One of the bad things about writing an article such as this one is that no matter what position it takes, it is attacked by an army of naysayers and protesters. This may seem innocuous, but it is not. In reality, it detracts from attempting to make a productive point of discussion. Their objective is to foster argument and conflict. Some are paid trolls and shills, and others genuinely feel the need to stand up and be heard even if just to argue a point whether that point has merit or not. Akin to Colin Kaepernick, protesting years after he lost in the Super Bowl to the Ravens and not during after he was cut from the team protesting an injustice that never existed.
But they never include their E-mail addresses or identities, perhaps because their vitriolic comments may be interpreted by the authorities as threats that warrant charges.
In the end, they wont be around to help you when you need it. Youll need to think on your feet. Nothing that Ive written for you has ever been to harm you or to not provide you with either information or food for thought, and Im not about to reverse my position. We are at a juncture that most people do not recognize on the precipice of tyranny. This piece is going to give you information that you can act on or choose not to act on. In the end, it is your decision and youre on your own with it.
What to do when they come for the guns.
In truth, there are many things you can do about it. Ill put out some information, but Im not telling you what to do, nor advocating doing it.
- Have some to feed them if they come: If you bought any semiautomatic rifles (erroneously and intentionally termed assault rifles) thorough Mr. Legal/Western Consumer Marketing procedures? Theres a record of your purchase and that record is on file forever. They will not overlook whatever you purchased. For those Davy Crockett naysayers who will defend until theyve breathed their last? Yes, thats exactly what will happen: you will breathe your last. Christopher Dormer was a maniac on the run, but in the end, the cabin he holed up in burned to the ground droned, no doubt. One thing is to feed them part of what you bought. Concept: The Secret of Santa Vittoria, with Anthony Quinn where the town sacrificed 200,000 bottles of wine to hide a million bottles from the German army in WWII.
- Disassemble, protect, stash: Take a weapon apart, and break it down into its groups bolt, barrel, so on. Coat it with protectant/oil/grease, wrap it in plastic, and it could be stashed where it will not be found.
- Cache off-property: self-explanatory, but pick a national forest, a state forest, or a remote wilderness area. We have covered enough information on caches, and you will have to take the idea here and develop it.
- Cache on-property: here more care will be exercised, but if you follow step #1? Chances are your property will then not be searched and I dont mean Barney Fife walking around the grounds. Im talking about teams with metal detectors, combing every inch of ground, and probably searching your house as well.
- Sewers: Yes, nobody likes going in the sewers including the cops. After coating with protectant, wrap in 3 layers of waterproof plastic, and attach a line securely and where no one can find it or grab it.
- Sale or Trade: getting rid of what has been purchased under record, and either buying something to replace it or trading for it outside of Happy Mr. Gun Store-Channels.
- Hidden spaces: House or Storage Unit: this would involve either some major innovations in home improvement or utilizing existing spaces and structures to accommodate your needs.
This last one you would have to be especially careful with. The detection devices the State will use are not to be taken lightly. Im giving you these ideas for starters. There are more, but Im not going to give you what I would do. Understand what youre dealing with. I write articles such as this one. If you think they dont notice this, you better think again. They also notice that you read these articles. They know (and have recorded) all your e-mails, comments, and key strokes. This is the age where you must take extreme precautions, because what is coming down the pike will not be good. Food for thought with this article. Take the information and ideas, formulate your own plans, and run with the ball when you feel its the time.
Jeremiah Johnson is the Nom de plume of a retired Green Beret of the United States Army Special Forces (Airborne). Mr. Johnson is also a Gunsmith, a Certified Master Herbalist, a Montana Master Food Preserver, and a graduate of the U.S. Armys SERE school (Survival Evasion Resistance Escape). He lives in a cabin in the mountains of Western Montana with his wife and three cats. You can follow Jeremiahs regular writings at SHTFplan.com or contact him here.
This article may be republished or excerpted with proper attribution to the author and a link to www.SHTFplan.com.
#1: Gatlin To: Deckard (#0)
Why do you continually try to scaremonger as you repeatedly spread such ridiculously exaggerated rumors of some fictious impending danger?
Gatlin posted on 2018-10-09 12:01:49 Reply Private Reply
#2: Deckard To: Gatlin (#1)
You're a government-worshiping, brainwashed sheeple.
Hey, didn't you vote for this guy?
Trump: "Take the guns first, go through due process second"
Deckard posted on 2018-10-09 13:41:43 Reply Private Reply
#3: Hondo68 To: Gatlin, Songbird Tater, squeeler rat fink (#1)
Tater is a clear and present danger, be prepared.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-10-09 13:57:59 Reply Private Reply
#4: Gatlin To: hondo68 (#3)
You bet your cotton picking ass that I am definitely a clear and present danger to every asshole Paultard libertarian as I continue to condemn them for having such a preposterous fantasy.
