Kool Pick! Should go through the Senate seamlessly.
Trump nominates Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court
| Source: | YouTube |
| Published: | Jul 9, 2018 |
| Author: | staff |
| Post Date: | 2018-07-09 21:25:39 by buckeroo |
| Views: | 24973 |
| Source: | YouTube |
| Published: | Jul 9, 2018 |
| Author: | staff |
| Post Date: | 2018-07-09 21:25:39 by buckeroo |
| Views: | 24973 |
Kool Pick! Should go through the Senate seamlessly.
#17: Hondo68 To: Gatlin (#16)
Fake News!
Hondo68 posted on 2018-07-10 09:34:52 Reply Private Reply
#18: Gatlin To: hondo68 (#17)
Gatlin posted on 2018-07-10 10:04:11 Reply Private Reply
#19: Hank Rearden To: no gnu taxes (#2)
He's saving Amy to replace the bridge troll next year.
Leftists are going to explode once they realize he'll have all the picks on his short list on the Court by 2024.
SCOTUS is the only reason Trump got my vote, but I'm thoroughly impressed with other aspects of his administration so far. He's got my vote in 2020.
Hank Rearden posted on 2018-07-10 10:34:55 Reply Private Reply
#20: Hondo68 To: Hank Rearden, luke21 (#19)
Karl Rove approved, good to go.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-07-10 10:55:30 Reply Private Reply
#21: sneakypete To: hondo68 (#1)
He's a Jesuit? Seriously?
Being associated with the Bush Crime Family was bad enough,but THAT,if true,should be the kiss of death for the SC.
sneakypete posted on 2018-07-10 11:01:56 Reply Private Reply
#22: sneakypete To: Vicomte13 (#5)
You say that just like it's something anyone sane would be proud to shout.
sneakypete posted on 2018-07-10 11:03:09 Reply Private Reply
#23: sneakypete To: Fred Mertz (#6)
They are like PR hacks that warm up the "audiences" for the fundie Catholics that dream of once again ruling the western world and setting fire to anyone that disagrees with them.
sneakypete posted on 2018-07-10 11:04:44 Reply Private Reply
#24: sneakypete To: Vicomte13 (#10)
Since you have just proven yourself to be completely insane,nothing you post in the future has any value.
sneakypete posted on 2018-07-10 11:06:10 Reply Private Reply
#25: sneakypete To: GrandIsland (#14)
That doesn't "Read" like a 2nd Amendment defense to me. To ME,it reads like a bitch they didn't dot their "i's" and cross their "t's".
He was NOT complaining about their desire to limit American Constitutional Freedoms,he was bitching because it was a poorly-done job.
sneakypete posted on 2018-07-10 11:09:05 Reply Private Reply
#26: nolu chan To: sneakypete, GrandIsland (#25)
Kavanaugh DISSENT at 2-3, Heller II, 670 F.3d 1244 (DC Cir 10-7036, 2011)
nolu chan posted on 2018-07-10 11:40:44 Reply Private Reply
#27: Vicomte13 To: sneakypete (#24)
Not a fan of Catholicism, I see.
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-07-10 12:28:28 Reply Private Reply
#28: Vicomte13 To: sneakypete (#23)
Nah. That's not what we Catholics are about.
What we're about is family, babies and social welfare/poverty relief.
We oppose the death penalty because of the corruption and unreliability of the human judicial process.
We oppose war other than necessary defensive war.
We're social conservatives and fiscal liberals.
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-07-10 12:31:22 Reply Private Reply
#29: Hondo68 To: sneakypete, Jesuit Trump family, Catholic yutes (#21)
Is the Pope Catholic?
Trump chose a judge reared in Washingtons finest Jesuit institutions, including Georgetown Preparatory School. Kavanaugh, who serves on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, is active in several Catholic organizations in the area. Trump pointed out that he coaches his daughters Catholic Youth Organization basketball team.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2018/07/08/catholics-on-the-court-the-historic-struggle-between-canon-and-constitutional-law/?utm_term=.08490fd4fdc3
Both of Trump's SCOTUS justices Gorsuch & Kavanaugh, attended the same Jesuit high school.
If one SCOTUS Jesuit is good, then two is better right?
