The president reverts to his original, highly implausible excuse for dismissing the FBI director.
Donald Trump says his decision to fire FBI Director James Comey is vindicated by the report that Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz released yesterday. "The IG Report is a total disaster for Comey, his minions and sadly, the FBI," the president tweeted this morning. "Comey will now officially go down as the worst leader, by far, in the history of the FBI. I did a great service to the people in firing him."Since Horowitz's report criticizes Comey, Trump's claim is superficially plausible. But Horowitz's conclusions about the FBI's investigation of Hillary Clinton's email practices as secretary of state are exactly the opposite of Trump's complaints about the investigation. While Horowitz says Comey treated Clinton unfairly, Trump has long argued that Comey let Clinton off easy. Which is it? Anyone who cared about logic or principle would have to choose, but Trump is either oblivious to the contradiction or assumes it will not faze his fans.
This is not the first time the president has asked us to believe he fired Comey because of actions that hurt Clinton, the woman whose imprisonment was a regular theme of Trump's campaign rallies. The initial explanation for Comey's dismissal, laid out in a May 9, 2017, memo by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and endorsed by Attorney General Jeff Sessions, focused on the same two incidents that Horowitz found most troubling: Comey's July 5, 2016, press conference, during which he said Clinton should not be prosecuted but criticized her "extremely careless" handling of classified material, and his October 28, 2016, letter informing members of Congress that he had reopened the investigation in light of newly discovered evidence that ultimately added nothing to the case.
Horowitz says Comey's press conference was not only "extraordinary and insubordinate" but violated Justice Department norms aimed at protecting subjects of investigations that do not result in criminal charges. "We concluded that Comey's unilateral announcement was inconsistent with Department policy and violated long-standing Department practice and protocol by, among other things, criticizing Clinton's uncharged conduct," the report says. According to Horowitz, the public reopening of the investigation 11 days before the presidential election was also a glaring departure from department policy and "a serious error of judgment."
Rosenstein said much the same thing in his 2017 memo. Sessions, who had never before criticized Comey for these decisions and had in fact defended both of them, nevertheless concurred with Rosenstein's conclusions. So did Trump, who appended Rosenstein's memo and Sessions letter endorsing it to the letter informing Comey that his services were no longer needed. "I have received the attached letters from the Attorney General and the Deputy Attorney General of the United States recommending your dismissal," Trump wrote. "I have accepted their recommendation."
Trump dropped that pretense two days later. "I was going to fire Comey," Trump told NBC's Lester Holt. "Regardless of [the] recommendation, I was going to fire Comey." He also conceded that the Russia investigation was on his mind at the time, which helped explain his otherwise puzzling statement in the dismissal letter that "I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation." According to Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani, Comey's refusal to say that publicly was one of the main reasons the president fired him.
Now Rosenstein, who helped Trump obscure his motive for firing Comey, is overseeing an obstruction of justice investigation in which that motive looms large, and Trump is once again pretending that he, like Rosenstein and Horowitz, was offended by Comey's shoddy treatment of Clinton. That position seems somewhat at odds with Trump's insistence that Comey should have recommended charges against "Crooked Hillary," who was obviously guilty and got off only because of the FBI's anti-Trump bias. "James Comey lied and leaked and totally protected Hillary Clinton," Trump tweeted last October. "He was the best thing that ever happened to her!"
Horowitz, by contrast, found that the decision not to charge Clinton, who arguably violated a law criminalizing "gross negligence" in the handling of information "relating to the national defense," was "based on the prosecutors' assessment of the facts, the law, and past Department practice." The prosecutors concluded that the offense "likely required a state of mind that was 'so gross as to almost suggest deliberate intention,' criminally reckless, or 'something that falls just short of being willful,' as well as evidence that the individuals who sent emails containing classified information 'knowingly' included or transferred such information onto unclassified systems." While the decision not to bring that charge was controversial, Horowitz says, "we found no evidence that the conclusions by the prosecutors were affected by bias or other improper considerations."
Trump's reaction to Horowitz's report suggests that he thinks Comey was terribly unfair to Clinton, departing from Justice Department policy in ways that hurt her election prospects. Yet Trump also thinks Comey "totally protected Hillary," who belonged in prison rather than the White House. Can those positions be reconciled? Trump does not care, and neither do his supporters.
