Even if Dennis Tuttle and Rhogena Nicholas were selling heroin out of their house, the government's violent response cannot be morally justified.

On Monday evening in Houston, a dozen armed men broke into the home of Dennis Tuttle and Rhogena Nicholas, a middle-aged couple who had lived in the house at 7815 Harding Street for at least two decades. The first man through the door, who was armed with a shotgun, used it to kill one of the couple's dogs. Tuttle responded to the home invasion by grabbing a revolver and shooting the man with the shotgun, who collapsed on a sofa in the living room. As Nicholas tried to disarm the intruder, his accomplices shot her. Tuttle returned fire, and by the end of the shootout he and his wife were both dead. Four of the assailants were hit by gunfire, while a fifth injured his knee.
Many people will be reassured to learn that the men who stormed into the house on Harding Street were police officers serving a drug warrant. I am not one of those people. Let me explain why, starting with some fishy aspects of the official police account and ending with the immorality of responding to peaceful, voluntary transactions with violence.
At a press conference on Monday night, Houston Police Chief Art Acevedo initially said the address of the raid, which began around 5 p.m., was in the 7800 block of Hardy Street, about 12 miles from the actual location. Acevedo said "Hardy Street" three times, and he seemed to be reading the address from a stack of papers. By the end of the press conference, he was saying "Harding Street." Which address was on the search warrant? I am waiting to hear back from the Houston Police Department on that point.*
Acevedo said the the plainclothes narcotics cops serving the warrant "announced themselves as Houston police officers while simultaneously breaching the front door." Meanwhile, uniformed officers waiting in or near a "marked police unit" outside the house "hit the siren and hit the lights so they knew that police officers were there." Maybe that's true, but it is possible that Tuttle did not hear the siren or did not connect it to the men bursting into his house. It is also plausible that the officers' announcement, which by Acevedo's account happened at the same moment that they were knocking down the door, did not register amid the noise, confusion, and shotgun blasts.
"Immediately upon breaching the door," Acevedo said on Monday, "the officers came under fire from one or two suspects inside the house." But as he revealed during a press conference the next day, it was actually the police who fired first, killing what he described as "a very large pit bull that charged at that officer."
When a reporter asked whether Tuttle and Nicholas knew they were being raided by police, Acevedo said "a lot of drug houses have surveillance systems that are better than what businesses use," because "they want to know when the cops are coming." Contrary to the implication, KHOU, the CBS affiliate in Houston, reports that the house had no security cameras, although "a house next door to the Tuttles' home does have surveillance video," and "police took that footage for evidence." Acevedo said the officers involved in the raid were not wearing body cameras.
According to Acevedo, the investigation that led to the raid "began because a neighbor had the courage to say, 'We're not going to put up [with this]. We think that they're dealing dope out of this house.'" That tip was passed on to the narcotics division, which "was able to actually determine" that "street-level narcotics dealing" of "black-tar heroin" was happening at the house. Acevedo said police "actually bought black-tar heroin at that location," although "we didn't find any" on Monday. Instead the search discovered an unspecified amount of marijuana, along with a white powder that police thought might be cocaine, or maybe fentanyl.
"The neighborhood thanked our officers because it was a drug house," Acevedo said. "They described it as a problem location." But according to the Houston Chronicle, Tuttle and Nicholas, who had been married 21 years, "kept to themselves" and "didn't seem like troublemakers." Tuttle's sister, Elizabeth Ferrari, told the paper she talked to her brother, a disabled 59-year-old Navy veteran, last week, and he seemed fine. She had never seen any indication that he and his wife were involved with drugs. "I don't buy it all," Ferrari said. "Not one hot minute." Other relatives and friends "offered similar disbelief."
KHOU reports that "Tuttle apparently had no criminal record," while the only mark against Nicholas was a misdemeanor "theft by check" charge involving $145. After she paid restitution, the charge was dismissed. One neighbor told KHOU "they never had company," while another said, "There was never traffic at that house. Never." Neighbors interviewed by the station said "they never noticed suspicious activity."