Hondo68 posted on 2018-07-10 12:49:18 Reply Private Reply
#30: sneakypete To: nolu chan (#26)
Thank you. That one sentence changes the entire intent of the rest of what he wrote.
sneakypete posted on 2018-07-10 13:37:07 Reply Private Reply
#31: sneakypete To: Vicomte13 (#27)
Or Islam,or any other slave cult.
sneakypete posted on 2018-07-10 13:37:46 Reply Private Reply
#32: sneakypete To: hondo68 (#29)
It doesn't matter if they are Jesuits,or Thomas Jefferson and George Washington brought back to life,if Trump recommended them,you would hate them and find fault.
You are one of those sad people who just ain't happy unless you are mad.
sneakypete posted on 2018-07-10 13:40:49 Reply Private Reply
#33: Liberator To: no gnu taxes (#2)
I agree.
But he's cornered the Dems by doing so. IF they reject him (as I expect), the NEXT picks will only be further RIGHT.
Liberator posted on 2018-07-10 13:45:41 Reply Private Reply
#34: Liberator To: buckeroo, Gatlin (#3)
BUMMER!!
(He and Ruth Buzzi Ginsburg would have been quite the spectacle, what with wearing each others robe etc)
Liberator posted on 2018-07-10 13:47:20 Reply Private Reply
#35: Liberator To: hondo68 (#8)
Liberator posted on 2018-07-10 13:48:06 Reply Private Reply
#36: Liberator To: Vicomte13 (#10)
You can NOT be serious.
This Pope is a pro-homo, Commie anti-Christ/fascist.
And besides -- waaay too many RCCs wrecking SCOTUS.
We need PROTS who reflected the FOUNDERS very USCON! And where are THEY??
Liberator posted on 2018-07-10 13:50:22 Reply Private Reply
#37: Liberator To: hondo68 (#12)
Chyeah -- cuz Trump is a "Follower", right?
Move waaaay to the back of the class room.
Liberator posted on 2018-07-10 13:51:34 Reply Private Reply
#38: Liberator To: sneakypete, GrandIsland (#25)
Nicely interpreted, Pete.
I think this guy may be squishy on 2A issues. Not to mention OTHERS.
Don't like this pick.
Liberator posted on 2018-07-10 13:54:10 Reply Private Reply
#39: Hondo68 To: sneakypete, Cult of Personality, Trumpkins, love the Jesuits (#32)
That means that you're mad because someone criticized Dear Leader Donald, and it's fine with you if he somehow packs SCOTUS full of Jesuits.
Got it, Jesuits are good when Trump nominates them, but bad if someone else does. Makes sense if you're a cult of personality person.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-07-10 13:56:50 Reply Private Reply
#40: Liberator To: sneakypete, nolu chan, GrandIsland (#30)
I hope Nolu is right.
I'm not sure if Kavanaugh is fully un-ambiguous on the issue. I'm not a big fan of "Abstaining" on votes.
Liberator posted on 2018-07-10 13:57:19 Reply Private Reply
#41: Liberator To: sneakypete, hondo68 (#32)
Yup.
Hondo has been sporting his pink p***y hats and "I'M WITH ---> HER!" button loud and proud.
Liberator posted on 2018-07-10 13:59:26 Reply Private Reply
#42: nolu chan To: Liberator, no gnu taxes (#33)
Rejecting Kavanaugh risks the next nominee facing a Dem majority in the Senate, or a slimmer GOP majority. If that happens, Trump could nominate conservatives until he leaves office and not get anyone approved.
There are currently 51 GOP, 47 Dem, 2 Ind (caucus with Dem).
At least 3 Dem senators are runnning for reelection in states that Trump won by 20 to 40 points. The liklihood is that Kavanaugh gets narrow Senate approval.
If post-election the GOP retains 50 or more Senate seats (likely), then the next nominee for an opening could well be Barrett, Hardiman, Kethledge, or Thapar.