So preposterous that one can only wonder how alleged intelligent adults can seriously entertain it.
Ah, but the power of the human mind to rationalize things is truly awesome in their mythical world.
Your warning is futile for there is absolutely no way to be prepared from my attacks with more truth bombs released than could ever be imagined.
Gatlin posted on 2018-10-09 14:50:55 Reply Private Reply
#5: Gatlin To: Deckard (#2)
You are one sick asshole who continually spreads your ideology of fear through propaganda articles you mainly parrot that are collected from The Free Thought Project along with other yellow journalism sources and the likes thereof in your effort to fulfill a concealed agenda. The difference between you and a terrorist is that you fight with false information and not direct violence.
You may be surprised to learn this is no new idea since SCOTUS has repeatedly authorized depriving persons of liberty or property without first according them a full trial-type due process proceeding which comes later. This according to law professor John Banzhaf, who teaches many of these fundamental Supreme Court due process cases.
While the Constitution provides nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law, there Have been numerous situations where the deprivation did take place long before there is time for a full evidentiary hearing in court known a due process hearing.
The take the guns first, go through due process second" action is most common, and not surprising that one this is most closely analogous to the seizure of weapons to which Trump mentioned.
For example: It does occur when there are ANY REASONABLE GROUNDS to believe that a law enforcement official is not fit to continue patrolling with a firearm. . SCOTUS has UPHELD the take-first and due-process evidentiary hearing later procedure, even in cases where the risks of not acting promptly do not involve public health or safety.
Hey, you are damned well right.
I most certainly did vote for Donald Trump and I continue to be proud of doint that with each passing day as Trump continues his actions to Make America Great Again.
God Bless Donald Trump !!!
Gatlin posted on 2018-10-09 15:52:42 Reply Private Reply
#6: Deckard To: Gatlin (#4)
Aren't you the clown who believes that Americans have no right to defend themselves against government tyranny?
Look asshole - the plan all along is to DISARM American citizens.
Your ignorance does not negate that fact.
Deckard posted on 2018-10-09 16:53:03 Reply Private Reply
#7: nolu chan To: Deckard (#0)
RESIST!
https://rotunda.upress.virginia.edu/founders/default.xqy?keys=FOEA-print-04-02-02-4598
This was a documented early and insidious intrusion into the right to keep and bear arms. They have been coming for our guns ever since.
Meeting Minutes of University of Virginia Board of Visitors, 4 Oct. 1824
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This was approved by the board. The board included Thomas Jefferson, drafter of the Declaration of Independence, and James Madison, drafter of the Second Amendment.
nolu chan posted on 2018-10-09 17:13:03 Reply Private Reply
#8: misterwhite To: Deckard (#0)
That's like asking, "What Can Be Done When Your Daughter Says She's Pregnant?
The time to deal with those issues is waaaay before they happen with the intent of preventing them.
misterwhite posted on 2018-10-09 18:04:25 Reply Private Reply
#9: Gatlin To: Deckard (#6)
Whether it's occasional forgetfulness or loss of short-term memory that is now so obviously interfering with your daily life, there are many causes of memory loss.
To what do you attribute your poor memory problem?
Is it medications, alcohol or drug use?
I strongly suspect the latter based on your posting history and how you constantly promote the use of drugs.
Nope!And there you go again using your inflammatory rhetoric .government tyranny.
What do you mean tyranny?
I look at the historical definition of tyranny and see that it referres to a ruler (tyrant) who is not legitimate, according to the law or tradition of the country. In simple words, he did not properly come into the line of rule but as in the inheritance, like kings.
Defend themselves against government tyranny?
Why worry about defending against government tyranny when the absolute best way to avoid tyranny is to implement a governmental system of checks and balances. The United States did that a long time ago.
The Founding Fathers brilliantly saw to that task when they established our system of government in which each branch keeps a check on the other branches with no one branch controlling too much power. You do agree, dont you?
If you avoid tyranny, which our system of government was designed to do and effectively does, then there is no use to needlessly concern yourself worrying about defending against tyranny?
Est-ce pas vrai?
Show the plan of which you speak and anticipate the usage thereof. Can you? Your lonely sole assertion does not validate the drastic and incomprehensible radical action you allege.Gatlin posted on 2018-10-09 18:06:30 Reply Private Reply
#10: Hondo68 To: Gatlin, Take the Guns First, NYC Left Wing Loon, Trump, tyrannical scofflaw, *Bang List* (#9)
Left Wing Loon President Trump advocates Chairman Mao's position on firearms ownership.
He says that there will be a ban on bump stocks in a couple of weeks, and he's also pushing Stop and Frisk. All of these are violations of the 2nd amendment, with some 4th amendment violations thrown in for good measure.
