Did they get a search warrant for that breathalyzer. You constitutionally need one.

She was a minor in possession of alcohol. That gave them probable cause to test her.

But it's a moot point. They asked and she voluntarily complied. Twice, I think.

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

You are more like a nazi than an American constitutionalist.

Anyhow. If there was probable cause where is the oath or affirmation.

but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

anything could’ve been written down on that paper so I wouldn’t give it to him.

She says that twice. Can't she read?

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated

Her person was secure, the alcohol was not concealed on her body or clothing. She wasn't in a house/home/residence, no personal papers were involved, and I don't think alcohol in plain sight qualifies as an "effect" but as visible contraband (when possessed by a minor). And they didn't search her at all. She even alleges that they didn't seize the alcohol after they arrested her but just left it on the beach. So where is your search and where is your seizure? Neither occurred.

I don't think the Fourth Amendment applies here.

She says that twice. Can't she read?

She doesn't write badly so she can read pretty well.

I'll bet her lawyer just loved her posting that little Facebook confession.     : )

And they didn't search her at all.

They searched her person. They searched her breath.

I know i'm in the minority and you guys think the Supreme court is god like or something.

The plain words of the constitution were violated.

They searched her person. They searched her breath.

They did not search her person that I saw. They requested a breath sample and she complied voluntarily with the request.

If you surrender a right, that's your problem. And the state and federal courts do not believe a breathalyzer violates fundamental rights. It's not like that defense has not been tried (and failed) many times in court.

The plain words of the constitution were violated.

I still don't see a search or a seizure.

They searched her person. They searched her breath.

I know i'm in the minority and you guys think the Supreme court is god like or something.

I'm with you Pebbles. I consider a breathalyzer the same as a cavity search.

It doesn't say you can search if someone is stupid and agrees to your illegal search. It says no searches.

She wasn't searched. The alcohol was in plain sight by her blanket.

What, you expect the cops to go around blindfolded so they don't see evidence of crimes providing probably cause for further investigation?

If she hadn't had the alcohol out in plain sight next to her, it seems very unlikely that they would have ever stopped to question her and then arrest her.

An officer seeing something in plain sight is not conducting a search. He's just seeing evidence.

That is the first positive comment I have received from you in many moons.

See? I told you that you were wrong. Now even Fred is agreeing with you.     : )

If they want to arrest her for the alcohol then so be it.

Like I said I'm only talking about the breathalyzer.

I believe alcohol on the beach is against the law regardless of age.

At least the beachs I've been on.

I believe alcohol on the beach is against the law regardless of age.

I'm not sure if all public beaches ban it though that is a safe bet. But a minor is always banned, on the beach or elsewhere.

This girl isn't too bright or she wouldn't have been displaying it openly. It's bound to catch any cop's eye. And the girl looks like she could be in high school.

I believe alcohol on the beach is against the law regardless of age.

At least the beaches I've been on.

Not sure if that's true.

Canned beer is fine at some, bottled (glass) beer is a no-no for obvious reasons.

So she was 5-6 months pregnant in September 2016 when she committed some pretty serious crimes. Then when her daugher wasn't even a year old, she committed more crimes and paid $10,000 restitution and court costs and got 4 years probation.

I think this is not a law-abiding person.

See? I told you that you were wrong. Now even Fred is agreeing with you. : )

Heh -- this is one of the most widely emotional, polarizing threads here in a while.

NORMALLY I'm very cynical about these types of possible over-officiousness.

I will say that the initial reports were clearly way slanted toward the Witch in question. Story was spun AGAINST LE as usual. UNTIL the Wildwood PD released th body-cam.

Drunken Witch is Guilty of several offenses. INCLUDING being an obnoxious attention-ho, disturbing the peace, incitement, lying her azz off, and assaulting a LE.

I. FULLY. CHEERED. ON. HER. BEAT-DOWN.

*My perspective*: Having worked at the Seaside NJ beaches for several years (back when), this kind of animal was simply carted away without all this phony fanfare. By screeching and screaming, she's tried to cover her own lawlessness to exploit the fake, "MEN ARE MEAN WOMEN-HATERS!" meme.

(This is the type of selfish weaselly witch who would cry, "RAPE!!!" in public in you brushed against her.)

