There's plenty of D&R party gov employees that need to go to jail, but Manafort ain't one of them, IMO.

That should tell you SOMETHING. (Actually, quite a bit).

The reality is that she should be brought to trial for long term criminal acts against this country and against humanity.

Trump, in his stupidity, is participating in the cover-up.

Robert, I've read enough of your posts from the past to know that you would have easily and normally have sussed out this actual situation in ten seconds. Same of you, Deckard.

Trump is considered an Invader, a Spoiler, NOT in the "Club" of international gangster elite; The "cover-up" is facilitated by ENEMIES of Trump. (Didn't you read any of that IG Report? OR been watching the Comey/Mueller shenanigans for the last 2 years?? HELLO. A Coup has been ongoing. Do you really need the New York Times headline to tell you? )

Simply, Trump has himself has obviously been victimized by this machination. A civil war is raging within the FBI, CIA and DoJ.

ONLY UNTIL Trump is able to establish a network of trust and power within the respective Intel and DoJ communitahs -- HIS team -- they remain by and large still tools and assets of the 0bama/Hillary "Resistance".

You guys both would have done this math only a few short years ago. (I THINK)

He probably got orders from TPTB not to mess with Hildabeast.

So much for that "fighting the Deep State" bullshit.

Stunning delusion and denial of reality.

I'm beginning to believe Jameson has been tutoring you.

Yours for backing losers, so that Obama could get elected twice.

Who'd YOU vote for or support in 2008 and 2012, Hondo?

We are sick of the two party system.

We are sick of the two party system.

Then what is your stance on non party people running as a D or R even thou they really do not subscribe to either one? Such as Ron Paul or Donald Trump?

Because if you only vote for third party your vote will never ever count and your political enemy will win and take ground while you scurry back into nothingness.

I supported Ron Paul throughout his career, as an example.

I can't speak for hondo, but he voted as an independent. I did as well.

Ok...*I* am "Independent" too.

So who did you and he vote for? (If not supported?)

We are sick of the two party system.

Most are.

THAT is why a vote for Trump was ostensibly a vote for NEITHER. (And the reason why Trump is opposed and despised by both the Dems as well as Ryan, McConnell, McStain, RINOs Inc.)

If you only vote for third party your vote will never ever count and your political enemy will win and take ground while you scurry back into nothingness.

Exactly.

I did for the first time ever vote third party when McStain was nominated to the GOP. He is clearly mentally unstable and a Regressive in conservative clothing.

You did so out of principle, I get it, but principle and a Third Party can't win a Presidential election. Yet, anyway.

Yes, McStain and Romney and the Bushes are/were ALL "Regressives" after everything was said and done.

Though Trump smashed that entire 50 year+ mold and power structure, *some* people expect him to disinfect the Establishment Machine with a snap of the finger.

Change WITHIN our US Constitution.

Im lost here? Not sure what you are getting at.

I like RP. He is a bit too libertarian for me in that radical change will cause a collapse of society. This is no good for anyone and will allow someone like Obama or Clinton to get elected. Then it will take decades to undo the damage of their reign of terror.

My thought has allows been destroy the socialist/Regresives then you can build another party to the right of the GOP. If you destroy the GOP then you will get Demoncrat control, see the lawlessness they bring after you get someone like Trump in that will not back down. The demoncrat lawlessness in my opinion is totally unacceptable. I want to save America and not try to kill it and bring something out of the ashes.

I voted for Romney and Bush. I new Romney was a Regresive but by then Obama was doing some real damage to America because GOp was not fighting him.

Thank God for Trump! He is doing what the right has always wanted which is odd that some on the right still hate him.

Im lost here? Not sure what you are getting at.

Why is the USA involved involved in foreign intrigue all over the globe?

I personally think we could leave half the place on earth militarily and no change would occur. I see no need to have troops in Africa or the Middle East. Once we are oil sustainable we should be leaving the ME and thanks to bush it has happen(go figure that one). We need to clean out the state department which gets us in these positions.

