People attend a blessing ceremony with their AR-15-style rifles in their cases at the Sanctuary Church in Newfoundland, Pennsylvania. Hundreds of couples toting AR-15 rifles packed a Unification church in Pennsylvania on Wednesday to have their marriages blessed and their weapons celebrated as "rods of iron" that could have saved lives in a recent Florida school shooting.
Go to link for a pile of pictures presented in a slideshow. You will be rewarded with all kinds of viewing pleasure.
#1: paraclete To: buckeroo (#0)
paraclete posted on 2018-03-01 19:39:54 Reply Private Reply
#2: A K A Stone To: paraclete (#1)
A K A Stone posted on 2018-03-01 19:54:47 Reply Private Reply
#3: buckeroo To: paraclete (#1)
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buckeroo posted on 2018-03-01 20:27:30 Reply Private Reply
#4: Hondo68 To: A K A Stone, paraclete, *Bang List* (#2)
This Reverend Moon founded Kahr Arms, I believe.
Revelation 19:15 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
15 And out of his mouth proceedeth a sharp two edged sword; that with it he may strike the nations. And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness of the wrath of God the Almighty.
Rod of Iron, stainless steel. An excellent line of pistols for the school teachers, or anyone else.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-03-01 20:59:15 Reply Private Reply
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paraclete posted on 2018-03-01 21:11:09 Reply Private Reply
#6: paraclete To: A K A Stone (#2)
paraclete posted on 2018-03-01 21:12:35 Reply Private Reply
#7: GrandIsland To: paraclete (#6)
And he definitely DIDN'T say that YOU could choose who is armed and with what... so fuck off, you British shitbag.
GrandIsland posted on 2018-03-01 21:16:45 Reply Private Reply
#8: buckeroo To: paraclete (#5)
I am convinced you believe in your post. HOW DOES THIS APPLY TO us around the world? Because you say so?
buckeroo posted on 2018-03-01 21:22:13 Reply Private Reply
#9: paraclete To: buckeroo (#8)
paraclete posted on 2018-03-01 21:25:23 Reply Private Reply
#10: buckeroo To: paraclete (#9)
Who is excited?
No one is assuming some Frederich Nietzsche forecast. So explain your perspective with some facts.
buckeroo posted on 2018-03-01 21:31:19 Reply Private Reply
#11: redleghunter To: hondo68, TooConservative, Liberator (#4)
Thinking about making this reliable beauty an anniversary gift for Mrs. Redleg. :-) I can't wait to see her face! Maybe I will have some diamonds put on it since it is an anniversary.
redleghunter posted on 2018-03-01 22:51:26 Reply Private Reply
#12: Hondo68 To: redleghunter (#11)
Very nice, if she can handle the trigger pull. OTH she won't have to struggle with racking the slide.
Diamond checkered grips is as far as I would go. There are lots of different styles.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-03-02 00:27:37 Reply Private Reply
#13: Tooconservative To: redleghunter (#11)
After an organized campaign by the NRA and NSSF over the issue of smart guns,[15] thousands of retailers and tens of thousands of firearms consumers boycotted Smith & Wesson.[16][17] The Smith & Wesson CEO who negotiated the deal, Ed Shultz, was forced out in September of that year.[18] Three months later the company's stock price fell to 19 cents per share (December 2000).[19] Smith & Wesson dropped its smart gun plans after nearly being driven out of business.[20]
On May 11, 2001, Saf-T-Hammer Corporation acquired Smith & Wesson Corp. from Tomkins plc for US$15 million, a fraction of the US$112 million originally paid by Tomkins.[21] Saf-T-Hammer assumed US$30 million in debt, bringing the total purchase price to US$45 million.[22][23] Saf-T-Hammer, a manufacturer of firearms locks and other safety products, purchased the company with the intention of incorporating its line of security products into all Smith & Wesson firearms in compliance with the 2000 agreement.
A reminder of exactly what they did: The S&W Betrayal.
