Current U.S. law
Citizenship in the United States is a matter of federal law, governed by the United States Constitution.
Since the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution on July 9, 1868, the citizenship of persons born in the United States has been controlled by its Citizenship Clause, which states: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."[10] Statute, by birth within U.S.
United States Federal law (8 U.S.C. § 1401) defines who is a United States citizen from birth. The following are among those listed there as persons who shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
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a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" or "
a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe" (see Indian Citizenship Act of 1924). "
a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States" "
a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person"
Elk v. Wilkins, 112 U.S. 94 (1884),[1] was a United States Supreme Court case respecting the citizenship status of Indians.
John Elk, a Winnebago Indian, was born on an Indian reservation and later resided with whites on the non-reservation US territory in Omaha, Nebraska, where he renounced his former tribal allegiance and claimed citizenship by virtue of the Citizenship Clause.[2] The case came about after Elk tried to register to vote on April 5, 1880 and was denied by Charles Wilkins, the named defendant, who was registrar of voters of the Fifth ward of the City of Omaha.
The court decided that even though Elk was born in the United States, he was not a citizen because he owed allegiance to his tribe when he was born rather than to the U.S. and therefore was not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States when he was born.
The United States Congress later enacted The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924 which established citizenship for Indians previously excluded by the US Constitution; however no subsequent Supreme Court case has reversed the majority opinion offered on Elk v. Wilkins including the detailed definitions of the terms of the 14th Amendment as written by Justice Gray. The Elk v. Wilkins opinion remains valid for interpretation of future citizenship issues regarding the 14th Amendment, but has been rendered undebatable for its application to native Indians due to the Act of Congress.
Indian Citizenship Act
The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, also known as the Snyder Act, was proposed by Representative Homer P. Snyder (R) of New York and granted full U.S. citizenship to the indigenous peoples of the United States, called "Indians" in this Act. While the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution defines as citizens any person born in the U.S. and subject to its jurisdiction, the amendment has been interpreted that the Tribes are separate Nations to which an Indian owes allegiance and therefore are not under the jurisdiction of the United States. The act was signed into law by President Calvin Coolidge on June 2, 1924. It was enacted partially in recognition of the thousands of Indians who served in the armed forces during World War I.
#5: A K A Stone To: Jameson (#4)
A K A Stone posted on 2018-11-01 12:22:18 Reply Private Reply
#6: Vicomte13 To: A K A Stone (#3)
If you play the game of legislative history, you will sink into the quicksand of the Left.
The states ratified language, not legislative history. The Congress ratified language, not the opinions of individual legislators.
Our law is, and ought to be, based on the language ratified, not based on the opinion of some individual in Congress as to what he wanted the language to mean. Congress didn't ratify him, and neither did they states. Only the language.
The disaster in what you're doing here you don't realize, because you're not a lawyer and have not studied it. The LEFT, not the Right, has used the appeal to legislative history as the basis to make so many of the decisions that you hate. The Right has clamored for years to apply the text as written.
It has been the Left wing judges who have pulled down the Congressional record and found the various things that this liberal Congressman or that liberal Senator said in a speech or wrote and had entered into the record, and clamored just as you are: "SEE, Congress INTENDED thus and so."
Democratic Congressman lard up the Congressional record with statetments and speeches and notes that state their OPINION about the law, and those MERE OPINIONS are then cited by Left wing justices to override the clear language of statutes and allow the Left wing justices to make whatever law they please, because "legislative history" shows the "intent" of Congress.
But it DOESN'T. It shows the OPINION of ONE MAN whose opinion was recorded. Congress didn't vote on that man's opinion, it voted only on the language that it passed. And we all know that Representatives and Senators vote on each bill for their own reasons.
It's a tactic of the LEFT to record opinions of individual legislators, and then have judges pull out those opinions and claim that those individual opinions were the intent of Congress.
The Right has always resisted that, insisting that what the statute says is the law.
Now, to try to get an easy win on immigration (that you will not get, because the Supreme Court will never agree with that horse-shit argument), you're ready to throw away 80 years of principles conservative resistance to allowing the opinions of individual politicians to be used by liberal judges to steamroller the language of statutes.
