Deer Antler Velvet...Human growth hormone...anti-aging...how it works...and it's benefits.
Poster Comment:
This product is potentially a life/health Game-Changer. To be clear, Deer Antler Velvet is NOT Human Growth Hormone but a strong facilitator of our own body's production. Before off-handedly dismissing or ignoring the above info, explanation, and benefits -- either because of the subject matter or because the narrator/Channel Poster seems "too young" to take seriously -- I'd suggest an eager, open listening.
This source/person (WoodwardTV) is exceptionally wise and informed at any age. He is not so old that he ignores or can't move beyond past "established" science/history/philosophy etc. This makes someone his age open to newer ideas as well as past established ideas and discoveries that have been dismissed for political/unscrupulous/dis-informational/commercial reasons.
In the distant past I had heard of and considered Deer Antler Velvet. There are many health-related un-traditional elements, supplements and protocols I've tried. Others (like Deer Antler Velvet) seemed to be too fad-ish, unproven or out-there even for me at the time. However the research and testimony of its benefits are now too obvious to ignore or dismiss.
Perhaps if others here are game in trying out this protocol, we can compare notes. The beneficial effects are allegedly to begin almost immediately. With one caveat: Some kind of body "cleanse" must first be undertaken for its effect to be maximized. That is understandable because this is NOT a Silver Bullet, though potentially remarkable.
#1: Liberator To: All (#0)
Health Benefits
Generally researchers agree that velvet antler restores, strengthens and protects normal bodily functions but is not in itself curative. Preliminary results of modern research suggest that deer velvet may have beneficial effects related to:
Specific health benefits shown by western research include:
Anaemia
New Zealand research has shown clear evidence that velvet antler can alleviate experimentally induced anaemia.
Anti-Aging
Research on mice suggests that velvet antler supplements inhibited the activity of some enzymes associated with aging while increasing the synthesis of liver and kidney protein by promoting activity of other specific enzymes.
Reviews report that this research is strong evidence of the anti-aging influence of deer velvet.
Anti-Cancer Activity
Although there does not appear to be any evidence that velvet antler can cure cancers, research has demonstrated that velvet may extracts have some anti-tumor (cytotoxic) effects against some forms of cancer cells.
Anti-Inflammatory Effects
New Zealand research [12] reports that although the mechanism is unknown velvet antler shows strong anti-inflammatory effects.
Blood Pressure Control
Research has shown that extracts of deer velvet have a strong ability to lower blood pressure in people with normal blood pressure and to stabilise abnormal blood pressure. However Suttie et al advises extreme caution of use of velvet by those with extremely high or low blood pressure.
Bone and Joint Health
It is proposed by researchers that therapies used for the treatment of human bone and joint problems should include the use of glycosaminoglycan-peptides, particularly chondroitin sulphate. Several studies have shown the glycosaminoglycan (GAG) content of velvet antler and in particular the relatively high level of chondroitin sulphate.
Most research suggests that as velvet antler contains significant quantities of chondroitin sulphate, it is worthy of consideration as a treatment for joint and bone inflammation conditions.
Growth Stimulation
Research has identified various natural hormones (growth factors) in velvet antler including IGF-1 (insulin like Growth Factor-1) and EGF (Epidermal Growth Factor).
Velvet antler may be a natural source of natural hormones for athletes and others who seek a natural aid to muscle growth and development.
Performance Enhancement
Although the mechanisms are yet to be clearly identified, research and anecdotal evidence suggests that velvet antler has a positive effect on athletic performance. Although not all reports are positive, most indicate that the effect is likely to be either prevention or rapid repair (or both) of muscle damage associated with exercise.
Stimulation of the Immune System
Research in Korea, New Zealand and China has shown that velvet antler can stimulate the immune system. Extracts of velvet antler were variously shown to increase macrophage activity, stimulate the production of lymphocytes and increase the number of red and white blood cells.
Each of these effects may directly complement the bodys ability to resist or fight disease and so promote and maintain health and an associated feeling of well being.
Tonic Effects
The immune stimulation effects shown by research gives support to claims of TCM that velvet antler can have a revitalising effect, especially for people who are immuno-compromised people (those weakened by illness or other stress).