It is very possible Trump gets to name a successor for Ginsburg or Sotomayor, and possibly Thomas at 70+ could resign to ensure a young, conservative replacement.
nolu chan posted on 2018-07-10 14:06:08 Reply Private Reply
#43: nolu chan To: Liberator, sneakypete, GrandIsland (#40)
I did not offer an opinion. I quoted Kavanaugh verbatim from Heller II at the D.C. Circuit Court. Here is the full Opinion of the Court and dissents. The Kavanaugh dissent starts at page 46 of the pdf.
https://www.scribd.com/document/383600194/Heller-II-v-District-of-Columbia-670-F3d-1244-DC-Cir-10-7036-2011-Kavanaugh-Dissent-at-46
nolu chan posted on 2018-07-10 14:17:19 Reply Private Reply
#44: Vicomte13 To: Liberator (#36)
Of course I am serious.
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-07-10 14:28:52 Reply Private Reply
#45: Vicomte13 To: hondo68 (#39)
I assume by "Jesuits" you mean "Catholics". Catholics are good.
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-07-10 14:36:10 Reply Private Reply
#46: Vicomte13 To: sneakypete (#31)
Catholicism isn't a slave cult. It's the largest human organization, the oldest continuous government on earth, and the source of Western civilization.
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-07-10 14:37:35 Reply Private Reply
#47: Vicomte13 To: hondo68 (#29)
Absolutely. And 9 would be best of all.
#WINNING
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-07-10 14:38:38 Reply Private Reply
#48: Hondo68 To: Vicomte13 (#47)
LOL These Trumpkins are such Vatican puppets!
Francis the hippie Pope is Jesuit too. What a coincidence. The Scofield prots have been beaten down, and they're loving it.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-07-10 14:41:56 Reply Private Reply
#49: Vicomte13 To: hondo68 (#48)
Catholics don't even know what "Scofield Prots" are. We simply have our set of interests and beliefs, and we want to see them enacted as the law of the land. Nothing more, nothing less.
We know, given that we're a minority, that we cannot get our way on everything, so we compromise as necessary in order to get, in the main, what it is that we most care about.
This isn't different from any other political grouping, like yours for instance.
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-07-10 14:51:42 Reply Private Reply
#50: tpaine To: Vicomte13 (#49)
That is not Catholic be!ief.... Anyone that wants their religious beliefs enacted as our as our law of the land, ---- should be shot for treason...
tpaine posted on 2018-07-10 15:01:33 Reply Private Reply
#51: Vicomte13 To: tpaine (#50)
Molon labe.
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-07-10 15:17:49 Reply Private Reply
#52: Vicomte13 To: tpaine (#50)
Per the US Constitution: "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort."
Wanting to see my moral beliefs become the law of the land is not levying war against the United States or adhering to their enemies.
So, your accusation of treason is un-American. You want to shoot me because you don't agree with my politics. That's not American at all. But hey, you do you.
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-07-10 15:21:06 Reply Private Reply
#53: CZ82 To: nolu chan (#42)
I think there are 9 or 10 total in states Trump won.
CZ82 posted on 2018-07-10 15:22:16 Reply Private Reply
#54: Hondo68 To: Vicomte13, Fred Mertz (#49)
Who is "we", you and your reincarnated lizard? You're right about being a minority. You don't speak for the Church. That's a joy and a blessing for Catholics worldwide.
Many Catholics are aware of the Scofield denominations, aka prot nutjobs or rapture monkey zionists. Like your Catholic political group, they're a small subset of a greater traditional Protestant reformation.
Renowned Catholic theologian Fred Mertz might be able to confirm that you're a fringe k0oK Catholic?
Hondo68 posted on 2018-07-10 16:43:48 Reply Private Reply
#55: Vicomte13 To: hondo68 (#54)
Absolutely true. You know who speaks for us worldwide? The Pope. I'm with him. You?
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-07-10 17:16:24 Reply Private Reply
#56: Vicomte13 To: hondo68 (#54)
As a Catholic, I am indeed part of a minority.
But as far as the laws of the country goes, they're not perfect, but much of the structure we have is what I want to see. I'd like it to be more efficient, less ragged around the edges, less slapdash, but the fundamental structures that are in place are very much in keeping with what I want - and utterly the opposite of what you want.
So it would seem that, for whatever reason, the majority will of the country does largely (if imperfectly) provide me what I want, while it deprives you of what you want at every turn.
Eventually, the likes of you either have to compromise with people like me, to get something of what you want at least considered, or you refuse to compromise or talk, and just get plowed under, get nothing you want, but pay your taxes nevertheless.
