(Global Research) In a major reversal of long-standing federal policy, the Trump Administration has issued a new plan to charge demonstrators for the right to use our public parks, sidewalk, and streets that are on federal land in the nations capital for First Amendment activity. Among other areas, this includes the National Mall, Lafayette Park, the Lincoln Memorial and the sidewalk in front of the Trump Hotel on Pennsylvania Avenue.
The federal Pay-to-Protest in DC plan includes charging demonstrators for the cost of barricades and fencing erected at the discretion of police; salaries of personnel deployed to monitor the protest; trash removal and sanitation charges; permit application fees and costs that the government will assess on harm to the turf.
In addition, the Department of Interior under Ryan Zinke has quietly moved to close the iconic White House sidewalk to protest. The National Park Services recent regulatory filing shows plans to close the sidewalk to demonstrations leaving only a narrow pedestrian passageway. The Nixon administration notoriously ordered buses to surround the White House during Vietnam War protests, blocking access to the sidewalk. Now the Trump administration wants to issue a regulatory change to essentially block all protests from the sidewalk permanently.
These plans were contained in a 94-page regulatory proposal that was published in the federal register by the National Park Service, under the Department of the Interior. The public has until October 15, 2018, to register their opposition.
Never before in history have protestors been required to pay to demonstrate on federal land in the nations capital. This is a protest tax on the exercise of First Amendment rights intended to burden and suppress dissent, stated Mara Verheyden-Hilliard, constitutional rights lawyer and executive director of the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund.
Free speech is not free if you have to pay for it. The exercise of free speech is a fundamental right and this measure is anti-democratic at its core, stated Carl Messineo, constitutional rights lawyer and legal director of the PCJF.
The Partnership for Civil Justice Fund has launched a legal challenge and grassroots organizing campaign to stop this plan, including a petition in opposition to the plan here.
Click here to read an OpEd by the PCJFs Mara Verheyden-Hilliard and Carl Messineo in the Washington Post.
The original source of this article is Global Research
#1: Liberator To: Deckard (#0)
"Never before in history!!!" (Lotta that going around -- not that YOU care about it.)
Chyeah, the nerve.
I guess that means your SJW/BLM/Antifa allies and thugs won't be able to hijack the events of those WITH permits...OR punch out and bait Trump Supporters and Pro-Lifers?
I'm all broken up about this proposal. Will you now contribute to the ACLU/SPLC "GO FUND ME projects??
*sob, sniffle*
Liberator posted on 2018-09-14 19:48:47 Reply Private Reply
#2: Deckard To: Liberator (#1)
It's a shame though that you are unable to grasp the First Amendment infringements this poses.
Funny thing - you'd be howling like a banshee if Obama had done something like this.
Deckard posted on 2018-09-14 19:52:21 Reply Private Reply
#3: Liberator To: Deckard (#2)
Yeah. "MAGA" is obscene, isn't it?
Hey -- we still have a 1A that entitles you to sit your azz on the political fence as propagandists have their way with you.
NEWSFLASH: Fascists are trying to twist the truth and destroy the USA
It's a shame though that you are unable to grasp the First Amendment infringements this poses.
Funny thing - you'd be howling like a banshee if Obama had done something like this.
Here's an even funnier thing; IF 0bama did it, by default it'd HELP fascist cause AND restrict REAL freedom.
The 1A was severely restricted during 0bama's 8 years. That's right -- for EIGHT YEARS, his LE, DoJ, IRS, and his kangaroo courts made sure of it (You missed all that, huh?
Liberator posted on 2018-09-14 19:58:58 Reply Private Reply
#4: CZ82 To: Liberator (#3)
Missed no, ignored definitely.
I love it when Trump trolls the tards. lol...
CZ82 posted on 2018-09-14 20:04:42 Reply Private Reply
#5: Deckard To: Liberator (#3)
Yet - when Trump does it - according to you he's a hero.
Yeah, now that's funny.
The 1A was severely restricted during 0bama's 8 years. That's right -- for EIGHT YEARS, his LE, DoJ, IRS, and his kangaroo courts made sure of it.
Yeah - you seem to forget the "Free Speech Zones" instituted by Bush.
No president has a monopoly on silencing free speech.
Trump is no different in that respect.
Deckard posted on 2018-09-14 20:09:54 Reply Private Reply
#6: Hondo68 To: Deckard, Liberator (#2)
Closing the streets in front of the WH & other gov facilities is a clear violation of the 1st amendment right to petition the government for redress of grievances.
I recall the LBJ war protests at the WH in '67-'68. Trump has proven that he's a bigger ahole than LBJ!
