
Stories-
Healthy babies don't just die: m.facebook.com/story.php?...421 160&id=272455363101747
Triplets vaccine injury story: www.facebo ok.com/wearevaxxed/videos/354597028220913/
Vaccines killed her son: m.facebook.com/story.php?...377 186&id=272455363101747
A-Z injury stories: www.followingvaccinations.com /home
Her daughter was killed by her 1 y vaccines: m.facebook.com/story.php?...328 362&id=272455363101747
The story of Nikie's daughter (be prepared to cry): www.facebook.com/story.ph...352637 16989&id=1196380373
Colton's story: m.youtube.com/watch? v=CHYmb9Hwj4A&feature=share
Mom accused of shaking her baby because he suffered from encephalitis due to the DPT vaccine www.facebo ok.com/wearevaxxed/videos/505673969779884/ Jess's story: www.facebook.com/ /a.332188263574 /554864934640298/
Holly died after her kindergarten boosters: hopefromholly.com/blog/
Baby Ians story - hep B reaction: www.iansvoice.org/
Baby Aniya was vaccine overdosed: www.gofundme.com/62bev-raising-money-for-aniyas-inj
$101 million dollar settlement for an infant that suffered a severe reaction to MMR: www.mctlawyers.com/101-million-dollar-vaccine-inju /
Two, one year olds die immediately after MMR: www.msn.com/ /samoa-recalls-vaccines-af /ar-AAzOvrF
Krystles 13.5 month old son passed away the day he received his flu vaccine: www.facebo ok.com/wearevaxxed/videos/489700951377186/
SIDS- Infanrix lists SIDS as an adverse reaction. Page 12, line 250: www.fda.gov/ /vaccin /approvedproducts/ucm124514.pdf
SIDS: truthkings.com/dirty-secret-behind-infant-mortalit /# Interesting as the doctor found many SIDS cases to have inflammation &/or infection in the inner ear & the vaccine inserts I have read have listed "otitis media" (medical term for ear infection) as a possible adverse event: www.seattlechildrens.org/ /sto /listening-to-a-hunch/
Family compensated for SIDS of their 4 m/o son: ecf.cofc.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc SIDS DID NOT EXIST BEFORE THE VACCINE PROGRAM STARTED-NOW THE US HAS THE HIGHEST INFANT MORTALITY RATE IN THE INDUSTRIALIZED
WORLD TO GO WITH THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF VACCINES GIVEN!!!! thinktwice.com/sids.htm
WWG1WWA posted on 2019-03-12 08:24:50 Reply Private Reply
#36: Tooconservative To: WWG1WWA, Deckard, Gatlin, Grand Island, Pinguinite (#34)
I notice these mentions of ineffective vaccination programs and the occasional batch of vaccine, sometimes numbering millions of doses, that have to be recalled because they are contaminated in some way. They had such a recall in Europe, like Hungary, some years back. So there are such things as bad batches of vaccine, nearly always caught in time in First World countries. But no one ever promised perfect manufacturing of known vaccines. And the manufacturers have some leeway in vaccine design under FDA rules.
But one can look back and point out exactly these shortcomings for the polio vaccine. There were similar outbreaks of polio among those vaccinated, including entire schools or communities. There were also occasional bad batches of vaccine that produced some tragic results.
However, none of that changes the fact that we have virtually eradicated polio.
In 2018, there were 21 cases of wild (infected naturally) polio in Afghanistan and 12 cases in Pakistan. No other country had any reported cases of wild polio infection. There were a larger number of 103 cases of polio which is vaccine-induced polio, meaning they got the polio from being vaccinated with a polio vaccine. Again, that is the number worldwide.
So: in 2018, there were 33 cases of naturally-occurring polio worldwide - but only in Afghanistan and Pakistan - along with 103 cases of vaccine-induced polio worldwide.
This is despite the fact that there were failures in the polio vaccination programs, including bad batches of polio vaccine and places with significant outbreaks of polio in fully-vaccinated populations.
Maybe we should also talk about the success of the smallpox vaccination program. That's a disease - another scourge of humanity since ancient times - that we just don't have around any more, thanks to global vaccination programs, many of them funded by America and Europe primarily.
Tooconservative posted on 2019-03-12 10:14:08 Reply Private Reply
#37: Liberator To: Pinguinite (#27)
Yup.
The anti-free speech/censorship message from FB, Twitter, YouTube, etal is indeed implicit and undeniable. They obviously gotten a wink and clear blessing from Almighty Gummint and congress to ignore the US Constitution and permission to quash dissent of "The Official Fairy Tale."
According to Facebook, people are officially too stupid to hear alternative viewpoints.
Well, that too. The additional rest of the story:
Truth-Exposed indicts and convicts the Elites in High Places as criminals and gangstas plotting murder and mayhem against the "peons."
Liberator posted on 2019-03-12 12:34:12 Reply Private Reply
#38: Liberator To: WWG1WWA, Tooconservative, Pinguinite, Deckard, hondo68 (#34)
Nice work, WWG1WWA.
On one hand, CDC oversight on vaccination ingredients and potential dangers is...SORELY LACKING...