Maybe other neighbors had different impressions. Maybe Tuttle and Nicholas really were selling heroin out of their house. But if so, they were not doing anything that justified the government's violence. Since exchanging intoxicants for money violates no one's rights, the police were clearly the aggressors in this situation.
Acevedo tried to disguise that reality by arguing that the illegal drug trade drives violence in Houston. "While people think drugs is a harmless crime," he said on Monday, "the industry is not harmless, and a lot of the shootings we see in our city are drug rips or people fighting over gang territory." But crimes like those are not inherent to the drug business; they are a consequence of prohibition, which creates a black market in which participants cannot rely on legal protection and tend to resolve disputes with violence.
Acevedo used the deadly drug raid as a pretext to push gun control, saying politicians should enact policies to curtail "the proliferation of firearms in the hands of people that have no business having guns." The only specific example he mentioned was requiring background checks for anyone who buys a firearm at a gun show, whether or not the seller is a federally licensed dealer. But if the local press reports are correct, neither Tuttle nor Nicholas had a criminal record that would have disqualified them from owning guns.
In addition to the .357 Magnum revolver that Tuttle reportedly fired, police found two 12-gauge shotguns, a 20-gauge shotgun, a .22 rifle, and a Remington 700 bolt-action rifle. That's not a lot of guns for Texas, and there is nothing about this collection that suggests criminally violent intent. The fact that Tuttle used his revolver in self-defense during a home invasion hardly proves he was a public menace.
Joe Gamaldi, president of the Houston Police Officers Union, seized on the occasion to condemn people who criticize cops. "We are sick and tired of having targets on our back," he said on Monday night. "We are sick and tired of having dirtbags trying to take our lives when all we're trying to do is protect this community and protect our families. Enough is enough. And if you're the ones that are out there spreading the rhetoric that police officers are the enemy, well, just know we've all got your number now, and we're going to be keeping track of all y'all, and we're going to be making sure we're going to be holding you accountable every time you stir the pot on our police officers."
Tuttle did not go looking for cops to shoot. He was responding to a violent attack by men he may not even have recognized as police officers, men who knocked his door in, repeatedly fired a shotgun, killed his dog, and fatally shot his wife. If police officers don't want to be portrayed as the enemy, they should stop acting like the enemy.
*Update: According to a police spokeswoman, the address of the raid, 7815 Harding Street, is the same as the address on the search warrant, which she says will be publicly released soon.
Poster Comment:
Tuttle did not go looking for cops to shoot. He was responding to a violent attack by men he may not even have recognized as police officers, men who knocked his door in, repeatedly fired a shotgun, killed his dog, and fatally shot his wife.
If police officers don't want to be portrayed as the enemy, they should stop acting like the enemy.
#1: Deckard To: All (#0)
Deckard posted on 2019-02-01 07:35:04 Reply Private Reply
#2: Stoner To: Deckard (#0)
Interesting story ! If above statement is true, I am sure many of us would have defended ourselves & family members as well, with violence !!
Stoner posted on 2019-02-01 08:34:18 Reply Private Reply
#3: misterwhite To: Deckard (#0)
and ending with the immorality of responding to peaceful, voluntary, illegal transactions with violence. The author accidentally left that out.
misterwhite posted on 2019-02-01 09:01:42 Reply Private Reply
#4: Pinguinite To: misterwhite (#3)
Can you explain who the freak decided that it was a good idea to conduct an armed police raid on a home WITHOUT FREAKING UNIFORMS?
And it also appears true that the cops fired first, killing the dog.
Pinguinite posted on 2019-02-01 10:41:22 Reply Private Reply
#5: misterwhite To: Pinguinite (#4)
Then what were they wearing -- hoodies?
They announced themselves as police officers and there were uniformed officers outside in marked cars who turned on their sirens and lights.
"And it also appears true that the cops fired first, killing the dog."