It's a terrible tactical choice, because it will not prevail before the justices of the Supreme Court.
Strategically, it's a disaster, because it concedes that the Left was always right in taking the opinions of some politicians, rammed into the record, and making that what the Constitution "means".
"Subject to jurisdiction" means: can the courts try you. Diplomats? No immune. So their kids aren't citizens. Indians on reservation? No. Illegals? Yes. Their kids are citizens.
If you've got to do Pickett's Charge into the guns, the Charge of the Light Brigade, just remember how that ended up for Pickett's Divison and the Light Brigade.
With the Light Brigade, the only reason any of them survived was because a French battery of guns on an adjacent hill saw what was happening and disobeyed orders to engage the Russians in direct counterbattery fire, giving the surviving Brits the chance to escape with their lives.
That's me: the French battery on the hill watching this disaster unfold, and trying to give you the cover to get out before you charge into the guns to your doom.
You cannot win this fight on this grounds. It won't work. And if it DOES work, you will have given away the farm to get an apple.
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-11-01 12:23:58 Reply Private Reply
#7: A K A Stone To: Vicomte13 (#6)
No subject to jurisdiction means if they are Americans. If they were trying to legalize foreigners they would have just left it at born here. They wouldnt have had to add the "and...". Also like I said the legislators gave their reasons and they spoke in truth.
A K A Stone posted on 2018-11-01 12:33:01 Reply Private Reply
#8: VxH To: Justified (#0)
...the one the (current) wife of the Toad Warrior was raised in by a card- carrying member of the Soviet Communist Party.
{ shrug } Maybe Baron SHOULD be deported?
VxH posted on 2018-11-01 12:38:46 Reply Private Reply
#9: nolu chan To: A K A Stone, Vicomte13 (#3)
What jurisdiction was claimed to prosecute the killer of Kate Steinle; said killer being a bona fide illegal alien?
The 14th Amendment speaks to the status of the newborn child, without respect to the parents of the child. The status of the newborn child is not affected by the parents being legal or illegal aliens.
The child, at the time of birth, is in the United States and has never been anywhere else. The child is within the jurisdiction of the United States unless he or she is the child of persons such as officially recognized foreign diplomats or visiting royalty who enjoy immunity from U.S. jurisdiction.
The ratified words of the 14th Amendment are controlling.
This was just a pre-election Trump troll.
As long as the Democrats are talking about Trump, they are not getting out any message of their own.
A SCOTUS vote would likely be 9-0 against.
The plain language meaning of the words of the 14th Amendment cannot be avoided.
nolu chan posted on 2018-11-01 12:44:24 Reply Private Reply
#10: A K A Stone To: nolu chan (#9)
A K A Stone posted on 2018-11-01 12:47:14 Reply Private Reply
#11: A K A Stone To: nolu chan (#9)
A K A Stone posted on 2018-11-01 12:49:53 Reply Private Reply
#12: A K A Stone To: nolu chan, vicomte13 (#9)
A K A Stone posted on 2018-11-01 12:56:51 Reply Private Reply
#13: nolu chan To: Vicomte13, A K A Stone (#6)
Exactly.
Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 699 (1898), Gray J.
Downes v. Bidwell, 182 US 244, 254 (1901), Brown J.United States v. Trans-Missouri Freight Association, 166 U. S. 290; 318-319, Peckham J.
United States v. St. Paul, M. & MR Co., 247 US 310, 318 (1918), Pitney, J.
Duplex Printing Press Co. v. Deering, 254 U.S. 443, 474 (1921), Pitney J.
Chrysler Corp. v. Brown, 441 US 281, 311 (1979), Rehnquist, J.
Aldridge v. Williams, 44 U.S. 9, 24 (1845), Taney CJ
Conroy v. Aniskoff, 507 US 511, 519 (1993), Scalia, J., concurringnolu chan posted on 2018-11-01 13:05:57 Reply Private Reply
#14: A K A Stone To: nolu chan (#13)
A K A Stone posted on 2018-11-01 13:10:48 Reply Private Reply
#15: nolu chan To: A K A Stone (#10)
The Constitution says "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States...."
