Canton, OH In the Land of the Free, police officers can and will escalate a situation to the point of kidnapping, severely injuring, or killing you for failing to place a license plate in the front of your car. The extremely graphic footage below is evidence of this policy and it is nothing short of horrifying.
Ron Wagner II had harmed no one, had stolen nothing, and was merely driving his car, when he was stopped by police in Canton, Ohio. During the stop, Wagner, knowing hed hurt no one, decided to not give his ID to police as a form of peaceful protest to a state code that he feels violates the constitution.
Wagner was stopped for failing to screw a license plate to the front of his car. For peacefully protesting an Ohio code requiring him to put that license plate on the front of his car, police escalated the situation, and within minutes, Wagner was dragged from his car and mauled by a police K9.
Im just a lawful peaceful man, travelling from point A to point B, Wagner told the officers. I have no warrants.
Much of what Wagner was saying is based on Constitutional interpretations that differentiate between commercial vehicle use and private vehicle use. This talk often enrages police officers who refer to people like Wagner as threats, calling them sovereigns or sovereign citizens.
To show just how much police escalated the situation, Wagners peaceful protest was cordial at points, with one officer simply talking about his dash camera. During the stop, the officer even made the admission, I dont think youve committed any crime.
At this point, Wagner should have been told he can go, but he was not. Just five minutes later, and he would be screaming in agony.
This is whats gonna happen, I am going to break that window. At which time that window is broke, Im gonna send this 100lb Belgian Malinois in there and hes gonna apprehend you . At which time, Im gonna drag him and you out on the ground. If you continue to resist, there will be pain compliance put upon you until you no longer resist.
To reiterate, this man had not robbed a store. He had not stolen property. He had harmed absolutely no one, yet he was pulled from his car, mauled to the point of being severely injured and hospitalized, all stemming from a traffic stop over a front license plate.
Yes, to those who say Wagner should have just showed his license and been on his way, this violence likely would not have happened to him. However, he was merely engaging in a peaceful protest of a law which he considers unjust. This type of civil disobedience is the very fabric of what a free society is built uponand for practicing itan otherwise innocent man was mauled.
TFTP pulled the Ohio code that states citizens must put on a front license plate. Below is the code:
(2) Whoever violates division (A) of this section by failing to display a license plate in plain view on the front of a motor vehicle as required under division (A) of this section while the motor vehicle is otherwise legally parked is guilty of a minor misdemeanor and may be fined not more than one hundred dollars.
Ron Wagner served his country in the United States Marine Corps and made it out safe, only to come home and get stopped by the very system he fought forwhich pulled him from his car and mauled him nearly to deathover a maximum fine of $200.
Below is this most disturbing video. Warning it is graphic.
If youd like peacefully voice your opposition to the treatment of Wagner, you can do so at the Canton Police Departments Facebook Page, here.
#1: no gnu taxes To: Deckard, Pinguinite (#0)
http://www.cantonrep.com/news/20180515/driver-with-homemade-license-plate-bitten-by-canton-police-dog
no gnu taxes posted on 2018-05-16 07:33:49 Reply Private Reply
#2: Vicomte13 To: Deckard (#0)
Are there laws worth resisting? Sure. In America's past there were Fugitive Slave Acts that were rightly resisted and evaded. It would have even been right to have killed enforcement agents to prevent them from capturing and returning slaves. There are things worth dying for, and there are things worth killing for, and if the laws are horrendous enough, one has the right to directly attack the police and the army and kill them. The Third Reich and Stalinist Russia comes to mind, and so does America in the age of the Fugitive Slave Act. Murder by the State and slavery are such heinous crimes that one does in fact have the right of revolution and direct violent attack if one encounters it.
But even in those situations one is very likely to lose. The price of one man revolts is generally the life of the man who revolted. John Brown was not wrong to seek to foment a slave revolt, but he failed and paid with his life.
We do not live in philosophical ivory towers, though some of us like to talk as though we do, or should. Yes, there are things worth dying for, some oppressions so terrible that they justify shooting the agents of the government. Those oppressions are things that involve gas chambers, cattle cars, biological experiments, summary executions, slavery and the like.
