| Libertarians on Libertys Post now find it perfectly acceptable to pursue the tyrannical practice of blacklisting anyone whose words offend their delicate sensibilities.
Unfortunately these narrow-minded individuals do not realize that the best remedy to validate their political ideology is to catechize remarks that disparage it by subjecting them to the crucible of open debate and rational inspection. Libertarians continually fail to show tolerance and adhere to cherished libertarian values while abdicating all confidence that their ideas will handily defeat opposition to their philosophy. Libertarians propose the impossible and internally contradictory notion that they can support their cause with the angry suppression of free speech from anyone who speaks against them. They feel the remedy for comments and ideas they oppose is not the free and open debates of civil society, but a need to resort to Orwellian speech codes of an authoritarian dictatorship. Here, again, libertarians reveal their philosophy is a radical departure from a normal society and their unique iteration of fascism shares many of its historical and ideological roots. Freedom of speech is arguably a most cherished value and the bedrock of a genuinely free society. The entire process of education and the freedom to challenge ideas is, and must be, predicated on unbridled freedom of speech and expression. Without this most cherished freedom, supporting and challenging ideas cannot be examined and assessed for their value and we will therefore live in a benighted world in which ideas are lost forever .flushed down the memory hole as too dangerous or offensive to the dainty sensibilities of libertarians who find these words offend them. The validity of libertarian notions has been questioned and a morally consistent application of libertarian premises has been challenged in order to show why libertarians are mistaken about what their ideal requires. Libertarians generally defend the ideal of freedom from the perspective of how little one is constrained. Yet pragmatic criticisms of libertarianism now go unanswered because libertarians have moved to silence free speech. Sad, but so understandably predictable based on their rhetoric and actions. Most of us arent defeated in one decisive battle. We are defeated in one tiny, seemingly insignificant surrender at a time that chips away at who we really should be.Pathetic |
Libertarians on Libertys Post suppress dissent Sad.
| Source: | None |
| Published: | Jul 15, 2018 |
| Author: | Gatlin |
| Post Date: | 2018-07-15 06:51:33 by Gatlin |
| Views: | 46214 |
#51: Deckard To: Stoner (#47)
What else does he have in his life, the delusional SOB?
It is amazing to me why someone would expend that much time and effort to do that. To what benefit ?
I suppose in his dementia, it must give him a false sense of superiority over others. And he thrives on negative feedback from others - rather pathetic if you ask me.
All we can really do is pity the poor senile sot.
Much like we did with yukon, whom Gatlin is channeling more and more by the day. And his biggest cult followers are GrandIsland, misterwhite and Boris - that tells you something right there.
Deckard posted on 2018-07-17 09:42:17 Reply Private Reply
#52: Gatlin To: Stoner (#50)
Now, where are the photos of McCain with members of the Muslim Brohterhood?
Silence or no photos posted will be considered an admission that you were mistaken.
You asshole, simply admit you can produce no such photos
Gatlin posted on 2018-07-17 09:55:29 Reply Private Reply
#53: Gatlin To: Stoner (#47)
Admit, you cant show any .ADMIT IT.
Gatlin posted on 2018-07-17 09:58:01 Reply Private Reply
#54: Stoner To: Gatlin (#53)
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgflip.com%2F18coot.jpg&f=1
Stoner posted on 2018-07-17 10:08:10 Reply Private Reply
#55: Gatlin To: Stoner, Deckard, CZ82 (#54)
No, it is you who is the dumb ass. The link you posted is to this picture.
There is NOT a SINGLE member of the Muslim Broherhood in THAT photo.
You say the web is full of photos of McCain with members of the Muslim Brotherhood.
I say you are a damned liar and no such photos exits of McCain with members of the Muslim Broherhood now TRY to prove me wrong.
Gatlin posted on 2018-07-17 10:23:59 Reply Private Reply
#56: Deckard To: Stoner (#54)
Now he's trying to claim that ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood are not related.
Is there any end to his madness?