The plain meaning of the words is clear.
nolu chan posted on 2018-11-01 13:21:49 Reply Private Reply
#16: nolu chan To: A K A Stone (#11)
My take is Trump has no desire to get slam dunked by SCOTUS.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/31/trump-congress-path-end-birthright-citizenship/
nolu chan posted on 2018-11-01 13:23:44 Reply Private Reply
#17: nolu chan To: A K A Stone, Vicomte13 (#12)
FALSE. They can be expelled. If Kate Steinle's killer had been a recognized diplomat, with diplomatic immunity, he could have been decertified, declared persona non grata and ordered to leave the country, but he could not have been prosecuted.
nolu chan posted on 2018-11-01 13:27:53 Reply Private Reply
#18: A K A Stone To: nolu chan (#15)
I honestly see it different no spin here.
A K A Stone posted on 2018-11-01 13:28:21 Reply Private Reply
#19: A K A Stone To: nolu chan (#17)
We can also change our laws anytime to strip their immunity. Correct.me if I'm wrong but I believe diplomatic immunity came after the 14th.
A K A Stone posted on 2018-11-01 13:31:31 Reply Private Reply
#20: Vicomte13 To: nolu chan (#9)
I agree.
To stop the illegal alien invasion we have to spend the money and the effort to wall and patrol the Border, and to patrol the workforce and punish businesses that hire illegals.
The easy end-run won't work. Trump has started the conversation, and will move on immigration after the election - maybe even move for a constitutional amendment. (Probably not.)
He can police the border, put the army there, throw up a wall, and heavily enforce border security. He's not going to be able to erase birth right citizenship.
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-11-01 14:17:46 Reply Private Reply
#21: Vicomte13 To: A K A Stone (#11)
He might well do that.
The decision will be either 9-0, 8-1 or maybe 7-2 against him.
Roberts, Alito and Kavanaugh will never go along with Trump on this one.
Can't say for Gorsuch. Thomas might.
But I have not observed Trump doing futile gestures. He doesn't like to lose, and he will lose this one, so I agree with Nolu Chan that he won't do it.
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-11-01 14:19:59 Reply Private Reply
#22: A K A Stone To: Vicomte13 (#21)
Truthfully you do not know that. It is your imagination. A mere thought in your head. Thoughts in your head are not the substance of the constitution.
A K A Stone posted on 2018-11-01 14:23:56 Reply Private Reply
#23: Vicomte13 To: A K A Stone (#19)
No, that's been a principle of international law, in the West anyway, since the Age of Reason at least, maybe before that.
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-11-01 14:24:44 Reply Private Reply
#24: Vicomte13 To: A K A Stone (#22)
It's not imagination. They're senior, educated jurists whose judicial philosophies are well documented, and whose conservative careers have been dedicated to really hating the very sort of wild, language-ignoring judicial activism that would be required to cut clear birth-right citizenship out of the 14th Amendment.
And they're all Catholics to boot, just not likely to lie in this particular way on this particular issue.
It's not vain imagining on my part, it is reasoned speculation from fact.
Do you know what lawyers get paid to do? This. We look at precedent. We look at the fact pattern. To the extent we can know it, we look at the judicial history of the judge or judges who will be deciding the case. We look at the language itself. And we come to a reasoned opinion as to what will probably happen in a particular case.
Our clients pay us to speculate as to what WILL happen, based on what HAS happened, what the words say, and who the judges are. That is the very essence of legal advice and the legal opinions for which clients pay tens of thousands of dollars.
The future is unknown, but the PROBABLE future is knowable by studying those things. I've made my living doing just exactly this: speculating, based on the facts, on what will happen in court and how courts will apply laws to a particular fact set.
When it comes to this sort of thing - not predicting elections, but predicting appellate decisions, I have very rarely been wrong. Obviously I have not fully researched this speculation here, but I have kept up on it over the years, and read a great deal of the argumentation. I'm professionally certain that there is no possibility whatsoever that the Supreme Court would uphold an assertion by the President that birth right citizenship does not inhere in anchor babies.
