Is this the America you really want to live in?
Here's the sort of story that should never happen, especially in a country that prides itself on its humanity and openness to newcomers.
In 2013, Army Lt. Col. Patrick Schreiber and his wife put off officially adopting their teenaged daughter, Hyebin, who was born in the Republic of Korea. The reason? He was about to deploy to Afghanistan for a year. When he returned, they put through the paperwork, adopted her, and then started working on her citizenship. But Hyebin had turned 17 in the interim, which is a problem:
The U.S. immigration law cutoff for a foreign-born adopted child to become a naturalized citizen is 16, and on Friday a U.S. District Court in Kansas ruled in favor of U.S. Customs and Immigration Services that there would not be an exception in Hyebin's case. She is allowed to complete her degree in chemical engineering at the University of Kansas, which she will do next year. Then she must return to Korea, Schreiber said Monday.
Here is Schreiber's backstory:
Schreiber served in the military for 27 years, meeting his wife Soo Jin while he was serving as a tank company executive officer and in other positions in Korea with 1st Battalion, 72nd Armor Regiment in the late 1990s. Hyebin was Soo Jin's niece, and when Hyebin's home life became too difficult, Schreiber and his wife took her in as their own daughter.
During his military career, Schreiber jumped with the 82nd Airborne Division into Panama during Operation Just Cause, served in Desert Shield and Desert Storm, deployed to Iraq from 2005 to 2006 and then again from 2007 to 2008. He was sent to Afghanistan from 2010 to 2011 and then again from 2013 to 2014. He retired in 2015 and still works for DoD as a contractor.
Schreiber and his wife are filing an appeal, but he says that if they lose the case, the whole family will move to Korea. "As I tell my daughter, life isn't fair," Schreiber told Military Times, where the above quotes are taken from. "The main thing is to be resilient."
That sort of stoicism is perhaps to be expected from a career military man, but the situation is nuts. Life being unfair is getting cancer in your teens, or struck by lightning, or something like that. This is a matter of policy which is eminently addressable and fixable, as are so many problems in contemporary America (think of education, drug policy, criminal justice, and other areas where bad outcomes are baked into a system that can be reformed).
Although Donald Trump, his administration, and the Republican Party are openly hostile to legal immigration, one hopes that these particular circumstances might breach the wall around their hearts and cause them to rethink not just this case, but others as well.

Immigration policy in the United States has a long and tendentious history shot through with unapologetic racism, which makes it particularly difficult to discuss with any sense of decorum or even basic reality. Trump was barely five minutes into the announcement that he was seeking the presidency when he launched into a reality-challenged attack on Mexicans, as you may recall. Back in the 1920s, "even some of the people fighting racist immigration and citizenship laws were racist." Attempting to get around a ban on immigration for Asian Indians, Bhagat Singh Thind argued in front of the Supreme Court that not only was he a "high caste aryan," but that he was as disgusted by "the aboriginal Indian Mongoloid...as the American regards the Negro" and would never have sex with either (he lost his case, which led to the revocation of citizenship to other Asian Indians).
Ironically, the overtly nativist tone taken by Trump administration members, Republican members of Congress (remember draft-dodging Rep. Steve King of Iowa lamenting that "you can't restore our civlization with somebody else's babies"), and anti-immigration activists is making immigration more popular. Gallup finds that that just 12 percent of voters consider "immigration/illegal immigrants" the most important problem facing the country (29 percent say the real problem is "Dissatisfaction with government/Poor leadership.") In June of this year, the polling service found
A record-high 75% of Americans, including majorities of all party groups, think immigration is a good thing for the U.S.up slightly from 71% last year. Just 19% of the public considers immigration a bad thing....
Corroborating the data that show Americans believe immigration is good for the country, a separate Gallup trend question shows a record-low number of Americans29%saying that immigration into the U.S. should be decreased. A plurality of 39% think immigration into the U.S. should be kept at its present level, while 28% say it should be increased.
Donald Trump just might go down in history as the leader who finally, unambiguously made America pro-immigrant. Here's hoping that turnaround happens in time for Patrick Schrieber, his wife Soo jin, and their daughter Hyebin. What a waste to lose them over an accident of timing.