So what happens when nobody flips do they resort to more threats and or charges??

Gates already flipped, he's given up Manafort....

Threats? Additional Charges?

Manafort committed crimes. His crimes are indisputable and he will be convicted.

Isn't this the same Judge

Don't know...don't really care

what is your stance on non party people running as a D or R even thou they really do not subscribe to either one? Such as Ron Paul or Donald Trump?

With RINO's and DINO's there's at least a chance, that they might be pro-American. At least they're not certified 100% POS's like REAL Republicans & Democrats.

Any vote for the real D&R shitstains, is a wasted vote. You're voting for the highway to hell, when you vote genuine D&R party.

Donald & Hillary's favorite song....

ONLY UNTIL Trump is able to establish a network of trust and power...

Trump can't do that by recruiting people like Tinnerson as SOS. Trump as surrounded himself with people who are more like Hillary is than Hillary is. He's still a God damned teenager running a so-called reality TV show to get attention than he is in forming a stable government.

If you think Trump and Clinton are the same you are crazy. All you have to do is see that Trump has just about decimated everything Obama ran up our back side while Clinton would have doubled down on Obama's reign of terror.

If you throw away your vote you get what you deserve. That's voting for R, D or third party. Vote for the best candidate or the worst will win and we get one step closer to communism light ie socialism.

Isn't this the same Judge

Don't know...don't really care

I'm not really surprised at your attitude. Why be concerned when it's easier to be able to claim plausible ignorance, just like Obama's act of claiming he knew nothing until he seen it in the news lol...

So what happens when nobody flips do they resort to more threats and or charges??

Gates already flipped, he's given up Manafort....

Threats? Additional Charges?

Manafort committed crimes. His crimes are indisputable and he will be convicted.

But what he did was known years ago and nothing was done, (in fact other lobbyists that have done the same things as him have had nothing done to them, isn't really that important) this is all about getting him to flip on Trump. (What a bunch of dumbasses the Dems and never Trumpers are).

Even most of the career politician (R)’s and RINO’s don’t get along with him.

He’s what’s been begged for over the last 15 years, on Liberty Post. An outsider from Washington THAT WILL SEAL THE BORDER... and everyone fights against him, including you... and then you bitch. Go chew on a buckshot sandwich, you asshole

what he did was known years ago and nothing was done

A Travesty of justice!! I agree with you CZ82, this anti-american ass-clown should have been locked up years ago!

"...in fact other lobbyists that have done the same things as him have had nothing done to them..."

It's time to make a stand!! Maybe SH donnie's DOJ is now ready to put an end to anti-American lobbying!!

"...this is all about getting him to flip on Trump..."

If what you're claiming is true....then REAL CRIMES have been committed!! - Manafort (and Cohen, and Gates, and the rest of the cast of "Lets Make A Deal) can testify against GSB, and other members of his "administration" and / or campaign team, and / or family and associates for committing crimes against the USA! and our uniquely American way of life!

Might it be correct - and indeed righteous! for an honest and patriotic individual to encourage and applaud justice being served and wrong-doers being punished for their crimes?

Welcome to the "Resistance" Brother!! (or sister, or person, or entity)

I'm not really surprised at your attitude.

I really don't care whether you're surprised, or not.

Judges play many roles. They interpret the law, assess the evidence presented, and control how hearings and trials unfold in their courtrooms. Most important of all, judges are impartial decision-makers in the pursuit of justice.

Manafort Sent to Jail

For those of you keeping score at home:

Inmate no. 45343

Inmate no. 45343

I won a trifecta last week when they came in 3, 4, 5 at the racetrack. That was on Friday.

No BS. And I don't hit many tris.

Most important of all, judges are impartial decision-makers in the pursuit of justice.

On what planet? Oh right...

You should send PM a thank-you note!

It put me ahead for the day.

For those of you keep score at home:

Inmate no. 45343

Yes, the count of Kangaroo Court cases and Gestapo tactics by 0bama-Clinton "judges" ARE being tallied for posterity.