I am morally certain that, were I hired to opine on the subject, my formal research on the subject would produce precisely that result, and that my bill, probably something on the order of $12,000, would not be paid in vain by the President were he to pay it.
This one is not a close case. It's self-evidently obvious on the language of the statute.
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-11-01 14:32:46 Reply Private Reply
#25: A K A Stone To: Vicomte13 (#24)
If they are educated Jurists. They will side with the words of the 145h amendment. It was to make sure former slaves were citizens. Nothing more.
A K A Stone posted on 2018-11-01 14:36:28 Reply Private Reply
#26: A K A Stone To: Vicomte13 (#24)
Nancy Pelosi and Bernie Sanders and that Muslim cunt who organized the pussy march all agree with you.
You're wrong, i'm right. It is a fact.
A K A Stone posted on 2018-11-01 14:39:47 Reply Private Reply
#27: Vicomte13 To: A K A Stone (#25)
The words of the 14th Amendment say nothing whatever about former slaves. Not a word. They will read the language that says "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."
They will comment that illegal aliens are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States: the are subject to the laws and are tried in our courts (unlike diplomats, or reservation Indians in that day, or foreign troops occupying parts of US soil in war). And that will be that: they will uphold the 14th Amendment by striking down Trump.
At least 7 out of 9 Supreme Court Justices, and probably 9 out of 9, will agree with my professional, educated legal assessment.
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-11-01 14:41:43 Reply Private Reply
#28: A K A Stone To: Vicomte13 (#27)
They aren't subjects of this jurisdiction. They are illegally here.
Have a good day.
A K A Stone posted on 2018-11-01 14:43:55 Reply Private Reply
#29: A K A Stone To: Vicomte13 (#27)
In your imagination they will do that.
A K A Stone posted on 2018-11-01 14:44:52 Reply Private Reply
#30: Vicomte13 To: A K A Stone (#26)
There are not many of those. I graduated from top law schools in the US and France, easily passed the bar in two states, worked in the top firms, and have always been very successful in this profession.
Go find federal judges or law partners of white shoe firms who agree with you.
Now I'm hoping Trump does sign that Executive Order. Since it seems to be an open question, let's close that question.
Chief Justice Roberts and Justices Alito and Kavanaugh, at least, along with Justices Ginsburg, Breyer, Kagan and Sotomayor will all agree with me.
Thomas and Gorsuch might agree with you. But I doubt even that.
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-11-01 14:45:56 Reply Private Reply
#31: Vicomte13 To: A K A Stone (#28)
They are illegally here, and we can arrest them and try them in our courts for being so and breaking our laws. If the court can try you, you are subject to its jurisdiction. That's what "subject to jurisdiction" MEANS: it MEANS that the court has the legal power to try you.
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-11-01 14:47:08 Reply Private Reply
#32: Vicomte13 To: A K A Stone (#29)
Right now, it's in everybody's imagination that Trump will sign such an EO.
Once he does, the lower courts will swiftly block it. It will be appealed to the Supremes. I predict a 9-0 opinion. It's not a close case.
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-11-01 14:48:19 Reply Private Reply
#33: nolu chan To: A K A Stone (#19)
Wrong on all counts. Persons with recognized diplomatic immunity are not subject to our jurisdiction. If the killer of Kate Steinle were a recognized diplomat at the time, he could not have been arrested, detained, and tried for the crime, regardless of the evidence against him. The United States government could advise his government that his recognition as a diplomat was being withdrawn and he had to leave by a specified date.
Diplomatic immunity preceded the Constitution by centuries. Internationally, persons allowed in as diplomats cannot be detained or tried for alleged crimes if they enjoy a grant of immunity.
nolu chan posted on 2018-11-01 15:06:31 Reply Private Reply
#34: A K A Stone To: nolu chan (#33)
Sure they are. We can expel them from this country. So it is within our right to do that.