The Muslim Brotherhoods Ties to ISIS and Al-Qaeda
Before ascending to the highest positions of ISIS and al-Qaeda, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, Osama bin Laden, and Ayman al-Zawahiri belonged to a common ideological precursor, the Muslim Brotherhood. The trajectories of these three extremist leaders highlight the significant ideological overlap between todays most notorious violent Islamist groupsISIS and al-Qaedaand the worldwide Muslim Brotherhood movement.
Deckard posted on 2018-07-17 10:33:11 Reply Private Reply
#57: Stoner To: Deckard (#56)
No, not really. He is only happy if he is here trashing the place.
He is like a bad case of a STD. He is proving again that he is like Shitlerly. He does nothing more than be obnoxious, irritate everyone, and will not go away.
He has noting else to do with his life, other than be a boil on everyone's ass !
What a sad miserable life he has !!!
What a dumbass !!!
Stoner posted on 2018-07-17 11:16:07 Reply Private Reply
#58: Hondo68 To: Gatlin, Canary Muslim Brotherhood, *Arab Spring Jihad* (#55)
+John F. Kerry - Senate Muslim Brotherhood
More Jihad funding, kill the infidels!
All in the D&R terrorist family.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-07-17 11:17:58 Reply Private Reply
#59: Gatlin To: Deckard, Stoner, CZ82, EVERYBODY (#56)
SPIN .SPIN .SPIN .
I am trying to make NO such claim.
I am only showing that Stoner EMPHATICALLY stated there were photos (two or more) showing McCain with members of the Muslim Brotherhood. When there definitely are NONE
So, I made a mistake by typing Libertys Post when I meant to type Libertys Flame.
And then Stoner tried to make a Federal issue out of that mistake by calling all his fellow assholes together while he took bows.
There can never be madness to making statements that are ACCURARE and TRUTHFUL. Not mistakenly identifying one group as a different group. But of course you will never realize this. I dont give a fuck that the Muslim Brotherhood has ties to both ISIS and Al_Qaeda. The Muslim Brotherhood is NOT ISIS or Al-Qaeda.Stoner SPECIFICALLY posted there were photos (two or more) showing McCain with members of the Muslim Brotherhood. He posted something that is untrue .TOTALLY UNRUE.
And you, Deckard, need to cease immediately trying to cover up Stoners fuck up.
So, I am here today to show Stoner, and the rest of you for that matter, that KARMA really is a BITCH.
There can be NO question that Stoner meant to state ISIS when he stated Muslim Brotherhood. Jut as I meant ot state Libertys Flame when I stated Libertys Post.
He made a mistake, just as I made a mistake. He gave me Hell fo rmy mistake and now he stand silent about his mistake .while you try to act as his mouthpiece.
Since I have now rubbed Stoners nose in his own shit, I feel completely vindicated. Thank you, Stoner.
I close this post by citing the Golden Rule: All you libertarian heathens MAY remember the "Golden Rule" was given by Jesus of Nazareth in (Matthew 7:12 NCV ( see also Luke 6:31). The common English phrasing is "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
Read that carefully, Stoner. And try .TRY .to apply it in your daily life, and especially to your postings on LF.
Gatlin posted on 2018-07-17 11:24:10 Reply Private Reply
#60: Gatlin To: Stoner, Deckard (#57)
The remainder of your post is a personal attack. Someone resorts to personal attacks when they cannot present the truth or deny truth when it is presented to them.
All you are is Deckards echo chamber and cheerleader.
You really should get a life of your own.
But you cant can you?
You have become a parasite hanging onto Deckard.
Look at you now .sucking up to him and hiding in his shadow.
Sad
Gatlin posted on 2018-07-17 11:33:11 Reply Private Reply
#61: Gatlin To: hondo68 (#58)
Do you have photos of McCain with members of the Muslim Brotherhood?
Gatlin posted on 2018-07-17 11:44:02 Reply Private Reply
#62: Deckard To: Gatlin, Stoner (#59)
Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against their own unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others.