Contrary to popular sheeple opinion, you don't need no stinking permits to protest.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-09-14 20:13:23 Reply Private Reply
#7: CZ82 To: hondo68 (#6)
Then you should remember that LBJ used to expose himself to people and rubbed his junk on them, right??
CZ82 posted on 2018-09-14 20:15:57 Reply Private Reply
#8: Fred Mertz To: Deckard (#0)
I agree with her statement. I used to attend some FReaker protests many moons ago against Slick Willy. Made a good opportunity to visit friends in the area after protesting for a few hours.
Fred Mertz posted on 2018-09-14 20:22:15 Reply Private Reply
#9: Liberator To: Deckard (#5)
I'm going to give you a mulligan in this case. Only because I have a feeling you're distracted,succumbing to some un-revealed external pressure or influence.
This issue is is slam-dunk case IF ONLY you would focus on context and a fair and honest assessment and overview of BOTH respective agendas of 0bama vs Trump.
Liberator posted on 2018-09-14 20:23:44 Reply Private Reply
#10: Liberator To: Deckard (#5)
Erroneous equation. Of course you would answer 5 = 2 + 2.
:-(
Liberator posted on 2018-09-14 20:25:06 Reply Private Reply
#11: Fred Mertz To: CZ82 (#7)
I never heard that unless you're speaking from experience.
Fred Mertz posted on 2018-09-14 20:25:14 Reply Private Reply
#12: Liberator To: hondo68 (#6)
Your devolution of judgement and succumbing to propaanda has been one of the saddest things I've seen in this (or LP) forum in this case.
I don't know that you're redeemable.
Liberator posted on 2018-09-14 20:26:45 Reply Private Reply
#13: Deckard To: Liberator (#9)
With all due respect - spare me your bogus psycho-babble bullshit, OK sport?
If you can't see the First Amendment ramifications here, then you're the one who needs help.
If it's bad when Obama suppresses political speech, why is it good when Trump does it?
Deckard posted on 2018-09-14 20:27:39 Reply Private Reply
#14: BorisY To: Deckard (#0)
The lefT sTarTed a rioT
Killed someone
Then blamed Trump
They should all do jail Time
Love
boris
BorisY posted on 2018-09-14 20:27:46 Reply Private Reply
#15: Liberator To: Fred Mertz, CZ82 (#11)
Good luck wit dat.
Liberator posted on 2018-09-14 20:28:24 Reply Private Reply
#16: Liberator To: CZ82, hondo68, sneakypete (#7)
That's these crusaders' problem: AMNESIA. (Or utter ignorance.)
LBJ and his reptilian ego contributed to HOW MANY deaths in Nam?? (not to mention murders of political opponents??)
Liberator posted on 2018-09-14 20:30:23 Reply Private Reply
#17: Liberator To: Deckard (#13)
Sorry. I call it as I see it.
You've sold out.
Liberator posted on 2018-09-14 20:31:03 Reply Private Reply
#18: CZ82 To: Fred Mertz (#11)
The right search engine may expand your horizons (knowledge) Google won't.
CZ82 posted on 2018-09-14 20:33:57 Reply Private Reply
#19: Liberator To: Deckard (#13)
I see it alright; As protection FOR CONSERVTIVES whose liberty's and free speech rights are ubiquitous QUASHED by PAID, ORGANIZED Disruptors, like Antifa-Dems mercs, BLM mercs, and other PAID disruptors of conservative venues.
Btw, you mean you have been oblivious to Craigslist hires? If YOU have missed all that, my medical license has lapsed ;-) I can't help your amnesia.
Liberator posted on 2018-09-14 20:36:58 Reply Private Reply
#20: Hondo68 To: CZ82 (#7)
You must have been more buzzed, than I was.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-09-14 20:37:01 Reply Private Reply
#21: CZ82 To: Liberator (#16)
Some folks love to believe their heroes are as pure as the driven snow, if they'd open their eyes they'd go blind with the truth.
CZ82 posted on 2018-09-14 20:37:08 Reply Private Reply
#22: Justified To: Deckard (#0)
Justified posted on 2018-09-14 20:39:30 Reply Private Reply
#23: Liberator To: BorisY, Deckard (#14)
+100
YES INDEED!
Both sides at Charlottesville even took the SAME BUS to the organized STUNT.
Liberator posted on 2018-09-14 20:39:33 Reply Private Reply
#24: Justified To: CZ82, Liberator (#4)
Me Three!
Justified posted on 2018-09-14 20:40:53 Reply Private Reply
#25: Deckard To: Liberator (#17)
Nice job of projecting there pal.