...YET, work/school requirements FOR multiple vaccines IS MANDATED. WHY??
Q: Why is Abortion/Baby-Murder declared a matter of "personal choice" by SCOTUS, but NOT a matter of personal choice for proven unsafe, unnecessary, under-regulated Vaccines??
Liberator posted on 2019-03-12 12:51:06 Reply Private Reply
#39: Liberator To: Tooconservative (#36)
Unfortunately, not enough are caught in time. Thus MANY lives have been ruined. Might I add, WITH IMPUNITY.
Maybe we should also talk about the success of the smallpox vaccination program.
Ok. Let's agree that Smallpox vax have indeed been successful, ergo important.
Liberator posted on 2019-03-12 12:53:51 Reply Private Reply
#40: Liberator To: Pinguinite, hondo68, Deckard, TooConservative, ALL (#11)
FOUND ONE VID that did not make it to the chopping block YET. As I'd stated yesterday, most documentation of this event has already been censored and purged. BUT NOT THIS ONE.
Check out that "Flu-Shot" vax Golden Globe stunt I'd referred to; Bwaahaa! Watching the shock of so-called celebrities as they are trapped, held captive to accept their needle was...priceless. (Winds up as a metaphor for the rest of us, doesn't it?)
**Notice how a joke was made out of this bizarre is stunt? It was used to distract from just how creepy this was.**
Since when has ANY live "entertainment" show used to promote and administer (of ALL things)...Flu Shots and VACCINATIONS?? THIS wasn't about helping us, but about INDOCTRINATION, PROGRAMMING, and FUTURE COMPLIANCE.
(*Please do listen in on this vlogger's deconstruction on not only this stunt but the ongoing dark agenda and programming/conditioning techniques of The Elites to dumb down and coerce society through pop culture.)
Liberator posted on 2019-03-12 13:25:20 Reply Private Reply
#41: Hondo68 To: Liberator, priviledged immunity for Big Pharma, we foot the bill (#38)
Why the hell should we pay to protect against drug pushers reckless business practices?
Hondo68 posted on 2019-03-12 14:55:11 Reply Private Reply
#42: WWG1WWA To: Tooconservative (#36)
I began to look into health and cures when a good friend was diagnosed with polimyositis. She is dying, painfully and slowly. I'm always on the lookout for info on that. There is no cure. Steroids extend some longevity, but do nothing to stop eventual death. She also suffers from other health issues.
I've run across material on metals & chemicals that are in almost every item we take and use, including vaccines. Soap, cleaners, food, water, shampoo, make-up, etc. Chemicals used in flooring, carpets, wood items, laminates, etc. Aluminum and boron sprayed in the air we breathe. Barium, fluoride, aluminum, mercury, etc. We can't avoid them.
My real concern is chemical and metal build-up in us over time. These are in all the things we use repeatedly and have for years and years. Why is aluminum in toothpaste? Deodorants? Hairspray?
So much metallic and chemical usage makes me wonder if it isn't responsible for so many of the diseases we see today. So many people now affected. When I was young, it was rare to hear of disease. People basically died of "old age." Now, cancer and auto-immune disease seems to affect a large portion of the people i know. It's rare to hear of a healthy senior. Why is that?
Long term studies on this are needed. It won't happen because elites want a smaller, containable population, not to mention the massive profits they enjoy at our expense.
I believe it is pervasive and intentional. I'm with Liberator on this.
WWG1WWA posted on 2019-03-13 04:19:35 Reply Private Reply
#43: WWG1WWA To: All (#42)
WWG1WWA posted on 2019-03-13 04:37:28 Reply Private Reply
#44: Liberator To: WWG1WWA (#43)
Sorry to hear of your friend's heartbreaking disease. I looked up, Polymyositis. The symptoms make it a really difficult disease. Sounds to me like severe DNA damage (job/environment.) 50 yo is relatively young. Too young.
You are a thoughtful friend. I pray that somehow a cure is discovered, or at least her degree of suffering is abated.
I hope she is a person of faith. This life is not The End.
Liberator posted on 2019-03-13 13:28:50 Reply Private Reply
#45: Liberator To: WWG1WWA (#42)
Excellent observations. And...conclusions.
Speaking of deodorant, I've noticed the content of Aluminum is up to 23% for "72 HR of Protection". There IS a price to pay for that as well as other metal-toxins that are NOT regulated and NOT reported. Hairspray? Yes, that as well.
Add the amount of ubiquitous toxic plastics and "non-stick" cookware we've all been exposed to. These unnecessary, toxic vaccinations are but insurance by te Elites to cull the world's population.
Conclusion: WE ARE INDEED BEING POISONED. PURPOSELY. BY THE ELITES.
Liberator posted on 2019-03-13 13:35:49 Reply Private Reply
#46: Liberator To: hondo68 (#41)
True. This is unbelievable.
Liberator posted on 2019-03-13 13:36:59 Reply Private Reply
#47: Liberator To: WWG1WWA, hondo68, All (#45)
From the late 1940s, through the 1950s, through every war since he Korean War, our servicemen have been exposed to high levels of nuclear and biological contamination. Our feckless "leaders" knowingly and purposely harm us with zero sense of regret, remorse, or moral conscience.