Liberator posted on 2018-02-28 15:46:34 Reply Private Reply
#2: Liberator To: Liberator (#1)
I have taken food-grade Hydrogen Peroxide in the past but not maintained the program. One must be highly motivated to remain consistent in following any protocol.
*This may be beneficial in the fight against cancer, effective in disinfecting the body from pathogens, provide more mental clarity, and importantly, re-introducing copious amounts of necessary oxygen to the body. In conjunction with proper breathing and exercise, HP should help re-calibrate and re-boot a sickly or stagnant body and mind.
I have also found body message (WITHOUT "happy-ending) to be very beneficial to tissue-oxygenation, relieving chronic pain, muscle/joint aches, spasms, stress, and overall well-being. Spring for the $60-$80 bucks every couple of months if you can. It's a great investment in YOU.
*Do NOT expect your doctor or health care provider to know much about any of this stuff.
Liberator posted on 2018-02-28 16:04:34 Reply Private Reply
#3: Hondo68 To: Liberator, tpaine (#1)
The supplement that I've noticed the most obvious beneficial effects from is Glocosamine HCI & MSM, Equate brand. It also contains Boswellia serrata aka Frankincense of Biblical fame. It's cheap, and it works for joint pains. Stop taking it for a couple of days and things change for the worse.
I need to find out more about Antler Velvet to have an informed opinion.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-02-28 16:17:08 Reply Private Reply
#4: Tooconservative To: Liberator (#1)
Which researchers? What universities, labs, pharmaceutical companies do they work for?
That sure is a lot of "research" from a lot of countries. So why won't they link us to the studies published in peer-reviewed journals or tell us who conducted the research? Is it even real research at all?
Tooconservative posted on 2018-02-28 17:02:39 Reply Private Reply
#5: tpaine To: hondo68 (#3)
No thanks, I'll stick to Oxycodone. It's not palliative, but it makes me happy... :-)
tpaine posted on 2018-02-28 17:19:38 Reply Private Reply
#6: Hondo68 To: tpaine (#5)
Dayum, that's the hard stuff bro.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-02-28 17:37:27 Reply Private Reply
#7: Liberator To: hondo68 (#3)
Those ingredients are effective for joint pain. Right -- Never knew Boswellia = "Frankincense" of the Bible.
Collagen -- is very helpful as well for joints, but also for tendons, ligaments and ones.
You're right -- you can tell that they're working when you've stopped taking them.
As to Antler Velvet, I'm going to get more of a handle of the better/more effective brands and try it. I'll share that with you -- do the same for me as well. The Woodward TV host seemed convicted about its efficacy. If he's hawking it for money, he doesn't mention brand. I don't think he is being a merc -- I've watch several of his vids.
There are apparently several companies making it, and delivery systems. The best appears to be a sublingual liquid. Prices across the board seem to be between $65-$75, so it's not cheap. At that price yu'd better feel something in a hurry. I usually give things a minimal one month. By two months whatever it is should kick in.
The supposed #1 Antler Velvet supplier below. Can't tell if their product is ChCom-based, because that would concern me:
https://royalvelvetnow.com/
And here's a site with some WILD (and expensive) "elixirs" -- including Antler Velvet (NOT a fan of their glitzy blingy presentation):
https://theinterstellarplan.com/products/
Liberator posted on 2018-02-28 17:50:34 Reply Private Reply
#8: tpaine To: hondo68 (#6)
Nah -- I only take 5mg, twice a day. -- The only bad part is the craving for more, and managing the constipation.
tpaine posted on 2018-02-28 17:53:38 Reply Private Reply
#9: Liberator To: Tooconservative (#4)
Legit questions, TC.
Did you watch/listen to the video?
IF you peruse the link below, you will find some info and resources that may or may not satisfy your Antler Velvet curiosity. If not, I'm sure there are several answers to your questions online.
https://deerantlervelvet.com/
Antler Velvet and its allegedly amazing properties aren't just anecdotally effective. There IS international support for its efficacy.
It's intuitively obvious that the usual pharmaceutical companies would not ever sponsor or delve into or spend research on something like this. For obvious reasons. They are the same reasons they wouldn't sponsor Laetrile OR B-17 research. ANY inexpensive solutions for cancer, including supplements or vitamins that might dent their mega-lucrative monopoly on "cures".