My political views have not changed, and I'm sorry if it disturbs you that I am not going all in for Trump and drinking the kool-aid like you are.
If anyone has "sold out" it's you. At one time you could see behind the curtain and even mocked those who put "party over principle".
Now look at you - just another member of the Cult Of Personality.
Let me make this clear to you - I do not hate Trump - he has done some good things indeed.
But I am not going to remain silent when something is amiss with him and his administration.
Deckard posted on 2018-09-14 20:41:06 Reply Private Reply
#26: Deckard To: Justified (#22)
Yeah I get it - Obama suppressing speech = BAD!
Trump suppressing speech - GOOD!
Deckard posted on 2018-09-14 20:42:40 Reply Private Reply
#27: Liberator To: CZ82 (#21)
As we know, nobody's perfect. But these people are so used to kneepads and confusing abuse for "love", I think they actually fear the Truth. Because...it exposes their entire value system as counterfeit, undermining everything they ever thought was "right". Its easier to embrace their delusions and deceptions even tighter.
Liberator posted on 2018-09-14 20:44:12 Reply Private Reply
#28: Liberator To: Deckard (#26)
Hey -- it's a start!
Liberator posted on 2018-09-14 20:45:49 Reply Private Reply
#29: CZ82 To: Justified (#22)
Didn't that little sack of schitt cordon off all of the memorials/parks so nobody could visit/see them??
And then some of the vets said phuck that and moved them out of the way and went about their business.
CZ82 posted on 2018-09-14 20:47:58 Reply Private Reply
#30: Deckard To: Liberator (#28)
And what happens when another Democrat is elected President - maybe even outlawing protests altogether?? Will you finally realize that the First Amendment is not a partisan issue?
Deckard posted on 2018-09-14 20:49:02 Reply Private Reply
#31: Liberator To: Justified (#22)
Yup. In your face slap in vets face.
He spitefully shut down their parks and anything that spoke to honoring vets. 0bama screwed America so often, so much, that it's hard to remember all the spiteful ways and occasions he stuck it to us all (and by "us", I mean REAL Americans, the Patriots he and Big-Foot made it clear they regard with contempt.
Liberator posted on 2018-09-14 20:49:58 Reply Private Reply
#32: Liberator To: Deckard (#30)
CW3
Liberator posted on 2018-09-14 20:50:30 Reply Private Reply
#33: Liberator To: Deckard (#30)
LMAO.
AND...you're serious?? Just...wow.
It's like you vacationed on some other planet from 2009 - 2016.
Newsflash: All the Tea Party leaders were...AUDITED. The group was forced to disband. You call that "non-partisan"??
Liberator posted on 2018-09-14 20:52:00 Reply Private Reply
#34: Justified To: Deckard (#26)
Its politics. Get use to it.
If one side is always playing by the rules and the other isn't then what good are the rules? Basically one side wins unfairly and the other side loses by playing it fair. How does that help Amerika?
All those groups are just Soro's lackeys so why worry to much.
Justified posted on 2018-09-14 20:52:25 Reply Private Reply
#35: Justified To: CZ82 (#29)
Yep!
Obama is probably the most vile president in American history.
Justified posted on 2018-09-14 20:53:48 Reply Private Reply
#36: CZ82 To: Liberator (#27)
It has to be very depressing, when they realize they've been fed schitt for so long and they believed it...
CZ82 posted on 2018-09-14 20:54:58 Reply Private Reply
#37: Deckard To: Justified, Liberator, CZ82 (#34)
When did suppressing political speech of your opponents become a Conservative ideal?
Deckard posted on 2018-09-14 20:57:39 Reply Private Reply
#38: Liberator To: CZ82, Justified, Deckard (#29)
BINGO.
The MSM said ZIP.
Liberator posted on 2018-09-14 20:58:15 Reply Private Reply
#39: Liberator To: Deckard (#37)
Liberator posted on 2018-09-14 20:59:16 Reply Private Reply
#40: CZ82 To: Justified (#35)
And the dumbest, that's how he got the nickname TOTUS. (Teleprompter Of The United States).
CZ82 posted on 2018-09-14 20:59:26 Reply Private Reply
#41: Justified To: Deckard, Liberator, CZ82 (#37)
We have had it! No more mister nice guy! This is our last stand and if we fail western society and the world will plunge into hell! So excuse me if I don't buy we have to play fair anymore.
Justified posted on 2018-09-14 21:04:33 Reply Private Reply
#42: GrandIsland To: Liberator (#19)
That needs to be stated again. Spot on.