There are things that are bad enough that open civil disobedience is also warranted. When Martin Luther King Jr. led the parade in Selma, he was right, and many of those bull-necked cops who turned firehoses and dogs on them are no doubt now burning in Gehenna for their evil.
But license plates and showing driver's licenses, to the cops, at a traffic stop? Come on. Car Licensing serves the dual purpose of revenue collection and identification. Driver Licensing allows for identification, and ensures a modicum of driver qualification. On balance we want those things, at least most of us do. And if we don't, no reasonable person can argue that being asked to produce a license while driving on the public roads, or obeying the car licensing requirements is anything akin to being asked to produce a fugitive slave, or a hiding Jew.
The fact that this guy is a USMC veteran makes the case worse for him. What, do veterans not have to obey the laws? Are Marine Corps veterans, or combat veterans in general, exempt from taxes or other basic laws? No. Nor should they be. His former military status, or active duty military status, does not give him any sort of pass when it comes to putting a license plate on his car or producing a driver's license, and it's obnoxious to suggest it should.
Nor is it a matter of defending "constitutional rights", at least not rights that I'm ready to go fight and die for. What "right"? The right to not produce driver's ID when driving on a public road? There is no such constitutional right; nor should there be. The "right" to not obey the licensure requirements? The "right" to tell cops to go pound sand when they ask for ID under these circumstances?
I just don't see any such right. Nor do I see it as a constitutional issue. I think it's just inevitable that if you get pissy with a cop over nothing, bad things are going to happen to you. I'm not saying that the guy deserved to get attacked by a dog, but I AM saying that elevating this to a constitutional matter is not going anywhere with me or most other people. Show him your damned license, Marine, and put a license on your car like everybody else has to. Petty things like this are not a hill worth dying on, and I'm not going to save your ass if you decide you're going to go have a pissing contest with a cop. OF COURSE you're going to get your ass kicked. Duh.
Vicomte13 posted on 2018-05-16 08:04:47 Reply Private Reply
#3: misterwhite To: Deckard (#0)
The same thing happened to me near Columbus, Ohio some time ago. My front license plate had fallen off and I put it in the back seat, meaning to install it later.
When I was (rightfully) pulled over, I produced the required documentation, explained my situation, and got off with a warning.
I was not pulled from the car and mauled by a K-9. That must be new.
misterwhite posted on 2018-05-16 10:37:42 Reply Private Reply
#4: misterwhite To: Deckard (#0)
Hey! Maybe THAT'S why he was pulled out of car and mauled by a K-9, not because he had no front plate.
Ya think?
misterwhite posted on 2018-05-16 10:39:51 Reply Private Reply
#5: misterwhite To: Deckard (#0)
misterwhite posted on 2018-05-16 10:45:12 Reply Private Reply
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misterwhite posted on 2018-05-16 10:58:24 Reply Private Reply
#7: nolu chan To: Deckard (#0)
http://www.cantonrep.com/news/20180515/driver-with-homemade-license-plate-bitten-by-canton-police-dog
At TFTP, front means the other back, and missing substitutes for a home made plate being present. The bogus plate number [UCC 1-308] is on the police citation, and the bogus rear plate is discussed and shown (around 9m:00s mark) on the police video.
POLICE VIDEO:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/1/1-308
Below, the Small Business Administration describes what the Uniform Commericial Code is, and how it may be applicable (not to Wagner or his sovereign citizen imagination).
https://www.sba.gov/category/navigation-structure/starting-managing-business/starting-business/understand-business-law-7
Wagner committed several misdemeanors. A misdemeanor is a class of criminal offense, less serious than a felony.
He should not have been released for spouting nonsense, nor for refusing to identify himself.
Spouting idiotic sovereign citizen interpretations of the constitution is no excuse.
He was told he had to comply. He was told the consequences of non-compliance. He felt, quite wrongly, that the Ohio Code violated the Constitution. Then he felt the 100 pound K9 arrest him.
Another one of Uncle Sam's Misguided Children. I'll be he never tried this sort of crap on his drill sergeant.
http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/4503.21
nolu chan posted on 2018-05-16 17:19:50 Reply Private Reply