Tooconservative posted on 2018-03-02 02:45:44 Reply Private Reply
#14: Tooconservative To: redleghunter (#11)
Armslist: Ruger .38 LCR, Tiffany blue
Tooconservative posted on 2018-03-02 04:44:43 Reply Private Reply
#15: paraclete To: Tooconservative (#14)
paraclete posted on 2018-03-02 07:10:04 Reply Private Reply
#16: A K A Stone To: paraclete (#15)
A K A Stone posted on 2018-03-02 07:25:52 Reply Private Reply
#17: sneakypete To: buckeroo (#0)
sneakypete posted on 2018-03-02 08:48:49 Reply Private Reply
#18: sneakypete To: paraclete (#1)
When God starts striking down people with lightening bolts that are trying to kill them?
sneakypete posted on 2018-03-02 08:50:07 Reply Private Reply
#19: sneakypete To: hondo68 (#4)
I didn't know that. IIRC,a well-build very reliable little auto loader
sneakypete posted on 2018-03-02 08:51:37 Reply Private Reply
#20: sneakypete To: hondo68 (#12)
DA Smiths are VERY easy to make as smooth as butta.
sneakypete posted on 2018-03-02 08:53:40 Reply Private Reply
#21: Tooconservative To: sneakypete, hondo68 (#19)
He bought it for his son who has done a good job with it, largely catering to CCW customers just as the market for CCW weapons started to really grow. The son has some chops as a gun designer as is thoroughly equipped with modern production equipment.
Tooconservative posted on 2018-03-02 14:51:00 Reply Private Reply
#22: Hondo68 To: Tooconservative, Eric Trump moonie (#21)
THIS reverend moon is the son Justin, who leads this church in PA and founded Kahr Arms. Poppy Moon is dead.
Love the Kahr.
The Trump boys may be pro 2nd, their dad Donald not so much.
Eric and Laura Trump, Justin Moon.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-03-02 15:49:29 Reply Private Reply
#23: Tooconservative To: hondo68 (#22)
Nice photo find. I didn't know of that connection but it doesn't surprise me a bit. The Trump brothers do seem to know everybody in the gun/industrial complex.
I don't actually worry all that much about Trump doing any gungrabbing because his sons are so pro-Second, pro-gun, pro-hunting. They really get it. And this is, actually, the Trump family's strongest direct connection to the GOP grassroots.
Tooconservative posted on 2018-03-02 16:03:39 Reply Private Reply
#24: sneakypete To: paraclete (#15)
I heard a rumor he was going to gather up all the surplus military and police confiscated handguns,rifles,and shotguns,and send them to the Muslims in Australia.
This is deep-cover stuff though,so don't tell anybody.
sneakypete posted on 2018-03-02 17:35:47 Reply Private Reply
#25: Hondo68 To: buckeroo, Eric Trump, Tommy Gun Warehouse, Moon brother (#0)
Sean Moon founded the church you posted about, and his brother Justin Moon founded Kahr Arms.
The cultlike church behind a ceremony with AR-15s and bullet crowns, explained
Hondo68 posted on 2018-03-02 19:22:38 Reply Private Reply
#26: buckeroo To: sneakypete, hondo68 (#17)
See post, just above and below.
buckeroo posted on 2018-03-02 19:36:19 Reply Private Reply
#27: Hondo68 To: buckeroo, progressive storytelling (#26)
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Hondo68 posted on 2018-03-02 20:01:13 Reply Private Reply
#28: paraclete To: sneakypete (#24)
You may not have heard but we have an effective border, you just can't wander across. Our Muslims are peaceful at the moment, they are reeling from the long sentences their IS supporters have been given, 40 years for supplying a gun, so we will happily indite Dump if he tries it
paraclete posted on 2018-03-02 20:15:36 Reply Private Reply
#29: paraclete To: buckeroo (#26)
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buckeroo posted on 2018-03-02 20:19:33 Reply Private Reply
#31: Hondo68 To: buckeroo, stage props (#30)
They have goons at the door checking that all weapons are unloaded, and a zip tie installed on the receiver to prevent the bolt closing. NOT my kind of church!
You can see the zip ties sticking out in some of the pictures.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-03-02 20:26:02 Reply Private Reply
#32: paraclete To: hondo68 (#31)
paraclete posted on 2018-03-02 21:53:43 Reply Private Reply
#33: Hondo68 To: paraclete, sheep to the slaughter (#32)
They're idiots who learned nothing from the church shootings in South Carolina and Texas.