Liberator~ I see it alright; As protection FOR CONSERVTIVES whose liberty's and free speech rights are ubiquitous QUASHED by PAID, ORGANIZED Disruptors, like Antifa-Dems mercs, BLM mercs, and other PAID disruptors of conservative venues.
We are also being silenced by fake news... as the fake news propagates antifa, queers, Black LIES... and the myth called equality.
GrandIsland posted on 2018-09-14 22:50:07 Reply Private Reply
#43: CZ82 To: hondo68 (#20)
Do you remember when that book came out written by some Secret Service guy about how bad Hilliary and Bubba were in the WH? Well it got me to thinking I wonder what all else is out there on other Presidents. So I started doing searches on some of them and that info popped up in a couple of different articles. I had heard rumors before that LBJ was a bit of a perv but I had no idea, talk about hilarious.
CZ82 posted on 2018-09-15 08:01:05 Reply Private Reply
#44: sneakypete To: Liberator (#16)
All of them?
sneakypete posted on 2018-09-15 10:11:52 Reply Private Reply
#45: sneakypete To: Justified (#35)
He just isn't that smart. In a free world where people advanced according to their abilities instead of their skin color,Obomber would be lucky to have a job carrying Bubba Bill's luggage when it comes to vile.
And Bubba Bill was only one of the most recent. King Franklin did worse,but the press covered for him in a era where they could get away with it better than they could with Bubba Bill. Back then the press OWNED all the information allowed to circulate other than private letters between individuals. No internet,no independent media.
In more recent times,there was LBJ. Nowhere near as smooth as Slick Willie,Bubba looks like a school boy compared to LBJ.
sneakypete posted on 2018-09-15 10:18:21 Reply Private Reply
#46: sneakypete To: CZ82 (#40)
Only because Goober lost in a squeaker. That boy is D..U..M dumb. Even his mother said he was too stupid to train.
sneakypete posted on 2018-09-15 10:19:51 Reply Private Reply
#47: Justified To: sneakypete (#45)
I think it was all hilary and Bill was just the vehicle to get them where she wanted. They probably had some agreement that he could sleep around as long as she ran the show. I also do not believe Chelsea is his kid.
Justified posted on 2018-09-15 10:36:53 Reply Private Reply
#48: misterwhite To: Deckard (#0)
The speech is free. The cleanup is not.
misterwhite posted on 2018-09-15 10:53:54 Reply Private Reply
#49: sneakypete To: Justified (#47)
Not a chance. She is semi-smart,but has the personality of a rattlesnake in heat. If you want to see how smart she really is,look at how she ran her campaigns. It is an exaggeration to claim she won the one in NY because it was just given to her. Every other one she has lost.
Bubba is both brilliant and charming. He married her because he needed a bag lady to collect the payments and make him seem innocent. He also needed a wife and child for political purposes..
I despise him,but Bubba is one of the smartest presidents we have ever had.
sneakypete posted on 2018-09-15 11:23:37 Reply Private Reply
#50: Liberator To: sneakypete (#44)
Need it be all?
Who made the Big Decision NOT to execute the war to win?
Who made the Big Decision to tell the VC American positions? When they might attack?
Who made the Big Decision to escalate the VN war??
Liberator posted on 2018-09-15 11:47:03 Reply Private Reply
#51: Liberator To: CZ82, Deckard (#4)
In-excusable.
And then to seriously challenge Trump's quashing of 1A liberty (as he ignores the last 2 years that Trump's own constitutional rights are still being shredded by the Feebs, Mueller Witch Hunt, and Fake Dossier. So RICH.)
I love it when Trump trolls the tards. lol...
Yeah, me too. Imagine the number of nervous breakdowns and Safe-Space overflow when Trump's wins again in 2020? HA!!
Liberator posted on 2018-09-15 11:53:07 Reply Private Reply
#52: Liberator To: Deckard (#5)
Why mention Dubya Bush? It won't help your case:
Dubya was NOT a friend of freedom or the USCON in any sense.
He was an Open Borders tool, Dem Party punching bag, Globalist Puppet who got us into the longest war in US history, was an enabler of "The Religion of Peace", AND...was actual Closet-Dem who purposely failed to vet Comrade 0bama.
(Have you forgotten how Dubya snuggles with Big-Foot Mikey at every public opportunity? What is DAT about??)
Liberator posted on 2018-09-15 12:00:59 Reply Private Reply
#53: Liberator To: hondo68 (#6)
You mean...AS various Commie-Fascist groups are openly calling for burning down the WH and promising to do-in the Prez? You're not gonna stop being a cartoon character, are you?