Moreover, now the general populace is being heavily sprayed under the guise of so-called "Weather Modification." Authoritahs finally admit it, but frame this Franken-Weather as benign and benevolent to mankind in that it supposedly "helps" it rain while "controlling" storms and hurricanes. The fact is THE OPPOSITE is the case.
Let's not also forget that toxic stews of aerosols, aka Chemtrails regularly infuse the air, the rain, our livestock & crops, as well as every cell in our body, severely damaging our DNA, presumably shortening our lifespan.
Murderous, baby-killing/tissue-robbing Elite ghouls do NOT want nor need tens of millions of "useless" older Baby-Boomers "stealing" *their* resources.
Liberator posted on 2019-03-13 13:53:36 Reply Private Reply
#48: A K A Stone To: Pinguinite, tooconservative (#27)
SOCIAL MEDIA On Facebook, anti-vaxxers urged a mom not to give her son Tamiflu. He later died. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/facebook-anti-vaxxers-pushed-mom- not-give-her-son-tamiflu-n1131936
A K A Stone posted on 2020-02-08 21:20:21 Reply Private Reply
#49: A K A Stone To: Liberator (#37)
If you were the dumb ass on Facebook telling this woman not go buy tamiflu. She should be able to sue you right?
A K A Stone posted on 2020-02-08 21:23:45 Reply Private Reply
#50: Pinguinite To: A K A Stone (#48)
Would I take this to mean you are in favor of bicycle helmet laws, seat belt laws and such, and subscribe to the philosophy that "if just one life is saved", that the was was worth it?
For all we know, that boy could have died with or without Tamaflu. People live or die every day based on very basic decisions such as whether to go to the store or not. So the ends does not justify the means. Information should not be censored or controlled by a mega corp that purports to know all the world's facts better than anyone else.
Pinguinite posted on 2020-02-09 20:06:36 Reply Private Reply
#51: A K A Stone To: Pinguinite (#50)
Nope that would be stupid. Apples and oranges.
But if there is a group that is anti vaxers and they proclaim themselves to be experts and are warning you it is dangerous to take tamiflu and you should give them some healthy food and the person dies. I think they should be held liable just like a doctor that said the same thing. Put them in jail for manslaughter. They are idiots and wrecklessly endanger the lives of people.
A K A Stone posted on 2020-02-09 21:13:04 Reply Private Reply
#52: Pinguinite To: A K A Stone (#51)
Do you still believe in the First Amendment? Do you believe that people do not have a right to be wrong about things?
Pinguinite posted on 2020-02-09 22:14:24 Reply Private Reply
#53: A K A Stone To: Pinguinite (#52)
Yep just like in real life. If they present them selves as "experts" and say taking what a legitimate doctor prescribed would harm them then they offer alternative treatment that leads to death. Yes they should be prosecuted for manslaughter.
A K A Stone posted on 2020-02-09 23:27:29 Reply Private Reply
#54: A K A Stone To: Pinguinite, misterwhite (#50)
I'm sure misterwhite would use that line that "people live and die every day" in response to you defending some drug criminal the cops killed because he acted stupid.
A K A Stone posted on 2020-02-09 23:29:04 Reply Private Reply
#55: A K A Stone To: Pinguinite (#52)
Yes I do. Do you think you can say anything you want? Can you say you are a doctor and tell someone to take something or do something that results in their death without consequences?
A K A Stone posted on 2020-02-09 23:31:23 Reply Private Reply
#56: A K A Stone To: Pinguinite (#52)
A K A Stone posted on 2020-02-09 23:44:10 Reply Private Reply
#57: Pinguinite To: A K A Stone (#56)
I think the statistic is there are over 100,000 patient deaths in the US each year due to mistakes made by their licensed medical professionals. If you want to prosecute non doctors for things they say on the internet, would you also support prosecuting licensed medical professionals (nurses included) for mistakes of whatever sort, including diagnosis and treatment, when their patients die as a result?
I guess we'll agree to disagree. I don't know the details of the case you cite, but people should be legally protected and free to express their opinions about what is good and bad medical treatment. I don't want to live in a world where everyone has a Constitutional right to do stupid things *without* risk of injury. I don't want to live in a world where people lack critical thinking skills because they were taught that they can believe anything anyone tells them. And that is the world you are advocating.
Pinguinite posted on 2020-02-10 01:22:00 Reply Private Reply
#58: A K A Stone To: Pinguinite (#57)
Doctors and nurses already are held accountable for stuff like that. They get sued all the time.
Maybe my answers are not correct. It isn't my absolute position that I am firm on and would never budge.
Maybe I'm wrong. I just think it is wrong for people who don't know shit to influence people in the wrong direction causing loss of life.
We can't have the answers for everything.
A K A Stone posted on 2020-02-10 07:45:52 Reply Private Reply
#59: misterwhite To: A K A Stone (#54)
Nope. I'm a big believer in "Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes".
misterwhite posted on 2020-02-10 09:38:35 Reply Private Reply