#1: Justified To: Deckard (#0)
Reason has lost its luster and has dropped into the mud of NeverTrumpers.
This crap is what gets libertarian's in trouble with people who can think past the R & D or Far Right or Far Left.
Trump is fighting everyone which is why he has strange connections to groups and people. He has turned out to be the most effective president ever. Probably will go down as one if not the best president ever. This coming from a man who thinks Ike and Reagan were the best presidents.
Words of wisdom. Pull your head out of your ass and see what is really going on. No president in my lifetime will ever be a libertarian president. Too many socialist in this country to make it happen.
More TDS.
Justified posted on 2018-06-17 13:14:52 Reply Private Reply
#2: Deckard To: Justified (#1)
Deckard posted on 2018-06-17 13:29:29 Reply Private Reply
#3: Justified To: Deckard (#2)
Trump is right to fire him and needs to fire a few more but the deep state will not allow it to happen.
This is crap why people ignore the far right. You guys get nutty over the dumbest things. Trump is caught in a catch 22. How he ever gets thing done is beyond me!
Justified posted on 2018-06-17 13:49:17 Reply Private Reply
#4: nolu chan To: Deckard (#0)
Fake news.
nolu chan posted on 2018-06-18 11:22:46 Reply Private Reply
#5: Deckard To: Justified (#3)
I agree - the article is simply pointing out the inconsistent reasons for firing him.
While Horowitz says Comey treated Clinton unfairly, Trump has long argued that Comey let Clinton off easy. Which is it?
Deckard posted on 2018-06-18 12:30:20 Reply Private Reply
#6: rlk To: Deckard (#0)
And in recent years Hillary hasn't been concered about not hurting anybody but Hillary.
rlk posted on 2018-06-18 22:39:58 Reply Private Reply
#7: Fred Mertz To: rlk (#6)
Fred Mertz posted on 2018-06-18 23:01:40 Reply Private Reply
#8: nolu chan To: Deckard, Justified, Tooconservative (#0)
What a crock. Comey's announcement was either insubordination or it was done with the knowledge and consent of Comey's superiors. All of his superiors, along with the rest of the world, knew Comey was going to make a statement. In this ultra-sensitive matter, we are to believe no superior asked or showed any concern about what Comey was going to say. Only a finding of Comey insubordination would make his superiors faultless.
As for Comey's delay, Comey and the FBI had their tit caught in a wringer. The FBI successfully delayed for nearly a month before getting off their ass to take possession of the hundreds of thousands of messages that belonged to their investigation. They had not attempted to get a search warrant. The SDNY investigation was into Weiner and the underage girls preferred by Carlos Danger. Had the D.C. FBI been able to delay another month, they could say thay had not seen the emails until after the election. They could call it a bureaucratic snafu between NY and D.C. But the New York FBI office got frustrated and sent a message demanding to know what the problem was what was the the cause of the inaction. This caused a paper trail to the FBI felons and made their continued ignoring of the Weiner laptop and the hundreds of thousands of emails untenable. Comey made a now hurried, but month late notification to Congress, and to the American people, to cover his own sorry ass for the FBI criminal and politically motivated delay.
Because the SDNY put the FBI on the spot, Comey could not deny he and the DC FBI had obtained the about 340,000 messages. He couldn't keep a secret and had to make an anouncement before election day. His gamble at delaying did not pay off. Now he had to make an announcement that hurt Hillary to cover his own misdeed. In choosing between Comey and Hillary, Comey chose Comey. There remains no good explanation for the month long delay.
DOJ IG Report - pages viii - x.
WEINER LAPTOP INFO - FBI DELAY
nolu chan posted on 2018-06-19 14:24:29 Reply Private Reply
#9: Tooconservative To: nolu chan (#8)
I get your argument here but I think we have to realize that Comey is one strange duck. He might have been a Lone Ranger on this, lost in the loftiness of his own power and prestige.
I wouldn't bet that Comey was keeping his superiors informed.