For example, a person who is habitually intolerant may constantly accuse other people of being intolerant. It incorporates blame shifting.
Projection... is commonly found in the neurotic or psychotic in personalities functioning at a primitive level as in narcissistic personality disorder or borderline personality disorder.
Deckard posted on 2018-07-17 11:45:18 Reply Private Reply
#63: Gatlin To: Stoner, Deckard, CZ82 (#62)
Just as I fucked up when I typed Libertys Post instead of Libertys Flame.
So, the next time you try to launch a personal attack on me and ridicule something I posted .you damned well best make sure your house is in, and stays in proper order .because I will be coming back after your ass AGAIN.
BTW The people in the photo Deckard posted and the one you showed an URL to may have all been misidentified. You can check this out by starting here with Snopes. If you dont want to believe Snopes, then there are many other sites who say the same thing. Look them up if you need to.
A photograph taken in Syria in 2013 shows Senator John McCain posing with a commander of a Syrian opposition group, not ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.
This is ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. He has a 10 million dollar bounty on his head and it is not likely that he would be meeting a US Senator with all the Senators security around. Also, it is reported that he had a beard when the group picture above was taken and he still had the beard after that picture wastaken.
Gatlin posted on 2018-07-17 12:14:21 Reply Private Reply
#64: Hondo68 To: Gatlin, Hillarys Freedom Fighters (#61)
Thank you for your honesty in admitting that McCain & Lindsey are Muslim Brotherhood, although it's painfully obvious that you're dazed and confused.
Perhaps this pic will help to clear things up for you...
Rubio, Graham, McCain with Hillary's ISIS Muslim Brotherhood in Libya.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-07-17 12:26:16 Reply Private Reply
#65: Gatlin To: Deckard (#62)
I definitely do unto others as I would have them do unto me.
When I do something wrong, and I do remember one time that I did .I expect others to come after me the same as I go after them.
This was just proven in the last posts I made
I would have Stoner do unto me when he posted my mistake in typing Libertys Post instead of Libertys Flame. And I did unto Stoner what I would have him do unto me when I posted the mistake he made by misidentifying ISIS as the Muslim Brotherhood. ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood are NOT one and the same entity. They are entirely different.
So, THERE .you can now take your copy and paste psychology and shove it far up your libertarian ass.
Gatlin posted on 2018-07-17 12:26:37 Reply Private Reply
#66: VxH To: Gatlin (#63)
Juan McCain, The Admiral's Military Industrial Teat-suckling son.
Perhaps in the next life he'll hatch from his tiny little chry$ali$ and become the mighty war moth he always wanted to be?
VxH posted on 2018-07-17 12:31:16 Reply Private Reply
#67: Gatlin To: hondo68, Deckard, Stoner (#64)
First of all, you are as stupid as Stoner .There is NO ISIS Muslim Brotherhood.
Secondly, as to the photo you posted:
All that is shown here is a bunch of Libyans smiling and making peaceful gestures unto three US Senators.
You may go now and get back to me when you can specifically point out and name any person in that group of Libyans that is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.
You really do need to stop making up LIES
Gatlin posted on 2018-07-17 12:44:59 Reply Private Reply
#68: Gatlin To: VxH (#66)
Gatlin posted on 2018-07-17 12:48:41 Reply Private Reply
#69: VxH To: Gatlin (#68)
Au contraire. Those memes (that's plural, Gatard) succinctly illustrate the nature of Juan and his like-minded Military Industrial parasites - with their probosci inserted firmly between the left and right arse cheeks of the "republic".
VxH posted on 2018-07-17 13:02:51 Reply Private Reply
#70: Liberator To: Tooconservative, Stoner, Deckard (#38)
The "payoff" for a mental case or 4 year old is...attention.
But also it's the pathology of a bad actor exposed; a Leftist-Authoritarian ideologue with nothing left to do but stomp his/her feet.
Liberator posted on 2018-07-17 13:05:56 Reply Private Reply
#71: Liberator To: hondo68 (#64)
Wow.