We can withdraw from treaties that obligate us to diplomatic immunity if we so choose.
A K A Stone posted on 2018-11-01 15:09:14 Reply Private Reply
#35: A K A Stone To: nolu chan (#33)
Ok you and Vic taught me that one. I'll give you that.
A K A Stone posted on 2018-11-01 15:09:55 Reply Private Reply
#36: A K A Stone To: nolu chan (#33)
A K A Stone posted on 2018-11-01 15:12:05 Reply Private Reply
#37: nolu chan To: A K A Stone (#18)
What Mexican are you talking about???
The 14th Applies to infant children born in the United States. If the child does not enjoy immunity from our laws, the child is a natural born United States citizen.
The United States has no subjects, but it has citizens.
nolu chan posted on 2018-11-01 15:14:06 Reply Private Reply
#38: A K A Stone To: nolu chan (#33)
nor shall any State [...] deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws".
Those don't jive with each other. How would Kate receive equal protection. She couldn't have.
If the words meant what they said there would be no diplomatic immunity without repealing the 14th.
A K A Stone posted on 2018-11-01 15:15:34 Reply Private Reply
#39: A K A Stone To: nolu chan (#37)
Mexicans who have babies are Mexicans.
Americans who have babies are Americans.
It is really that simple.
I disagree with you. I always will. There is no changing my mind on this one.
None of us is going to decide this. We will just have to wait and see.
I do respect your opinions though unlike some others here. I respect Vics as well. I just don't agree. Other constitutional experts also agree with me. As others agree with you.
A K A Stone posted on 2018-11-01 15:21:35 Reply Private Reply
#40: nolu chan To: A K A Stone, Vicomte13 (#25)
This is emphatically incorrect. The stated purpose was to take the existing common law rule and place its application beyond the control of Congress.
The common law rule of jus soli already existed in the United States, since day 1, and the 14th Amendment did not change that.
nolu chan posted on 2018-11-01 15:28:48 Reply Private Reply
#41: A K A Stone To: nolu chan (#40)
Which Senator stated that?
A K A Stone posted on 2018-11-01 15:35:45 Reply Private Reply
#42: nolu chan To: A K A Stone (#34)
And nobody would have diplomats here, and we would not have diplomats anywhere.
If we are to have their diplomats here, or our diplomats there, immunity is just part of the deal. You would essentially break off diplomatic relations with the rest of the world.
We do not expel foreign diplomats in the sense that we arrest them and put them on an outbound flight. We advise the foreign country that their diplomat is no longer welcome and they fly them out.
nolu chan posted on 2018-11-01 15:37:44 Reply Private Reply
#43: A K A Stone To: nolu chan (#42)
They are still subject to our jurisdiction. If they weren't we wouldn't be to tell them to leave. If they weren't subject... We would have to let them stay because we had no jurisdiction over them.
Diplomatic immunity should never include the right to kill our people. If they kill our people they should be punished. If a country doesn't like that deal. We can kill their country.
A K A Stone posted on 2018-11-01 15:47:24 Reply Private Reply
#44: VxH To: A K A Stone (#39)
And -- "Only Jews have the right to self-determination"
That applies to Mexican, American, and all other flavors of Goyim... especially if you happen to be Kosher meat packer illegally employing over 400 of them!
VxH posted on 2018-11-01 15:55:28 Reply Private Reply
#45: A K A Stone To: VxH (#44)
They should exple the muslims. Since they can do whatever they want right.
A K A Stone posted on 2018-11-01 16:20:45 Reply Private Reply
#46: VxH To: A K A Stone (#45)
"PRAISED BE HE WHO PERMITS THE FORBIDDEN"
www.google.com/search? q=p...s+the+forbidden+sabbatean
{ golf clap ]
VxH posted on 2018-11-01 16:33:00 Reply Private Reply
#47: Vicomte13 To: A K A Stone, Nolu Chan (#43)
Respectfully, Stone, you're misunderstanding this word.