Tooconservative posted on 2018-06-19 18:10:22 Reply Private Reply
#10: nolu chan To: Tooconservative (#9)
I would bet the farm that he did not go on national tv without his superiors vetting what he was going to say. They were not tuning in to the tv to find out live.
nolu chan posted on 2018-06-20 11:03:04 Reply Private Reply
#11: Tooconservative To: nolu chan (#10)
Tooconservative posted on 2018-06-20 11:59:44 Reply Private Reply
#12: BorisY To: Justified (#1)
More like rocks - marbles
Falling ouT of Their heads
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Major melTdown
BorisY posted on 2018-06-20 12:09:08 Reply Private Reply
#13: Liberator To: Justified (#1)
Excellent points.
Liberator posted on 2018-06-20 12:14:52 Reply Private Reply
#14: Liberator To: Deckard (#2)
Answer: 1+1=2
Trump is either oblivious to the contradiction or assumes it will not faze his fans.
Did it EVER occur to you that Trump oft-times must play his own psyop games in order to paint the MSM and its zombies into a corner?
You've apparently turned off the switch.
Liberator posted on 2018-06-20 12:20:31 Reply Private Reply
#15: Liberator To: nolu chan (#8)
Well done breakdown of Comey's conundrum (as well as the FBI and The Lying IG Shill, Horowitz.)
Interest how Weiner and his laptop (containing Huma's Hitlery emails) has inadvertently sabotaged Hitlery, Comey, and the entire "I'm-With-Her" Feeb collaborators.
Just...WOW:
Liberator posted on 2018-06-20 12:27:53 Reply Private Reply
#16: Liberator To: Tooconservative, nolu chan (#9)
"Lone Ranger"? No way. "Strange Duck", without a doubt. McCabe, Strok, Page, and many others were a part of this cover-up FOR Hitlery and framing OF Donald Trump.
Personally, I believe Comey had to have been consulted by "Strong Man" ValJarret. Hard to believe Comey would have made that decision and scripted his public explanation independently.
Zero had no great love for Hitlery, assumed she'd win the election in any case but hoped to have her beaten-up just the same *just in case*. OR, even for kicks.
0bama knew (and knows) he or Moose can run in 2020; that he and ValJar have set up shop in DC was a tip-off.
Liberator posted on 2018-06-20 12:38:34 Reply Private Reply
#17: Tooconservative To: Liberator (#16)
Moose can but 0bama can't.
Tooconservative posted on 2018-06-20 17:54:18 Reply Private Reply
#18: Jameson To: Deckard (#0)
If the orange russian says it......there is a really fucking strong chance that IT IS A LIE.
FACT
Jameson posted on 2018-06-20 18:02:40 Reply Private Reply
#19: Hondo68 To: Tooconservative, one termer grudge match (#17)
Poppy & Jimiah death match 2020.
Moose & Squirrel debate 2020
Hondo68 posted on 2018-06-20 19:34:06 Reply Private Reply
#20: Justified To: Jameson (#18)
Hillary or Obama change their hair color to Orange?
Yes pretty much everything out of Clinton and Obama's piehole is a lie.
Justified posted on 2018-06-20 21:10:01 Reply Private Reply
#21: Deckard To: Justified, Jameson (#20)
Pretty much everything out of any politician's mouth is a lie.
Including Trump's.
Deckard posted on 2018-06-21 06:44:23 Reply Private Reply
#22: GrandIsland To: Deckard (#21)
Ron (I Diddin Do Nuffin While I was a politician) Paultard was a politician... and he was a liar that only had one bill passed and implemented?
GrandIsland posted on 2018-06-21 07:02:16 Reply Private Reply
#23: A K A Stone To: Deckard (#2)
A K A Stone posted on 2018-06-21 07:30:32 Reply Private Reply
#24: A K A Stone To: Jameson (#18)
A K A Stone posted on 2018-06-21 07:32:48 Reply Private Reply
#25: A K A Stone To: Deckard (#21)
A K A Stone posted on 2018-06-21 07:34:53 Reply Private Reply
#26: Jameson To: A K A Stone (#24)
You seem exceptionally angry and bitter this morning....
Which makes me laugh!
Sure signs of a massive hangover caused by cheap malt liquor, or maybe fortified wine, like Wild-I.......
I have a question for you!