#1: A K A Stone To: Deckard (#0)
Hey dick. When Trump gets that wall built. How about you move to the other side of it. That way you won't have to deal with us American "racists".
A K A Stone posted on 2018-10-05 07:41:19 Reply Private Reply
#2: Fred Mertz To: A K A Stone (#1)
Fred Mertz posted on 2018-10-05 07:48:50 Reply Private Reply
#3: A K A Stone To: Fred Mertz (#2)
Most indians aren't like you though chief wet pants.
A K A Stone posted on 2018-10-05 07:55:11 Reply Private Reply
#4: Fred Mertz To: A K A Stone (#3)
Fred Mertz posted on 2018-10-05 08:05:10 Reply Private Reply
#5: GrandIsland To: A K A Stone (#1)
The thing is, I could see it when there was a Bush and Obama... been trying to tell both forums.
GrandIsland posted on 2018-10-05 08:14:30 Reply Private Reply
#6: A K A Stone To: Fred Mertz (#4)
A K A Stone posted on 2018-10-05 08:14:38 Reply Private Reply
#7: Deckard To: Fred Mertz (#2)
We're not all like that.
Deckard posted on 2018-10-05 08:15:40 Reply Private Reply
#8: Deckard To: GrandIsland, A K A Stone (#5)
Deckard posted on 2018-10-05 08:17:31 Reply Private Reply
#9: Vicomte13 To: Deckard (#0)
This is obviously a travesty of justice. Obviously the minor imperfection in the record should have simply been corrected by judicial notice, and that be that.
The government's tack here is similar to what the Democrats have done with Kavanaugh - do something so blatantly unfair that it provokes a reaction.
We can have a wall and tight immigration policies, but we will not if the courts and government administrators behave like this.
Obviously the girl gets to stay. The appellate court will so rule.
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-10-05 08:29:30 Reply Private Reply
#10: nolu chan To: Deckard, A K A Stone, GrandIsland, Vicomte13 (#0)
Hyebin Schreiber is NOT AN IMMIGRANT. She is present in the United States on a STUDENT VISA. She is not eligible for an I-130 Immigrant Visa. She is not eligible to be classified as a "legimated" child as she is not the blood relative of petitioner adoptive father.
She entered the United States on 15 Dec 2012 at age 15.
The age cutoff to to classify a person as an adopted "child" for immigration purposes is 16 years under a provision of the INA, 8 U.S.C. § 1101(b)(1)(E).
The BIA also determined that Hyebin could not be categorized as a child under § 1101(b)(1)(C)'s legitimation provision because her adoption was finalized after she already had turned 16.
The BIA concluded that it did not have jurisdiction to rule on the constitutionality of the laws it administers.
Lt. Col. Patrick Schrieber v. James McCament, et al, 2:17-cv-02371-DDC-JPO, Doc 32 (29 Sep 2018), at 1-4:
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LT. COL. PATRICK SCHREIBER,... by on Scribd
nolu chan posted on 2018-10-05 10:10:06 Reply Private Reply
#11: Fred Mertz To: Deckard (#7)
I know. I went to school with about 5 guys from Ohio and 4 of them were fairly judgmental when it came to race. I'm still friends with them and they've come around over time.
Fred Mertz posted on 2018-10-05 10:17:15 Reply Private Reply
#12: Deckard To: nolu chan (#10)
In 2013, Army Lt. Col. Patrick Schreiber and his wife put off officially adopting their teenaged daughter, Hyebin, who was born in the Republic of Korea. The reason? He was about to deploy to Afghanistan for a year. When he returned, they put through the paperwork, adopted her, and then started working on her citizenship. But Hyebin had turned 17 in the interim, which is a problem:
But heaven forbid fed.gov grant an extension for a soon-to-be graduate with a degree in chemical engineering to live with her adoptive parents in the USA.
Although Donald Trump, his administration, and the Republican Party are openly hostile to legal immigration, one hopes that these particular circumstances might breach the wall around their hearts and cause them to rethink not just this case, but others as well.
Oh...I seriously doubt that.
