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Building a Wall in the Dark Congress is using budget shenanigans to funnel Pentagon money to President Trump’s border wall.

By Ryan Alexander

So, the US Army Corps of Engineers are going to have a 25 BILLION dollar training/exercise on the US border between Mexico?

No,shithead,THE US MILITARY will be using money from their annual budgets to build the wall. Granted,the US Army Corps of Engineers will probably head up the effort because they are the largest engineering unit in the military and have the most officers and NCO's that are qualified to supervise the job,but the US Navy,USAF,and the USMC will also be involved. Especially the reserve units.

I thought Trump was supposed to make MEXICO pay for the wall...

They pay later. Even if they don't and we get it who cares. It saves money. It saves our culture.

Bucky just wants to whine.

That requires Congressional approval.

Read my links. They gave the President the power to realocate funds in 1985 to fight the deficit.

Trump is smoking the same wacky-tabaky that you are.

It saves our culture.

Jorge Dubya Arbusto flushed that down the toilet a long time ago & there's no going back.

But that isn't the question.

It is the material support: bricks, mortar, cement, technical support and surveillance equipment. These material resources add up to BILLIONS of bucks. That requires Congressional approval.

Yeah,it is. Unless you think maybe the bricks,mortar,cement,etc,etc,etc will dig and pour the footings,build the forms,and pour the cement themselves.

I don't want to shock you,but that comes out of the defense budget. How did you think the military engineers train without bricks,mortar,etc,etc,etc? The ONLY way to learn to build something is to build something.

I don't know why the USA is involved in Syria, to begin with.

I have to admit that is a mystery to me and many other people,also.

But, there is allocation of funding by this silly & stupid Congress.

Of course there was/is. It is a unplanned (in more ways than one,it seems)military movement to a foreign nation. In other words,it wasn't funded in the annual budget.

You are a little touchy, today.

Yeah,I am.I am fed UP with the constant whining by RINO bitches about anything and everything Trump does or says in an effort to make his presidency fail.

If Trump came out in favor of sunshine,you shitheads would suddenly hate it and call him a traitor to "truth,justice,and the 'murikan way of electing RINO slugs".

But, let's go back to details:

Ok.

there is no specific allocation of Congressional approval for a 25 BILLION dollar wall.

Nor does there have to be,dummy! Civilians aren't being hired to build it. The US Military will be building it AS A PART OF THEIR NORMAL OCCUPATIONAL TRAINING,AND THE MONEY TO PAY THEM HAS ALREADY BEEN BUDGETED.

DAYUM,how many times does this simple fact have to be explained to you?

Where did you hear about this idea?

Jorge Dubya Arbusto flushed that down the toilet a long time ago & there's no going back.

With MUCHO help from his fellow travelers who dream of a Global World Government that has everyone under their thumb.

Nor does there have to be,dummy! Civilians aren't being hired to build it. The US Military will be building it AS A PART OF THEIR NORMAL OCCUPATIONAL TRAINING,AND THE MONEY TO PAY THEM HAS ALREADY BEEN BUDGETED.

You have missed the obvious details, Pete. Where is the approval of funding for the bricks & mortar?

A permanent structure authorized by the POTUS does not require Congressional approval by Congress for funding?

Where did you hear about this idea?

Ok,you are living proof that you can lead a jackass to water,but you can't make him drink.

Go back to eating your boogers and leave the rest of us alone.

I'm not a sure how it works constitutionally. But it is in the interest of national defense to build the wall then the military can have this wall built.

You have missed the obvious details, Pete. Where is the approval of funding for the bricks & mortar?

I have already explained to you it comes out of the annual training budget. If you can't understand something as basic as engineers need building materials to train,and that those building materials are a part of the normal military budget,there is no hope for you.

BTW,don't even TRY a dumbass "Duuuuuhhhh,iz day iny bricks in de budgit n kin yew sho dim to me?" question. Overall budgets don't name specific items. There is a section that will have a title something like "construction materials for proposed training projects",but that is about as specific as it gets for an annual budget.