Some of us ARE "keeping score" alright:

Number of WH Rapists/Presidents(D) indicted, impeached and disgraced: BUBBA (" I did not have relations with hat woman, Miss Lewinsky") KLINTON

Number of Commies/Muzzies/Traitors/Racists/Saboteurs Presidents(D) busted cold for: illegally spying on an incoming President, weaponizing the FBI/IRS/DoJ against Conservatives, attempting to pull off a coup against the President: Barry (eff-America-and-its- "bitter Bible & gun-clingers") 0bammy.

Number of insane Bloody Witches/Murderesses supported by Democrats to be President/Dictator-ess, but were denied: Butcher of Benghazi, Hitlery Klintoon.

In the 3 above cases, the Guilty Verdict and Final Justice in the Pits of Fire shall be meted out on Judgment Day. ("Inmate Number" unnecessary)

My lightest Tri was about $68 rubles.

As a young guy (who really needed a break), I once hit for over $400 after an Inquiry at Monmouth Park. It was the final race of the day and had to borrow a few bucks just to bet it.

Ready to leave when suddenly the 1st and 2nd place positions (2-4-7) were flashing on the board. 2 and 4 were reversed and I had my 4-2-7 Tri. Back in the late 70s that number was kinda big.

he Guilty Verdict and Final Justice in the Pits of Fire shall be meted out on Judgment Day

LOL!

Trump can't do that by recruiting people like Tinnerson as SOS. Trump as surrounded himself with people who are more like Hillary is than Hillary is.

It appears you're still not quite understanding why the Trump admin has been compelled to accept GOPe termites (Like Tillerson) within.

UNTIL enough Pubbies/Conservatives feel they are safe from the still threatening Deep State assets from within, Trump is having to accept dodgy personnel...or else those positions won't get filled.

This necessarily means that ONLY UNTIL Trump wins a war of political attrition from within and gets a handle on 0bama's "booby-trapped" depts or "NEVER-TRUMP" establishment GOP saboteurs, he'll have to continue to make do.

THE PROBLEM: There are still precious few competent people who are willing to serve President Trump endure the constant attacks from the MSM, the corrupt Feeb, and its spies.

You look adorable here. (Which one are you again?)

Anyway, good luck with your Final Meeting and Final Sentencing with The Big Guy. I'm sure it'll turn out fine.

Keywords: follow, the, money

Your keywords for this thread of yours. Oh, The Irony.

Two Words: CLINTON FOUNDATION

(ring any bell$?)

Two Words: CLINTON FOUNDATION

What's your point?

Please knock yourself out.

Spend all your resources to compel someone, anyone, to prosecute the clintons. Make it your life's goal. Sell all your possessions and mount a crusade!

I no longer care.

Here's the reality - They probably got away with it.

Not even SH Donnie cares.

I no longer care.

If you're going to do it in the garage. Make sure the wife and kids are gone. Sometimes the fumes from the car engine get into the house and you harm not only yourself but a family member.

Jumping off a bridge would be better. Or rope.

What's your point?

I'm sorry -- did I "woke" you?

Here's the reality - They probably got away with it.

For now.

Btw, it seems you DO know my "point" after all.

If mega-corruption, grand theft, and murder from politicians that YOU support in governing us "don't matter", what then should?

Then again for SOME reason, Manafort's imagined "crimes" apparently "matter" to you.

politicians that YOU support

Not the politicians I support, I have an entirely different agenda.

"don't matter"

As I said, knock yourself out. Keep tilting at your windmill.

***On a more positive note:

Sell-out donnie is having a meltdown today......I wonder why???

Over / Under on # of hours until the announcement that Manafort or Cohen has agreed to cooperate with the Mueller investigation........98 Hours

***BONUS WAGER**** Odds that both flip by week's end: 5:4

convictions on state charges lands him in prison for the remainder of his life.

His ONLY option is to make a deal with Mueller.

Nah. He can tell Mueller to go hump himself and wait for Mueller to get run out of town. Mueller's gang of miscreants and their manufactured nonsense is falling apart. His major, major screwup was the indictment of Russian corporations.