The FDA historically has their back on actually preventing legit solutions that threaten the pharm industry or cancer industry. INCLUDING obstructing cancer cures. Everyone knows what the primary function of the FDA is. HINT: It is NOT about "Food" of "Drug Safety."
Liberator posted on 2018-02-28 18:09:51 Reply Private Reply
#10: Liberator To: tpaine, hondo68 (#5)
I get it...but why not consider both and possibly feel even better?
Plus, Oxy's long-term effect changes brain chemistry, require more to do the same job while taxing the liver. (Things I'm sure you know.)
Supplementing along with it gives your bod a chance to do more with less ANF feel more relief...while helping the body's bones, joints and ligaments rebuild. Just sayin'.
Liberator posted on 2018-02-28 18:20:11 Reply Private Reply
#11: Liberator To: tpaine, hondo68 (#8)
Liberator posted on 2018-02-28 18:21:08 Reply Private Reply
#12: tpaine To: Liberator (#10)
I'm taking 8 different drugs daily as it is, without any side effects I can't handle..
Enough is enough...
tpaine posted on 2018-02-28 18:28:58 Reply Private Reply
#13: Liberator To: tpaine (#12)
Liberator posted on 2018-02-28 19:04:54 Reply Private Reply
#14: Tooconservative To: Liberator (#9)
You can keep repeating that.
I want to know who are these researchers, where do they work, what pharma or universities are involved, where are their peer-reviewed studies?
I think there aren't any.
Can you even produce one peer-reviewed study? Just one.
You're distracting from your lack of any supporting studies. Big Pharma would investigate ways to make patentable and expensive medicines from it and get the original banned. Recall how they tried to create synthetic cannabis. But I don't see any of that happening.
This is a lot like the traditional Chinese medicine scams. In fact, it may turn out to be exactly that.
Tooconservative posted on 2018-02-28 22:28:26 Reply Private Reply
#15: Tooconservative To: Liberator (#9)
AVMA, representing over 90,000 vets in America.
Controlled trials using humans subjectsOne small-scale study found that deer velvet powder produced improvements in strength and endurance in male physical education students (n=17).1 This is balanced by results from several other studies where velvet antler did not improve muscular performance or reduce post-training pain,3,15 and failed to reduce rheumatoid arthritis symptoms not fully controlled by medication.16 The most recent meta-analysis found that chondroitin, a key component of velvet antler-based products, does not reduce joint pain caused by osteoarthritis.17
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11. Hemmings SJ, Song X. The effects of elk velvet antler consumption on the rat: development, behavior, toxicity and the activity of liver y-glutamyltranspeptidase. Comparative Biochemistry and Physiology 2004;C138:105-112.
12. Zhang H, Wanwimolruk S, Coville PF, et al. Toxicological evaluation of New Zealand deer velvet powder. Part 1: acute and subchronic oral toxicity studies in rats. Food Chem Tox 2000;38:985-990.
13. Kim H-S, Lim H-K. Inhibitory effects of velvet antler water extract on morphine-induced conditioned place preference and DA receptor supersensitivity in mice. J Ethnopharmacology 1999;66:25-31.
14. Angers RC, Seward TS, Napier D, et al,. Chronic wasting disease prions in elk antler velvet. Emerg Infec Dis 2009; 15(5):696-703.
15. Percival RS. Examining the effects of deer antler velvet supplementation on muscular strength, performance, and markers of delayed onset muscle soreness. Masters thesis: East Tennessee State University, 2005.
16. Allen MA, Oberle K, Grcae M, et al. A randomized clinical trial of elk velvet antler in rheumatoid arthritis. Biological Res Nursing 2008;9:254-261.
17. Reichenbach S, Sterchi R, Scherer M, et al. Meta-analysis: chondroitin for osteoarthritis of the knee or hip. Ann Intern Med 2007;146:580-590.
So you could catch chronic wasting disease from the prions of such products. I've seen deer dead from this. It's a very ugly death.
I wonder if you understand traditional Chinese and Korean medicine.
Looking elsewhere, I found a fairly sympathetic review of these products and the Chinese approach from a reviewer employed at Specialized Livestock Market Research Group, Department of Agricultural Economics, University of Saskatchewan. She mentions a large number of studies but warns how few of those are human trials that show any positive effect. Nearly all of these studies are small and focus on artificially-aged mice and diabetic rats and such. Very little human testing.