Liberator posted on 2018-07-17 13:09:04 Reply Private Reply
#72: Liberator To: Stoner (#54)
No, the poor embarrassing ACLU fool does NOT want more reinforcement that he's lost. And lost badly.
Liberator posted on 2018-07-17 13:13:03 Reply Private Reply
#73: Gatlin To: VxH (#69)
You replied to a post where discussion was about a photo of McCain with members of the Muslim Brotherhood.
Specifically: The people in the photo Deckard posted and the one you showed an URL to may have all been misidentified.
Your meme and incoherent rambling had absolutely nothing to do with the discussion.
I am only going to tell you one more time....FUcK OFF !!!
Gatlin posted on 2018-07-17 13:13:45 Reply Private Reply
#74: Hondo68 To: Gatlin, snowflake, triggered by free speech, VxH (#68)
Only Gatlin has the free speech, us peons must STFU!
Yass, massa.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-07-17 13:14:39 Reply Private Reply
#75: VxH To: Gatlin (#68)
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VxH posted on 2018-07-17 13:14:39 Reply Private Reply
#76: VxH To: Gatlin (#73)
McCain with members of the Muslim Brotherhood.
VxH posted on 2018-07-17 13:19:53 Reply Private Reply
#77: Gatlin To: Liberator, Stoner (#72)
Stoner LIED. The web is NOT full of photos showing McCain with members of the Muslim Brotherhood.
Smartass. you CANNOT even find ONE photo where Stoner claims shows McCain with members of the Muslim Brotherhood.
You are contributing NOTHING factual to the discussion at hand.
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Gatlin posted on 2018-07-17 13:23:07 Reply Private Reply
#78: Gatlin To: hondo68, the proclaimed lying asshole on LF (#74)
Until someone can do that .they need to STFU.
If you have a problem with that .then thats your PERSONAL problem.
Take care of it however you can .but dont dare TRY to bother me with it.
Gatlin posted on 2018-07-17 13:31:22 Reply Private Reply
#79: Liberator To: VxH (#76)
Why just now is someone in the GOP demanding the indictment of Hitlery?? It's truly amazing to watch factions of Republican Party openly collude with the Dems to openly take down America and the President.
Liberator posted on 2018-07-17 13:47:49 Reply Private Reply
#80: VxH To: Liberator (#79)
Pssst:
"Published on Aug 11, 2016"
Meanwhile, in Banana Land:
I guess some folks just underestimated (D)onald's tribal affinity, or something.
VxH posted on 2018-07-17 14:02:38 Reply Private Reply
#81: Gatlin To: Liberator, VxH, Stoner, Deckard, hondo68, Everyone (#79)
Secondly, you say that Rand Paul SAID it.
Wow!!!
So, because the almighty Rand Paul said it .then it is absolutely verified to be FACTUAL and completely believed beyond a shadow of a doubt?
Uh, I dont think so.
The answer to the rhetorical question I posed is an unmitigated and resounding, HELL NO !!!
Rand Paul was duped .you hear me, duped . as were a few other people.
Snopes and others have shown this rumor not to be true. Knowing you will never believe Snopes, then lets go to another source that you also may or may not believe, The New York Times:
The libertarian senator claims John McCain was pictured with the jihadists, even though that's been proven false.
In an interview with The Daily Beast on Tuesday, Sen. Rand Paul discussed the war against ISISand in doing so, repeated a thoroughly debunked rumor about John McCain palling around with the Islamic extremist group. Needless to say, a certain famously hot-tempered five-term senator and former presidential candidate was not at all amused.
Heres the problem, Paul told The Daily Beast. He [McCain] did meet with ISIS, and had his picture taken, and didnt know it was happening at the time. That really shows you the quandary of determining who are the moderates and who arent. If you dont speak Arabic, and you dont understand that some people will lie to youI really think that we dont have a good handle on who are the moderates and who arent, and I think the objective evidence is that the ones doing most of the fighting and most of the battles among the rebels in Syria are the radical Islamists.
