SCOTUS rejects warrantless cellphone location tracking in Carpenter v. United States.
In a blockbuster 5-4 decision issued today, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that warrantless government tracking of cellphone users via their cellphone location records violates the Fourth Amendment. "A person does not surrender all Fourth Amendment protection by venturing into the public sphere," declared the majority opinion of Chief Justice John Roberts. "We decline to grant the state unrestricted access to a wireless carrier's database of physical location information."The case is Carpenter v. United States. It arose after the after FBI obtained, without a search warrant, the cellphone records of a suspected armed robber named Timothy Carpenter. With those records, law enforcement officials identified the cell towers that handled his calls and then proceeded to trace back his whereabouts during the time periods in which his alleged crimes were committed. That information was used against Carpenter in court.
The central issue in the case was whether Carpenter had a "reasonable expectation of privacy" in the information contained in those records, or whether he had forfeited such privacy protections by voluntarily sharing the information with his cellular service provider. As the Supreme Court put it in United States v. Miller (1976) and Smith v. Maryland (1979), "a person has no legitimate expectation of privacy in information he voluntarily turns over to third parties."
In his ruling today, Chief Justice Roberts "decline[d] to extend Smith and Miller to cover these novel circumstances. Given the unique nature of cell phone location records, the fact that the information is held by a third party does not by itself overcome the user's claim to Fourth Amendment protection." He continued: "Whether the Government employs its own surveillance technology or leverages the technology of a wireless carrier, we hold that an individual maintains a legitimate expectation of privacy in the record of his physical movements as captured through [cell site location information]."
Roberts' opinion was joined by Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor, and Elena Kagan. Justice Anthony Kennedy filed a dissent, joined by Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito. Alito also filed a dissent, which Thomas joined. Thomas also filed a dissent of his own. Justice Neil Gorsuch dissented alone too.
Kennedy, joined by Thomas and Alito, complained that "the Court's stark departure from relevant Fourth Amendment precedents and principles places undue restrictions on the lawful and necessary enforcement powers exercised not only by the Federal Government, but also by law enforcement in every State and locality throughout the Nation." In their view, the Court should have followed its precedents in Miller and Smith and held that "individuals have no Fourth Amendment interests in business records which are possessed, owned, and controlled by a third party." Cellphone records, they maintain, "are no different from the many other kinds of business records the Government has a lawful right to obtain by compulsory process."
Justice Neil Gorsuch struck an entirely different note in his lone dissent. Indeed, his dissent reads much more like a concurrence. It seems clear that while Gorsuch agreed with the majority that Carpenter deserved to win, he strongly disagreed with them about how the win should have happened.
"I would look to a more traditional Fourth Amendment approach," Gorsuch wrote. "The Fourth Amendment protects 'the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures.' True to those words and their original understanding, the traditional approach asked if a house, paper or effect was yours under law. No more was needed to trigger the Fourth Amendment." Furthermore, Gorsuch wrote, "it seems to me entirely possible a person's cell-site data could qualify as his papers or effects under existing law."
"I cannot fault" the majority "for its implicit but unmistakable conclusion that the rationale of Smith and Miller is wrong; indeed, I agree with that," Gorsuch explained. "At the same time, I do not agree with the Court's decision today to keep Smith and Miller on life support." In other words, Gorsuch would scrap these third-party precedents and have the Court start adhering to an originalist, property rights-based theory of the Fourth Amendment. That's how Gorsuch wanted Carpenter to win.
The importance of today's ruling in Carpenter v. U.S. should not be underestimated. Both the majority opinion and Gorsuch's dissent raise questions about the future viability of two key Fourth Amendment precedents. What is more, the decision itself represents a massive win for Fourth Amendment advocates. Carpenter may well be remembered as the most significant decision issued this term.
#1: buckeroo To: Deckard (#0)
Ruthless thugs usurping the US Constitution again.
buckeroo posted on 2018-06-23 09:45:04 Reply Private Reply
#2: Hondo68 To: buckeroo, Deckard, Gorsuch wrong again (#1)
Gorsuch is on the wrong side, again. First he's for internet taxes, and now the big brother police state surveillance, in spite of his 4th amendment based dissent.
He's right in his reasoning about cell phone data being yours and being covered by the 4th, but he nonetheless voted wrong.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-06-23 10:23:12 Reply Private Reply
#3: buckeroo To: hondo68 (#2)
You and many of us have known for about 30 years that eventually taxes will be collected and paid for commerce based on Internet transactions.
Its official now.
buckeroo posted on 2018-06-23 10:47:03 Reply Private Reply
#4: Pinguinite To: hondo68 (#2)
I agree completely, and am puzzled as to why he was not counted with the majority. Is it because he simply didn't agree with the opinion written by them? Seems this was really a 6-3 decision.
