Rosfeld is a 30-year-old and has reportedly already worked for several law enforcement agencies.
Any cop will tell you that inconsistent statements often signal a person isnt telling the entire truth or is boldly lying about what happened. If Officer Rosfeld did change the story he told investigators, this could signal dishonesty on his part. But it could also indicate extreme emotional distress from the incident. The video shows the incident unfolded in seconds. Regardless of what anti-cop factions believe, police officers are tremendously affected after shootings, especially under these circumstances.
Reportedly, Officer Rosfeld has worked for various police departments, which can signal possible employee problems. Worried about lawsuits, many departments refuse to provide other employers with references because it could make them liable for negative information that prevents a person from being hired by another agency.
I know several officers whove worked for multiple departments over their careers. This does not normally mean it is a sign of a troubled officer. Most lateralsexperienced officers who join other police departmentsare fine additions to the new agency. However, in a few cases, it could suggest a problem employee.
I cant say if Rosfeld was a fine addition or a newly-acquired problem officer. However, according to the AP, when reporters asked Zappala if anything in the officers former employment records raised any concerns, Zappala said yes but didnt give any specifics. News reports show Rosfeld had just been sworn in as an East Pittsburgh police officer the day of the shooting.
Absent circumstances that make the person an imminent danger to the public, no unarmed person should ever die simply for running from the police. Still, when assessing a police officers actions, people should also take into consideration the nature of the call.
The officers hadnt stopped the car because the driver ran a red light, despite many news outlets reporting Rose ran from a traffic stop. The car police stopped matched the description of the suspect vehicle in a drive-by shooting. Such a crime means when police stop the suspect(s), they are likely to be armed. In fact, for cops, if any suspect has not been physically searched by an officer, the suspect cannot be assumed to be unarmed. Endemically heightening the officers suspicions and concerns were evident bullet holes in the suspect vehicles auto body, as reported by Boston.com.
Rather universal in law enforcement agencies, the general protocol in my department for the situation described in this incident would probably have been to do what we called a felony or high-risk stop. That means, pulling the suspect car over, and officers taking up positions of cover, guns drawn. Then an officer would communicate with the suspects by voice or amplified through the cars PA system. The officer would give commands for suspects to get out of the car, one person at time. Each suspect would walk backward toward the officers where he or she would be taken into custody and brought to a waiting patrol car. Other officers would cover the suspect car until the final passenger was in custody and the vehicle was cleared.
If an occupant chooses to bail out and run, if there are enough officers, some may chase the suspect. If not, an officer will via radio broadcast the description and direction of travel of the suspect who ran. I was involved in many situations like this.
This distinction in approaches is not meant to criticize the officers procedures here prior to the shooting. Every situation is different. I dont know; I wasnt there. I admit there were times in my career my fellow officers and I did not use a high-risk stop when we probably should have. I only use the example to illustrate how differently the same incident could be handled depending on personnel and circumstances. Another officer would probably give another example. In police work, there are many right and wrong ways to do things.
I dont know the level of risk the officers perceived under their specific circumstances when they stopped the car. I suppose it could have been a traffic stop, but nothing in the reporting I read indicates the driver committed any traffic infractions to induce the stop. So, Im assuming the officers stopped the car specifically to investigate it and the occupants for the shooting.
As I mentioned above, according to reports, Rose was sitting in the front passengers seat, in a car with another teen, Zaijuan Hester, who was sitting in the backseat. After running from police, Hester was later located and arrested for a drive-by shooting committed earlier while reports say Rose was present and for which the officers had initially stopped the vehicle.
So, while, according to witnesses, Rose did not do the shooting, there are some concerning factors for him, too:
- Why was Rose a passenger in a car matching the description of a car used in a drive-by shooting, riding with Hester who was later arrested for that shooting, and in which two guns were found?
- Why, when stopped by the police, did Rose and Hester both bail out of the car and run from the cops rather than cooperate?
- Why did investigators find an empty gun magazine in Roses pocket? Did the magazine correspond to either gun?
None of these factors exonerate Rosfeld or explain his decision to shoot, but it adds to the totality of the circumstances and provides a greater perspective. Anti-cop factions love to point to shootings like this as evidence of cops indiscriminately shooting unarmed young black men. But there are many respected studies that show this is a myth. Incidentally, about this myth, if you have the time, its worth reading Larry Elders recent enlightening column on this issue.