I recall the LBJ war protests at the WH in '67-'68. Trump has proven that he's a bigger ahole than LBJ!
Thanks for reinforcing your detachment with reality. (Q: When did you become a Maxine Waters groupie??)
Liberator posted on 2018-09-15 12:04:36 Reply Private Reply
#54: Liberator To: CZ82, hondo68 (#7)
But...but...Sgt. Hondo Schultz SEES NOTHING!!
Liberator posted on 2018-09-15 12:06:11 Reply Private Reply
#55: Liberator To: CZ82, Fred Mertz (#18)
Well, Freddy?
You have to consider that the MSM and now, the usual search engines like G00gle, Yahoo, MSM, etc are actively attempting to bury or restrict whatever skeletons they can on their Prog-Dem heroes.
Bubba was bad. But LBJ's skeletons make your skin crawl. AND THEN THERE'S BAMMY.
Liberator posted on 2018-09-15 12:10:31 Reply Private Reply
#56: Fred Mertz To: Liberator (#55)
I don't care about LBJ.
I learned today that the "Okay" hand gesture is also now a sign for white power. Whodathunkit?
Fred Mertz posted on 2018-09-15 12:17:09 Reply Private Reply
#57: Liberator To: Deckard (#25)
Yes, they have. (or perhaps you've always been more Prog then you let on).
I'm sorry if it disturbs you that I am not going all in for Trump and drinking the kool-aid like you are.
You can re-process and re-frame the narrative all you want; What you can NOT do is convince any thinking person here that the entire Dem Party, it's propaganda organ, the MSM, and all Progs and Commies aren't fascist, don't hate Trump for no good reason, lie routinely, enforce a double-standard on "freedom", AND aren't indeed conducting a "Scorched Earth" operation on America.
If anyone has "sold out" it's you. At one time you could see behind the curtain and even mocked those who put "party over principle".
Tell me -- to what "principle", ethic or morality does ANY Democrat or its party embrace?
Never has this "curtain" be exposed and to this extent. Geez, even Freepers now see the light. As one who was once way ahead of the curve, you've regressed badly. Maybe its peer pressure? Your sphere of acquaintances and friend who've gotten into your head?
Serious Question:
Do you believe the Democrat Party and its various tentacles (MSM, Social Media giants, Prog-Corporate America, Academia, and the political establishment) have declared war on Donald Trump? And "MAGA"??
Liberator posted on 2018-09-15 12:24:52 Reply Private Reply
#58: Liberator To: Fred Mertz (#56)
But...the point was this:
The MSM ignored and hid the truth about LBJ's nastiness, bullying, and horrendous behavior. But makes up lies about President Trump. You should care. Do you want the MSM filtering/controlling/manipulating public opinion based on BS??
I learned today that the "Okay" hand gesture is also now a sign for white power. Whodathunkit?
Right (I also had NO idea). But there ya go! That there helps make my point.
Liberator posted on 2018-09-15 12:29:46 Reply Private Reply
#59: Hondo68 To: Liberator, CZ82 (#54)
Well I didn't see LBJ rubbing his junk on anyone, but that doesn't mean that it didn't happen.
Was that during the time that the USS Liberty was attacked by Israel, and LBJ said that it was cool with him?
Hondo68 posted on 2018-09-15 12:31:08 Reply Private Reply
#60: Fred Mertz To: Liberator (#58)
I'd care if I could do something about it.
I've long since canceled my cable TV so I don't have to watch it. I read about it though.
Fred Mertz posted on 2018-09-15 12:31:59 Reply Private Reply
#61: Liberator To: CZ82 (#36)
Yeah -- I agree that extreme depression and likely anger their initial reaction to gulping the crap, no questions asked for so long...
But then...ecstasy and re-energized as they realize, they see the light. This #WALK AWAY has gained a lotta traction. So much so that its organizer was booted off Social Media outlets!
These people are already re-focusing their anger on converting the previously oblivious Dem-Bots to The Truth!
Liberator posted on 2018-09-15 12:37:17 Reply Private Reply
#62: Liberator To: hondo68 (#59)
And if you DID, please keep it to yourself....SOME things between consenting adult should remain private, Hondo.
Liberator posted on 2018-09-15 12:38:42 Reply Private Reply
#63: Liberator To: Fred Mertz (#60)
You can, indirectly. Just don't nod your head out there when obvious lies are getting traction. We're all just raindrops, but collectively we can be a flood of truth.
