Yeah, he needs a little ACT BY CONGRESS to declare a war, correct?

Yes,he does.

WHEN did he declare war,and WHY? Where did you get that brain fart from,the National Enquirer?

He can not misuse or re-allocate funds based on prerogative. It would lead to impeachment.

You don't even have a fucking clue as to what you are talking about. ANY president can send active duty and reserve military units anywhere in the US they want to send them,at any time,and don't have to ask ANYBODY for permission.

National Guard troops are the only exception since they come under the command of the governors of the various states,but if there has ever been a time in the history of the US since 1865 that any governor refused to release his militia members (prior to the establishment of the NG) to a sitting president,I am not aware of it.

Since you know so much,why don't YOU tell us all of some examples that prove I am wrong,Princess?

He can't re-allocate Congressional funding for his own pet projects. He would get impeachment.

Oh really buckeroo

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/text-letter-president-speaker- house-representatives-president-senate-21/

Dear Mr. Speaker: (Dear Mr. President:)

In accordance with section 7058(d) of division K of the Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2018 (H.R. 1625; the “Act”), I hereby designate as an emergency requirement all funding so designated by the Congress in the Act pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985, for the accounts referenced in section 7058(d).

The details of this action are set forth in the enclosed memorandum from the Director of the Office of Management and Budget.

Sincerely,

DONALD J. TRUMP

He can't re-allocate Congressional funding for his own pet projects. He would get impeachment.

He DOESN'T HAVE TO RE-ALLOCATE THE FUNDS BECAUSE THE FUNDING IS ALREADY ALLOCATED TO THE ACTIVE DUTY AND THE RESERVE MILITARY UNITS.

He also doesn't have to ask permission of ANYBODY to send reserve or active duty military units anywhere in the US,either.

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There is no specific allocation of funds for building a wall. Trump is full of shit.

As much as I hate to agree with bucky, I thought Trump was supposed to make MEXICO pay for the wall...

So what's with this bait & switch?

You have been smoking some wacky-tabacky, Pete.

I like being on your side instead of against you. :)

It had to happen sooner or later,right?

Sometimes different is good.

(Start at pages 36-37 of the download, under Title X, Sections 1100-)

Congress has 45 days to submit items for rescission, and to vote.

5 posted on 3/24/2018, 7:08:15 PM by research99

"There is no specific allocation of funds for building a wall. Trump is full of shit."

Is the military allowed to build a wall around the 2,000 U.S. troops stationed in Manbij, Syria?

I thought Trump was supposed to make MEXICO pay for the wall...

They pay later. Even if they don't and we get it who cares. It saves money. It saves our culture.

Is the military allowed to build a wall around the 2,000 U.S. troops stationed in Manbij, Syria?

Often, you post the most outrageous ideas. Answer your own question while considering a method of comparative analysis.

docs.house.gov/billsthisw...PSSOM%20FY18-OMNI.OCR.pdf

That's true,but it doesn't really apply since he wouldn't be sending US troops anybody but in the US. Yeah,Texas,especially around Austin,and all of California can be more than a little foreign to sane people,but they are STILL US states.

I repeat,NO President has to ask anybody for a single damn thing to see American troops anywhere in America,and to even suggest he would have to get permission to send them to Texas,Arizona,California,or any other American state to do construction projects as part of their annual training mission is absurd.

Don't believe me,ask anybody that ever served on active or reserve duty with ANY branch of the US Military.

It's been decades since I even looked at any of my printed assignment or transfer orders,but IIRC,EVERY ONE OF THEM had "by order of the President of the United States......" on them.

How many of you loons think that either/both LBJ or Nixon took time of their day to think to themselves,"what I really need to do today is write up some orders to send Sgt Sneakypete somewhere!" PRESIDENTS HAVE THIS AUTHORITY BY VIRTUE OF BEING PRESIDENT.

IF Presidents didn't have this authority WHY didn't the left file lawsuits against LBJ and Nixon during the VN war to keep them from sending troops to VN or anywhere else?

Answer your own question while considering a method of comparative analysis.

I'm guessing you would say they can't because Congress didn't specifically allocate the money for a wall in Syria, right?

We have to stop human trafficking and enemy combabants from crossing the border.

And drugs. Like opioids.

I repeat,NO President has to ask anybody for a single damn thing to see American troops anywhere in America,and to even suggest he would have to get permission to send them to Texas,Arizona,California,or any other American state to do construction projects as part of their annual training mission is absurd.

But that isn't the question.

It is the material support: bricks, mortar, cement, technical support and surveillance equipment. These material resources add up to BILLIONS of bucks. That requires Congressional approval.

As much as I hate to agree with bucky, I thought Trump was supposed to make MEXICO pay for the wall...

He was,and maybe will down the road by using taxes/tarriffs on anything entering the US from Mexico. Right now he has to do what is possible,which is not necessarily the same thing as what he wants to do.

So what's with this bait & switch?

Why are you asking me? Ask the Party People in the alleged Republican Party and their brothers in the Dim Party.