Annual budgets HAVE to be flexible because no one can predict what will happen in the future.

But you really know all this,anyhow. You just want to whine about Trump.

But it is in the interest of national defense to build the wall then the military can have this wall built.

Congress declares war. Congress allocates the budget. It isn't based on some insane idea of Presidential dictatorial powers.

Hey, pal, that means he has declared a WAR on the US border between Mexico/USA.

Wow. That's as dumb as a democRat.

I have already explained to you it comes out of the annual training budget. If you can't understand something as basic as engineers need building materials to train,and that those building materials are a part of the normal military budget,there is no hope for you.

25 BILLION USD for a couple of years? Who are you kidding when the US Defense Department is about 600 Billion.

But, there is allocation of funding by this silly & stupid Congress.

General military funding, sure. But not specifically for a wall in Syria.

The President has the authority and obligation to protect Americans, right? Normally, he delegates this authority to the people below him. But he has the power to tell them speciically how to use that money.

Nixon did in the (undelared) Vietnam War by ordering specific bombing missions on Hanoi (Operation Linebacker II) and targets in Cambodia. Johnson did it with Operation Rolling Thunder.

General military funding, sure. But not specifically for a wall in Syria.

When US personnel are intentionally placed in harm's way, as in Syria, it is understood. Presence of military in Syria is somehow approved by a stupid & silly Congress.

On the USA/Mexico border .... no way.

The problem I see is if Trump has it put up the next president can have it taken down or have no maintenance done on wall and then wink to the drug lords to blow it up.

Congress allocates the budget. It isn't based on some insane idea of Presidential dictatorial powers.

Hmmmm. Congress passed a drug budget, but Obama -- using his "dictatorial" powers -- refused to fund marijuana enforcement and directed those funds elsewhere.

Seems to me that nobody, including you, had a problem with that.

When US personnel are intentionally placed in harm's way, as in Syria, it is understood.

The U.S. military invaded Grenada in 1983 "over concerns for the 600 U.S. medical students on the island and fears of a repeat of the Iran hostage crisis".

Those students were not intentionally placed in arms way.

The problem I see is if Trump has it put up the next president can have it taken down

That's true of any Executive Order by any President. Trump is having a field day overturning Obama's EO's.

But if the wall is put up and we experience positive results, I don't see how it can be torn down. That's really what the Democrats fear -- that it will actually work.

Hey, pal, that means he has declared a WAR on the US border between Mexico/USA.

War cannot be declared against borders. Only countries, of course.

He certainly has authority to order the military to build things. The only thing I can think of that might stop him from doing this is the eminent domain requirements to for private land holders near the border, as it may require a law passed to seize that land. I don't know.

But I think it's likely that the president could have an avenue this way. The amount of money cited for the whole wall is far less than the military budget that was passed.

Trump has already out done both bushes and if he pulls off the wall he will be up there with President Reagan in just over one freaking year! Doing all this while fighting the progressive left(commies) from both parties and 99% of the media!!

I love that he does not give up and just keeps beating the progressive left at nearly everything. I believe the left(both parties) thought they could just roll right over Trump and send him home with his tail between his legs!

Another thing as much as I know about Trump those that went after his family just pissed him off more! Which makes him fight harder.

If Trump can dismantle Obummercare and get the wall! OMG he will be worth everything he does! LOL

He's got until November, 2020. If he doesn't get it done by then, he might just as well not even run. He will not get my vote.

Another thing as much as I know about Trump those that went after his family just pissed him off more! Which makes him fight harder.

Here's another thing we know about Trump; When he feels he's been betrayed (by certain advisers), embarrassed and rolled (which is rare), THAT makes him even more resolute. And he IS extremely embarrassed over this debacle.

Initially I thought the Deep State and Ryan/McConnell just steamrolled him, blackmailing Trump into signing this Budget monstrosity (That may still be the case)...

But I've got the feeling that DT is preparing some yuge redemptive moves. Some that will shock & awe. Wishful thinking? Perhaps.