Deckard posted on 2018-10-05 10:24:07 Reply Private Reply
#13: Hondo68 To: Fred Mertz, Kasich Counrty crackas, Believe in Mitt school (#2)
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Hondo68 posted on 2018-10-05 10:44:44 Reply Private Reply
#14: Vicomte13 To: nolu chan (#10)
It's not simply a matter of enforcing the law. It's also a matter of being able to sustain a legal regime.
Decisions like this create a very foul taste, one that we needn't taste, because the judge could have easily fixed this and we never would have had to think about it. Well, now we're thinking about it.
Keep on making bad decisions like this, and people like me will shift allegiance against the tough immigration laws, and then those who want tough immigration laws will have lost the war.
Unless you have a strong political majority, controversial things must not be taken to an absolute extreme "on the law".
There is no strong political majority for harsh immigration laws. There is a tenuous majority for them. That majority will be temporary if the majority does not wield its authority judicially.
People like me, Independents, see both sides, and we've come down - lightly - on the side of Trump and Co. The government needs to exercise discretion in its handling of these things. This is a very heavy-handed decision, with a very bad consequences, for an upright, honorable military family - this Colonel and his family are precisely the sort of people that the law is supposed to make allowances for.
If the law will not be enforced with discretion and care - and here it is not - then people like me will get angry enough at the abuse that we will shift sides, and we'll have more open borders and less enforcement again.
And that, in turn, will cement a Democrat majority that will never be overcome.
So, folks who don't want that need to tread lightly.
This decision was atrocious. The judge failed to do his job. The appellate court will, it is hoped, manufacture a way for the girl to stay.
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-10-05 11:20:27 Reply Private Reply
#15: nolu chan To: Deckard (#12)
Bullshit from a bullshit website. Read the applicable law and the court opinion.
Bullshit meets reality of court opinion. The plain meaning of the statute required that plaintiff be the biological father. Schreiber was not the biological father.
Filing the paperwork on a different date would not have made him the biological father. Read the court opinion. You are citing something not decided by the court.
There was a failed claim of citizenship by adoption which required that the child be "under the age of sixteen years if the child has been in the legal custody of, and has resided with, the adopting parent or parents for at least two years." The adoption did not take place until Hyebin was over 17 years old. Hyebin was beyond the age of becoming a U.S. citizen through adoption at the time the adoption was finalized. That paperwork could not possibly be filed before the adoption was finalized.
To comply with the requirements of 8 U.S.C. 1101(b)(1)(E), Hyebin who arrived on December 15, 2012 at age 15 would have had to reside with the petitioner for two years. and petitioner would have had to file before Hyebin turned 16. It's impossible.
8 U.S.C. 1101(b)(1)(E)
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The issue before the court was legitimation under 8 U.S.C. 1101(b)(1)(C). This applies to legitimating a blood relative of the petitioner.
8 U.S.C. 1101(b)(1)(C)
The issue before the court was the legitimation of Hyebin under 8 U.S.C. § 1101(b)(1)(C) whose plain text meaning the court held to be unambiguous, and to require a biological connection between a visa petitioner and his beneficiary. There is no biological connection between petitioner LCOL Schrieber and Hyebin.
Lt. Col. Patrick Schrieber v. James McCament, et al, 2:17-cv-02371-DDC-JPO, Doc 32 (29 Sep 2018), MEMORANDUM and ORDER, at 26:
Lt. Col. Patrick Schrieber v. James McCament, et al, 2:17-cv-02371-DDC-JPO, Doc 32 (29 Sep 2018), MEMORANDUM and ORDER, at 28-29
nolu chan posted on 2018-10-05 14:19:26 Reply Private Reply
#16: nolu chan To: Vicomte13 (#14)
The decision was directly according to the unambiguous plain text of the law which required the petitioner to be the biological father of the child.
Congress can change the law if they choose. Perhaps one of those old fashioned private petitions to congress might still work. The Court has nothing to work with.
nolu chan posted on 2018-10-05 14:27:32 Reply Private Reply
#17: Vicomte13 To: nolu chan (#16)
This is why the court has equitable powers, to soften the law to produce the just result.
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-10-05 14:37:52 Reply Private Reply