How do you feel, knowing that the orange russian stiffed a golfer in a charity tournament of his prize for scoring and ace?
While I appreciate the fact that this is incredibly minor compared to all the other greasy fuckery he'a been into.....
I've just been wondering how it makes you feel.
Jameson posted on 2018-06-21 08:14:36 Reply Private Reply
#27: A K A Stone To: Jameson (#26)
Trump will be re elected. I'm thinking it might trigger your suicide. Then we will no longer have you demonstrate the sterotypical liberal which you do so well.
A K A Stone posted on 2018-06-21 08:23:12 Reply Private Reply
#28: Jameson To: A K A Stone (#27)
LOL!!
Thanks for the laugh!
Jameson posted on 2018-06-21 08:33:38 Reply Private Reply
#29: A K A Stone To: Jameson (#28)
Here is your first lesson Democrat. Boys have penises and girls don't.
A K A Stone posted on 2018-06-21 09:08:10 Reply Private Reply
#30: nolu chan To: Liberator (#15)
http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/20/steele-dossier-state-department/
nolu chan posted on 2018-06-21 09:19:31 Reply Private Reply
#31: Jameson To: A K A Stone (#29)
That's where you're wrong! You don't realize how funny you are!
Jameson posted on 2018-06-21 09:33:26 Reply Private Reply
#32: Deckard To: A K A Stone (#23)
Way to keep it classy simpleton.
Deckard posted on 2018-06-21 11:08:02 Reply Private Reply
#33: Liberator To: nolu chan (#30)
Aaah -- how about THAT!
And once again we have crucial missing details that have been buried and NOT revealed with regard to this Mueller "RUSSIA!" Hoax/Witch Hunt. UNTIL NOW.
As the murky toxic air down in Foggy Bottom becomes more purified, we'd presume the Masks of the Guilty must eventually be revealed.
As I've suggested in my recent post, the MSM was compelled to create the Border Children/"Trump=Nazi!" Diversion to avoid reporting this Mother-Of-All-Scandal-In-American-History
Liberator posted on 2018-06-21 15:04:54 Reply Private Reply
#34: Liberator To: Tooconservative (#17)
I mistakenly thought he could also run again (a la Grover Cleveland) -- just as long as the term wasn't tacked on to the original two-terms. I guess I should have referred to the FDR amendment.
Liberator posted on 2018-06-21 15:10:55 Reply Private Reply
#35: nolu chan To: Liberator (#33)
It reminds me of Watergate. It goes drip, drip, drip until the dam breaks and a flood begins. We seem to be at the point of dam failure where the whole pile of crap unravels and a river of crap just flows.
That's correct. They actually floated a series of diversions until they found one that gained some traction and made a lot of noise. The fake outrage is something to behold.
nolu chan posted on 2018-06-21 15:31:09 Reply Private Reply
#36: Liberator To: nolu chan (#35)
Yup...
Hopefully Pubbies will stay focused and NOT compromise on energy and will as they did during Bubba's Impeachment Hearing when the Senate just called off the entire thing and surrendered prematurely.
In this case we shouldn't expect ANY party opposition to "do the right thing" as in the Nixon case. They have tossed any pretext of fairness, ethics and justice down the stairs.
They actually floated a series of diversions until they found one that gained some traction and made a lot of noise. The fake outrage is something to behold.
Yeah, they finally made something stick to Trump. But its still Fake Noise for a Fake Issue -- not that they care.
The advantage the Left-MSM will always have is their monopoly on number of bullhorns, and decibel level and frequency when promoting their lies. They even went as far as ABC reporting Manafort as responsible for 5 deaths (before admitting a "mistake").
Not even a concession by Trump on the children border-pawns tamped down the fake outrage. At this point they won't let up on the gas pedal -- even if a large portion of the public knows it's all one more BS operation. The "NAZI!-CAGES!!" diversion a gamble they must take, given their entire political/deep state infrastructure is currently being exposed as a dumpster fire.
Liberator posted on 2018-06-21 16:35:27 Reply Private Reply
#37: nolu chan To: Liberator (#36)
Yeah, they had him pleading guilty to five counts of manslaughter. Oops, our bad!
nolu chan posted on 2018-06-21 16:47:41 Reply Private Reply