Gorsuch's reasoning is the one that is most right.
It reminds me of the old days when law enforcement needed a warrant to wiretap analog land line telephones. The Fourth Amendment applied there even though the equipment was not owned by the person being wire tapped. Gorsuch is essentially doing nothing more than extending that same principle to cell phones.
Courts need to recognize when modern, common standards of life change with technology.
Pinguinite posted on 2018-06-23 11:26:03 Reply Private Reply
#5: Pinguinite To: buckeroo (#3)
And Amazon is the chief beneficiary. On top of their special shipping deals with the USPS (unless Trump has killed that), they have a serious advantage over smaller competition.
Pinguinite posted on 2018-06-23 11:28:11 Reply Private Reply
#6: buckeroo To: Pinguinite (#5)
You gotta be kidding yourself. If taxes are levied, Amazon must comply as any worthy commerce effort. There is no benefit for any Internet company. Taxes are mere added costs to the balance sheet that drives the price UP!
buckeroo posted on 2018-06-23 12:06:24 Reply Private Reply
#7: Pinguinite To: buckeroo (#6)
State sales taxes are already collected by Amazon for most every state, as they already have a physical presence in most states, being the big corporation they are, so this ruling doesn't affect them much. Who's affected are the smaller shippers that only have a presence in a single state. Their customer costs will go up as they'll need to pay their state taxes where they did not before.
At least that's my understanding.
Pinguinite posted on 2018-06-23 12:12:07 Reply Private Reply
#8: buckeroo To: Pinguinite (#7)
To me, they make no more money as you suggested earlier.
buckeroo posted on 2018-06-23 12:16:57 Reply Private Reply
#9: Pinguinite To: buckeroo (#8)
But their competition now loses their advantage, which helps Amazon. And if they do have a unfair favorable shipping deal with USPS, then....
Pinguinite posted on 2018-06-23 12:21:24 Reply Private Reply
#10: buckeroo To: Pinguinite (#9)
The eventual FACTOID: PAY!
buckeroo posted on 2018-06-23 12:32:27 Reply Private Reply
#11: Hondo68 To: Pinguinite (#4)
Basically individual dissenting opinions (exclusions) within the text of the majority opinion, while yet agreeing with the verdict.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-06-23 13:00:10 Reply Private Reply
#12: Vicomte13 To: Nolu chan (#0)
A justice is with or against the majority solely based on one single word: Upheld, or Not.
The long and winding opinions that explain the justices' reasoning are dicta (individually dictum) - they are not the holding, they are literal opinions. Dictum is not law. Only the holding is law.
Of course, Supreme Court justices never retire, and only die rarely, so when a Justice writes his or her opinion and states the logic by which s/he decided the case, that logic isn't law, but it sure is a good guide to what s/he will probably say the next time a case like that is presented. That Justice is now much more predictable on an issue.
Gorsuch voted with the minority to either uphold or overturn the original decision - they did not give enough data to tell us what the actual HOLDING was (upheld, reversed?) - so he is properly counted with the other justices who so held, even though his obiter dictum was different in its logic than theirs.
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-06-23 13:10:28 Reply Private Reply
#13: buckeroo To: Vicomte13 (#12)
So dumbshit. the USSC should not have accepted the case, must less the adjudication.
But, despite your esteemed concepts .. they diametrically chose to decide contrary to your opinion.
buckeroo posted on 2018-06-23 13:19:33 Reply Private Reply
#14: Hondo68 To: Vicomte13, Pinguinite, buckeroo, Nolu chan (#12)
I can't get the SCRIBD to embed, but Gorsuch's dissent is based on the fact that Carpenter's lawyers didn't make the right argument in court, as far as I understand it. Couldn't the dumbass Gorsuck have taken "judicial notice" and voted with the majority, instead of blaming his stupid decision on the lawyers?
Don't see any tally of upheld vs reversed.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-06-23 13:59:01 Reply Private Reply
#15: Vicomte13 To: buckeroo (#13)
I agree with the decision.
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-06-23 16:36:34 Reply Private Reply
#16: misterwhite To: buckeroo (#3)
Using what as justiication for the tax? Because they can?
misterwhite posted on 2018-06-24 10:16:02 Reply Private Reply
#17: misterwhite To: Deckard (#0)
First of all, I don't recall voluntarily sharing anything with my cellular service provider. I agreed to pay them a certain amount every month in return for cellular service. If they are collecting and storing my location data, it is without my knowledge or permission.
Second, if my cellular service provider needs to collect and store my location data for internal business reasons, then I expect that data to remain internal and confidential, not shared with anyone who asks.
Third, I have a right to know who asks for that data. That's an invasion of my privacy.