Liberator posted on 2018-09-15 12:40:53 Reply Private Reply
#64: Liberator To: GrandIsland (#42)
We are also being silenced by fake news... as the fake news propagates antifa, queers, Black LIES... and the myth called equality.
EXACTAMUNDO.
These hypocrites and their non-stop BeeEss. That "Equality" mantra was/is the biggest load.
Liberator posted on 2018-09-15 12:43:06 Reply Private Reply
#65: Hondo68 To: Liberator (#53)
When attempts to commit actual crimes occur, arrest them. Until then they get to protest and yell things that you don't like. That's what the land of the free and the home of the brave looks like in the real world.
God bless America where we're free to protest the gov, at least in theory.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-09-15 12:51:48 Reply Private Reply
#66: Fred Mertz To: Liberator (#64)
You mean thanks, Holmes.
Fred Mertz posted on 2018-09-15 12:54:19 Reply Private Reply
#67: Hondo68 To: Fred Mertz (#66)
Quit yer sniveling Homely.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-09-15 12:55:57 Reply Private Reply
#68: Liberator To: CZ82 (#43)
Gary Aldrich? 'Unlimited Access : An FBI Agent Inside the Clinton White House'? Shocking book.
Now there's Gary Byrne:
it got me to thinking I wonder what all else is out there on other Presidents. So I started doing searches on some of them and that info popped up in a couple of different articles. I had heard rumors before that LBJ was a bit of a perv but I had no idea, talk about hilarious.
Yup. LBJ, Bubba, Bammy ...wait till the authors of THOSE books stop getting threatened and arrested (*cough Dinesh D'Sousa*) and start getting published. Larry Sinclair had something to say about that. See a trend (D) here?
And for the record, many of us know all about Dubya's relationship with "reporter" Jeff Gannon.
Liberator posted on 2018-09-15 13:00:13 Reply Private Reply
#69: Fred Mertz To: hondo68 (#67)
Fred Mertz posted on 2018-09-15 13:01:02 Reply Private Reply
#70: Liberator To: hondo68 (#65)
So you're saying, "Wait for JFK's head to explode and motorcade to be Swiss Cheese before arresting anyone."
Nice plan, Magoo.
Liberator posted on 2018-09-15 13:02:36 Reply Private Reply
#71: Fred Mertz To: Liberator (#68)
Fred Mertz posted on 2018-09-15 13:02:51 Reply Private Reply
#72: Liberator To: Fred Mertz (#66)
Liberator posted on 2018-09-15 13:03:05 Reply Private Reply
#73: Liberator To: Fred Mertz (#71)
Liberator posted on 2018-09-15 13:03:24 Reply Private Reply
#74: Hondo68 To: Liberator (#70)
If I saw Poppy Bush on the grassy knoll, I'd pop 'em. If you see someone about to pitch a Molotov cocktail at the WH, then it's time to take action. If they're burning candles outside the WH in protest, that's different.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-09-15 13:25:28 Reply Private Reply
#75: Liberator To: hondo68 (#74)
Chyeah. Because Antifa's style is protesting quietly, burning candles and crying peacefully as they create that Snowflake Teddy Bear mound.
You are oblivious to the war being waged by "The Resistance".
How many Republicans HAVE THEY SHOT so far??
Liberator posted on 2018-09-15 13:50:17 Reply Private Reply
#76: calcon To: Liberator, hondo68, deckard (#75)
Make Hillary lose again !!!!!!! 2020
calcon posted on 2018-09-15 14:33:56 Reply Private Reply
#77: Hondo68 To: calcon, Adam Kokesh-Ryan Bundy 2020 (#76)
You only want Hillary to run again because she's the only candidate that Trump can beat.
Vote Adam Kokesh, get a free country
Hondo68 posted on 2018-09-15 14:53:20 Reply Private Reply
#78: sneakypete To: Liberator (#50)
The international bankers who always profit from wars,of course.
Still,THEY don't issue orders to troops or create war plans. Those are things the President and his appointees do,along with the senior military staff,who can ONLY offer suggestions,not create plans.
I will always believe that this is the big reason they drove Nixon out of office. He genuinely wanted to win the war and keep the south free. The bankers wanted to keep the conflict going forever so they could profit from interest on loans and outright ownership of defense industries. The ruling political class wanted to keep the war going to keep the checks from the international bankers flowing to their foreign bank accounts.
sneakypete posted on 2018-09-16 14:14:56 Reply Private Reply
#79: sneakypete To: Fred Mertz (#56)
Amazing,ain't it?