I thought Trump was supposed to make MEXICO pay for the wall...

He was,and maybe will down the road by using taxes/tarriffs on anything entering the US from Mexico...

Yup.

There are many indirect ways that Mexico can and will wind up financing this Wall.

Trump can also return DACA and Illegals to Mexico who have been bleeding billions in US Taxpayer subsidies.

In FACT,why even blame Trump for this?

Yeah,he ran for president with this being a large part of his platform,but who can blame him for ASSUMING that a Republican Congress would go along with a newly elected Republican President,instead of joining hands with the left in a Kumbaya Moment?

Amen! (But remember -- Willie is now a loyal Democrat.)

It should indeed be noted htat McConnell (D) and Ryan (D) are most responsible for blackmailing OTHER Congressional Pubbies into betraying the President and the conservative, America First agenda, colluding with the Dem-Left. What they've done is unprecedented. Imagine Dems voting against 0bama en mass? NOPE, me neither.

Blame the traitors in congress with R's behind their names,and their treasonous supporters,

Yes. Exactly.

Why and how is Mitch McConnell avoiding scrutiny and any criticism at all?? Oh, that's right -- the Dem-Left controlled MEDIA has his back.

Trump is between a rock & hard place if he goes after McConnell. And McConnell knows it.

THIS book might help (excerpt from Breitbart):

[Peter] Schweizer joined Monday’s edition of SiriusXM’s Breitbart News Tonight for an interview with co-hosts Rebecca Mansour and Joel Pollak to discuss McConnell’s linkages to China, as detailed in his latest book, Secret Empires: How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Family and Friends. 

You remember obamite the sodomite don't you, the two bit sodomite traitorous muslim terrorist who usurped and held the oval office till Donald Trump rescued it.

As much as I hate to agree with bucky, I thought Trump was supposed to make MEXICO pay for the wall...

So what's with this bait & switch?

I had thought better of you.

Read the dec 21 2017 EO, think Chappo or whatever the creep drug dealers name that that that movie guy set up, he had something like 24 billion, we grabbed it, he is a mexican, now we spend it on the wall, and mexico pays more towards the wall.

Each time a Mexican sends money south of the border, a percentage is grabbed and is allocated towards construction of the wall.

while you play hop scotch with Bucky, the President plays 3D chess.

the President plays 3D chess.

the President is obviously no chess player, he has no respect for pawns and looses his capital pieces one after another

Trump tweet: military is going to build the wall!

Make it a good one out of steel reinforced concrete and manned sniper turrets every quarter mile.

IF Presidents didn't have this authority WHY didn't the left file lawsuits against LBJ and Nixon during the VN war to keep them from sending troops to VN or anywhere else?

Because knew they were supporting a catastrophe from which the U. S. would not recover. They did'nt want to file lawsuits to keep that catastrophe from happening.

He certainly has authority to order the military to build things.

He better claim a national emergency and I doubt he will do that.

He better claim a national emergency and I doubt he will do that.

I understand the USA has been in an official state of continuous national emergency since it was declared by President Franklin D Roosevelt, in which case, that part is already done.

Perhaps they should establish a state of "extra" national emergency.

There is no provision of a US/Mexico WALL construction project. There is just a few miles of fencing reconstruction.

He was a “garrison soldier” stationed in Munich during the Nam conflict.

He had a photographer’s MOS.

Still,even a photographer in the military should know this. It's not like it's hidden.

If Trump t.r.u.m.p.s the Congressional Omnibus Act (the budget without parsing words) after signing it, he is in BIG DEEP DOODOO.

Yeah, right.

And so is Hillary for having a private email server with classified info on it. And for doing pay for play as Sec of State. And stealing the D nomination from Sanders. And a couple dozen other things.

There is no provision of a US/Mexico WALL construction project. There is just a few miles of fencing reconstruction.

Yes, that's generally understood.