As TC has documented above, this disrespectful witch was already ON PROBATION and NOT a good person. What we DON'T need: A bunch of these types of Dem-Leftist trouble-making anarchists pulling this BS in public as we're all trying to enjoy ourselves in peace.

Having worked at the Seaside NJ beaches for several years (back when), this kind of animal was simply carted away without all this phony fanfare.

So was busting minors for alcohol openly displayed a usual thing back when? Was this use of force something that surprised you or seemed typical for summer beach cops like these?

[I assume you had seasonal cops back then too.]

Heh -- this is one of the most widely emotional, polarizing threads here in a while.

I'll say. Fred even told me to go pound sand. My feelings were really hurt.

So she was 5-6 months pregnant in September 2016 ...

... and 18 years old. Any record of crimes committed prior to that -- and I'm guessing quite a few -- would be sealed. So, she's off to a running start and I'm sure we haven't heard the last of her, given her attitude towards the law and law enforcement.

At least the kid has a father. No idea how that happened.

Heh -- this is one of the most widely emotional, polarizing threads here in a while.

Yeah. I'm crying.

One of the cops states she’s going to have to pour out her alcohol.

Cop: "Alcohol is not allowed on the beach. You're going to have to pour it out."
Me: "Oh, I didn't realize that. OK. I'm pouring it out."
Cop: "Thank you. Have a nice day."

No assault. No beating. No arrest. No YouTube video. No Facebook posting.

I live a dull life. (But with no criminal record.)

Apparently, some people think you have a constitutional right to display that you have alcohol on a patrolled public beach even if you're a minor.

Apparently, some people think you have a constitutional right to display that you have alcohol on a patrolled public beach even if you're a minor.

I guess she actually believed what she was saying -- as long as she's not drinking it, it's legal.

Misdemeanor stupidity.

Before you declare this woman more holy than the Virgin Mary, let's look at some other reporting on her little hobbies.

Yeah,that little thing assaulted those two fat cops and had them in fear of dey widdle lifes. Da poor bayabys! And all they did was attack her and thrown her to the ground and hit her in the head!

She's a bully! A bully,ah tells ya!

As for the rest of it,sounds like a typical example of the pigs overcharging to get a plea bargain conviction. IOW,police and judicial abuse of power and authority for profit and to cover their own incompetent asses.

anything could’ve been written down on that paper so I wouldn’t give it to him.

She says that twice. Can't she read?

Maybe she thought it would be a good idea to write it twice so slow-witted people would understand it?

They searched her person. They searched her breath.

I know i'm in the minority and you guys think the Supreme court is god like or something.

I'm with you Pebbles. I consider a breathalyzer the same as a cavity search.

The sound you are hearing is that of AKA nailing a framed copy of that post to his wall.

As for the rest of it,sounds like a typical example of the pigs overcharging to get a plea bargain conviction.

Well, if she is correct and they never did actually confiscate the alcohol, then it would seem they have no physical evidence of M.I.P. All her lawyer has to do is say, "What alcohol? I see no alcohol in evidence".

So she might get off on that charge. It could cause the D.A. to drop all the charges since that was the offense that set events in motion.

Yeah,that little thing assaulted those two fat cops and had them in fear of dey widdle lifes.

They didn't look fat.

They'd only been on the job for a month or so. So they hadn't had time yet to bulk up on donuts and steroids.

New Jersey has been under Sharia Law since governor Crisco. It's mandatory in NJ now to beat women if they have alcohol, and aren't wearing a burqa.

then it would seem they have no physical evidence of M.I.P.

Just her voluntary testimony, on camera, that she illegally possessed it.

Of course she could say she was just kidding. But the cop would say he didn't know that and based his subsequent actions on what he thought was a truthful statement by her at the time.

What makes you so sure she didn't have legal authority to possess it? Maybe she was carrying it for her adult friends,or just watching it for them?

She was UNDERAGE. It was ILLEGAL and IMPOSSIBLE for her to lawfully POSSESS an alcoholic beverage. It was a not less than $500 offense. I posted the New Jersey statute.

She was UNDERAGE. It was ILLEGAL and IMPOSSIBLE for her to lawfully POSSESS an alcoholic beverage. It was a not less than $500 offense. I posted the New Jersey statute.