Heres the other problem: The rumor that McCain met with ISIS in northern Syria in May 2013 has been proven false. As reported by The New York Times, pictures of McCain meeting with members of the Free Syrian Armywho have historically opposed ISIShave been seized upon by conspiracy theorists and McCain skeptics, some of whom have gone as far as to photoshop McCain pinning a medal on the chest of ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. Emboldening believers is the fact that McCain sometimes misspeaks, like on Monday evening on Fox News, when he asked "Has Rand Paul ever been to Syria? Has he ever met with ISIS?"
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John McCain 1 / Rand Paul 0.
Gatlin posted on 2018-07-17 15:04:36 Reply Private Reply
#82: Gatlin To: VxH (#75)
Adjective
ass hole
Gatlin posted on 2018-07-17 15:17:59 Reply Private Reply
#83: VxH To: Gatlin (#81)
{ shrug } I guess Omar Ibrahim al-Deeb didn't get the memo.
Disappeared Muslim Brotherhood member re-emerges with ISIS
https://thearabweekly.com/disappeared-muslim-brotherhood- member-re-emerges-isis
VxH posted on 2018-07-17 16:14:49 Reply Private Reply
#84: VxH To: Gatlin (#82)
A while back I worked with a drunk who, every year at our company Christmas party, used to love telling the story about how he called Robert Redford an "asshole" when he was assigned a seat next to RR on a plane.
I explained that RR was simply responding to the disingenuous way he asked for RR's autograph; and raised the possibility that maybe RR wasn't the real asshole in his seating section.
The Drunk never told that story at our Christmas party again.
YMMV!
VxH posted on 2018-07-17 16:48:50 Reply Private Reply
#85: CZ82 To: Gatlin (#46)
No? Then I must be thinking of he incident where you claimed you could shut the website down anytime you wanted, my mistake.
CZ82 posted on 2018-07-17 18:59:56 Reply Private Reply
#86: Gatlin To: CZ82 (#85)
That was buckeroo who said he could do that ..I remember that really well.
He actually did it late one night when we were the only two on the forum.
Gatlin posted on 2018-07-17 19:34:22 Reply Private Reply
#87: GrandIsland To: CZ82 (#85)
That M. O. belongs to Ba ba ba Bucky the stupid Fucky. Not Gatlin.
Id like to point out you hobknob with Buckster and all the paultards. What you just did to Gatlin is piss on him, then tell him its raining. Another M.O. of paultards
GrandIsland posted on 2018-07-17 19:40:20 Reply Private Reply
#88: CZ82 To: Gatlin (#55)
You sure about that?
Don't you recognize Mouaz Moustafa (on the far right in your pic) who is the head of the Syrian Emergency Task Force (SETF)? HINT: Which BTW is part of the Muslim Brotherhood.
CZ82 posted on 2018-07-17 19:44:07 Reply Private Reply
#89: CZ82 To: Gatlin, buckeroo (#86)
Not. It was when she was away on vacation or lying dead on the floor of her abode, one or the other. And I very clearly remember telling you and the Canaries you were all full of shit and then your backpedaling started and "magically" LP stayed online, go figure.
Why didn't you ping Bucky to this so he could comment? (That could be amusing).
You know I just got to thinking didn't Stone close out all of your other logons you had here? Wasn't it about 10-15 or so? You still have the 7 bozos I gave you or has Stone done you a favor and gotten rid of them?
CZ82 posted on 2018-07-17 19:49:57 Reply Private Reply
#90: CZ82 To: GrandIsland, buckeroo (#87)
By the way why don't you ask buckeroo how many times I've posted to him over the years, 10 times maybe...
CZ82 posted on 2018-07-17 20:11:25 Reply Private Reply
#91: CZ82 To: Gatlin (#55)
CZ82 posted on 2018-07-17 20:44:50 Reply Private Reply
#92: GrandIsland To: CZ82 (#90)
Wow... that was a quick denial from you... but youve always been paultard connected by way of agreeing with them all. Even if youve only agreed with Ba ba ba Fucky 10 times.