In FACT,why even blame Trump for this? Yeah,he ran for president with this being a large part of his platform,but who can blame him for ASSUMING that a Republican Congress would go along with a newly elected Republican President,instead of joining hands with the left in a Kumbaya Moment?

Blame the traitors in congress with R's behind their names,and their treasonous supporters,

I'm guessing you would say they can't because Congress didn't specifically allocate the money for a wall in Syria, right?

I don't know why the USA is involved in Syria, to begin with. But, there is allocation of funding by this silly & stupid Congress.

I keep copying the same link. It works then it doesn't.

If it doesn't try googleing

Building a Wall in the Dark Congress is using budget shenanigans to funnel Pentagon money to President Trump’s border wall.

By Ryan Alexander

So, the US Army Corps of Engineers are going to have a 25 BILLION dollar training/exercise on the US border between Mexico?

No,shithead,THE US MILITARY will be using money from their annual budgets to build the wall. Granted,the US Army Corps of Engineers will probably head up the effort because they are the largest engineering unit in the military and have the most officers and NCO's that are qualified to supervise the job,but the US Navy,USAF,and the USMC will also be involved. Especially the reserve units.

I thought Trump was supposed to make MEXICO pay for the wall...

They pay later. Even if they don't and we get it who cares. It saves money. It saves our culture.

Bucky just wants to whine.

That requires Congressional approval.

Read my links. They gave the President the power to realocate funds in 1985 to fight the deficit.

Trump is smoking the same wacky-tabaky that you are.

It saves our culture.

Jorge Dubya Arbusto flushed that down the toilet a long time ago & there's no going back.

But that isn't the question.

It is the material support: bricks, mortar, cement, technical support and surveillance equipment. These material resources add up to BILLIONS of bucks. That requires Congressional approval.

Yeah,it is. Unless you think maybe the bricks,mortar,cement,etc,etc,etc will dig and pour the footings,build the forms,and pour the cement themselves.

I don't want to shock you,but that comes out of the defense budget. How did you think the military engineers train without bricks,mortar,etc,etc,etc? The ONLY way to learn to build something is to build something.

I don't know why the USA is involved in Syria, to begin with.

I have to admit that is a mystery to me and many other people,also.

But, there is allocation of funding by this silly & stupid Congress.

Of course there was/is. It is a unplanned (in more ways than one,it seems)military movement to a foreign nation. In other words,it wasn't funded in the annual budget.

You are a little touchy, today.

Yeah,I am.I am fed UP with the constant whining by RINO bitches about anything and everything Trump does or says in an effort to make his presidency fail.

If Trump came out in favor of sunshine,you shitheads would suddenly hate it and call him a traitor to "truth,justice,and the 'murikan way of electing RINO slugs".

But, let's go back to details:

Ok.

there is no specific allocation of Congressional approval for a 25 BILLION dollar wall.

Nor does there have to be,dummy! Civilians aren't being hired to build it. The US Military will be building it AS A PART OF THEIR NORMAL OCCUPATIONAL TRAINING,AND THE MONEY TO PAY THEM HAS ALREADY BEEN BUDGETED.

DAYUM,how many times does this simple fact have to be explained to you?

Where did you hear about this idea?

Jorge Dubya Arbusto flushed that down the toilet a long time ago & there's no going back.

With MUCHO help from his fellow travelers who dream of a Global World Government that has everyone under their thumb.

Nor does there have to be,dummy! Civilians aren't being hired to build it. The US Military will be building it AS A PART OF THEIR NORMAL OCCUPATIONAL TRAINING,AND THE MONEY TO PAY THEM HAS ALREADY BEEN BUDGETED.

You have missed the obvious details, Pete. Where is the approval of funding for the bricks & mortar?

A permanent structure authorized by the POTUS does not require Congressional approval by Congress for funding?

Where did you hear about this idea?

Ok,you are living proof that you can lead a jackass to water,but you can't make him drink.

Go back to eating your boogers and leave the rest of us alone.

I'm not a sure how it works constitutionally. But it is in the interest of national defense to build the wall then the military can have this wall built.

You have missed the obvious details, Pete. Where is the approval of funding for the bricks & mortar?

I have already explained to you it comes out of the annual training budget. If you can't understand something as basic as engineers need building materials to train,and that those building materials are a part of the normal military budget,there is no hope for you.

BTW,don't even TRY a dumbass "Duuuuuhhhh,iz day iny bricks in de budgit n kin yew sho dim to me?" question. Overall budgets don't name specific items. There is a section that will have a title something like "construction materials for proposed training projects",but that is about as specific as it gets for an annual budget.

Annual budgets HAVE to be flexible because no one can predict what will happen in the future.

But you really know all this,anyhow. You just want to whine about Trump.

But it is in the interest of national defense to build the wall then the military can have this wall built.

Congress declares war. Congress allocates the budget. It isn't based on some insane idea of Presidential dictatorial powers.

Hey, pal, that means he has declared a WAR on the US border between Mexico/USA.

Wow. That's as dumb as a democRat.