Define "possess". Sounds to me like you think it is illegal for her to be on a beach,or maybe even in a state,where alcoholic beverages exist.

Was she not a part of a family group,at least one of whom was an adult,who at that particular moment was in the water with her child?

Define "possess". Sounds to me like you think it is illegal for her to be on a beach,or maybe even in a state,where alcoholic beverages exist.

I posted the New Jersey statute. Try reading it.

NJ Rev Stat § 2C:33-15 (2013)

2C:33-15 Possession, consumption of alcoholic beverages by persons under legal age; penalty.

1. a. Any person under the legal age to purchase alcoholic beverages who knowingly possesses without legal authority or who knowingly consumes any alcoholic beverage in any school, public conveyance, public place, or place of public assembly, or motor vehicle, is guilty of a disorderly persons offense, and shall be fined not less than $500.00.

Was she underage?

Was she in a public place?

Did the police find the alcoholic beverage?

Did she argue that it was legal for her to possess the alcoholic beverage?

If either you or she need someone to define the word possess, a judge will do that for not less than $500.

Was she not a part of a family group,at least one of whom was an adult,who at that particular moment was in the water with her child?

Nope the "aunt" she claimed was on the way never showed. The baby daddy was playing in the water some distance away. You may have noticed she screamed for him a half-dozen times and it took him a minute or so to show up (seen in the tape by the cops yelling at him to back off).

If either you or she need someone to define the word possess, a judge will do that for not less than $500.

But she says they didn't confiscate the alcohol as evidence.

Maybe this will all blow up on an evidentiary challenge from her attorney.

"What alcohol was my client alleged to possess, your honor?" Then the other charges probably evaporate.

The baby daddy was playing in the water some distance away. You may have noticed she screamed for him a half-dozen times and it took him a minute or so to show up (seen in the tape by the cops yelling at him to back off).

Well,he was probably foolish enough to think there was no danger of his wife being attacked on a public beach in broad daylight.

Well,he was probably foolish enough to think there was no danger of his wife being attacked on a public beach in broad daylight.

He was just a baby daddy, not a husband and has another 16.5 years of being on the hook financially for her baby. Assuming that it really is his baby and not some other guy's. IOW, he's a dumbass however you slice it.

He was just a baby daddy, not a husband

So what?

So what?

So: you were factually inaccurate. Neither he nor his Feckless Cunt baby mama had any lifetime commitment to each other.

So: you were factually inaccurate. Neither he nor his Feckless Cunt baby mama had any lifetime commitment to each other.

That's just pathetic. Desperation in order to try to win a losing argument is never pretty,but you are taking it to new lows.

Desperation in order to try to win a losing argument is never pretty,but you are taking it to new lows.

The article describes him as "her daughter's father". Not a husband, not a fiancee. The child is an infant only 18mo old. And that makes him the baby daddy.

The article describes him as "her daughter's father". Not a husband, not a fiancee. The child is an infant only 18mo old. And that makes him the baby daddy.

So what? In WHAT important way does that make any difference at all? How does it change anything?

I was merely correcting this impression. They aren't married, they aren't engaged, she and her baby live with her mom, I think.

You were suggesting they were a pair with legal status or declared intentions.

I was suggesting there was an adult of legal age to possess beer as a part of the group.

I was suggesting there was an adult of legal age to possess beer as a part of the group.

There wasn't. She told the cops her "aunt" was on the way. The "aunt" never showed. She made a CreepBook post after that said she was M.I.P. and excusing it by saying the 90% of the minors on the beach were also M.I.P. Then she deleted the post but someone snapshotted it before she got it deleted.

Neither he nor his Feckless Cunt baby mama had any lifetime commitment to each other.

Hey! You can't say "cunt". Oh, wait. Yes you can. I forgot that word is now an accepted part of American lexicon. Sorry.

(But why do I have this nagging feeling that the word would still be taboo if a conservative comedian referred to Michelle's children that way?)

She told the cops her "aunt" was on the way.

Well, you see yer Honor, I thought it was legal for me to have a gun as long as I didn't shoot it. And, uh, my aunt was on the way and she has a license. And, uh, just about everyone else had a gun.