Manafort can sit back and watch the Mueller misadventure go up in flames.

A June 14th filing on behalf of Internet Research Agency LLC is an epic takedown of the desperate filing of Mueller mob, pointing out that Mueller mob is engaged in "fake law, which is much more dangerous than fake news."

The utter demolition of the Mueller mob filing is a fun read.

[At 2] Having produced not one iota of discovery in this criminal case, the unlawfully appointed Special Counsel requests a special and unprecedented blanket protective order covering tens of millions of pages of unclassified discovery. Having made this special request based on a secret submission to the Court1 and a hysterical dithyramb about the future of American elections, one would think that the Special Counsel would cite to case holdings that support this remarkable request.2 But no, instead, the Special Counsel seeks to equate this make-believe electioneering case to others involving international terrorism and major drug trafficking, and relies only on irrelevant dicta from inapposite, primarily out-of-circuit cases. In short, fake law, which is much more dangerous than fake news.

[At 7] The Special Counsel continues his cruise through out of circuit cases containing no precedent....

[At 8] Not yet ashamed, the Special Counsel plays the personal identifying information (“PII”) card.

[At 9] As the Special Counsel reaches his shameful crescendo....

[At 9] To wrap up this disingenuous mess the Special Counsel cites to two out-of-circuit cases [case citations omitted] apparently hoping that the Court will not read any of these cases either.

[At 11] The Special Counsel’s requests are fashioned to deal with problems of his own making. He alone decided who and when to indict. There are no statute of limitations issues apparent from the face of the Indictment. He chose to indict a case while his investigation was apparently ongoing. He must deal with the consequences or he can dismiss the case.

https://www.scribd.com/document/382036097/US-v-Internet-Research-Agency-LLC-Doc-27-Def-Motion-for-Protective-Order

He can tell Mueller to go hump himself and wait for Mueller to get run out of town.

Ok, enjoy the show!

Do you really believe that Manafort is innocent of being a greasy lobbyist?

He's not laundered money or evaded taxes? Tampered with witnesses?

He deserves to go down hard - so does Cohen.

Maybe a judge or two will agree.....

Do you really believe that Manafort is innocent of being a greasy lobbyist?

Do you really believe that Mueller is commissioned on investigate decades old greasy lobbying?

Tampered with witnesses?

There is not one shred of evidence in the public domain, but you are invited to share yours. The allegations were made in an ex parte presentation by the Mueller mob with no defense counsel present. If you have access to what was said or presented, do tell.

He deserves to go down hard - so does Cohen.

Do share your evidence on Cohen as well.

What specific crime is he going down for?

We have actual evidence of criminality by the FBI and Hillary Clinton.

Maybe a judge or two will agree.....

Maybe they will have to persuade a jury. It is old fashioned, I know, but they still use juries.

Mueller mob

Good use of talking points "word of the day"!

I do not claim to have any evidence, how could I?

Cohen is as greasy a "lawyer" as there is - refers to himself as a "fixer" - I think that once it is disclosed where all that money ended up - there might be some clear criminal activity. If there is ( and I believe there is) I'd love to see him pay.

Same with Manafort -

We have actual evidence of criminality by the FBI and Hillary Clinton.

lock them up too.

Don't give anyone a pass.

Nobody flips? ok with me. - Everyone flips? even better.

Everyone flips?

If someone such as Peter Strzok were to flip, who would he flip to?

The word of the day had to be dithyramb.

The quip of the day had to be, "fake law, which is much more dangerous than fake news."

The Mueller mob was caught using Fake Law.

THE PROBLEM: There are still precious few competent people who are willing to serve President Trump endure the constant attacks from the MSM, the corrupt Feeb, and its spies.

Not if a person is unwilling to take the trouble to look for them. I'm sick of lame excuses from weaklings.

Most important of all, judges are impartial decision-makers in the pursuit of justice.

If that's the case then why do we have Obamacare?

On what planet? Oh right...

Uranus?