Then again,why is this a surprise in world where just being born white is considered to be a moral crime against humanity?
sneakypete posted on 2018-09-16 14:18:21 Reply Private Reply
#80: sneakypete To: Liberator (#64)
It is IMPOSSIBLE to pass laws making everyone equal,and still remain a free nation. Some people will ALWAYS be superior to others in some ways,and that is just the truth of humanity.
sneakypete posted on 2018-09-16 14:21:44 Reply Private Reply
#81: sneakypete To: Fred Mertz (#69)
I THINK that whole thing started and is related to the "No shit,Sherlock (Holmes)" thing,and then black guys heard it that had never heard of Sherlock Holmes,and just assumed it was "Homes",as in "homie".
Since you can't argue with gravity,they are now interchangeable.
sneakypete posted on 2018-09-16 14:24:53 Reply Private Reply
#82: sneakypete To: hondo68 (#77)
I don't want her running in 2020 because she is the closest thing the Dims have to a sane candidate.
And since SHE is batshit crazy,what does that say for the rest of them?
sneakypete posted on 2018-09-16 14:27:30 Reply Private Reply
#83: Liberator To: calcon, hondo68, deckard (#76)
(Good to see you, cal.) Hear ya. They are ostensibly DEMS.
(Can you believe this insanity here?? Sabotaging Trump = Supporting the 0bama-Klinton "Divide & Conquer" strategy. Does that inability to see the obvious make Yuklown seem normal? ;-)
Make Hillary lose again !!!!!!! 2020
If its up LF's (D) choir (who of all people *should* know better.) To them, Hitlery, Bigfoot, or whatever Marxist-Commie the Dems and Deep-Swamp run is preferable over Trump.
Liberator posted on 2018-09-18 11:21:52 Reply Private Reply
#84: Liberator To: hondo68, Deckard, Vicomte13, calcon (#77)
Dunno what political bubble you operate out of, but here's a reminder:
1) Donald Trump was ridiculed by both parties, including the MSM.
2) THEN...TRUMP BEAT 17 GOP PUPPETS/CANDIDATES in the GOP Primary
3) THEN TRUMP BEAT THE SNOT OUT OF HITLERY.
What makes that victory all the more impressive:
The corrupt 0bama-Hitlery Machine controlled the Voting Machines, were aided by the Deep State saboteurs, MSM Saboteurs, International Saboteurs, and Republican Party Establishment Saboteurs. And let's NOT forget the millions of ILLEGAL-INVADER Votes! AND STILL SHE/THEY LOST!
The Democrats-Marxists and Globalist-GOPe cabal of fascist crazies realize that THE only way Democrats win ANY national elections is via the filthy tactics of SABOTAGE. SMEAR. BLACKMAIL. INTIMIDATION (of any/all Republican candidates). And...BIG LIES...
And despite the obvious, you guys either STILL oppose Trump or are neutral.
Liberator posted on 2018-09-18 11:36:19 Reply Private Reply
#85: Liberator To: sneakypete (#78)
AGREE. (Which obviously reinforces the notion that there was - and still is - an un-named Shadow Gummint cabal that vies to control major US policies to a great degree); This is the reason President Trump and ANY one connected to him is under siege and demonized by a MSM that is owned AND operated by Shadow Gummint subsidiaries. It p*sses them off to to no end that Trump owes them NO IOU and cowtows to no one (or to few).
I will always believe that this is the big reason they drove Nixon out of office. He genuinely wanted to win the war and keep the south free. The bankers wanted to keep the conflict going forever so they could profit from interest on loans and outright ownership of defense industries. The ruling political class wanted to keep the war going to keep the checks from the international bankers flowing to their foreign bank accounts.
Absolutely THE case. Nixon was Exhibit "A" of paying the price for going against the grain of the wishes/agenda of Globalists. (The Commies-Marxists also got payback for Nixon's war against them during the '50s.)
So yes -- during the VN war, the profiteering Global-Elites/Shadow Gummint got their way. Paid in Blood. (Just as in the case of Iraq War 1 and 2.) But profiteering wasn't their only goal; The VN was the poison-poll that helped create division. For the first time we witnessed a virulent anti-Americanism, anti-Nationalism.
Liberator posted on 2018-09-18 11:53:17 Reply Private Reply
#86: Hondo68 To: Liberator, Vicomte13, calcon, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#84)
Bought into Dick & Hillary's globalist neocon revival, didn't ya?
Hondo68 posted on 2018-09-18 11:54:28 Reply Private Reply
#87: Liberator To: hondo68, Vicomte13, calcon (#86)
Are you taking the position that 0bama did NOT lie to us about Benghazi (happened because of a "movie") and ISIS ("JV-Team is beaten"); That 0bama did NOT weaken the US military?
