Manafort Judge to Prosecutor: Theres Tears in Your Eyes
By David Voreacos, Andrew M Harris, and Daniel Flatley
Bloomberg
August 7, 2018, 6:25 AM CDT
Tensions at the Paul Manafort fraud trial grew so heated Monday that the judge suggested that one of Robert Muellers prosecutors was crying during a discussion out of the jurys earshot, according to a transcript of the proceedings.
I understand how frustrated you are, U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III said during the discussion. In fact, theres tears in your eyes right now.
When Prosecutor Greg Andres protested that he didnt have tears in his eyes, the judge shot back: Well, theyre watery.
The exchange came during testimony by Manaforts former right-hand man, Rick Gates, who offered dramatic details about how he stole hundreds of thousands of dollars from his boss while helping him hide offshore accounts from U.S. tax authorities and defraud bankers to secure loans.
Muellers team has clashed repeatedly with Ellis, who questions the relevance of detailed evidence about Manaforts work as a political consultant in Ukraine, where prosecutors say he made more than $60 million from 2010 to 2014. Some of those confrontations continued in bench conferences that jurors and dozens of media members couldnt hear in federal court in Alexandria, Virginia.
Andres complained that Ellis was blocking him from asking important questions while placing an emphasis on moving quickly at the bank- and tax-fraud trial of Manafort, President Donald Trumps former campaign chairman. Ellis disagreed, saying he wasnt emphasizing speed over substance. The judge continued that delay is unnecessary, and prosecutors should stick to the relevant evidence.
What follows is taken from the transcript:
Look at me when youre talking to me, Ellis said to Andres.
Im sorry, judge, I was, Andres said.
No, you werent, Ellis said. You were looking down.
Because I dont want to get in trouble for some facial expression, the prosecutor said. I dont want to get yelled at again by the court for having some facial expression when Im not doing anything wrong, but trying my case.
Ellis said to another prosecutor: You must be quiet.
Im sorry, judge, Andres said.
#1: nolu chan To: All (#0)
nolu chan posted on 2018-08-07 11:21:27 Reply Private Reply
#2: Hank Rearden To: nolu chan (#0)
Some of those confrontations continued in bench conferences that jurors and dozens of media members couldnt hear in federal court in Alexandria, Virginia.
Unless they're sequestered, they'll hear about it.
Hank Rearden posted on 2018-08-07 11:30:20 Reply Private Reply
#3: nolu chan To: Hank Rearden (#2)
No chance. The trial is almost over, Ellis is the judge, and he isn't going to declare a mistrial. Ellis has been doing this for decades and does not get recused or overturned because of it.
The judge is correct to restrict them to things that are relevant.
The prosecution should be able to make the case that Manafort filed false loan applications.
nolu chan posted on 2018-08-07 11:44:17 Reply Private Reply
#4: misterwhite To: nolu chan (#0)
misterwhite posted on 2018-08-07 11:46:07 Reply Private Reply
#5: nolu chan To: misterwhite (#4)
The judge rapidly tired of hearing about how many suits Manafort had, how many closets they were in, what they were made of, and generally that Manafort lived a lavish lifestyle. He is forcing them to present evidence related to the actual criminal charges and it is getting very testy at sidebar. The witnesses are admitted liars, thieves and/or frauds with immunity deals and credibility problems.
nolu chan posted on 2018-08-07 13:11:55 Reply Private Reply
#6: nolu chan To: Hank Rearden (#2)
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-paul-manafort-fraud-trial-20180806-story.html
nolu chan posted on 2018-08-07 13:14:05 Reply Private Reply
#7: Liberator To: Hank Rearden (#2)
That is the default position of ALL Democrats-Commies, isn't it?
Ellis knows this entire case is based on nothing but smoke & warped mirrors, and a agitprop BS. I think you're right in anticipating the Dems eventual move to dismiss the Judge as "prejudicial".
Dems truly believe ALL decisions AGAINST Dems-Lefties IS "bias". OR "bigotry". OR racism/sexism/xenophobia, etc.
NOTHING should surprise us since we currently live in a State of Kangaroo Courts of public-opinion and virtual Anarchy. No longer have we a pesky pseudo-Constitution and Law to get in the way of fascist place these Dem-Left & their weaselly cousins (the GOPe colluders) plan on taking us.
Liberator posted on 2018-08-07 15:26:33 Reply Private Reply
#8: Justified To: nolu chan (#0)
Justified posted on 2018-08-07 18:10:39 Reply Private Reply
#9: nolu chan To: Justified (#8)
nolu chan posted on 2018-08-07 22:39:53 Reply Private Reply
#10: Justified To: nolu chan (#9)
Justified posted on 2018-08-08 08:57:37 Reply Private Reply
#11: nolu chan To: Liberator, Justified, Hank Rearden (#7)
I believe part of the Manafort defense was to claim that much money reflected as earned from Ukraine was never paid, so his tax returns accurately reflected what he believed to be his true and accurate income. However, the inflated figures were used on loan applications. Such argument could create reasonable doubt about Manafort's guilt regarding income tax charges, but could facilitate proving charges of falsified loan application charges. It would not be a walk, but it would be the next best thing.