The significant risks come from being neutered disarmed sheeple, like Australians.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-03-02 22:01:52 Reply Private Reply
#34: paraclete To: hondo68 (#33)
Oddly, we are not at risk from the gun, we managed the risk and declared never again. This does not mean we are unarmed, however weapons are not freely available to the criminal class, and this is borne out by the odd assortment of weapons found when they are raided.
Interestingly we haven't had any assassinations either
Look I sympathise with you, you have some very dangerous animals on your continent and even more among your population and in your government. We used the gun once to oppose government and the result was not the glorious revolution and civil war they might have hoped for, but ignominious defeat. Having lost america the British had no intention of losing Australia. We therefore understand that outcomes have to be wrought by different means.
paraclete posted on 2018-03-03 06:01:35 Reply Private Reply
#35: Tooconservative To: sneakypete (#24)
The surplus M1911A1 pistols program is continuing through CMP.
And now they're going to add the Garand rifles as well, a favorite of yours.
These pistols and battle rifles were loaned to our allies like Turkey and South Korea many decades ago. The agreements finally ran out and they have to return them to us and they're being put into the surplus sales program.
Anyway, I thought you might be somewhat interested. I have no idea what their price points will be once they inspect and repair them.
Tooconservative posted on 2018-03-03 09:44:33 Reply Private Reply
#36: buckeroo To: paraclete, hondo68 (#34)
Make a thread describes with more factual detail about the considerations you are attempting to allude to. Are you suggesting that the British maintained a larger and more potent army/navy defense posture in Australia as a result of their outright defeat in America?
buckeroo posted on 2018-03-03 10:31:29 Reply Private Reply
#37: sneakypete To: Tooconservative (#35)
Hmmm,I was under the impression the Clinton's ordered all the surplus 1911's destroyed. I know a BUNCH of them were dumped offshore in VERY deep water. There were also a bunch of like new BARS,M3'S,M-1 carbines,and BMG's dumped,too. I know this happened with all the surplus weapons we had given to Haiti because I know people that were there and saw all the like-new US Surplus weapons taken out of the police arms rooms and dumped at sea.
And now they're going to add the Garand rifles as well, a favorite of yours.
I'm not sure "favorite" is a strong enough word. I have one,and if I can can see you,I can shoot pieces off of you with my Garand.
And once again,I am shocked there are any available. I know for years we were being told there were none available. I have a friend that sells surplus items,including gun parts for a living and has a huge warehouse to stock his stuff that told me there were no more Garands in the system years ago and that Clinton had signed an executive order to prevent any more coming back to the country that we gave to other nations.
I do hope you are right,and I hope you go qualify so you can get one,too.
Anyway, I thought you might be somewhat interested. I have no idea what their price points will be once they inspect and repair them.
Garands in arsenal rebuilt "like new" condition will probably be sold for something like $200 through the NRA. To qualify for one at that kind of price you have to be a member of the NRA,take a NRA weapons safety class,and qualify at a rifle match given by the NRA to get the certificate authorizing you as being qualified to own one.
If you just try to buy one from the open market,they are going to be a little pricey because the weapons collectors are going to be out in force to buy "like new" ones with foreign acceptance stamps. Supply and demand. As they sell off,the price will drop because at some point they will start selling guns assembled from parts.
sneakypete posted on 2018-03-03 15:14:28 Reply Private Reply
#38: Tooconservative To: sneakypete (#37)
You might ask your buddy.
Apparently Turkey and South Korea got these under some longterm $0-rent lease agreement with us. And no option in the contract for them to buy them from us.
Ask your dealer buddy about this. I've read a number of different articles mentioning it and numbers in the tens of thousands of guns.
Tooconservative posted on 2018-03-03 15:56:47 Reply Private Reply
#39: sneakypete To: Tooconservative (#38)
Trust me,he knows about it if it's happening. He buys up surplus gun parts by the ton and sells them on Shotgun News and other sources. He's a multi-millionaire that even owns several gun ranges. Guns and shooting are his only interests in life. He goes to Camp Perry to compete every year.
sneakypete posted on 2018-03-03 18:50:32 Reply Private Reply
#40: paraclete To: buckeroo (#36)
what I am suggesting is that the British a maintained an adequate military force in Australia until 1870 and used it mercilessly to put down insurrection such as the Castle Hill rebellion (something like your Concord), the Vinegar Hill rebellion and the Eureka rebellion. In the context of the size of the population the military was a prominent feature in the early days, about 25% of the first fleet and there were wars with the natives, the scale of course was small and the outcome onesided.