He's very dedicated to the David Hogg/Dianne Feinstein agenda.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-10-09 18:58:20 Reply Private Reply
#11: Gatlin To: hondo68 (#10)
This point has been discussed and dismissed.
Nothing here.
Move along ...
Gatlin posted on 2018-10-09 19:35:36 Reply Private Reply
#12: Gatlin To: hondo68 (#10)
In your effort to demonize President Trump and feel you are attempting in some way to prevent him from taking weapons out of the hands off the people when he is doing no such thing, you have now through your blatant stupidity ignorantly joined the zealots who fabricate malicious claims to attack President Trump.
One of the false assertions is the repeated claim that they are coming to take your guns away like the commie Chairman Mao did. This is perhaps the most repeated fear statement and thusly links gun control to communism for a paranoidal association. This association is done so it will appear that anyone who supports gun control is portrayed as being a communist.
The automatic association you have made here between Trump and communism is just plain dishonest and thoroughly exposes your ignorant and scheming ways. Shame on you .shame on you!
Go make a check and get back to me if you find on any website that deals in Chinese law, a law that prohibited anyone from having any guns during the revolutionary period in China. I contend there is literally no law during the revolutionary period that prohibited anyone from having any guns and furthermore, there is absolutely no source for claiming that the Party took peoples guns away.
I challenge you to prove me wrong.
In your search for the truth you will find that during the revolutionary time the people in China were armed. They carried their guns to work, carried them into the fields and carried them everywhere.
No, Mao didnt ban people from having guns. Maos government officials were the ones that gave guns out to people in order to arm their Peoples Army."
Gatlin posted on 2018-10-09 20:41:57 Reply Private Reply
#13: Gatlin To: hondo68 (#10)
You need to stay on topic.
Gatlin posted on 2018-10-09 20:49:12 Reply Private Reply
#14: Gatlin To: hondo68 (#10)
Thats BULLSHIT and you damn well know that it is.
Stop making up lies!!!
Gatlin posted on 2018-10-09 20:51:37 Reply Private Reply
#15: Hondo68 To: Gatlin, Peers Morgan Tater (#12)
Quit making up lies attempting to defend Mao & Donnell.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-10-09 21:28:23 Reply Private Reply
#16: Gatlin To: hondo68 (#15)
You made the association.
Now you need to show any evidence Chairman Mao restricted or confiscated guns.
Can you?
Gatlin posted on 2018-10-09 21:46:51 Reply Private Reply
#17: GrandIsland To: Deckard (#2)
Hey, fuckstain, tell me, the last 4 presidential candidates you voted for... what have they done to protect my 2nd amendment rights?
Nothing you say? Thats what I thought. Shut your cream catcher.
GrandIsland posted on 2018-10-09 22:48:51 Reply Private Reply
#18: Gatlin To: hondo68, A K A Stone (#15)
So, Im here to tell your deceiving and lying ass that Mao never said: You register and ban the firearms before the slaughter.
You need to stop putting out false bullshit and trying to pass off a lie as a factually true historical quotation just to promote your sick agenda.
You are just like Deckard, another sick POS who will blindly believe anything you find on the Internet, especially if it feeds your confirmation bias.
Mao never wanted gun control.
You have been reading the words of a man who wanted guns in the hands of the working class and the laboring masses.Mao never wanted to take the guns from laboring class or keep the guns out of their hands.
YOUR MEME IS PURE BULLSHIT IT IS A LIE AND SHOULD BE TAKEN DOWN.
I will now present the 1938 paragraph below that contains the CORRECT phrase; the central phrase (in bold), cited as deriving from the 1938 speech via the Selected Works, is thr EXACT wording given in Mao's Quotations.
Gatlin posted on 2018-10-09 23:15:33 Reply Private Reply
#19: Hondo68 To: Gatlin, Butthurt liberal (#18)
Hondo68 posted on 2018-10-10 01:01:36 Reply Private Reply
#20: Deckard To: Gatlin, hondo68 (#18)
Wow - defending Mao huh?
WTF are you doing on this site commie?
China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Deckard posted on 2018-10-10 06:04:36 Reply Private Reply
#21: Gatlin To: hondo68 (#19)
It matters greatly that you continue to post LIES and I say that its time for Stone to bridle your lies and reign you in from continuing to post them.
To this end, I am now calling on Stone to immediately delete your posts #15 and #19 that contain unproven accusations .in other words, multiple lies.
I challenged you on the Mao quote lie by showing you where the quote you posted was a lie when I reproduced the entire paragraph containing the correct remark Mao made in 1938.
But that did not phase you and now here you come again when you continue to post the SAME lie in post #19 showing that something happened with Mao and you are unable to verify it happened.
It is bad enough when you post a lie where you tried to show that in 1938 Mao Ta Sung said you register and ban the firearms before the slaughter and you cannot show a source for that quote.
