Actually, the Miss America contest could end up being really fun to watch if the fat ugly ones keep advancing to the top.

Or there will be no replacement. Which may be just as well, by some reasoning.

Or there will be no replacement. Which may be just as well, by some reasoning.

Maybe beauty pageants are a dumbass tradition from the 20th century and no one should miss them when they do go away.

Maybe beauty pageants are a dumbass tradition from the 20th century and no one should miss them when they do go away.

Women have a natural propensity to want to be beautiful. Always have, always will. Us guys like to race cars, women like to race beauty. There's nothing intuitively wrong with either.

It made sense to me at the time and it still does.

The focus of the article was on their faces. I really should quit calling my girlfriend lard ass.

Women have a natural propensity to want to be beautiful. Always have, always will. Us guys like to race cars, women like to race beauty. There's nothing intuitively wrong with either.

They mostly tend to primp and groom competitively so they can give other less attractive women a big case of envy, turn anorexic, make them start cutting themselves, or have major depression.

There is a really vicious side to beauty pageants in general. Isn't it enough that they have all the great advantages of beauty without rubbing the faces of those less fortunate in it?

No, away with these horrible pageants. Especially the child pageants which are the most grotesque of all.

Especially the child pageants which are the most grotesque of all.

I agree with you here 2Comm. Most people will say something like your daughter is cute or adorable or pretty, depending on their age. Yes, the focus is on appearance.

My biggest compliment will be: you have a polite, well-behaved daughter or son. But only if they are.

My biggest compliment will be: you have a polite, well-behaved daughter or son.

It is a more worthy, more socially oriented behavioral goal than this constant obsession with personal appearance and youth. Most of it is driven by the youth-oriented advertising market. It's not just culture, it's economic as well.

What is supposed to be so wrong with judging people by their character and intelligence and job performance instead of superficial and often-temporary qualities of youth and beauty?

As a culture, we value youth and beauty over many other more important qualities, to the detriment of society.

I read something years ago that the most beautiful women were average or normal, meaning their eyes were the normal distance apart, their noses were average size and angle, their lips were the average distance from their nose and had the average width, etc. ad nauseum.

It made sense to me at the time and it still does.

I've heard that as well, long ago. If you create a composite woman with average everything, then she'd be quite stunning. At least in a generic type of way... if that's not a contradiction.

I do think some women with a set of unique but complimentary characteristics can be beautiful.

Though not to this extreme....

Video tape it, sell it to people that are constipated, but do not want to take a laxative. Make a killing !! LOL !!!

Miss America has scrapped the tradition of judging contestants on their physical appearance altogether....

They can just broadcast the pageant on the radio.

They mostly tend to primp and groom competitively so they can give other less attractive women a big case of envy, turn anorexic, make them start cutting themselves, or have major depression.

Well that's an allegation and one that may be true in some cases but not in others. But it's hardly the only contest in life that can make non-winners feel bad, and in any other competitive context, is it not the conservative sentiment that winners deserve awards and giving everyone a prize is defeats the productive, competitive spirit?

There is a really vicious side to beauty pageants in general. Isn't it enough that they have all the great advantages of beauty without rubbing the faces of those less fortunate in it?

Again, any beauty pageant winner with such an arrogant sentiment would be, on it's face, unfit for the crown as it would go against the other qualities they have claimed to have looked for. Beauties who have bitchy hearts would/should be rejected for the crown. Or so they would claim, at least.

You used the word "obsessed" in another post to refer to what some women are in regards to their appearance. I agree if it reaches that point, it's a problem, but no less so than a guy might be about his car that pours tons of money into and waxes once a week. And on the other extreme, some people take a strong sense of offense because they pay too much attention to the subject of a woman's physical beauty. There is a psychological aspect of that where what they really take offense at is not a woman wanting to be beautiful, but (in the case of a man) his own human sexual desire for such a woman. But rather than deal with his own humanity, he instead projects blame for what he feels on the woman. And that's wrong.

But perhaps the reason why Sheria law Muslims want women completely covered, and perhaps why, paradoxically, they also see heaven as a place where they get 72 virgins to have sex with.

They can just broadcast the pageant on the radio.

I think the judges should either be certified blind or forced to wear blindfolds.

You can't be too safe.

You heard it here first.

There is a really vicious side to beauty pageants in general.

Hello! Anybody home?

There is a really viscous side to life in general.

Especially the child pageants which are the most grotesque of all.

I agree with you here 2Comm. Most people will say something like your daughter is cute or adorable or pretty, depending on their age.

I agree with both of you on this.

Besides,it's pointless. When was the last time you saw a toddler that wasn't almost unbearably cute?

We are hard-wired to think of children as adorable in order to make sure we feed and protect them so future generations are possible.

Or at least most of us are. Some people see them as sexual objects,which is one reason we are by nature hard-wired to find them adorable and want to protect them. If I catch someone molesting or harming a child,they are in a HEAP of bleeping trouble,and I don't care whose child it is or who they are.

I suspect most of you feel the same way. This is the big reason I could never be a cop. I considered it right after getting out of the army,but I knew there was practically zero chance of any child molester/murderer I arrested making it to lockup in original condition,or even still breathing without whimpering.

If you can't do the job the way it is supposed to be done,you have no right to collect the money.

What is supposed to be so wrong with judging people by their character and intelligence and job performance instead of superficial and often-temporary qualities of youth and beauty?

You can't judge pre-teens by those standards because they are not fully-formed humans yet.

They are "humans in training" and it is up to all of us to train them by word as well as example.