The population was well aware of the events in america both the rebellion and the civil war as well as events in other parts of the world. The rebellion predicated the establishment of colonies here. The ability to defend a continent as large as Australia exercised the minds of the British throughtout the nineteenth century
paraclete posted on 2018-03-03 20:15:35 Reply Private Reply
#41: paraclete To: buckeroo (#36)
what I am suggesting is that the British a maintained an adequate military force in Australia until 1870 and used it mercilessly to put down insurrection such as the Castle Hill rebellion (something like your Concord) 1804, and the Eureka rebellion 1854. In the context of the size of the population the military was a prominent feature in the early days, about 25% of the first fleet and there were wars with the natives, the scale of course was small and the outcome onesided.
The population was well aware of the events in america both the rebellion and the civil war as well as events in other parts of the world. The rebellion predicated the establishment of colonies here. The ability to defend a continent as large as Australia exercised the minds of the British throughtout the nineteenth century. The British were concerned about the Germans and the Russian
paraclete posted on 2018-03-03 20:23:44 Reply Private Reply
#42: Tooconservative To: sneakypete (#39)
BearingArms: 100k M1 Garands To Be Released To CMP, More May Be Coming
These are the Turkish (13K) and Philippine (86K) Garands.
Tooconservative posted on 2018-03-04 02:50:31 Reply Private Reply
#43: sneakypete To: Tooconservative (#42)
I'm sure he is aware of it.I'm just not sure he cares anymore. He's in his late 70's,a multi-millionaire that doesn't owe a dime to anyone,and his only living relative is his wife of 50+ years that is dying of cancer.
sneakypete posted on 2018-03-04 06:17:59 Reply Private Reply
#44: Tooconservative To: sneakypete (#43)
Tooconservative posted on 2018-03-04 10:03:43 Reply Private Reply
#45: sneakypete To: Tooconservative (#44)
More than people like you and I could afford to pay. Or even be willing to pay.
Collectors are obsessed people. You offer them a chance to buy a rare military weapon with unusual foreign proof marks,and it's not even money to them any more,it's just numbers.
I personally don't need to own anything too valuable to shoot or carry around in my truck.
sneakypete posted on 2018-03-04 11:12:01 Reply Private Reply
#46: Tooconservative To: sneakypete (#45)
I'd be a little surprised if your own Garand is not sniper-grade or very close to it. You love that thing.
And while the conventional argument would be that a flood of Garands from overseas will lower the domestic price of good Garand rifles, it is quite possible that this release of rifles will revive interest in the Garands, especially among collectors, and drive their price even higher than they are currently. Not that you would ever part with yours but still...
There's a whole generation of new Garand owners on the horizon.
Tooconservative posted on 2018-03-04 11:48:48 Reply Private Reply
#47: sneakypete To: Tooconservative (#46)
Nope. Just a typical WW-2 arsenal rebuild,and it's a tack driver. Issue M-1 Garands were probably the most accurate rifles mass delivered to any army.
And while the conventional argument would be that a flood of Garands from overseas will lower the domestic price of good Garand rifles...
There must be something wrong with me because I see that as a GOOD thing. I can't even begin to guess why anyone but dealers would be upset over that.
BTW,just because my Garand is a regular "Rack grade" rifle doesn't mean I would be amused to see someone trying to steal it. There would be a steep price paid for that mistake.
sneakypete posted on 2018-03-04 11:52:27 Reply Private Reply
#48: Tooconservative To: sneakypete (#47)
CMP is not shy about its asking prices either. It's not like it used to be where you'd get huge discounts for most any military surplus weapon.
Tooconservative posted on 2018-03-04 12:02:58 Reply Private Reply
#49: sneakypete To: Tooconservative (#48)
I didn't know that. Used to be you could go to a NRA rifle range,shoot a prescribed series of targets,and qualify to buy one direct from the DCM.IIRC,I paid a couple of hundred bucks for mine,and it was arsenal rebuilt and refinished.
Then again,1,000 bucks bucks today is like 200 bucks 10 years ago,so I guess it evens out.
sneakypete posted on 2018-03-04 21:12:46 Reply Private Reply