Lastly, to avoid confusion and misunderstanding, contracts should clearly state that I must authorize, in writing, any disclosure of any information to anyone.
misterwhite posted on 2018-06-24 10:37:14 Reply Private Reply
#18: nolu chan To: hondo68, Pinguinite (#11)
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Gorsuch dissented from the majority and cannot be included with them. The decision was 5-4.
Roberts, Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayor and Kagan were the majority.
Kennedy, Thomas, Alito and Gorsuch dissented.
Carpenter v. United States, S. Ct. 16-402, 585 U.S. ___ (22 Jun 2018)
Syllabus at 4:
Opinion of the Court at 22:
Gorsuch disagreed with the legal reasoning of the majority and felt he could not join the majority and support that legal reasoning.
Gorsuch explored a different line of legal reasoning upon which he could have reached the same result as the majority (reversing the Circuit Court), but he could not concur with the majority based on that legal reasoning because it was not available to him. Carpenter did not preserve such an argument in the course of the litigation and forfeited it. As Carpenter did not argue that line of reasoning, the Government did not defend against it, indeed had no cause or opportunity to defend against it. Gorsuch cannot uphold an argument that was not thoroughly argued in the courts below. He can only point out that it was an avenue that could have been pursued. Gorsuch is practically begging lawyers in future cases to not ignore and forfeit the traditional argument.
GORSUCH, dissenting at 5-6:
GORSUCH, dissenting at 7:
GORSUCH, dissenting at 8:
GORSUCH, dissenting at 12:
GORSUCH, dissentng at 16:
Basically, a bailment occurs when a bailor entrusts personal property to a bailee, who assumes custody of the property and a duty to exercise due care. Example: hat check or coat check. They just hold your hat/coat for you until you leave.
GORSUCH, dissenting at 20:
GORSUCH, dissenting at 20-21:
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Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 U.S. 479 (1965)
Griswold introduced the hitherto unknown Due Process Clause constitutional privacy rights which emanated from the penumbras of the Bill of Rights. Nobody is quite certain of where the penumbras are located, but the privacy emanations are broad enough to cover the sale of condoms, and elastic enough to stretch out and cover search and seizure and abortion.
Griswold, Opinion of the Court at 481:
Griswold, Opinion of the Court at 481-82:
Griswold, Opinion of the Court at 484:
Griswold, Opinion of the Court at 485:
Griswold, Opinion of the Court at 486:
Griswold, BLACK Dissenting opinion (joined by Stewart) at 507:
Griswold, BLACK Dissenting opinion (joined by Stewart) at 508-10:
Griswold, BLACK Dissenting opinion (joined by Stewart) at 511-12:
Griswold, BLACK Dissenting opinion (joined by Stewart) at 511-12:
Griswold, STEWART Dissenting opinion (joined by Black) at 527-529:
Griswold, STEWART Dissenting opinion (joined by Black) at 530:
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Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973)
I note that the basic privacy right argument in Griswold and Katz was repackaged and repurposed for abortion and used in Roe v. Wade. It is another emanation from the same penumbra. Substantive due process has been said to be the empty vessel into which the courts can pour anything.
Roe, Opinion of the Court at 153:
Roe, REHNQUIST dissenting at 172:
Roe, REHNQUIST dissenting at 174-77:
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As Justice Gorsuch noted in his dissent, "it was Katz that produced Smith and Miller in the first place." As I noted above, the legal mumbo-jumbo in Griswold and Katz contributed mightily to Roe. I find the call for Gorsuch to join the majority of Roberts, Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayor and Kagan in support of Katz, and keeping Smith and Miller, somewhat curious. One explanation is a possible unfamilarity with what Katz and its progeny stand for "What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection." Katz at 351. "[I]n Katz the Court also stressed that '[w]hat a person knowingly exposes to the public... is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection.'" Miller at 442. "When he used his phone, petitioner voluntarily conveyed numerical information to the telephone company and 'exposed' that information to its equipment in the ordinary course of business. In so doing, petitioner assumed the risk that the company would reveal to police the numbers he dialed." Smith at 744.
Below are selections from the Opinions of the Court and the Dissents in Katz, Miller and Smith.
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Katz, 389 U.S. 347 (1967)
Katz Opinion of the Court at 351:
Katz, Opinion of the Court at 353:
Katz, BLACK dissenting at 364-66:
Katz, BLACK dissenting at 372-74:
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United States v. Miller, 425 U.S. 435 (1976)
Miller, Opinion of the Court at 442-43:
Miller, Opinion of the Court at 444:
Miller, MARSHALL dissenting at 456:
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Smith v. Maryland, 442 U.S. 735 (1979)
Smith, Opinion of the Court at 740:
Smith, Opinion of the Court at 742:
Smith, Opinion of the Court at 743-44:
Smith, Marshall (joined by Brennan) dissenting at 749:
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nolu chan posted on 2018-06-26 17:20:36 Reply Private Reply