On paper (and on video), without context and with emotions running high, hunting people is what some people want it to look like the cops are doing. But after critically thinking about the incident, we learn this is the first on-duty shooting Rosfeld has been involved in. And we cant deny Rose made obvious mistakes that contributed to this tragedy, the biggest of which was fleeing.
Leonard Hammonds II was angry that an officer had his hand on a weapon during a rally to protest the shooting death of Antwon Rose by East Pittsburgh police. A police officers prerogative is gun retention among an angry mob. (Credit: Facebook/Michael Ashley)
Cynical, anti-cop folks will say Rose ran because he was afraid the cops would shoot him. However, if the cop planned to shoot the suspect, he could have done it at any time during the encounter. Remember, Hester was in the backseat allegedly armed with two guns at the time and Rose was in the front seat. But the officers were taking the cars driver (later determined to be an unlicensed gypsy cabbie) into custody, apparently without incident, when the teens decided to escape. Every indication before the shooting seems to show the officers would have taken each teen into custody the same way.
Like proverbial dominoes, Officer Rosfeld didnt shoot until Rose and Hester ran from the police. Had Rose not run, its likely Rosfeld would not have shot him. If Rose hadnt been in a car with Hester, a reportedly armed suspect in a drive-by shooting who allegedly shot a man while Rose was present, the police wouldnt have stopped the car to investigate in the first place. These facts may be uncomfortable, but they are a part of the totality of the circumstances people, especially young men, need to know about to avoid such incidents in the future.
My point: though this situation is truly tragic, it does not prove that cops are indiscriminately shooting innocent people in the streets. Roses family and friends have every reason to be distraught and angry at this tragic end to their 17-year-old loved ones lifeI would be if it were my son. Id be pissed. Id be livid. Id probably be inconsolable for a long time. Still, eventually, even in the quiet of my thoughts, Id have to ask myself why my son was in a car with a suspected drive-by shooter allegedly armed with two guns, why my son had a gun magazine in his pocket, and why he chose to run from the police. Thats why the public generally needs to assess the totality of these situations soberly and affix responsibility where it belongsall of it. And, of course, wait until the investigation is completed and dont blame all cops for what a few may do.
This incident seems to have resulted from the culmination of many bad decisions: Roses decision to be in the company of an alleged felon and Rosfelds decision to shoot in a situation that does not appear to have been justified.
Critical thinking also demands other questions be asked:
- Were Hester and Rose riding together or separately as passengers in the Gypsy cab?
- If together, then Rose might have been at least culpable for remaining in the car after the shooting and not reporting the crime to the police.
- If not together, then why would Rose stay in the car after the shooting?
- Was Hester holding the cabbie hostage and forcing him to drive?
- Was Hester holding Rose hostage, too?
- If so, then why did Rose run with Hester when the police were taking the cabbie into custody?
- If Rose was not with Hester, why not stay in the car when Hester ran?
There are so many unanswered questions. But none of these questions exonerates Rosfeld for firing those shots thats on him. But it also cant be denied that Roses decisions put himself in grave danger that night. Running from the police is never a good idea. But running from a criminal investigation involving firearms is the worst idea.
But, once again we see an alleged bad shooting resulting not from cops hunting people down in the streets, as some would have you believe, but while conducting a legitimate criminal investigation into a persons illegal actions. Even if Rose didnt pull the trigger in the car during the drive-by shooting, it is illegal to run from the police while they are conducting an investigation of which you are a part.
As I say so often, cops dont have crystal balls. They cant immediately believe what the cabbie said at the scene about what Rose and Hester had done or not done in the car. The police have to verify the drivers involvement with additional investigation. Its likely the driver was brought to the station to speak with detectives and provide a written statement.
At the time the two young men ran, the officers hadnt had much time to interview the driver. Im guessing the information about who shot and who did not shoot the weapon during the drive-by shooting came out later, not at the scene. Not knowing who did what, the police officers likely believed Rose and Hester were running away to evade arrest for the drive-by shooting. The officers could not know for sure if they were armed when they ran or not. Remember, the cops had the right car and the right suspect who allegedly had two guns with him which were found in the backseat.
Nothing can alleviate the tragedy for Antwon Roses family. There are no words, there are neither discoveries to be made nor prosecutions to be carried out that will reduce the pain and anguish one bit. Id just ask that people refrain from condemning all police for this act, which may eventually be determined to have been a mistaken, negligent, reckless, or intentional homicide by one individual police officer.
https://www.opslens.com/2018/07/03/east-pittsburgh-shooting-a- sober-look-at-a-true-tragedy/
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