They fired at the charging pit bull, not the occupants.
misterwhite posted on 2019-02-01 12:41:52 Reply Private Reply
#6: Justified To: Deckard (#0)
This sounds like the police screwed the pooch on this one.
Neighbors say this is a good couple, They have been their for along time and no hard drugs were found. Its fair for the citizen to defend itself when someone breaks in and then shoots the dog instantly. I too would have gone for my weapon and shot the first person I saw if I had done nothing really wrong in life.
You have to do some investigating before you raid peoples properties. Taking CI's word is 40/60 proposition of truth.
Justified posted on 2019-02-01 13:15:30 Reply Private Reply
#7: Pinguinite To: Justified (#6)
Any drugs found after the raid could have been planted, as the police would have a very understandable motive to do so for liability purposes. It appears this no-knock raid was based only on the word of a single witness and nothing more.
Pinguinite posted on 2019-02-01 14:39:18 Reply Private Reply
#8: Justified To: Pinguinite (#7)
Justified posted on 2019-02-01 16:00:01 Reply Private Reply
#9: Pinguinite To: misterwhite (#5)
I suppose you're right. If you are going to bust into someone's home while armed and shoot someone's dog, there's nothing wrong with cutting a few corners. Who needs stinkin' uniforms anyway? It's just a formality.
Did they? Sirens are only used when moving, not when parked. If you are doing a no knock raid, you typically don't give that kind of warning. Did they knock or just bust in?
I believe the pit bull was one of the occupants, and if someone busted into my house and shot my dog, I wouldn't exactly respond by a greeting about the weather.
Did they even have body vests on? For the cops to go busting into the home and fire weapons when the homeowner is armed all while in plain clothes is Darwin Award material.
Pinguinite posted on 2019-02-01 16:46:46 Reply Private Reply
#10: Pinguinite To: Justified (#8)
Event that may have been planted but even if not, still doesn't justify the cop stupidity and overreaction.
Pinguinite posted on 2019-02-01 16:47:55 Reply Private Reply
#11: GrandIsland To: Pinguinite (#4)
GrandIsland posted on 2019-02-01 18:39:55 Reply Private Reply
#12: GrandIsland To: Deckard (#1)
No more heroin sold by those criminal shitbirds.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-02-01 18:41:58 Reply Private Reply
#13: misterwhite To: Pinguinite (#9)
Previously, the informant said he saw a gun on the table. It was a no-knock drug drug drug raid. I would hope they were wearing body armor. Meaning they were "in uniform".
"If you are doing a no knock raid, you typically don't give that kind of warning."
I've seen no-knock videos where they did just that.
misterwhite posted on 2019-02-02 10:08:39 Reply Private Reply
#14: A K A Stone To: Deckard (#0)
Do you agree with this statement. People selling heroin don't deserve to be killed.
Because I think anyone and everyone who deals heroin should be shot in the head. All of them. No exceptions. By the police, by a neighbor or a firing squad.
If your neighbor is dealing heroin you should have a right of self defense to take them out.
A K A Stone posted on 2019-02-02 10:51:14 Reply Private Reply
#15: GrandIsland To: misterwhite (#13)
And that was obviously good intel. I mean, plenty of good honest INNOCENT folk leave shotguns on the table as decoration... or maybe its a shotgun protecting a drug factory. Something every poster here wants in their neighborhood.
Can you imagine how much more the cops would have been shot up IF they knocked nicely, announced they have a warrant and they ARE coming in. lol
GrandIsland posted on 2019-02-02 11:47:03 Reply Private Reply
#16: GrandIsland To: A K A Stone (#14)
Other than constitutional issues of due process, I agree with you.
These lazy, non working criminal shitbags dont care how they victimize those living around them. Just as long as they can live a lifestyle free from working... and roll in the dough. Thats a drug dealer. They all, mostly, collect welfare, too.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-02-02 11:50:17 Reply Private Reply
#17: misterwhite To: A K A Stone (#14)
misterwhite posted on 2019-02-02 12:39:58 Reply Private Reply
#18: Pinguinite To: misterwhite (#13)
You are pathetic.