I'm no fan of either Cheney but please go on and tell us EXACTLY what they said they was untrue or NOT good for America in that video.
TICK-TICK....
Liberator posted on 2018-09-18 12:03:15 Reply Private Reply
#88: Liberator To: sneakypete, Fred Mertz (#79)
THAT so-called "World" is one in which fake Bogeymen are rooted in hate and envy.
It's amazing we've gotten to this point. That is EXACTLY the charge the Left is advancing -- "Toxic Masculinity" and Toxic WHITE Ethnicity". (Self-loathing, sadomasochistic Homos, White Uber-Left Guilters, Antifa and BLM spearheading the Hate and CW2.)
I've noticed in nearly EVERY TV commercials, TV show (including sports), movie, newspaper and magazine -- every bit of media -- THE WHITE MALE is being eliminated (or emasculated.) OR demonized.
We ALL easily note with utter shock how this insane perception and smearing (of Whitey, of manly Men, of Conservatives, of STRAIGHTS of both genders, of Christians, of ANY and all who are in the way of a Left/NWO agenda) has gain any traction at all.
They are firing every weapon they have in order to maintain their hoaxes and lies.
They CAN'T do it without their 95% monopoly on Media -- both Mainstream & Social. And of course, Academia.
Liberator posted on 2018-09-18 12:24:35 Reply Private Reply
#89: Hondo68 To: Liberator, *Neo-Lib Chickenhawk Wars* (#87)
The Innocence of Muslims movie was HORRIBLE, but it was the Bush/Obama trained CIA ISIS students, that took out their community organizer instructors in Benghazi.
That Cheney video is a bunch of lying neocon fear mongering propaganda, just like Trump speeches. Your Saudi-Israel occupied US government is the #1 State sponsor of terrorism, aka the D&R party of Jihad.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-09-18 12:35:49 Reply Private Reply
#90: Liberator To: sneakypete, Pinguinite, CZ82, Justified, Stoner, Dead Culture Watch (#82)
Insane Suicidal Zombies? (Who want the rest of us to die and suffer WITH them??)
They have been convinced via Leftist-Demonic indoctrination that they (and the rest of us) are "guilty" of real and imagined "crimes". (A "penance" of sorts.)
It is a massive psychosis (aided and abetted largely by a Marxist/America-hating academia that's steamrolled the young, creating a large chunk of society that now NOT ONLY justifies sadomasochism, self-loathing, and self-immolation, but worships at its warped altar.
This is why we in the USA (as well as the West) are doomed to eventually clash and settle this war once and for all.
Liberator posted on 2018-09-18 12:36:32 Reply Private Reply
#91: Liberator To: hondo68 (#89)
Ok, that's good. You're getting closer...
That Cheney video is a bunch of lying neocon fear mongering propaganda, just like Trump speeches. Your Saudi-Israel occupied US government is the #1 State sponsor of terrorism, aka the D&R party of Jihad.
So...you ARE saying 0bama Inc. did NOT weaken the US military? And 0bama Inc. did NOT lie? And the 0bama-Klinton agenda was NOT to sabotage and destroy the US by a Thousand Cuts?
Please get up and move to the back of the classroom. Waaaay to the back. No wait...just leave the auditorium altogether and report to the nurse. Truth & Reality doesn't exist in your Universe.
Trump is NOT GOPe. NOT Establishment. NOT part and parcel of "Politics-as-usual". Trump is as close to "one of us" as we'll ever have in the Oval Office.
Liberator posted on 2018-09-18 12:42:43 Reply Private Reply
#92: Hondo68 To: Liberator (#91)
You left out the Dubya and Trump terrorists. It's a team effort, don't shortchange the winner Donald. He BEAT Hillary, so he's #1 terrorist in chief now! Trump won, deal with it.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-09-18 12:50:57 Reply Private Reply
#93: Liberator To: hondo68 (#92)
Please refill you medication. And ask the duty nurse to add an extra layer of wall-padding.
(you're welcome)
Liberator posted on 2018-09-18 12:58:32 Reply Private Reply
#94: Fred Mertz To: Liberator (#88)
I've noticed the same thing, especially the emasculation part, although not in every show or commercial. Just many of them.
Fred Mertz posted on 2018-09-18 14:35:51 Reply Private Reply
#95: sneakypete To: Fred Mertz (#94)
Fred,it is clear there is an established trend that is only going to get more pronounced as time passes to anyone that bothers to look.
sneakypete posted on 2018-09-20 21:01:39 Reply Private Reply