Not much margin for you in this, but I'm fine with it all.
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-07-10 17:20:06 Reply Private Reply
#57: Hondo68 To: Vicomte13 (#55)
On matters of faith and morals ONLY. There's a red line, no gay wedding cakes!
Hondo68 posted on 2018-07-10 17:20:42 Reply Private Reply
#58: Vicomte13 To: hondo68 (#57)
What makes you think I favor gay wedding cakes? I am completely indifferent to the whole gay business. Don't care.
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-07-10 17:25:03 Reply Private Reply
#59: Liberator To: nolu chan, sneakypete, GrandIsland (#43)
Liberator posted on 2018-07-10 17:32:50 Reply Private Reply
#60: Liberator To: Vicomte13 (#55)
If so, frankly you betray Jesus Christ in a number of ways.
Pope Frankie is so clearly a Trojan Horse Communist, anti-liberty, and importantly, defiant of Christ-ian thought and rationale and intent that supporting this Pope boggles the mind.
Would Jesus Christ kiss the Koran? Support a counterfeit Palestinian instead of Israel? Advocate homosexual behavior -- much less "marriage"? Support the confiscation of one's toiled-over earned wealth?
Liberator posted on 2018-07-10 17:39:00 Reply Private Reply
#61: GrandIsland To: Liberator (#33)
Correct... Trump aint no dummy.
I liked the other choice better (he was a duplicate of Gorsuch)... but Ill take every judge chosen by Trump over any pick Kuntlary and Commie Sanders would have picked.
We dont need any more man hating, gun loathing, tree hugging rug munchers on the bench.
GrandIsland posted on 2018-07-10 17:39:38 Reply Private Reply
#62: nolu chan To: Liberator (#59)
Just for the record, I am not a grand supporter of original intent, but rather original meaning (Scalia was a proponent of this predominant branch of originalism).
https://erlc.com/resource-library/articles/justice-scalias-two-most-essential-speeches
And Scalia commented on substantive due process,
www.cfif.org/htdocs/freedomline/current/guest_commentary/scalia-constitutional-speech.htm
As the Constitution says not a word about abortion, I believe five originalists on SCOTUS might overturn Roe finding a lack of federal jurisdiction, and return the issue to the states. Many here would not be happy with that result. They not only want the court to find that abortion is not constitutionally protected by an emanation from a penumbra, but they want the Court to find that abortion is prohibited by some constitutional provision emanating from a penumbra.
It is of no particular use to go back and find a 200 year old quote as to what some Framer may have intended. Nobody voted to ratify his intent. They voted to ratify the words themselves and the ordinary understanding of the words.
An example might be the 14th Amendment citizenship clause, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside." The words are clear enough to include anchor babies. The baby (regardless of the parents) is born in the U.S. and subject to the jurisdiction (laws) of the U.S. Whether the framer did, or did not, consider the question of anchor babies has no effect on the meaning of the words that were adopted. If it had an unintended consequence, amend it.
nolu chan posted on 2018-07-10 18:41:33 Reply Private Reply
#63: Vicomte13 To: Liberator (#60)
Not in the slightest degree. We disagree at the most fundamental levels. You listed a litany of political issues, and you believe God to align with your political priorities. Nothing is going to persuade you otherwise, not even a lifetime of defeat. You expect that, opening your eyes after death, you will be vindicated. I expect the same thing for myself.
It would appear that there is no meeting of the minds on these things.
The interesting thing is that you see the Pope and the Church and Catholics believing and doing one set of things, but I see him and us believing and doing very different things.
So there's a disagreement both as to law and as to facts.
Doesn't seem to be any way to resolve it, so I guess we will just have to see how the game plays out.
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-07-10 19:13:53 Reply Private Reply
#64: Vicomte13 To: nolu chan (#62)
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-07-10 19:17:07 Reply Private Reply
#65: sneakypete To: hondo68 (#39)
As usual,you "got" nothing but bats flying around in your belfry.
sneakypete posted on 2018-07-10 19:27:51 Reply Private Reply
#66: sneakypete To: Vicomte13 (#46)
HorseHillary!
On all counts.
The only reason you can't see that it's a cult is that you are a cult member.
sneakypete posted on 2018-07-10 19:30:25 Reply Private Reply