Pinguinite posted on 2019-02-02 14:45:22 Reply Private Reply
#19: misterwhite To: Pinguinite (#18)
misterwhite posted on 2019-02-02 18:07:11 Reply Private Reply
#20: Hondo68 To: Deckard (#0)
Book 'em Danno!
Hondo68 posted on 2019-02-02 18:08:43 Reply Private Reply
#21: nolu chan To: Deckard (#0)
Houston Search Warrant, unnumbered paragraphs 4-5
Houston Search Warrant Affidavit, paragraph 5
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/29/us/houston-shooting.html
https://www.whig.com/article/20190129/AP/301299841#
Two shot in the neck, two shot in the shoulder. The consistent pattern suggests the shooter did not aim at center mass.
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/houston/article/Powder-found-in-police-raid-identified-13578839.php
nolu chan posted on 2019-02-02 18:52:57 Reply Private Reply
#22: GrandIsland To: nolu chan (#21)
Thats a buy-bust. No-knock warrant 101.
Moral of the story: If you dont want your door kicked at zero dark thirty... by guys wearing tactical gear... DONT BREAK THE FUCKING LAW.
After the police killed both of these violent shitbags, part of the evidence collected will be THE MONEY THE CI BOUGHT THE DRUGS WITH. It was photographed and serial numbers documented.
To Wit; PLENTY of pc for a no-knock.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-02-02 20:15:14 Reply Private Reply
#23: buckeroo To: GrandIsland (#22)
I had a great day in Belize today with family and here I am on the computer with young kids asking, "hey grandpa whats that guy saying?"
Can you tone down your foul, nasty language on a family channel?
buckeroo posted on 2019-02-02 21:00:45 Reply Private Reply
#24: GrandIsland To: buckeroo (#23)
Now carry on with your tribe,in that 3rd world jungle.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-02-02 21:38:53 Reply Private Reply
#25: buckeroo To: GrandIsland (#24)
ROTFL
buckeroo posted on 2019-02-02 21:57:59 Reply Private Reply
#26: GrandIsland To: buckeroo (#25)
Rolling on the dirt floor.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-02-02 22:07:26 Reply Private Reply
#27: buckeroo To: GrandIsland (#26)
In other words, you suck.
buckeroo posted on 2019-02-02 22:45:56 Reply Private Reply
#28: Pinguinite To: misterwhite (#19)
You'll stop at nothing to exonerate these guys.
Give it up.
Pinguinite posted on 2019-02-02 22:59:29 Reply Private Reply
#29: misterwhite To: nolu chan (#21)
Two possibilities. Either he was aware they were cops wearing protective vests or he was a piss-poor shot.
I'm going with the latter since a .357 hitting a protective vest will likely incapacitate the wearer.
misterwhite posted on 2019-02-03 12:03:04 Reply Private Reply
#30: misterwhite To: Pinguinite (#28)
You tell me -- you brought it up. But I'm guessing they did, given that it was a no-knock drug raid where a weapon was seen previously.
misterwhite posted on 2019-02-03 12:06:52 Reply Private Reply
#31: Pinguinite To: misterwhite (#30)
Did you know weapons are legal in the USA?
Pinguinite posted on 2019-02-03 12:43:18 Reply Private Reply
#32: misterwhite To: Pinguinite (#31)
Sure. But when those legal weapons are in a drug house where I'm conducting a no-knock raid, I'm gonna wear a vest.
Unless you're implying that legal weapons are never used against cops.
misterwhite posted on 2019-02-03 12:51:12 Reply Private Reply
#33: Justified To: All (#6)
They found small amounts of Pot and Cocaine.
Just funny to me that the neighbors did not know they were selling drugs.
Justified posted on 2019-02-06 19:15:25 Reply Private Reply
#34: GrandIsland To: misterwhite (#32)
Thats the YELLA SPIN... Paultards and MSM have AGENDAS to sell.
GrandIsland posted on 2019-02-07 00:54:20 Reply Private Reply