Just an FYI for a court happening today, continuing from yesterday. I have seen a few reports blown out of proportion, so here is the actual Mueller motion for a curative instruction.
USA v Manafort, 18-cr-83 (9 Aug 2018) Doc 216, Government's Motion for Curative Instruction
On Thursday morning, Judge Ellis issued a curative instruction to the jury, Put aside any criticism. I was probably wrong in that," regarding Wednesday about an expert witness from the IRS having been covered by an order to exclude witnesses from the proceedings except for during their testimony.
In another update, Cindy Laporta, the CPA who testified earlier that she knew, or suspected, tax claims were fraudulent, had her employment with the Virginia accounting firm Kositzka, Wicks & Co. terminated. It is very possible her license may follow.
nolu chan posted on 2018-08-09 17:22:25 Reply Private Reply
#12: nolu chan To: Liberator, Justified, Hank Rearden (#11)
https://www.scribd.com/document/385909122/USA-v-Manafort-18-cr-83-10-Aug-2018-Doc-223-Government-s-Motion-for-Curative-Instruction
At page 1937 of the transcript, page 32 of 32 of the transcript excerpt appended to the government motion for curative instruction:
Mr. Asonye for the government.
Mr. Nanavati for defendant Paul Manafort.
nolu chan posted on 2018-08-10 14:09:09 Reply Private Reply
#13: Liberator To: nolu chan, Justified, Hank Rearden (#12)
The Gummint prosecution is embarrassing itself. But neither they, the Dems or Sessions care. It's *perception* that matters. And it provides fodder to CNN/MSNBC, lib-left MSM etal.
The Manafort Case is definitive Deep State "Because-We-Can!" weaponizing, abuse of power and Gestapo-ism, having NOTHING to do with "National Security" or "Law Enforcement". Fascinating how this turns out.
The players of the Deep State seem to be tentacles of not only 0bama's Machination, but of the International/NWO Elite's. No matter how this turns out., America is irreparably damaged (part of the NWO "Wish-List" IMO).
Nolu, if you can analyze, breakdown and editorialize your opinion on stuff like this, I know I'd appreciate it.
Liberator posted on 2018-08-10 14:27:45 Reply Private Reply
#14: nolu chan To: Liberator, Justified, Hank Rearden (#13)
https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1029115887813623809
https://twitter.com/BBuchman_CNS/status/1029121423175020546
nolu chan posted on 2018-08-13 19:05:44 Reply Private Reply
#15: nolu chan To: Liberator, Justified, Hank Rearden (#14)
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/manafort-trial-judge-snapped-mueller-s-team-because-they-re-ncna900001
nolu chan posted on 2018-08-13 19:07:31 Reply Private Reply
#16: nolu chan To: Liberator, Justified, Hank Rearden (#14)
https://www.courthousenews.com/muellers-team-rests-in-manafort-fraud-trial/
nolu chan posted on 2018-08-13 19:09:12 Reply Private Reply
#17: Liberator To: nolu chan (#15)
Liberator posted on 2018-08-14 10:49:11 Reply Private Reply
#18: Liberator To: nolu chan (#16)
Judge Eliis: "DUH. You are prosecuting a fundamentally FUBARed case. TARGET MISSED."
Prosecution:
"Ooops."
Liberator posted on 2018-08-14 10:52:20 Reply Private Reply
#19: nolu chan To: Liberator (#18)
Jury submitted four questions to the court late this afternoon (Thursday):
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#1 Judge Ellis explained that a person must own more than 50 percent of the account's profits or capital.
An FBAR is a Foreign Bank Account report.
I believe there were five contested years (2011-2015) and the Manafort defense argued that during four of these years (2012-2015) the account was shared equally by Manafort and his wife, resulting in there being no individual FBAR reporting requirement for those four years.
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#2 Judge Ellis advised the jury would have to rely on their own collective recollections of the testimony provided to define shelf company and the filing requirements related to income.
A "shelf company" is one that is created and then lies dormant with no assets or activity. When some person or entity needs a company, a shelf company can be acquired for immediate use, not needing to go through the creation process.
It is created, put on the shelf, and taken down off the shelf when someone wants to acquire an existing empty company.
Note: as distinct from shell corporation.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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#3 Judge Ellis advised that the government is not required to prove the defendant's guilt beyond all possible doubt only doubt based on reason.
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#4 Judge Ellis advised that the exhibit list could NOT be amended to include the indictment; the jury would have to rely on their own memory of the testimony.
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Jury adjourned for the day, to resume deliberations tomorrow at 9:30 a.m.
The Q&A about the FBAR reporting requirements would appear to annihilate four counts regarding reporting requirements.
The Q&A about reasonable doubt is not what the prosecution wants to hear.
nolu chan posted on 2018-08-16 20:01:59 Reply Private Reply
#20: Liberator To: nolu chan (#19)
Aaaah....thanks.
Looks good for Manafort then? Prosecution appears o be whiffing.
Ellis is a fair judge. And NOT about to be intimidated.
Liberator posted on 2018-08-17 14:09:45 Reply Private Reply