Buck, look, you hate Trump. A lot of people really, really hate Trump. I get it, and it's okay. I do see his personal shortcomings. Everyone does. Yes, he's a womanizer. And I don't even care for his policies on civil liberties and foreign policy. He sucks there, though I am hoping that maybe he'll figure out soon that Putin is not the Great Satan that everyone around him has been telling him.

But please just admit your personal hatred and don't pretend that all these lines in the sand and political criticisms are anything but disguised hatred. For anyone who does that, my respect for them will definitely go up. Why? Because I respect honesty. Trump may very well build the wall with the military funds. Certainly, a defensive wall at the country's border can fall within the domain of national defense. But unlike you, I don't have hopes staked on whether it happens or not because the USA is already totally screwed anyway. But good luck to you.

I don't "hate" Trump; I don't like the fact that he represents self-interests and not the common man, is all.

I think that's the stereotype given he's a billionaire or whatever. But I don't think that's really true. I think he is patriotic and really does want to do what's best for the country and middle class. It's politicians like Hillary that claim to be for the little people who in no way are. The Dem's demonstrated it is first class fashion when they completely threw away the chance to make a permanent deal for Dreamers. Dreamers should understand now that the D's are only using them as a tool, that their predicament is a valuable thing for the D's only as long as their predicament exists, and that after any deal is made for them, the D's will have no more use for them.

Politicians are used to being bought and bribed, but since Trump doesn't need anyone's money, he's not bribeable. At least not with money. Maybe with women, but not money.

I will say, unlike others before him, he doesn't hide behind a "fork tongue."

And I think that's his appeal to the average person. They are sick and tired of standard political double speak & BS. Trump says what he really thinks. It's sometime vulgar. It's sometimes offensive. But it's real. And people are hungry for a real president who says what he really thinks. That's a *very* refreshing thing, even for women who are otherwise offended by his sexist personal behavior.

Thank you.

I think that's the stereotype given he's a billionaire or whatever. But I don't think that's really true.

I am not concerned with his wealth. I am concerned with "conviction of principle."

I think he is patriotic and really does want to do what's best for the country and middle class.

Don't they all?

It's politicians like Hillary that claim to be for the little people who in no way are.

Don't they all?

The Dem's demonstrated it is first class fashion when they completely threw away the chance to make a permanent deal for Dreamers. Dreamers should understand now that the D's are only using them as a tool, that their predicament is a valuable thing for the D's only as long as their predicament exists, and that after any deal is made for them, the D's will have no more use for them.

It was part of their strategy to move the 1.3 Trillion dollar Omnibus Act. They won, too.

Read the dec 21 2017 EO, think Chappo or whatever the creep drug dealers name that that that movie guy set up, he had something like 24 billion, we grabbed it,

You do realize that this didn't actually happen, right?

.....Rafael Cruz introduced a bill in congress in 2017 in an attempt to confiscate El Chapo's billions.....it is languishing in committee with little chance of passing..........

and as for the tax on outgoing transfers to Mexico......which number EO was that again?

He certainly has authority to order the military to build things.

He better claim a national emergency and I doubt he will do that.

He doesn't even have to give a reason,never mind explain anything.

You seem to be incapable of understanding this,so I am done trying to explain it to you.

Certainly, a defensive wall at the country's border can fall within the domain of national defense. But unlike you, I don't have hopes staked on whether it happens or not because the USA is already totally screwed anyway. But good luck to you.

Bucky is terrified that Trump WILL build the wall,and he will then have one less thing to whine about,and MIGHT even be forced to admit Trump did something right.

His fear of Trump being successful is why he is so angry and desperate.

Politicians are used to being bought and bribed, but since Trump doesn't need anyone's money, he's not bribeable. At least not with money.

THE prime reason so many politicians and the people who rent and buy politicians hate him so much and want to see him fail.

He doesn't even have to give a reason,never mind explain anything.

If the USA operated under your oversight, I could understand the perspective. But, the USA doesn't; it operates under the US Constitution, which has three major groups to keep a check on the government.

The US Constitution requires communication between the major divisions of the federal government and particularly, the US Congress and the Administration.

Never mind. I'd done trying to explain that to you,too.