USASK: A Review of Scientific Literature on the Health Benefits of Velvet Antler, Ann Cooney, 2001
Tooconservative posted on 2018-02-28 22:58:24 Reply Private Reply
#16: Hondo68 To: Tooconservative, Liberator (#14)
You figure that Jesus, Mary, and Joseph and all the others in the Bible got suckered by a Chinese medicine scam - Frankincense?
examine.com/supplements/boswellia-serrata/
Boswellia Serrata is a gum resin extracted from a tree, which is sometimes burnt (the entire species of Boswellia is commonly known as Frankinsence) as an aromatic or otherwise administered as medicine. It has most usage for medicine in Ayurvedic medicine, some reading into Traditional Chinese Medicine, and its usage extends to the Middle East and other tropical regions.
Biblical Frankincense
There are over 52 references to frankincense - considering that "incense" is translated from the Hebrew/Greek "frankincense" and is referring to the same oil.
Let me just list a few references here: Exodus 30:34; Leviticus 2:1-2,15-16, 5:11, 6:15, 24:7; Numbers 5:15; I Chronicles 9:29; Nehemiah 13:5,9; Song of Solomon 3:6, 4:6,14; Matthew 2:11; Revelation 18:13.
If you have a pure oil, it is very safe to use. It is recommended that you dilute it in a 1:1 ration with a carrier oil before applying topically. Also know this oil is considered GRAS (generally regarded as safe for ingesting), a FDA-approved food additive and can be used as a flavoring agent. Please only ingest it with proper instruction from a practioner.
Frankincense essential oil's botanical name is Boswellia carteri. It's antioxidant capacity (ORAC) is 630. The essential oil is distilled from the gum/resin that comes from cuts made in the bark of the twisted, scrubby trees.
This oil is useful for the immune system, emotional balance, anti-aging, and hair and skin.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-02-28 23:14:34 Reply Private Reply
#17: Tooconservative To: hondo68 (#16)
This thread is not about frankincense. It's about deer antler velvet.
If you want to believe that Jesus, Mary and Joseph and all the others in the Bible were gobbling down frankincense for its health benefits, we don't have much to talk about.
Tooconservative posted on 2018-02-28 23:39:31 Reply Private Reply
#18: Hondo68 To: Tooconservative (#17)
I'm not surprised that you ignore the parts of the Bible that you don't like.
Hondo68 posted on 2018-02-28 23:46:27 Reply Private Reply
#19: Tooconservative To: hondo68 (#18)
I have the feeling that this "discussion" is going to get more stupid.
Go ram pounds of deer antler velvet down your gullet and enjoy some nice frankincense and myrrh enemas for all I care. It's all dumbassery but it is a free country and you can believe any dumbass scam you want to. Be my guest.
Tooconservative posted on 2018-03-01 01:05:26 Reply Private Reply
#20: Hondo68 To: Tooconservative (#19)
What bible are you using?
Hondo68 posted on 2018-03-01 02:26:20 Reply Private Reply
#21: Tooconservative To: hondo68 (#20)
Tooconservative posted on 2018-03-01 08:08:01 Reply Private Reply
#22: Liberator To: hondo68, Tooconservative (#20)
...although enemas can have health benefits.
Frankincense and myrrh enemas -- any research findings on that??
Liberator posted on 2018-03-01 08:56:46 Reply Private Reply
#23: Liberator To: Tooconservative, hondo68 (#19)
Turns out TC's advice of a frankincense and myrrh enema might be beneficial (although I can find no peer reviewed evidence that ingesting "pounds of antler velvet" is.)
Here the nice lady instructs us just how a goat milk enema (containing actual frankincense and myrrh) is helpful for a colon cleanse.
Liberator posted on 2018-03-01 09:04:24 Reply Private Reply
#24: Tooconservative To: Liberator (#23)
Tooconservative posted on 2018-03-01 09:07:48 Reply Private Reply
#25: Liberator To: Tooconservative (#24)
Liberator posted on 2018-03-01 09:20:29 Reply Private Reply
#26: Tooconservative To: Liberator (#25)
Thank you.
Tooconservative posted on 2018-03-01 09:32:36 Reply Private Reply
#27: Liberator To: Tooconservative (#26)
Maybe you're projecting. And actually do need an enema.
Liberator posted on 2018-03-01 09:34:05 Reply Private Reply