GrandIsland posted on 2018-07-17 21:26:38 Reply Private Reply
#93: Gatlin To: CZ82 (#88)
Yes, he is.
Actually, Mouaz Moustafa is SETFs executive-director and he is a former field organizer for the U.S. Democratic National Committee and previously served as executive-director of the Libyan Council of North America.
I dont know where you are getting that information.Can you please provide the URL source?
Here is the information I have:
The Syrian Emergency Task Force (SETF) is a United States-based organization that advocates for the armed overthrow of the government of Syria. It first gained widespread public attention in the wake of the Elizabeth O'Bagy resume padding scandal; O'Bagy had served as a paid lobbyist for the group. The group's primary activity is advocating for U.S. military involvement in the Syrian Civil War through congressional office visits, media awareness campaigns, and organizing junkets for key U.S. foreign policy decisionmakers.[1] According to SETF, it is also committed to supporting the overthrow of the government of Cuba;[2] a statement co-signed by it and the Florida-based Cuban exile organization "Assembly of the Resistance" declared it would work for "the overthrow of the dictatorial regimes of Assad and Castro."[3]
SETF is indirectly funded by the U.S. State Department through contracting firms including Chemonics and Creative Associates International.[4]
SETF officials - including Moustafa and Chesley - have been widely cited in media reports on the Syrian Civil War and have been influential in advising United States policymakers on issues related to Syria. According to the group, SETF staff have held meetings with more than two-thirds of the membership of the U.S. Congress and have organized junkets for members of congress to visit selected regions in northern Syria.[2]
In 2013, an op-ed by political director Elizabeth O'Bagy was cited by Senator John McCain and U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry during congressional hearings on possible U.S. military involvement in the Syrian Civil War.[11] O'Bagy was subsequently hired by McCain as a legislative assistant in the Arizona senator's Washington, D.C. office.
It is your allegation and it is your charge to prove it.
Gatlin posted on 2018-07-17 22:31:30 Reply Private Reply
#94: Gatlin To: CZ82, A K A Stone, CZ82 has a question for your (#89)
Why didnt YOU ping Stone so he could answer that question.
I will ping Stone for you now .then you can ask him.
There you goGatlin posted on 2018-07-17 23:00:45 Reply Private Reply
#95: Gatlin To: CZ82 (#91)
Is the meme the one you use to masturbate with, or do you atill have an old photo of Hillary you use?
Gatlin posted on 2018-07-17 23:06:32 Reply Private Reply
#96: Gatlin To: CZ82 (#88)
I found this;
That is not surprising thought.
How are you coming on proving that it is?
Gatlin posted on 2018-07-17 23:32:33 Reply Private Reply
#97: nolu chan To: Stoner, Tooconservative, Deckard, Gatlin (#22)
FYI, the Liberty Post archives are still there.
nolu chan posted on 2018-07-17 23:41:32 Reply Private Reply
#98: Hondo68 To: nolu chan, redacted, censored, revisionist history, buckeroo, Fred Mertz (#97)
It's revisionist history, censored to protect the guilty.
The yukon canary story - redacted
Hondo68 posted on 2018-07-18 00:00:56 Reply Private Reply
#99: nolu chan To: hondo68 (#98)
The internet lives forever.
Just so you do not feel cheated.
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March 27th was a Sunday.
yukon posted the article on LP at 2011-03-27 01:39:54 ET
Less than a minute later, yukon on LP posted to Goldi, "I used the wrong link" at 2011-03-27 1:40:47 ET
It was on TPF at 2011-03-27 11:50:22 [dead site]
It was on F4um at 2011-03-27 13:14:48
It was all over LF at 2011-03-27 17:03:49
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nolu chan posted on 2018-07-18 01:13:29 Reply Private Reply
#100: Gatlin To: VxH (#84)
I get it
Gatlin posted on 2018-07-18 05:05:19 Reply Private Reply