But it is far worse that you are posted a FLAT OUT LIE about President Donald Trump and I am here to say that you have gone TOO far with your constant lying.
You have now passed being repulsive when you lied with an accusation where you stated that Left Wing Loon President Trump advocates Chairman Mao's position on firearms ownership thereby accusing President Trump of contemplating a Mao position and action that Mao NEVER stated or held.
STOP with the damned LIES, hondo !!!
Gatlin posted on 2018-10-10 06:10:05 Reply Private Reply
#22: Deckard To: Gatlin, hondo68 (#21)
Yet you want to continue to post your commie propaganda and declare your love for Chairman Mao.
Deckard posted on 2018-10-10 06:12:58 Reply Private Reply
#23: Gatlin To: Deckard, hondo68, A K A Stone (#20)
Right now I am on this site in the process of trying to get hondos lies deleted and especially his lie about President Trump, you brain damaged piece of shit libertarian doper.Ill kick your stupid ass later.
Gatlin posted on 2018-10-10 06:36:28 Reply Private Reply
#24: Gatlin To: Deckard, hondo68, A K A Stone (#22)
I want no such thing.
I want to continue attacking and debunking lies.
And that is what I damned well will do.
Understand?
Gatlin posted on 2018-10-10 06:42:19 Reply Private Reply
#25: A K A Stone To: Gatlin (#23)
Everyone here knows Hondo is a liar. He isn't truthful. He exxagerates and stretches and outright lies.
Maybe I should just ban him and Fred Mertz. They don't add a whole lot here.
Fred just whines and creis like a snowflake. Hondo makes stuff up like a little kid.
We know who he is.
A K A Stone posted on 2018-10-10 07:06:03 Reply Private Reply
#26: Gatlin To: A K A Stone (#25)
And I can also say I feel the ban action would add stature to your forum.
I really dont know how you have tolerated them for so long.
Anyway, I have no problem with Fred since he placed me on bozo and I no longer read his posts.
And I am just about to the point of completely ignoring hondo. In fact, I am probably already there.
Edit -
Whatever you may decide to do, please leave Deckard alone.
Deckard continues to provide a platform for some great entertainment.
His irrational musings would be dearly missed by all.
Gatlin posted on 2018-10-10 07:20:37 Reply Private Reply
#27: GrandIsland To: Gatlin (#26)
They are squatters... nothing more.
GrandIsland posted on 2018-10-10 07:47:15 Reply Private Reply
#28: A K A Stone To: Gatlin (#26)
A K A Stone posted on 2018-10-10 07:49:05 Reply Private Reply
#29: Deckard To: Gatlin (#23)
Deckard posted on 2018-10-10 08:02:01 Reply Private Reply
#30: Gatlin To: Deckard (#29)
Nope.
I'm just a truthfully straight forward ole country boy who will challenge any and all lies.
Don't you ever forget that !!!
Gatlin posted on 2018-10-10 08:13:29 Reply Private Reply
#31: Gatlin To: Deckard (#20)
America beat China by one year to establish gun control when the first major federal fun control law passed in the 20th century was the National Firearms Act (NFA) of 1934. The National Firearms Act was passed after Prohibition-era gangsterism peaked with the Saint Valentine's Day massacre of 1929.
"Gun control" isn't synonymous with gun confiscation libertarian asshole.
The subject hondo and I were discussing was gun confiscation and never gun control.
But since you stuck your nose in, I ask you to now show me where Mao said: You register and ban the firearms before the slaughter.
Gatlin posted on 2018-10-10 08:20:14 Reply Private Reply
#32: Hondo68 To: Gatlin, Trump, stop and frisk, take the guns first, ban bump stocks, *Bill of Rights-Constitution* (#31)
The lies just never stop from Chairman Mao's Canary, tater tot.
I was discussing Gun Control/Confiscation, and Gatlin was mostly off topic with pro-Mao/Trump commie propaganda, shuck 'n jive about gun control not being confiscation, and Donnell & Mao are real cool cats.
So called "gun control" tyranny is accompanied by and enforced with jail, confiscations, 4th amendment illegal search and seizure (theft), blacklists including prohibition against voting for a representative government (permanent "felon"). At this point, one is a tax slave, a second class peon/serf. Does the phrase "Taxation without Representation" sound familiar?
Gun Control = Gun Confiscation
Hondo68 posted on 2018-10-10 12:54:03 Reply Private Reply
#33: Stoner To: hondo68 (#32)
Yes it is. That is obvious, and elementary knowledge to any one with a bit of common sense, and even a minimal amount of historical knowledge!!!
However, those that are not as smart as they think they are, will fail to understand !!!
Stoner posted on 2018-10-12 12:46:24 Reply Private Reply