"Jursidiction" doesn't mean "subject to power". It means subject to the rulings of a COURT. It's not about executive power, it's about judicial power, about the power of judges to judge you, as a person (in personam jurisdiction), or to issue judgment over a thing (say, a ship) (in rem jurisdiction), or to preside over a case on a specific subject matter (example: family court) (subject matter jurisdiction).
It does not refer to the police power, which is executive branch stuff. It does not refer to the power to make rules, which is legislative branch stuff. It is a very specific legal term that refers to the power of a specific court to judge a case and impose a penalty.
"JURIS" means law. "Diction" refers to speaking. Jurisdiction refers to the power of a judge to pronounce a binding decision at law. Murder is illegal in the USA and everywhere else, but US courts do not have the jurisdiction to try murder cases that happen between two regular Norwegians in Trondheim. It didn't happen on us soil (the location was not subject to US courts), it did not happen between people who could be haled before US Courts (US courts can't judge Norwegians in Norway for things that happen in Norway). The crime committed there is a crime here too, and US cops could certainly arrest the Norwegian culprit who got caught here, if there were an Interpol report or an international warrant. But the district attorney could not bring that murder case before the state court, because the crime didn't happen under US jurisdiction, and the persons involved were not subject to US law when they did it.
On the other hand, a Norwegian traveler killing another Norwegian while in a US airport CAN be tried in US court for the murder, because it occurred on US soil, and whatever happens on US soil is subject to US jurisdiction...unless it happened in the Norwegian embassy (then things get murky and there might be a fight IF Norway wasn't going to hold the killer accountable), or unless the killer was a Norwegian diplomat. Then he could be arrested, but whether or not he could be tried would depend on the terms of our agreement with Norway. Norway could waive diplomatic immunity, and then our courts could try the guy.
Jurisdiction is a legal term with a specific meaning: it refers to the authority of the courts to try a case. Illegal aliens can be tried for anything they do on US soil. Therefore, they are subject to US jurisdiction, full stop. That's what the word means. It doesn't mean subject to arrest, it means subject to trial.
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-11-01 16:45:32 Reply Private Reply
#48: CZ82 To: All (#0)
https://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage? collId=llcg&fileName=073/llcg073.db&recNum=11
"I do not propose to say anything on that subject except that the question of citizenship has been so fully discussed in this body as not to need any further elucidation in my opinion. This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the US and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the US".
"This will not of course include persons born in the US who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the US but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the US".
CZ82 posted on 2018-11-01 16:48:13 Reply Private Reply
#49: A K A Stone To: Vicomte13 (#47)
A K A Stone posted on 2018-11-01 17:01:32 Reply Private Reply
#50: VxH To: A K A Stone (#49)
Was / is that a good idea?
Why or why not.
VxH posted on 2018-11-01 17:09:51 Reply Private Reply
#51: Justified To: VxH (#8)
You are the biggest CT person on this site and that says a good deal about you.
Justified posted on 2018-11-01 18:23:19 Reply Private Reply
#52: VxH To: Justified (#51)
VxH posted on 2018-11-01 18:33:40 Reply Private Reply
#53: nolu chan To: A K A Stone, Vicomte13 (#43)
WRONG.
The law which applies to accredited diplomats is an international treaty to which the United States is a party and signatory, namely the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations of 1961, done at Vienna on 18 April 1961 and entered into force on 24 April 1964. The United States signed on 29 June 1961, and ratified on 13 November 1972.
We do not have to let them stay. See Article 9, quoted below.
When the functions of a person enjoying privileges and immunities have come to an end, such privileges and immunities shall normally cease at the moment when he leaves the country. See Article 39, quoted below.
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https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/what-is-diplomatic-immunity.html
nolu chan posted on 2018-11-01 18:57:30 Reply Private Reply
#54: nolu chan To: A K A Stone (#36)
14th Amendment, Equal Protection Clause
Immunity from criminal prosecution for diplomats is part of the supreme law of the land.
The United States government has granted immunity to diplomats. It is a Federal action, not a State action. Diplomats do not fall under the jurisdiction of any State.
nolu chan posted on 2018-11-01 19:13:54 Reply Private Reply