I have already explained to you it comes out of the annual training budget. If you can't understand something as basic as engineers need building materials to train,and that those building materials are a part of the normal military budget,there is no hope for you.

25 BILLION USD for a couple of years? Who are you kidding when the US Defense Department is about 600 Billion.

But, there is allocation of funding by this silly & stupid Congress.

General military funding, sure. But not specifically for a wall in Syria.

The President has the authority and obligation to protect Americans, right? Normally, he delegates this authority to the people below him. But he has the power to tell them speciically how to use that money.

Nixon did in the (undelared) Vietnam War by ordering specific bombing missions on Hanoi (Operation Linebacker II) and targets in Cambodia. Johnson did it with Operation Rolling Thunder.

General military funding, sure. But not specifically for a wall in Syria.

When US personnel are intentionally placed in harm's way, as in Syria, it is understood. Presence of military in Syria is somehow approved by a stupid & silly Congress.

On the USA/Mexico border .... no way.

The problem I see is if Trump has it put up the next president can have it taken down or have no maintenance done on wall and then wink to the drug lords to blow it up.

Congress allocates the budget. It isn't based on some insane idea of Presidential dictatorial powers.

Hmmmm. Congress passed a drug budget, but Obama -- using his "dictatorial" powers -- refused to fund marijuana enforcement and directed those funds elsewhere.

Seems to me that nobody, including you, had a problem with that.

When US personnel are intentionally placed in harm's way, as in Syria, it is understood.

The U.S. military invaded Grenada in 1983 "over concerns for the 600 U.S. medical students on the island and fears of a repeat of the Iran hostage crisis".

Those students were not intentionally placed in arms way.

The problem I see is if Trump has it put up the next president can have it taken down

That's true of any Executive Order by any President. Trump is having a field day overturning Obama's EO's.

But if the wall is put up and we experience positive results, I don't see how it can be torn down. That's really what the Democrats fear -- that it will actually work.

Hey, pal, that means he has declared a WAR on the US border between Mexico/USA.

War cannot be declared against borders. Only countries, of course.

He certainly has authority to order the military to build things. The only thing I can think of that might stop him from doing this is the eminent domain requirements to for private land holders near the border, as it may require a law passed to seize that land. I don't know.

But I think it's likely that the president could have an avenue this way. The amount of money cited for the whole wall is far less than the military budget that was passed.

Trump has already out done both bushes and if he pulls off the wall he will be up there with President Reagan in just over one freaking year! Doing all this while fighting the progressive left(commies) from both parties and 99% of the media!!

I love that he does not give up and just keeps beating the progressive left at nearly everything. I believe the left(both parties) thought they could just roll right over Trump and send him home with his tail between his legs!

Another thing as much as I know about Trump those that went after his family just pissed him off more! Which makes him fight harder.

If Trump can dismantle Obummercare and get the wall! OMG he will be worth everything he does! LOL

He's got until November, 2020. If he doesn't get it done by then, he might just as well not even run. He will not get my vote.

Another thing as much as I know about Trump those that went after his family just pissed him off more! Which makes him fight harder.

Here's another thing we know about Trump; When he feels he's been betrayed (by certain advisers), embarrassed and rolled (which is rare), THAT makes him even more resolute. And he IS extremely embarrassed over this debacle.

Initially I thought the Deep State and Ryan/McConnell just steamrolled him, blackmailing Trump into signing this Budget monstrosity (That may still be the case)...

But I've got the feeling that DT is preparing some yuge redemptive moves. Some that will shock & awe. Wishful thinking? Perhaps.

I thought Trump was supposed to make MEXICO pay for the wall...

He was,and maybe will down the road by using taxes/tarriffs on anything entering the US from Mexico...

Yup.

There are many indirect ways that Mexico can and will wind up financing this Wall.

Trump can also return DACA and Illegals to Mexico who have been bleeding billions in US Taxpayer subsidies.

In FACT,why even blame Trump for this?

Yeah,he ran for president with this being a large part of his platform,but who can blame him for ASSUMING that a Republican Congress would go along with a newly elected Republican President,instead of joining hands with the left in a Kumbaya Moment?

Amen! (But remember -- Willie is now a loyal Democrat.)

It should indeed be noted htat McConnell (D) and Ryan (D) are most responsible for blackmailing OTHER Congressional Pubbies into betraying the President and the conservative, America First agenda, colluding with the Dem-Left. What they've done is unprecedented. Imagine Dems voting against 0bama en mass? NOPE, me neither.

Blame the traitors in congress with R's behind their names,and their treasonous supporters,

Yes. Exactly.

Why and how is Mitch McConnell avoiding scrutiny and any criticism at all?? Oh, that's right -- the Dem-Left controlled MEDIA has his back.

Trump is between a rock & hard place if he goes after McConnell. And McConnell knows it.

THIS book might help (excerpt from Breitbart):

[Peter] Schweizer joined Monday’s edition of SiriusXM’s Breitbart News Tonight for an interview with co-hosts Rebecca Mansour and Joel Pollak to discuss McConnell’s linkages to China, as detailed in his latest book, Secret Empires: How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Family and Friends.